Both Creationism and Evolution are unproven ideas of the origin of the world. Therefore both are theories. They are both on equal footing and therefore should both be taught in school. Plus, teaching both would remove any feelings of inequality relating to this matter. Scientists and theologians have started to find connections between the two theories, making my case even more reasonable.
I do not think they should read scripture, but they should still teach it. It's a perfectly valid theory and it still deserves a mention. They did it in my school and it in no way did anything but make us look at alternatives to the theory of evolution. If we teach just evolution, students will believe in that, and we shouldn't force students to focus on ONE idea when there are ideas like creationism out there that are just as valid. Let kids choose for themselves what they want to believe, so open the amount of theories for them to choose from.
I believe that there is much evidence in support of both sides of the debate. Thus, I feel that both should be taught, along with all supporting evidence. This will cause students to search for the answers themselves instead of force-feeding them the consensus view. If the evidence is so strong against creationism, why should we be so afraid of presenting the idea in school?
There is tons of evidence of creation, and barly any for evolution. Radio metric dating is inacurate because it asumes you know specifics about the original material. Fossils are more evidencefor creation than for evolution. Most fossils look as is they didn't just die, but were killed, lining up perfectly with the great flood. More evidence of the great flood: the grand canion, that rock that has dino tracks going up virticaly, rocks with wave marks in then in the middle of random deserts. Dinos still exist. They found a dino bone so freash that it still had red blood cells living in it. They found evidence of dinos in congo, and resercher found a baby one in a whale belly. The big bang makes no sence, there is no evidence, and it is scientificly impossible! (read the evolution handbook section on the big bang) there are no missing limks. That is the problem, they are missing! All missing links were proven to be a hoax. (see it couldn't just happen capter 14, and the evolution handbook chapter 1, a brefe history of evolution) many organisms couldn't live without each other (it couldn't just happen chapter 13) they couldn't evolve without eachother, and the odds of them evolving at the exact same time, and getting to the exact right place just in time to save each others life is astronomical. The bible is the most historicly correct book in the world and gives us the account of the begining of the world. If you want more evidence, read it couldn't just happen, the evolution handbook, the bible, or visit the institute for creation reserch. Or reply to this.
Evolution, no matter how widely accepted in Academia, is a theory, meaning that it has not been proven as fact. Creationism is a theory in the same sense and manner. Since Evolutionism is a theory, it should be presented alongside a viable alternative such as Creationism, and it should be left up to the students to choose one or the other for themselves.
The idea of giving kids an education is not only to teach them subjects such as math and science, but to also teach them to be able to think on their own. Teaching students only one side of the theory of how human life began is biased. You must give the students multiple points of view so that they can make their own judgment.
Go ahead and look through any microscope or telescope and you'll see a multitude logical, factual evidence that points to a creator. It takes more faith to believe in evolution than it does to believe that we were made based on intelligent design by a God who loves us.
Also, would you please read the constitution. IF you had you'd see "Separation of church and state" isn't in it. The constitution was written to protect our freedom to practice religion in our homes, schools, and the public squares- not banish it! Our country was founded and built on biblical principals and our forefathers were in fact Christians who actually printed the first bibles in this country in order to be used in schools! Don't believe it? Do some research. It's amazing to me how the ignorant masses just swallow the lies that are fed to them without ever bothering to do some simple investigation.
The real argument here is not about teaching kids "faith" in schools. How about giving them a choice? After all, evolution is still just a THEORY and has not ever been proven. But yet so many choose to put blind faith in evolution! It has virtually become a religion in itself!!! Based on faith in a theory... No, this discussion is about giving them the historical and scientific information and then allowing them to make informed decisions for themselves.
Creationism is what most Americans believe and to say that you know for a fact that we evolved form apes is nothing short of a lie. We don't know for sure how the human race got here. Nobody does. So to say that we know with 100% certainty that The Holy Bible is wrong is unacceptable. I believe that until we find significant evidence that we evolved from monkeys, we should teach creationism and creationism only.
You say there is no proof that creationism is possible. I can say the same about evolution. Who determines if evolution is reliable? Scientist. Letting scientist determine what we learn is very bias. It should be either both or none. Both are possible. 40-45% of Americans believe in creationism. So why is it so against schools? Because atheist are ignorant and only want what they want taught in schools and don't care about other beliefs. Evolution is being pushed on kids and aren't given a choice what to believe ( in schools). Yes it is true. I'm in school and I witnessed it. Don't say its not because they don't teach it as a fact. Maybe they don't in some cases, but they make it sound like anything other then evolution is stupid.
P.S. Qopel your an idiot.
Bible study should be optional. Children can study scripture there. But the state should regulate that curriculum and the religious messages it gives children. I think creationism is not a science, but superstition. As fallacious as it really is, I don't think that it should be against the law to teach it.
Creation has been taught in public schools long before evolution ever was. Evolution keeps on changing and now they say that there was a divine something or whatever that must have started it and then evolution began. Something cannot be made out of nothing. When you see a wrist watch you don't think that it was spontaneously formed into a watch. There was a creator to that watch. The world is way to complex. Even Darwin said the human eye is much too complex, and that's such a small thing. A bang or whatever could not have created this whole world. Why do you think people are always trying to figure out who they are and what their purpose in life is? Because God's missing and He's the one who put that desire in them.
How can you have a creation without a Creator? You can't just randomly create something out of nothing! That's absolutely ridiculous! Look around you for goodness sake! Isn't it obvious? The world and universe are beautiful places, designed specifically by God. Everything here, especially us, is created in SO much detail, that it couldn't possibly happen randomly. God loves us all SO much! He's a loving caring God who created the world for His glory! I believe Evolution is just a theory people hide behind so that they don't have to face the facts. The fact that they are accountable to God for all they've done. So, yes! Teach Creationism in public schools. Let the kids decide what they want to believe. Give them both sides of the story.
I have read almost all the arguments against this position and there are a couple arguments I would like to address.
First, In logic there are two areas of reasoning: inductive and deductive. Deductive is generally equated with necessary inferences and inductive is generally equated with probable inferences. Math, for example, is deductive, rational, and analytic. Science is inductive, empirical, obtained by senses, and synthetic, putting things together. In inductive reasoning no none can prove, on a scale of 1% to 100% if there was a scale of cogency, 100%, anything. The argument can be 99.9% cogent, the inductive equivalent to valid, but it still is not deductively valid or following with necessity. Since science is a part of inductive reasoning (I think both sides of this argument agree with this.) it can not prove anything. Therefore, no one can say that evolution is proven. It might be very close to 100% but it is not 100% true.
Secondly, if creationism were not a science no scientists would study it or believe it. If you were to look up creationist scientists on Google you would find many, many esteemed scientists.
Thirdly, there is evidence for creationism. I do not know all the details but here are some examples: In the fossil record there are big systematic gaps between the various living kinds. Earth's features were mostly occurred due to large catastrophes. There are many others but I don't have time to write them down.
Fourth, if public schools should teach evolution, they should also teach them the other side of the coin. I understand that it seems that if one were to creationism then they should teach every other creation story. This argument is fallacious because it is again assuming that creationism is a myth like the Greek and Roman gods. Since creationism is a science it should be taught like evolution.
Also to only teach evolution is a danger and the child could think that evolution is the only right option. A radical example of children believing one thing because it was the only thing taught to them is the Hitler Youth.
Since the Public schools are trying to remain as unbiased as possible they should teach what generally is the other side of the coin which is creationism.
There is one comment on here that really annoyed me. If all of the people who believe in evolution knew what they were talking about, they would know that evolution is just a theory and IS NOT a proven fact. Do any of you evolution believers know that scientists say that they age rocks based on the age of fossils and they base the age of fossils on the age of rocks. You can't "find the age" of one of the things if you don't know the age of the other. This is just proving your "fact" that the world is billions of years old wrong. Also if the world was billions of years old the moon would have more craters on the side that is facing the Earth but it only has a few which proves that the world is NOT as old as evolution believers say. Lastly, if the Earth did come from a big bang then all of the planets and moons would be spinning in the same direction due to the gravity and pressure during the explosion, but they're NOT! I'm sorry for going on a rant guys but I don't think that it is fair that schools have to teach evolution (excluding private schools)! Why can schools press their beliefs of evolution on Christians but Christians can't even bring up the idea of teaching a tiny bit of Creationism in the school lessons. If you guys don't want us pressing our beliefs on you don't press your beliefs on us.
Whether creationism or evolution is the right answer does not matter, what matters is that there are two different ideas. Therefore both should be taught and then the decision as to which is true or false be left in the students hands. Hate is not something that is caused by conflict, conflict is merely the by product of hate.
Nothing has real evidence if you think about it, anything could happen! There is no evidence that you or any of this world exists! We could be in some freak dream or something for all scientists know!! Let the school teach creationism! Who cares, if you hate what someone is saying that badly... Don't listen to it! You have the option to not listen... At least if they are taught side by side then children get to choose which one they believe... Besides church is once a week and school is 5! Who wants to learn something they don't believe in 5/7 days of the week for a year??!?!?
It should be taught in schools alongside evolution. At the very least, let creationists do prayers to their God(s), read/study their religion (Bible, Qur'an, etc.) and have the freedom to speak about their religion in school without being ridiculed. People should have a choice in what they believe. No one should call the other stupid for believing or not believing in a religion.
kids have a very sensible mind, teaching them evolution at such a young age is pretty much encouraging them to believe in it instead of being an option. So to make it equal teaching both things encourages kids to study both of them and find out for themselves what they believe in.
As a life-long Christian, I never questioned scripture, it made sense, I didn't ask myself any questions about evolution until my teens. This wasn't because it finally made sense and I finally escaped my delusions, but because I couldn't ignore the opportunity to once again contest the foolishness of one of my dearest friends. He's a smart guy (IQ 135), mine's 136; and we debate alot. This time stood out though, repetitions after repetitions, that were so meaningless, they didn't even bother to depreciate, and he knew it. So evolutionists have skeletons, which could easily be interpreted as proof of extinction, rather than proof of evolution. When people defend evolution as being a theory in the way that gravity and electricity are theories, they ignore the fact that gravity and electricity are evident and uncontroversial. Evolution is a leap and a deterrent to good sense, it will never be proven and it will never be near-unanimously accepted, the most evolutionists can ever expect is tolerance. The same goes for Creationism. Both theories offer answers and I think because Evolution offers more it thereby makes more sense, but answers shouldn't be confused with facts. Why can't their be room for both views in science classes?, it isn't unreasonable, it's a concession for both sides, a compromise, it's diplomacy, if you contest that, you are a fool and a hypocrite who will find more peace in contradiction than actual peace. I believe that I am more than the legacy of an amoeba because I and everyone else are children of God. It also helps that evolution is so retarded, and at 16, I know the German had the fish.
I myself am a Creationist, and will not side with evolution because of my strong belief in a creator. So being forced to learn about something that is only a theory, doesn't really seem fair to me. Even some scientists today feel that evolution can't explain all the things in our universe. Shouldn't that prove something?
Regardless of beliefs, I believe it is evident that Creationism has much supporting evidence. Now, I'm not saying we should convert science class into religion class, but there exists much evidence for Intelligent Design. My arguments are as follows:
1. We must value freedom of choice. Many complain about how children are being indoctrinated by either the school system or their families. Both exist. If we desire to shake of indoctrination in the public education, then we can start in the science field. Allow both theories to be presented in an unbiased manner with both the benefits and downsides for both theories to be explained alongside them. The student then has a choice to believe what he/she decides has more scientific evidence. Freedom of thought must be encouraged.
2. Intelligent Design has much evidence. Since the dawn of information science, DNA is perceived in a far different manner. It has coding that is set up for a purpose within every function of the body. This points strongly to an intelligent designer. God? Aliens? Some glob of unknown matter made of intelligence? That's up for grabs. But, it does have evidence and is a legitimate scientific theory. Therefore, it deserves to be taught/introduced in public schools.
3. Endorse freedom of thought. This is similar to the first point but a bit more expansive. If we wish to encourage scientists, we cannot narrow their minds. Children must be given the opportunity to explore different theories and scientific hypotheses and choose for themselves which has more evidence. That is true science after all. Therefore, I believe that public schools must teach creationism (or intelligent design) alongside evolution unbiased in science classes to promote free though and raise real scientists.
I rest my case.
Is it so hard to offer parents and kids choices or options? My kids get to opt out of gym, art, music, languages, health class, etc. Why can't I choose whether or not my child learns about evolution or creationism or both? They don't have to be taught "alongside" of each other. Let parents decide whether their children will be taught one or the other or both. It's not a big deal to do that when so many other classes are optional.
It is limiting freedom and it is a disgrace to democracy not to teach both points of view. By refusing to pay Christian schools and make them separate from public schools they are (whether trying to or not) killing Christianity, which is one of the most positive religions in the world! I don't understand how anyone can think differently considering Christianity is what most of our nations policy's and everything we stand for as a nation was founded upon.
Evolution and creationism are simply both theories! In creationism, an intelligent designer created the world using science. In evolution something came from nothing. Why should one side be taught? The intelligent Designer used science in order to create the earth, placing it at an exact spot for humans to be able to survive. That is the science in creationism. Evolution and creationism have the same evidence its just the difference in our assumptions. Evolution's theory has never been able to be replicated so therefore it is merely a theory. Teaching both sides of these topics in school would present two different sides, let the students decide what they want to believe, but I believe it comes across as unfair to only present one side. Almost like you are trying to hide something if you can't teach the one side but you can teach the other.
I am looking at a lot of the comments and most of them that are against creationism are saying things like "Creationism is religion, evolution is science." Well I thought I would just kill those stupid and retarded posts and say this... Atheism is a religion too... And that is the religion most schools are teaching... Christians and many other religious groups are being taught atheism and the only ones who are happy are the atheists... Some people argue that atheism is not a religion... And still other religious groups are not being taught what they want to be taught and what they want other people to be taught...
evolution is bogus scientists claim there is evidence yet they never tell you the evidence since it doesn't exist! Intelligent design has evidence if you look at how complex the world and everything is you know this can't happen by chance. What are the odds that this the only planet in the universe that has water the perfect distance from a star and the perfect atmoshphere to support life? It won't happen by chance. It is impossible. The world was DESIGNED by an intelligent BEING. It is a scientific theory because it best explains the existance of the universe and everything in it. Evolution say that we came from something and evolved. Therefore, one would go back until there was nothing to evolve from. Wait if there was nothing existing then how did it come to be? Oh intelligent design. Thus ends my argument for creation aka intelligent design.
The object of school is to educate its students, part of which is about the world. Regardless of what the truth may be it is incumbent upon teachers to inform students that there is another side to Darwin's evolution...a side which happens to be the fundamental aspect for billions of peoples' belief systems. Therefore, to teach only one side is to say that only one side exists, which is simply untrue. Only informing students of the side of the debate relating to evolution ends the debate entirely. It is not the responsibility of schools nor their right to decide what students ought to believe by removing choice. Imagine what this website would be like if only one side of debates could be heard.
Evolution is just as "religious" as creation. It requires just as much (if not more) faith due to it's complete lack of proof. Teaching only evolution like it is a fact and not showing the opposing viewpoints is not education, it is brainwashing. I don't see how you can say that evolution is any more scientific than creation since there is absolutely no proof that evolution happened or is happening.
This is such a multi-dimensional question, and perhaps even a flawed one. I'll do my best to answer in an impromptu fashion.
Foremost, the equation of Creationism and Evolution is a heavily skewed assumption. Creationism is, by most peoples' standards, a theory on the origin of everything, and subsequently, the degree of creation. Did a Creator create the most basic of matter and then let it go? Or did He create today's most complex life forms in the very beginning? Furthermore, who is He? This question alone opens up an entirely new, albeit unnecessary and possibly irrelevant, conversation. The implication of a creator and the degree of complexity in the primordial creation makes for a conversation of the very age of the earth and beyond. There are more layers beyond this, I'm sure. All in all, Creationism pertains to substantially more than Evolution does, going far beyond mere scientific capacity
That being said, Evolution is, as I understand it at its most basic level, a theory on the origin of species. Darwin theorized that organisms would evolve based on their surroundings, ergo "survival of the fittest." As far as I know, and I may be mistaken, this theory never involved HOW the very first matter and energy came to be. So, that factor is removed. Also, there are those that split the theory into "microevolution" and "macroevolution." "Species to better, but same species" and "species to entirely different species", respectively. Microevolution is remarkably easy to prove, but macroevolution is not so. One thing it requires a lot of, is time. The terms "New earth" and "Old earth" collide here. Creationists often side with the new, and evolution, by necessity, with the old. Nevertheless, this conversation doesn't HAVE to take place. One could assume a creator that placed the first mass and energy trillions of years ago, and that would allow the basis of Creationism, and the time for Evolution.
Now, I believe I'm straying from the original question. Seeing as the two theories in question are different, the question is slightly illogical as they likely would not be seen "alongside" each other. Also, one demands a personal conviction, while the other does not. In the end, assuming we are talking about the areas in which the two theories clash, I DO believe they should be both taught, equally and carefully.
The talk of the two no doubt brings up existential questions, but assuming those are avoided, I think they are both valid for teaching. But their boundaries and implications must be clearly and purely defined, as it is not a matter of being on one side or the other.
As a creationist, I feel I must implore you to realize that creationists are not all ignorant. Please, do not base your opinions of us based on a few of poorly-worded paragraphs below on a debate website.
All the best,
Neither Creationism, nor Evolution can be proved. Students should not be pressured into one choice or the other, but should be presented with the two leading beliefs and allowed to explore them further if they so desire. It is not fair for students to be presented a bias and one sided view.
The schools automatically assume every kid in the school is neutral on their position on how the universe began. They basically end up force feeding you evolution (which is not true) on every student in the class. Evolution has been disproved so many times, it's completely funny how people still believe in it. The schools should teach a variety of things. Including things that are true.
So... Explain to me why one particular belief (evolution) should be allowed taught but creationism isn't? Isn't that taking away rights that were given to us? Neither belief can be proven 100% true, so why does everyone attack creationism but not evolution? Not trying to disregard one or the other is a concept a lot of people don't quite understand
It's called the theory of evolution. It is not 100 percent proven. Evolution is being pushed on school children as a fact when it could be wrong. I believe in Creation, that's my view.
If evolution is true how do you explain anything? How did the big bang happen? When the big bang happened why did the earth form into a circle? Why not a square. Triangle or another shape? Why should I or my children be forced to learn something that also has holes in it that they claim that "creation theroy" has
First off, neither all of creation nor evolution can fully be explained. Therefore, to give the students themselves a chance to choose, both should be supported in a public school. In private schools, BOTH are taught, yet only evolution is taught in public schools. Both of the theories could be wrong, but only one of them could be right.
Yes it should. It's not education to tell someone one side of the story, but not the other, that's indocrination. I think teachers have a moral obligation to teach both sides of the story, otherwise it's no different than censorship, which is illegal in America. Freedom of Speech should guarantee honest debate.
Creationism should be taught alongside evolution in a science classroom in order to expose students to all areas of scientific thought and theory. This goes for all areas of science. All viewpoints should be presented and fairly challenged and tested. If one viewpoint of science is presented, it gives a biased viewpoint. This misleads students, which is the opposite goal of science education; to enlighten all through the scientific method and the search for truth.
To say evolution is fact is an outright lie. Evolution is a form of origin science not operational science which can be tested by the scientific method. Variation within kinds is not empirical proof of evolution. If anything it points to a creator. Just a few of the hundreds of questions to ask evolutionists. Where is the evidence in the fossil record? 200,000,000 or more fossils but no transitional fossils that hold water. Explain the Cambrian Explosion. Irreducible complexity refutes chance as a designer. There is no known law of nature no known process or sequence of events which can cause information to originate by itself in matter. Information science confirms creation. I could go on and on and on with evidences pointing toward a creator but that wont change the faith that evolutionists hold. If they would have had correct info as a child they might have had the facts straight now.
Present it as "some people say this" and explain where each view comes from.
It's so sad that people believe evolution! There's so many gaps in evolution with the fossils! There is no true proof but yet teachers teach to children and children are mislead to believe lies that Satan smiles at.PEOPLE say that seeing is believing... Well through the bible and Jehovah gods creations we see exactly what came from god :)
I think both should be taught and the child make his or her own mind up. When I was in college science was my major...and I think creationism is highly likely. Evolution has too many unanswered questions. Not one fossil has been found to prove that evolution has truly happened. Where are the animals that are in the midst of evolving???? No fossiles to support it.
More and more scientific evidence for a creator is being found, and considered in the scientific community. Evolution in itself is becoming a religion because the scientific "evidence" they have for it is flawed, outdated, or even inaccurate. Intelligent design (creationism) is becoming accepted by scientists around the world because the evidence for it is irrefutable.
We cannot prove either evolution or creationism. Each should be offered to students to help opinionated the future leaders of America. Schooling isn't about teaching selective material. It is about letting kids grow their minds and gaining opinion. Not all creationists are set on disproving evolution. Stop choosing to selectively brainwash the future of America.
We have never seen evolution as it is taught in classrooms today. In fact we don’t know if it is true. We can’t see it, touch it, smell it, hear it. We’re taught however it is true. Now I’m not saying evolution is wrong. I’m just saying it can’t be proved scientifically. It seems more like an opinion of view. Almost like…….a religion or creationism…..you have to accept it and believe in it. Creationism, evolution…..both are theories. So why are we being taught only one opinion?
Children learn about Greek Gods and other religious history, I think they should be able to read about creationism as well. It's not fair for them to hear from only one side, there should be other options presented, especially since that is our history in America. We cater to so many religions, why not America's historical religion? Equal time should be provided.
If schools have to teach Evolution, they should have to teach Creationism, too. Teaching only the theory of Evolution is like saying that's the only one to believe, as it's the only one taught. Schools should have to teach both sides, allowing students to choose which one they wanted to believe, if any.
If you only show kids the theory of evolution, they will not have a chance to believe the other side. There is evidence for creationism. Just read the book The Case for a Creator. I have not met one Christian who blindly believes on their faith. They always have a reason. You are sending out a message that evolution is definitely true by saying that creationism should not be taught in schools. Besides, the job of DNA is to stay the same, not to change a lot. It will change very little. Matter did not come out of nowhere, as is described in the big bang theory.
It's very simple. Evolution has a monopoly on proof. Anybody who believes otherwise is a walking indictment of our public school system. Do the homework, guys, and you'll find the evidence to support creationism is ridiculously stupid.
As such, I want creationism taught in science classes, precisely because evolution has all the proof. It will educate kids about what science looks like and what pseudoscience looks like. It will teach them critical thinking and how to recognize stupidity at a glance. Creationism, as a great example of pseudoscience, can be a great tool in a science classroom.
Creationism may be based on circular logic and based on God, but isn't that better than teaching our children that we come from apes? There is absolutely no proof that we do. It's a theory. So what's wrong with teaching creationism as a theory in schools to give our children a choice in what to believe?
Just like evolution, creationism is considered a theory. Both viewpoints about how life was formed should be presented in order for a student to ultimately make the decision on how they became. Both theories on evolution and creationism, have strong research, evidence and data to support them, making both just as valid in science.
Though the majority of people do "believe" in evolution and there are many signs that support the theory of evolution, the fact remains that the theory of evolution has not been proven true yet, which is why it is called the THEORY of evolution.
For an example, according to the theory of evolution, there should be many transitional forms in the fossil record, yet so far we've found NONE.
This means that we still do not know the origins of life, so why teach only ONE theory to students. Though the fossil record DOES support the theory of evolution more than creationism, it DOES support creationism as well. Alongside these theories are many other theories such as punctual equilibrium (kind of like evolution), panspermia, and directed panspermia.
ALL those theories are possible. But we don't know WHICH one is true, so why only teach students ONE of them. We should teach them all the theories and have them decide for themselves which they prefer to believe.
Creationism has explained how the world works since the beginning of time. You can accept God created the heaven and the earth by faith and you can scientifically prove it as well. The same evidence used to prove evolution can also be used to prove creationism. At that point you'd need to step back and choose. Which statement sounds more plausible? In the beginning, God or in the beginning, chance? Public schools need to bring creationism into the classroom because history and current events prove that people who grow up on the mentality that they're merely evolved animals will do wild and unpredictable (often dangerous) things. Any authoritarian country will have a godless dictator who treats their people as subhumans. Their Marxist, evolutionary philosophies reflect their behavior. Anyone with a brainstem can conclude that. Evolution is dangerous!
If we're evolved from other animals, why aren't the different stages of our evolved selves roaming around? That's right because evolution is a scam! We didn't evolve from animals people! God said we'd produce our own kind. Humans, animals, and plants produce a variety of offspring but it's ALWAYS the same kind. Read your Bibles people, that's the real science book!
Every sides of arguments must be given by schools to the students so that they have a complete view of the learning topic. Even if creationism is false (which in fact we do not know for sure yet), the way the arguments are organised in attempt to prove and reject creationism should give students a better insight to other related topics which are currently given priorities in teaching.
The only bigger problem here is which one is the priority when we do not have enough time to teach everything, whether it is evolution or creationism, and obviously we cannot simply say which as both need us to dig further into them to prove definitely whether which of them is the real one (or none of the two).
First of all, does evolution make any sense, NO, i does not. We would never evolve from primates. Plus creation has been studied much long and besides all evolution is just what one person made up some day and now so many people believe in it. Plus we produce are own kind, we dont produce monkeys do we. So thats why it should be taght in public schools.
Both are theories: big bang/evolution and Creationism. They should both be taught when learning the difference between a theory and law. Both should be presented as theories and each dissected. Students can discuss differences with their parents or on their own and decide for themselves. Then they will understand that everyone can have their own theory and learn to respect each individual's belief in a theory. We need to teach both the idea of a theory and the idea of respect for human kind.
Kids need to be taught the truth. Religion is not the same thing as Creationism. This is something not everybody comprehends. Many people believe that it will cause conflicts but that's only if you make a big deal out of it. People need to grow more spiritually and learn the truth. The Bible clearly states how it all happened. Once said by Isaac Asimov was "the saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom." Why is this? Well, people aren't taking time to learn the truth that we were created by God and for God, he is the reason why we're here. So I believe we need to acknowledge the fact and teach Creationism alongside evolution in science.
If a large chunk of the people in the US believe in Creationism I think it should be allowed to be taught. Evolution is still a theory. Until it is proven as fact I think everyone has the right to learn about both Creationism and Evolution in all of our schools.
I grew up with a Catholic faith through my family outside my education.. why should it be fair that if I was at a school that forced science as fact when I believed otherwise? I thought science was the biggest waste of time and barely passed any related subject, which is a negative impact on my personal education as I could have spent more time in classes that fueled my passion. If there are many like minded like me and want to learn more about my faith in an environment where I spent most of my time growing up, school, I should not be denied a choice. I'd rather have both avenues made possible, and people given that choice. Look at the other side of the coin, you're science driven and school forced you to study creationism and banned all science. Put yourself in the perspective of today's education where science is commonly taught.
Creation should not be taught in the out of the Bible. That is not what should be taught. But there are scientific theories at come from the view of a creationist that have lots of supporting evidence and just as much credibility as evolution. There are other theories besides evolution, so why are they never even suggested as another possible theory? We say everyone has the right to believe what they want, yet we only provide one theory for them, and teach it like it's a proven fact that has no other explanation. If creation was nothing more than a made up idea with no truth to it, why does it matter if it's taught? No one would believe it.
I do believe in both evolution and creationism, but we only teach one type in our schools. It is unfair that only one side gets to be told, there is such a thing as religious freedom. We don't have to say it is the truth, but let the students decide which story they want to believe. Or they can believe both like me.
The ACLU said this, "IT IS BIGOTRY FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO TEACH ONLY ONE THEORY OF ORIGINS."
We want students to be well versed in all subjects including science. Evolution is just a theory, hence why it is called theory. Give students variety and diversity, otherwise it is 'bigotry.'
The reason that creationism is not already taught is because people don't want do force one belief on others who might not believe the same thing. But isn't that exactly what is being done by only teaching evolution? It's just the other way around. By only teaching evolution, teachers are presenting ideas as fact that some might not believe in. If school systems don't want to force beliefs, then both sides should be taught.
Evolution is an explanation of how we got here "scientifically" which holds no scientific evidence and has been proven false. I have no problem with evolution in schools but they should point out that its a theory and not FACT and its up to the individual to figure out the truth on their own.
Christianity should be taught in public schools so the students can see multiple view points They see how evolution tells it, and how Christianity tells it. I believe in the Bible. The Bible has been around for over a thousand years. Evolution is just a new thought. You don't see any living land creature sprouting gills and jumping into the water, do you?
I mean it's not proven fact that evolution is real, and as unlikely as you may think creationism is, it's the other side of the topic and it should be represented. You cannot prove that creationism is wrong, because in order to do that you must know everything, and if you think you know everything you are crazy.
This debate is not about if religion should be allowed in schools. It is if truth be allowed in schools.
The evolutionary theory set out in Darwin's 'Origin of the Species' has a countless number of holes, many pointed out by Darwin himself. The countless number of changes made to his theory have only managed to cover a few of these gaping holes. Take for example missing links. Ardi, supposedly the oldest member of the human ancestry, is one of the biggest 'missing links' scientist have found. The truth about Ardi is that he or she was based off of around 30 assorted bones. Bones that appear to have mixed from a chimp skeleton and a human skeleton. Bones that, if arranged properly, could be made to look like a half-human half-chimp creature.
Another major piece of 'irrefutable' evidence that evolutionist like to use is the dime it would take for light from stars 2-3 millions lightyears away to reach us. This not only further refutes the evolutionary theory, but also is easy to explain. An experiment was done where atomic clocks were suspended a various orbits around earth. The way atomic clocks work is that they measure the oscillations of an atom's nucleus relative to the atom's electrons, thereby keeping almost perfect time. These clocks in various heights of orbit showed and interesting affect. The higher the orbit the faster the clocks ran. The difference was only slight but it shows that light could travel much faster in the absence of gravity. Showing light from stars 2 million or 3 million lightyears away could easily reach us in 15,000 years.
Creationism says that god created the earth in 7 days. Evidence for intelligent design is all around us. Take for example the human brain. The human brain is so complex that not even the most knowledgable neurologist in the world can many of the things it does. The eyes. The eyes are some extremely complex organs. They bend light to focus it on the retina, which then detects the light and sends it to the brain which interprets it into logical useable information. Saying this all came from a cell millions of years ago that spontaneously generated is utterly ridiculous. Saying that this occurred is like saying a tornado went through a junkyard and left behind a shiny new supercomputer. You might say if the junkyard had just the right materials it could build something. The fact is no one junkyard has the right compatible materials to build a complete functioning anything in the same way that no universe has just the right materials, that through random chance, could come together and make something as amazing as a human body.
This is about if creationism or evolution is allowed in schools. But if there is a God then whatever is the truth will inevitably be related directly to him. So before you mindlessly believe what you are told think logically about it and research the evidence for it.
Kids are not stupid! If they are as smart as a normal human being they should have a choice on what to believe. They don't have to teach creationism as a scientific fact but at least give the kids a chance. The teachers don't have to force it on them but let them use their critical thinking skills and figure it out on there own. Just don't tell them evolution is true and creation isn't because that would just be un-cool.
Why not? It does no harm to educate and give all sides of the issue or topic. Nobody says you have to teach the entire bible or pray in class There is no harm in giving a xhoice. Let them make educated decisions on their own. As long as you can do it objectively
If we teach the children creationism and evolution at the same time, I have nothing to say. Because the children have the right to be exposed to every possibility in which they can choose what to believe and what to choose from. So it is our responsibility to provide children a wide variety of choices to believe in. Thank you.
To be a worldly student, one needs to understand his or her surroundings through many perspectives. Though the United States is a secular nation, learning creationism is not enforcing religion on the students yet it just presents another view on what many believe how the world was created. It would be unbalanced to only teach evolution. The student would become more complete by understanding both.
At a school, public or private, it is the teachers' job to teach the students the truth. This has not been done in most science classes since creationism has been eliminated. Evolutionism and creationism are both theories. No one other then God was there at the creation of the world, so how can we say how it happened? The truth is we can't. Sure, we have theories, but theories aren't necessarily true. You have to be able to prove something with evidence for it to be true. Both theories discussed here have to be accepted by faith.
In public and private schools, I believe we should give students both sides of the story. Either the world was created randomly and without purpose, or the world was created by a loving Creator for an express purpose. I go to a Christian school, and though we believe in Creationism, Evolutionism is still taught. Both as THEORIES. I'm not saying public school teachers have to get up and read Genesis to their class, but they need to give students both sides of the story. That's the truthful and fair way.
Everyone in America deserves a choice, at least that's what they tell us: the choice of abortion, the choice to marry whomever you choose and the choice to choose your own religion. How can you expect the young people in America to be able to make a good decision if you only give them one side? Freedom of Religion is one of the basic values of our country. Everyone should be able to learn what their religion believes instead of having the theory of evolution shoved down their throats.
They say that the Christians in America are forcing our religion onto people while our children are forced to sit in class and listen to a theory be taught as fact and told that their religion is not valid. How is that freedom of religion?
There is no reason why both perspectives cannot be taught together. Students will be able to make better informed decisions if they are given both sides of the argument. Providing both sides of the debate would only be beneficial to everyone and there is no reason it shouldn't be done.
Creationism should be taught in public schools. People are so offended if people bring up creationism, but how do they think we feel only being taught evolution? People who say " I would not get along with my teacher who teaches creationism", is extremely absurd to me. Graduating from a public school and being a christian, I'm offended that all I was taught was evolutionism. If your going to teach one you also need to teach the other.
Creationism is science and there is ample evidence supporting it. Both are incredibly valid theories, both are supported by science. In science class, students have the right to know both sides. Not giving them all the information is either deeming them incapable of deciding for themselves or going against the fact that science always needs to be questioned and that theories can't be taught as facts. It takes more faith to believe in evolution than creationism.
In some states, teachers are actually required by law to provide as much knowledge as they possess about any given topic. Meaning they are compelled to present each and every view that pertains to a topic. So legally, some schools have to to give the arguements for both creationism and evolution.
I think you should teach both because intelligent design has some scientific backers. I was taught both and prefer evolution, but either way I don't see ANY harm from being balanced...
Creationism is a theory describing how the world, as we know it, came to be. Evolution is a theory describing how the world, as we know it, came to be. Neither theory has been proved or disproved; either theory has the possibility of being partially, or completely, true. It is responsible and desirable that the scientists and theologians of tomorrow are educated about both theories.
By teaching only evolution, the government is imposing on our rights to freedom of religion. Evolution is not fact, all you ignorant people who voted "no." They are giving us only one option to choose from: "this is only a theory, but it's the only theory I'm going to give you." You need to teach all options, or none at all. If church and state are indeed separate, why do we swear on the Bible in court? And you don't have to have a religion to believe in creationism. Even if I wasn't a Christian, I wouldn't believe the theory of evolution. There is no way I am related to fish and apes.
Evolution is just a theory as well, it can not be proven. Therefore it is just an argument against creationism. So why would it be acceptable to teach evolution in a public school and not creationism. In my opinion, by teaching evolution, you are trying to persuade my children that our god did not create everything base on some "scienc?" That can not be proven.
Honestly I figure if I post on this side it may get through to one of you. How naive are you that you are denying the plausibility of evolution but you accept the idea that not one organism has changed since the beginning of time? If that were the case, why are there no homosapien skeletons found during prehistoric times? I am a catholic and believe in God, but how can you look at the Bible and assume that everything in it is word for word accurate? It was written and created by men and to err is human (I believe it says that somewhere in the good book) so wouldn't it just maybe be possible that they messed up a teensy weensy bit when writing it? If you honestly don't accept that evolution may be possible you aren't a true Christian, you're an idiot.
religious equality is nonexistant in america. evolutionists are allowed to force their beliefs on creationist students (i'm one of them) without reproach. if both are taught as theories nobody has to get offended.
How is it fair to subject children to the Big Bang theory but we're not able to tell them about creation, the very belief this nation was based on. If evolution was a PROVEN FACT then it wouldn't be a THEORY and couldn't be proven wrong. I believe every child should have the option of choosing for themselves what they believe or don't believe.
Creationism isn't proven, yes. But neither is evolution. Natural selection and speciation are tested and proven, but the THEORY of evolution is not. Teaching only one or the other is not fair to us, the students, because it doesn't give us the opportunity to use our brains and think independently, like schools are encouraging us to do. The reason we don't teach creationism in school is because the proof of it is in the bible, which apparently is not a reliable source?? But this argument is ridiculous and hypocritical, because evolution isn't proven anywhere. People have conducted experiments proving that overtime, we adapt to our differing environments. But to say that we evolved from nothing but lumps of matter is crazy. Brain cells and the immune system, and respiratory, etc. are far to specialized to just be adaptions from nothing. There had to be some intelligent design. Regardless of what you believe though, it is not our job to shove opinions into the brains of students and call them fact when thy're not. They need to be able to learn about both sides, and decide for themselves.
There is no upstanding evidence that says that evolution is real. It is constantly being changed to fit the evidence that we find. Example one: we have not found ANY intermediate links. NONE. Example two: nothing in neo-Darwinian or Darwinian beliefs can explain the Cambrian explosion. It is too short of a time for natural selection to take place.
There should be options. A child may feel like evolution is only being taught in schools rather than creationism because it is the correct way. That is a decision that should be left up to the child and/or his parents. The government should have no control over one's religious views or opinions. First Amendment. Look it up
Every child should have the right to choose and teaching them along side each other allows them to choose which one they think is true and which one they think is not. It is good for kids to think and to be exposed to different theories so they know the difference when defending what they believe and can counteract on a debate between the two. Also evolution and creation are both theories and you must have faith in order to believe in one or the other and its not fair if only evolution is taught... They are both theories so they should both get the chance to influence the children.
Students should be educated on both. Each view is based off of religion. You either have atheism or Christianity. If you are an athiest, you should know what others believe about how the world began. If you are a Christian, you should know about what others believe about how the world began. Learning about both side, does not mean that you have to believe the side you don't agree with. If one side is so wrong, then how is learning about how someone else thinks the world came to be going to shake your beliefs?
I think it's only fair that Creationism be taught alongside evolution. Evolution has too many holes and evolution in itself is not science, it is a belief system but that it has been declared "science" and "fact". Students have a right to know both sides and to make better informed choices between the two. Besides it would make the learning experience a lot more interesting!!
Both evolution and creationism are theories which are supported within the scientific community so they should both be taught in school. Not only that, but creationism has a vast array of scientific data to make it a very sound and valid possibility, which is something that should definitely be introduced to students. For example, the incomprehensible complexity of organisms and their design, goes contrary to all statistical laws and scientists are always discovering new facts about how intricate and delicately balanced lifeforms are. Evolution, which is a highly debated stance nowadays in the scientific community, has lots of short comings including its premise that order comes out of disorder, which violates many laws such as the 2nd law of thermodynamics, yet is taught in schools. If evolution is deemed "scientific" and allowed, then certainly, creationism ought to.
My friend went against the Biology teacher on the theory of Evolution in class. She in turn, obviously, was not one of the teacher's favorites. But the school system should really have both so the student could have a decision to make. Evolution, or Creation. Think of the earth as a tomato. The question is if this tomato is a vegetable or a fruit. And one side supports fruit and the other, vegetable. But what if the school system only taught students that the tomato is a fruit. Would that be a fair battle against Veggie team? No. So it should be the same for both arguments on the worldview of the earth.
Our nation has been shoving a one sided opinion down our children's throats for only a short while so why are we suddenly against everything we once, as a nation, believed? Our leaders if anything need to be open minded. We can not continue to confuse our children by teaching them this contradicting to their and my beliefs. If you are going to teach one untrue thing you can at least teach the truth on the side.
You should not brainwash kids with Evolution. That is just wrong. Teach Creation in public schools help them know the truth and not the lies people tell you. This is something I strongly believe. Fight against Evolution being taught in schools. Tell people about Christ right now today. Go Creation.
People need to make their own decisions in today's society. It is hard to do that when your parents are making that for you and you're not truly informed of how life is today. They need to be educated correctly before they can make their own decisions and view points.
From what we know about evolutionary theory, the theory has only been able to pump out facts about virus's and bacteria. Fossils that appear in the Cambrian explosion and the mammalian radiation show signs that nothing came before them. In fact, evolutionary theory cannot and has not explained how they showed up in the first place.
Evolution cannot not explain where DNA has come from, or why the constants in the universe are so precise in numbers. Both could complement each other if they where taught side by side rather than say one is wrong or one is completely right.
Its not fair to the students to only say one side to the story. I myself believe in creationism. Theirs evidence proving creationism is real there is no evidence proving evolution is real. Both should be taught so students actually know about creationism and not just evolution its not fair to only say one side of the story and if creationism is taught students will realize their is evidence showing it is real and that evolution is not real and there is no evidence to support its real.
You could argue that both evolution and creationism are beliefs, only one is taught in public schools. Why would we shun a belief in a country that is built on Christian precepts. This is the only country I have been to or heard of that puts its own faith (at least in origin) and places it on the back burner for other faiths and lifestyles. NO OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD DOES THAT.
There is proof to support creationism, but not evolution. Evolution is wrong and is illogical. Creationism can explain everything. Jesus' resurrection alone proves everything. He was hung on a cross and died. He definitely died. No doubt about it. He was buried and rose again 3 days later. Over 500 people saw him. About the earth being "millions of years old", if God could create a mature man, why couldn't he create a mature earth? Creationism makes perfect sense if you understand it. God has revealed himself to some, not others. God picks who understands.
Many of the comments left in support of evolution state evolution as a "proven" fact, and creation as an unproveable theory. The fact is, evolution is just as much of a theory as creation. Nobody witnessed creation and it cannot be reproduced in a laboratory. Likewise, nobody witnessed evolution and it cannot be reproduced in a lab. Therefore they are both theories; nobody was there. Even Darwin did not believe his hypothesis to be a fact. He perfectly understood that his theory was indeed just that, a theory.
Many of the pro-evolution comments left here state that there is no evidence for creationism. They have obviously not explored the possibility. That's just the problem. Our students are being taught science from a limited, biased standpoint. They are not given the chance to apply their sense and logic and decide the matter for themselves, but rather they are programmed by the public schools to believe evolution. A free society allows people to investigate all possibilities and use their knowledge to determine what is true.
In response to condescending remarks made by evolutionists stating that their hypothesis is so much more "factual" than ours: Consider the fact that no evolutionist has ever answered the question of where did the first organism that blew up causing the "big bang" come from. If it came from another organism that had the same thing happen to it before. Where did that one come from? Evolution claims to explain the beginning of life, but that's just the part they struggle with, the very beginning.
Trust me no one wants to face the wrath. Because it is the best thing to do. We should not brainwash our children with nonsense of evolution. Soon those who don't believe will find out who's boss. The big G is coming back and it will be too late. CHANGE YOUR LIFE. DO IT NOW.
I think that you should have a choice in the matter whether you want to study evolution or The Bible. It would stop all this mess and confusion in the first place. Everybody will be happy. It is a simple solution to a big problem and you can learn about both.
Evolution is an unconfirmed hypothesis. It is as simple as that. It is part of an unproven theory; macro-evolution. More and more people keep teaching evolution as a fact when it's not! Creationism has as many points if not more then evolution. Creation has never had a disproving point whilst evolution has had many. Teachers are being fired on a regular basis for refusing to state that Darwin's theory a fact. We are a democracy, right? Christianity should be taught in schools. By forcing Christianity out of schools they take out the very policies our nation was founded upon.
Creationism is not about religion- it is about the true way this earth and all of its matter were made. Many people tie the word creationism with religion, and immediately there are those who are vehemently against teaching creationism. All branches of science were started by an insight on creation, but since the days of Darwin and probably before, evolution came into play and distorted the true meaning of science. You may argue until you are blue in the face, but creationism is truth, and it should be taught just as much and if not more than the evolution theory.
I think that even though there is no living eye witnesses to Biblical text, or other religions, they should still be an option for those who want to choose it. Back then, people were taught that electrons were part of the nucleus, and then information changed and people taught different things. Nothing is ever concrete except change itself, so why not be fair about it. People hate schools for all the required stuff that they don't care about that they have to learn. If religion is taught in school, in a science class or otherwise, people might get a brighter attitude towards learning. Based on the popularity of this topic, and atleast 90% of the world believes in some form of religion, this is a beneficial change. Even though some people who don't believe in religion feel like they are helping people by limiting it, it just isn't fair.
Everyone is arguing over whether each is true or not. But that is a matter of belief. Anyone can argue that their side has more evidence. So why not teach both and leave it up to the students to decide what to believe, instead of only teaching one theory of the origin of science. If you don't provide alternate ideas that many support, than you really aren't giving them a choice of what to believe.
All "proof" for evolution can be undone by an average 12 year, if they had the facts that public school is holding from them. For exampal, radio metric dating: radio meteric dating is inacurat because it asumes you know specifics about the original matirial. Evolutionasts love it because it is so inacurate, and shows thing are bilions of years old. DNA similarity is also stupid. We are more closely related to ducks and sheep than to apes. Another thing, the geological column is down right dumb! If the genises flood came through, why wouldn't animals be found in layers together. Some animals live closer to the water than others. The lack of proof is the other evidence agains evolution. While creation has sufician evidence, where are the missing links of evolution? Oh that stupid lizard bird the archeopteryx. Well for those of you that haven't herd, that was a hoax. The evolutionasts hushed it up, while they tryed to find solod evidence. It never came. Evolution is so dumb that they have to rely on trickery to hold their theoy up. If this isnt enough for you, read the evolution handbook . Teaching fiction and theories as fact is no way to educate the children in america. If you want your children to be lied to, go head and vote no. But it's on your own head! I believe that God is the answer, not a theory. You have to believe in eternal matter, or an eternal God. And when the evidance is so overwhelming...
Evolution is just a theory. We have no solid evidence that evolution happened. Some tests have been done saying they prove evolution but they don't. It is like saying this is a fire, if I put my hand in it will burn and therefore everything else will burn in the fire as well. This isn't the case if we put titanium in the force it wouldn't burn. Schools can't teach a theory that is based in opinions. They should have to teach different ways in which the world was created and this should include creationism.
I don't agree with Evolution because it has not shown me any proof and has only tried to force it on me in the public schools. I like to stick to the facts and where there is a creation there is a creator. Please show me one proof of evolution.
How is evolution anymore factual than creationism? Its simply not! If you want to just believe what scientists say, then take into mind that there are many scientists that are for creationism. Not only are they with it but the have so much more evidence on how were created by a God. Evidence that makes the evolution theory seem as foolish as it truly is. If we come from monkeys, then why are there still monkeys today? Why don't those monkeys eventually turn into a human "such as we did"? BECAUSE ITS FALSE. Does a new born baby stay a new born baby? Of course not,it carefully and beautifully grows into an adult, so why don't monkeys? In the 1940's the united states bombed Hiroshima, Japan. Complete destruction left as the outcome. Yea there very possibly may have been a big bang, where stars collided, but that is all it was, just an explosion, nothing beautiful can come from something meant for complete destruction. A big explosion is all the big bang was. Read the Bible, it lists multiple events that have and are to happen. Now the Bible, made thousands of years ago, predicting things that would happen in the future(of that time) that have already happened now? What would you call that? Coincidence? No, not at all. Even scientists who support evolution agree that there was a man who was pronounced dead for three days, rose and lived again, now how is that SCIENTIFICALLY possible without some sort of upper power? Its not...
The real truth is that evolution is not fact. There is no hard evidence for evolution. You could argue that point for creation as well, since essentially it all comes down to faith in God, our one and only creator. The science department teaches evolution as factual information, when most of the "facts" come from speculation and hasn't even been proved at all.
The fact of the matter is, evolution is an easily disproven "theory" (can't really call it that when a theory is an idea with nothing to disprove it but hasn't enough evidence to be made a scientific law). The fact is that creationism is easily proven, so why subject our children to have a false, impossible idea (evolution) shoved down their throat without putting any actual facts of how our world began, like creationism, in the classroom? Laws of science, like the first and second law of thermodynamics, prove evolution is a croc. We have never found any "in between" creatures - bird to fish, dinosaur to duck, whatever - ever. According to evolution, there should be billions of these, one for every stage of change from one characteristic to the next. There are NONE of those, anywhere. How do you explain symbiotic creatures all over the world - thousands of them? There is so much evidence stacked up against evolution, I'd have to type a book to get it all in. The fact is, we didn't go from the goo to the zoo to you, you aren't the 22nd cousin to the monkey, and there is a meaning to life. Where you see a design, you know there was a designer. And this world is far too perfect, set just right, tilted just right, atmosphere and gravity just right, just far enough from the sun to be warm without being roasted or freezing to death, it's all too perfect to have just randomly happened by accident. All our body systems - digestive, nervous, cardiovascular, limbic, none could survive without all the others - they would've all had to happen at the same time. Its impossible otherwise. So, yes, creationism in schools - the only logical fact of how the Earth and everything and everyone on it came about.
I am a student in a small town in the Midwest and from that I can say that what is needed is both to be taught. I have found that when both are in a classroom it creates a good debate. This makes both be considered by the other side. I wish that both sides would so this. ONE, stop insulting each other, insulting the other side proves nothing but that youre a jerk. Your point can be proven by kind words and you need not rage and rant to get your point across. This goes for both sides. As a 17 year old I wish that my elders would be a little wiser than me however it is being proven that you are not. So lets play nice, children.
A hopeful kid.
When Darwin came up with the theory for evolution, the microscopes were very simple and all he could see was the basic shape of a cell. He said that if we later found cells to be more complex, his theory would be impossible. We now know that cells are much more complex, so why are we still even debating this theory??
Atheists aren't even 100% sure how we got here. After all, their idea of creation, and evolution is just theory, not scientific law. I know I have no more proof than Atheists on how we got here, but I don't exclude or discard their ideas on how we got here like mine are always discarded. I think the answer lies in between religion and science. If the idea of being a liberal and standing for everyone's rights, how is it fair that only the Atheists' ideas on how we got here taught at school? Because our ideas are a threat to their science? Atheists are just as (if not more) biased towards Christians and their ideas, than the Christians are back.
It should be clear first of all, that we are discussing whether God created individual parent families or genera as opposed to a common ancestor. The logically opposing theory to a common ancestor is whether types of animals were created that then microevolved to their environments, becoming the varieties we see today. Intelligent Design, on the other hand, merely encompasses 2 of the 4 weaknesses Darwin himself conceded existed in evolution, unusually complex design, and complex instinct in nature, and is not a theory in itself. Darwin devoted 4 chapters of "On the Origin of Species", chapters 6 through 9, to addressing these weaknesses,
"In the four succeeding chapters, the most apparent and gravest difficulties on the theory will be given: namely, first, the difficulties of transitions, or in understanding how a simple being or a simple organ can be changed and perfected into a highly developed being or elaborately constructed organ; secondly, the subject of Instinct, or the mental powers of animals; thirdly, Hybridism, or the infertility of species and the fertility of varieties when intercrossed; and fourthly, the imperfection of the Geological Record."
Ultimately, the theory of a common ancestor is one that cannot be witnessed today and contradicts the whole of the fossil record. Whereas microevolution, adaptation by a species to its environment, can be witnessed today, we have never witnessed macroevolution where a species becomes an entirely different form of species. Furthermore, as observed by the Brothers Winn, bacteria are evolving 525,000 times faster than humans, and we've been observing them since the invention of the microscope, yet while they've changed and adapted as bacteria, they've never microevolved into a new, higher form of life.
Furthermore, the theory of Punctuated Equilibrium was invented in 1972 to explain why the fossil record did not show macroevolution, indeed Gould and Eldredge in their original paper concede the lack of transitional forms. The fossil record shows steady, gradual microevolution with no transitional forms and then sudden appearance of different species as though they were suddenly created, so Punctuated Equilibrium sought to explain this evidence to support evolutionary theory by suggesting evolution just went slowly and then suddenly sped up too fast to be witnessed in the fossil record. However, as pointed out by Walter ReMine, this makes evolution unfalsifiable and thus unscientific.
By definition, a theory is not factual. Even Darwin acknowledged that evolution is a theory that has not yet been factually validated. I am a realist, not a creationist. And the sad reality is that what we are taught in public school is not always accurate. But people still want to believe what their teachers tell them. Bottom line is that evolution is just one unproven theory. If you claim to be conducting a true scientific inquiry, how can you deny discussion of a different theory? Much of the discussion here reveals that the commentators have strongly held beliefs that have not yet been subjected to rational analysis.
Because its only fair to teach both. Both are theories and both are religions. I don't think its fair to just teach one side and not the other. Give the students a choice on what they want to believe. Everything has two sides and so does creation. I do however believe in the Bible's teachings God is the creator.
I am a Catholic and I believe that God created us, as stated in the Genesis. Although I don't believe in the theory of evolution, I respect the ones who do. As you may know, the theory of evolution is always changing, yet the Bible isn't (it is timeless). Creationists have found evidence for creationism. You can visit this page for more information: http://southshorebible.Org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/The-Ultimate-Proof-of-Creation.Pdf and http://stories.Cyragon.Com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/TheUltimateProof.Pdf For those people who say that church should be separate from state, Atheism is also a religion. Hence, it isn't fair for atheists to force their religion on others. In my opinion all of you who are against creation are hypocrites. You say that students should have religious freedom so, why don't you teach creationism too? I bet that you wouldn't want your science teacher making you take tests about something that is contrary to your beliefs. Please be fair and have some empathy.
I don't want to be forced into thinking i came from nothing out of the mud and moved to water then came back on land. It's bogus. There's no proof in either of them, and theres things to prove evolution is wrong. I'd rather work from God down then from mud up. It's stupid. Think about all of the holes and the stuff. Think about it.
In the Private Christian high school that I attended, I was taught about the Theory of Evolution in my science classes. I think that the public schools should teach their students about the possibility of Intelligent Design. Since the Theory of Evolution cannot be proved (just as the theory of gravity, cell theory, etc), public school kids should be taught that there might be another cause for this world. I learned Evolution, they should also learn Creationism.
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: a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government
Having seized power of our educational institutions, the illiberal left will fight all theories that undermine its ability to control the minds of our youth.
I have a teacher who actualy is teaching both. It's a bit weird since in one lesson she says "GOD ceated people and everything else" and in the biology class "it's evolution". But she can do little about it because she's required to theach us both. She may not believe in evolution while I think think creationism is just nonsense. But nobody actualy cares about my opinion, they just want my aswers.
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Evolution is not law. It is not proven. More like propaganda against Christians. Honestly I don't think they should teach either, maybe make it an elective class. I belive the parents should make the decision instead of just shoving something we cant prove down our kids throats and teaching it as law.
I believe in creationism, just like most of the people on the YES side. There is documented evidence that the Flying Spaghetti Monster created us with his noodly appendages. In fact, according to the page http://www.Venganza.Org/category/evidence/ , there is indisputable evidence that we are in fact created by a flying spaghetti monster. I can assure you that that site, being a .ORG, is completely neutral and unbiased. Since Pastafarianism is recognized by many major countries, I believe that the FSM be given an equal share of time.
Actually, I take that back. The FSM has been scientifically proven to be holier than other deities via the time-tested communion test.
It has been suggested that the communion served by the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster will lead to better and more long-lasting nutritional benefits than, say, the Christian communion. Through deductive reasoning, this can be taken to provide evidence of His Noodliness.
As support for this thesis, we selected two subjects of average height, weight, and intelligence. We then placed them on a seventy-two-hour fast in order to reduce outside factors. After seventy-two hours, one subject was given the Christian communion, consisting of a paper-thin wafer. The other subject was given the FSM communion, consisting of a large portion of spaghetti and meatballs.
Both subjects had their vitals recorded before and after communion. Upon completion of the test, the Christian was found to be listless, with decreased heart rate, body temperature, and brain function. The Pastafarian recorded increased heart rate, body temperature, and brain function, commenting that he felt "full," which we interpreted to mean whole.
Some may say that 1,200 calories of spaghetti versus 2 calories of wafer do not make a fair and valid experiment, and they may have a point. We have sought to keep the experiment as close to a realistic communion setting as possible, but in the interest of science, we've devised an additional experiment, whereby each subject receives the same total number of calories. Our findings were that the Christian became violently ill upon consuming 2,500 calories in wafers (or 1,250 wafers) while the Pastafarian continued to show increased vitals, thus illustrating His Noodly Presence.
If schools discuss the THEORIES of evolution they should at least discuss the fact that it is incomplete. Schools are going far beyond what there is evidence of. Schools teach that morals are an evolutionary adaptation and that the human brain is the result of monkeys getting smarter. There is no evidence for either of these just raw theories based on evidence of evolution. Regardless of what you believe the theories of convergent and divergent evolution, evolution of morals, and why humans are truly human are just theories, with almost no evidence either way. If these theories can be taught why shouldn't creationism be mentioned and the inconsistencies I mentioned, noted. Kids are immature treat everything learned in the classroom as fact, so you have to be extremely careful with what you teach them. The human brain has not just "evolved" to become bigger but has developed the ability to discern right and wrong, questioning life, create and enjoy art, and produces emotion these are all unique to humans, evolution logic can theories just as creationism can theorizes the reasons for this. When there is so little evidence that evolution produced this why choose to tell kids that they are no different then animals. That humans have no purpose beyond procreation and self love. As a whole if you listen to what books like the bible actually say it is good for a person and society to hear. While lack of morals, lack of accountability and lack of purpose are not. I don't understand why atheist feel called to crush what they believe are other peoples hopes and dreams, when they "should" only feel called to make babies and produce endorphins.
Students should also be aware there is a higher source then themselves. It another way of looking at creation. It is being connected to something else then these world and be able to respect humans at level that most of us don't have knowledge. Know that there is another life beyond what this world has to offer.
There's a reason why its called the THEORY of evolution. Because there is no solid complete evidence that it is fact. As a believer, I know that creation is true, however, I understand that there is also no 100% scientific proof for it either, therefore the THEORY (even though for any believer, its not a theory) of creationism should be taught alongside evolution.
School is for learning, learning different things and being educated. Let the students be educated on both, and they can decide which one they think is true. What would it hurt? Maybe parents could choose if they want their child to learn it in school, if you are absolutely against it, there could be a class for students that only want to learn evolution, even though I think it is only fair to the child that they get to learn both.
There is no reason as to why a student should not have his own viewpoint of the world. I am against violence and extremism of any sort, whether it be political or religious. That being said, I feel that people should be given a right to think for themselves on their own two feet.
Why must people be taught to obey a single, fixed system? A human being is meant to believe and perceive. A school that thinks and teaches a certain way that is thought to be right may be wrong entirely. As of now, students are taught to go to college. College is not for everyone and many people are in debt because of it.
Schools should not be biased and should teach their students to be confident, independent people who become thinkers who will lead this country to success. Suppressing imagination and curiosity suppresses science and society.
When the debate arises of whether to teach evolution or creationism, there shouldn't be one at all. Teach kids both and allow them to think about the pros and cons of each. We can even tell them which we think is more right but still let them decide which one makes more sense. This goes deeper than just evolution and creationism. It helps to develop a decision making process that is crucial to have in life.
My honest opinion is that neither should be taught in schools. Both of these views require assumptions about what is scientifically unknowable. Creationism and Evolution are actually not opposed to each other but talk about two completely different issues. Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of the universe; possible humanity, but not the universe. If there are all sorts of different beliefs in public school, then there should be no indoctrination. It would be improper to teach creationism as the sole possibility. So why is it ok to teach evolution in that matter? Regardless of our personal biases, the point of education is not to learn a point of view, but learn about life. Withholding any information about the creationism view disregards the education standard for excellence in any field of knowledge.
The schools teach the theory of evolution as fact. Science means knowledge, so if we the students need to learn more knowledge then teach us both and let us choose which one makes sense. I have not been shown enough evidence to show that evolution makes more sense opposed to creation. I believe that everyone should make up their own mind, and if no one is taught creation then how can we determine what makes more sense? Not everyone can learn creationism, you would need a church or something. We need to have an equality in America. Too many people are hating on Christians and things related to them. Why? We should all have the right to learn as much as we can and make our life the way we want and not be told what to believe and what not to believe.
Duhh, God created the world and everything in it. It is not honoring to God to defy him. You need to honor God by saying and knowing that God alone Created the earth, not some huge accident. I don't know what you are thinking, but the idiots who voted no need Jesus.
Creationism is widely known throughout the world. People long to put their faith into something positive, to have something to hope for in the future. If people didn't have faith, hope, desire to push on through life for something better. Where would they be? What would motivate them? The answer is nothing. Children should be taught a theory (just as evolution is a theory) that they can benefit from. Not something that is empty, not offering consolation for life after death.
We should have a choice to choose to learn about faith if we want. We should be able to choose what we learn about in school. I don't like being forced to take science and learn about evolution. I want to learn about what I believe. I want a class where its okay to pray and learn about the bible.
The teachers of our day are doing students a great disservice by only teaching about evolution. It essentially makes the students unaware of the view of creation. From an academic standpoint, creationism needs to be taught because it expands the learning of an individual. Whether creation is correct or incorrect is not the point in this argument. We should present all aspects in every subject; not just the aspects that we believe. Let the students decide for themselves what they want to believe. Make them think. Make them work. If teachers keep telling them what to believe and think, then they will contribute less than their maximum potential to society. Tell a student one side of the story and he will believe it without question. Tell him both sides of the story and he will believe one by proving, to himself, how the other is false.
1. Our country was founded under God, the Creator.
2. Teaching only evolution does not support the diverse beliefs of the students.
3. Evolution has no real historical evidence
4. How will students be able to choose what to believe for themselves when the only thing they have been taught is evolution? How will they know that creationism is right or wrong? they need to know about other theories so that they are able to see why they believe what they do, or to explain to someone with an opposing opinion why they are wrong.
You do realize that most other countries laugh at us not because of religion, but because of our education level and all the fat foods we eat, right? Most other countries have some form of God, so if they laughed at us, it would be like laughing at themselves as well. It's people who insult others for believing in a God that should be shamed from their children. Anyway, I feel like both should be taught because both could be true.
When it comes to the origin of life there are only two possibilities: creation or spontaneous generation. Spontaneous generation was disproved years ago; you cannot create organic life from inorganic matter. A good example of creationism or intellient design? the DNA molecule, an incredible micro, digital, error-correcting, redundant, self duplicating, information storage and retrieval system. Now that's science.
Science is the organized knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and examination. Obstructing the idea of intelligent design is a hypocritical action; blocking off a theory that has not been disproven would be foolish. And it is argued that evolution in respect to creationism takes more faith to believe its theory.
Scientist are not completely sure if the evoluation is true. They BELIEVE that "The Big Bang" theory is the most logical reason how our universe was created. People who BELIEVE in their religion that a moghty power that cannot be seen had created the whole universe. By the way, the key word in my statement is BELIEVE!
Until scientists can prove that evolution is a fact, not a theory, creation should be taught alongside it in schools. By teaching them both major theories, they will be presented with both beliefs and can choose what to believe on their own.
there is a textbook with the guts to publish the "fact" of evolution i believe that all plausible theories should be taught.
Creationism should be taught in public schools because children should have different points of view then they should make their own decisions on whether they choose to believe in creationism or in evolution.
creationism is a widly argued topic but it comes down to two things Evolution is not a proven fact yet they teach it like it is. I believe that creationism is a science. They explain everything that evolution does and even more. There are vallid explainations as to why it is not taught in school.
There is some good supporting evidence for creationism and the fact that so many people think that it is just from the bible shows people need to be better educated on the subject.
All theories should be considered. Both take the evidence and explain it through their world views. Evidence is continually emerging for creation as well as being debunked for evolution. We should be encouraging good healthy discussion not stifling it; isn't that what they did in the dark ages?
Yes, I do completely agree that public schools should teach creationism in science classes along with the evolution. As creativity is needed in all fields, public schools should teach things related to creativity along with evolution in science classes.
When schools teach only evolutionism it seems like they are trying to push that point on children. Many people don't believe in evolutionism and they actually believe in creationism. Families are pushed away from schools due to this fact. It just seems like the public education system isn't open to showing both sides and letting children make their own choices between the two.
All theories regarding the beginning of the world should be taught to students. Students shouldn't be fed information. They should be given all of the theories and decide for themselves what they believe in. Since it would be a science class, the instructor could focus on evolution; but he or she should still expose the students to the other options.
I mean that is what our nation was founded on, freedom of choice. So if you want to teach my kids theories about science then you ought to be teaching creation too. Let them decide! By teaching theories on science and not teaching the theory of creation that is being totally bias as a country. Do we really want our country to have the title of being biased. You want facts right? We'll science isn't the only theory that has facts, creation theory has facts too! So now our country isn't living by what we were founded on freedom of choice, that's okay just give them science, don't let them know all of the facts go ahead no body cares about all of the facts right? Just give them what you believe and not the other facts of creation. That sound totally ok.
I do believe that public schools should teach creationism with evolution in science classes. It is a part of history. Everyone has different beliefs, I don't think that one believe should be forced upon someone. Everyone has their own rights and thoughts. If the child does not want to be taught both then they should be in private school.
The Bible has many scientific facts expressed in it long before man had any clue about them, such as the world being round. Though men may change their view of the Bible, it does not change. Man is constantly changing his views on many things. Evolution is one of them. There have been many bogus attempts to prove evolution, but they keep changing. The Bible is fact, not theory. They should teach Fact along with evolution theory.
Yes because. 1) it is fair for the student because it allows him/her to decide which theory is true. 2) neither belief has been scientifically proven true. 3) the majority of American people do not believe in the theory of evolution. (-cbs news "poll: majority reject evolution" by sean alfano)
I'm currently a student, and I think that the curriculum nowadays is very narrowminded. They need to give us options and let us decide for ourselves.
Education is about giving children the ability to think for themselves not about telling them what to think. Due to this all points of view are valid. Teachers can tell students what various people believe and why and kids can then choose to extend that knowledge to find out for themselves what they believe.
Evolution and creationism are not hard facts like 1 + 1 = 2. By teaching just evolution and not creationism you are also teaching religion in schools, a religion called atheism. Which means your education is no longer secular.
Many people come to realize that both evolution and creationism can exist together and they need not be considered separate entities. Perhaps God did create the universe and gave it the ability to evolve.
I believe in a god who created the universe, and a god who created evolution, and a god who Created Jesus. It does not need to be an in depth thing, but a teacher can at least acknowledge that some people believe in creationism over evolution. It's not only Christians who believe in evolution by the way. I wouldn't say "teach" creationism, but don't say that evolution is the only thing that makes sense. People are free to have their own beliefs, and just as teachers can't "preach" to their students, they can't try to make them all atheists.
There is NO way to "scientifically prove" the origin of life--for a theory to become SCIENTIFIC FACT it has to be observable, measurable, and repeatable-all of which are obviously impossible to use to prove the origin of life-None of us were there at the time to observe it, it cannot be repeated (one-time thing) and you cannot measure it. Therefore-either theories of the origin of life require FAITH-one in an immortal GOD, the other, in immortal Matter (rocks/organisms/etc have just always existed). All the "evidence" evolutionists use is not evidence at all, it has all been disproven. Evolution is just humanity's way of creating their own story of how the earth began so they do not have to answer to a Higher Authority and therefore can do whatever they want and live their life according to their own agenda.
Every time some monkey-brained "genius" comes with a theory about evolution, it's just proven wrong. Besides do you actually on your own free will want to believe that you are a monkey?! I have met more people that tried to prove Jesus and God wrong and then are baptized into Christianity, than the other way around!
People say creationism is a religion, but so is evolution. Evolutionists believe the theory of evolution, creationists believe in creationism. "If creationism is taught then so should other religions." is what the NO people said, but how about evolution? It's a theory, never proven and its believed, therefore it is a religion too.
Creationism, along with aspects of all religions, is an aspect of our history as a human race. It has started wars. Religions need to be explained in our schools so that Americans can have a greater understanding of the diverse people around us. Americans of today are close minded and need to be more open minded towards different people.
It just isn't considered a "religion" as well. I've believed in God my whole life, so of course I'll take this side of the argument, because I believe that God saves people and lives. But I don't think that it should be "taught" in public schools, just mentioned in order to give students who are religions a better chance of not being bullied in school. studies have shown that religious students are bullied by other students who believe in evolution. the main reason for this being that students who believe in evolution sometimes consider religious students "uneducated." There have been cases of this all over the US for years.
There are a lot of interesting responses on both sides. The problem I have as I read through many of the responses are the number of people who attack creationism or evolution and not the original question of whether or not it should be taught in a science class.
As a person in education I do believe it has its place in school as students are curious about things and want to be knowledgeable, and can often be misinformed about about what they know as fact.
For those against I offer some thoughts on your responses. The issue of science being fact and creation, or a creator, being a myth seems to be at the core. For example "There is no literal truth to the Bible" yet it is used in the Archaeological field as reliable source to find lost cities based on exact biblical accounts and maps, there are also historical documents and writings from other civilizations that support the very things written in the bible.
When it comes to "Evolution is fact" the problem with that is that science continues to change as we evolve (ex. the earth flat,earth is the center of the universe, and new changes in scientific thought today) What will 100 years bring in what science does or doesn't know as fact.
If we take science as the proof of whether something is or isn't true we see in science that there is a Law of Physics called the 1st Law of Thermodynamics. It states that there cannot be an increase or decrease in matter in the universe, therefore matter cannot be created from nothing. So how did it get there? Science itself lends to a creator of such a beautiful creation.
Im no expert but these are just a few things that lead me to say it does have a place in schools and could be taught in a science class. Just a few of my thoughts.
Why would schools only teach one point of view about how the earth came to be? Students should be able to make their own decision on what to believe. Also, what happened to the religious rights of the teachers? Is religion not what our whole nation was originally based on?
Often raised against evolution is the concept that life cannot come from non-life. Now lets set aside the fact that this has nothing at all to do with biological evolution, which is the discussion of changes in existing life. Do creationists not realize that that in order to be a creationist, you must also believe that life came from non-life? The lowest form of Creationist will occasionally, in a fit of ignorance, exclaim "We didn't evolve from rocks!" while the slightly more cognizant variety will make the same claim however they will dress it up with slightly less ridiculous language such as "abiogenesis is impossible".
According to Genesis, humans were made out of dust, non-living material. So we have two theories: Scientific Abiogenesis and Theological Abiogenesis.
Scientific Abiogenesis (and keep in mind I'm a philosophy major, not a biologist so I might not have the best grasp of this concept) claims that very basic amino acids and proteins formed in the primordial ooze billions of years ago, and over the course of many millions of years and incremental, tiny changes formed incredibly simple organisms that slowly became more complex due to mutation.
Theological Abiogenesis claims God breathed on dirt and a fully functional human popped into existence.
Now at this time I will make no claim as to which one is true or false, I merely want to raise the point that when a Creationist claims that that Scientific Abiogenesis is ridiculous, the only alternative is a scenario that is many orders of magnitude more unbelievable. In what kind of mind is the latter of these two MORE logically sound then the former?
Both theories are essentially the same: Life came from inorganic material. However the Creationist theory also presupposes the existence of a preexisting INCREDIBLY complex intelligence, with no explanation or description of either the origin of this complex intelligence OR the processes it used to create life.
So why do creationists insist on Claiming abiogenesis is impossible? Their theory is BASED on a form of abiogenesis far less logical then the scientific theory of abiogenesis.
Children should be exposed to both ideas. Although scientists are quick to promote evolution as if it is proven fact, in reality it is a THEORY, and a theory with some pretty significant gaps. Evolutionary scientists have failed to produce undisputed transitional fossil forms to show how organisms evolved from simpler kinds. They are also unable to explain where the first cell came from, and then there's the obvious inconsistency with the big bang theory - how do you get something from nothing? I'm not saying that we shouldn't teach our children evolution - we should. However, we should not present it as undisputed fact. Exposing children to both theories will create a generation of well-rounded, independent thinkers who are able to take two arguments and discern for themselves which makes the most logical sense.
No, not "ALONGSIDE"! Similar to reading and math, they are two different subjects! Now had the question been, Should public schools teach creationism AS WELL AS evolution in SCHOOL? Then, my answer would have been, YES!
I feel that creationism should be taught in history class not science. When we say "creationism", we instantly think of "God", right? When we say God, we instantly think of "The Bible", right? The Bible is a "historical" book, right? Why not teach our kids, about both subjects! IT WOULDN'T HARM US, BUT HELP US GAIN A BETTER UNDERSTANDING!
In all subjects at school you learn multiple variations and different ways to do it or how to understand it. Teaching creationism is like teaching history, as i saw someone else post. Christianity and other religions is what structured the US and places we live. How can you saw the Pledge of Alligiance and say it under our Heavenly Fathers name but yet be so against it. It is history, we learn about it in school because without it our country would have been built upon other standards. Faith is so important to many. It is what make people who they are, how can you take away something so precious from our lives? Its like food, air and water for us, we need God and the word of God to survive. You cant go off saying no and it isnt real if you have no idea what our faith is about! You do not understand and therefore do not have the right to judge and ASSUME things. Its wrong and you cant make up things that u have no education on. Creationism is important because you see peoples point of views and how and why they are the way they are. Dont take away the most important thing to us.
It isn't about what is true or not true (to an extent.) The people obviously will never come to an agreement on only one side or another, so why not both. Creationism doesn't account for alot of things frankly. But evolution doesn't account for the actual creation of matter. Things just didnt happen. Lighting didn't strike a puddle of mud and boom, single cell organisms (yes i have heard that from some people.) The complexity of the human body or any body for that matter didn't just happen. It may habe been facilitated by a higher power. But to say that no one being did anything for you or watches over you or facilitated your evolution so that you could live is downright selfish. The reproductive system, sight, hearing, anything you can think of didnt just evolve into what it is. Single cells evolve into multicellular organisms. Okay i understand that, that is fine, but explain to me how they devoloped sight or any bodily function. What cells just happened to be mutated to have an eye? None, thats how many. They didnt decide it, God did. We don't know where he came from and neither do you. You don't "know" whether God exists, and neither do we. We can't explain it and we don't have. You can have your facts and statistics and i'll admit, theyre stifling. I've questioned my faith before, and thats what it is: faith. There is theory, and faith; two very different things. Some people say creationism is for the "uneducated." Yes i'm "uneducated" I'm 15, but theres a difference between smart, and educated. I believe in creationism and evolution, or a middle-ground between the two and I call that middle-ground : "Intelligent Design." Call me stupid, denounce my faith, denounce me, but don't tell me I don't know because you don't either. I have faith in my God, and for those of you who think they know there isnt a god or consider yourself "atheist": may God have mercy on your ignorant soul. Both sides can be taught in schools. It's a personal belief as to which you believe in and it's your choice, no the government's.
The nation we live in has many bright minded youth that our going to be the future of this country. We need to open their minds, make them think, think critically, and decide fot themselves, so that they can make their own decisions in their lives. We can't just control their lives and not let them learn how to make decisions because if they do not learn to think for themselves, to be themselves, to become leaders, then the USA is going to end up just like every great civilization in history. All great civilizations bring their own demise. And that is exactly what we are doing to ourselves. We are tearing our nation apart, and hurting our future. We need to engineer great generations to come so that America will become an even greater country than it is today. To become a world leader in all that we do. To become critical thinkers. I myself am an evolutionist. But we can't sacrafice the future of this country and the youth of this country because we don't belive in creation. We need to open these children's minds to make them think, be themselves, start a movement, become a LEADER. The future of this nation depends on the decisions we make now. We will effect the USA in one way or another down the road. We want that effect to be posotive. I'm not saying that we force an Islamic student to learn about creation and learn about the Christian God. Lets give our children a choice in classes, one that teaches creation, and one that doesn't. Let our children make their own decisions, become strong-minded individuals. Let them become the future of the nation that they too live in, and start now, leading the nation that we one day will no longer be here to run.
God doesn't create crime. Bad things occur in our lives because we are sinful people. I believe that God created the world because 1) it makes more sense than any other idea when you look into it and 2) the bible is a reliable source. Let me explain: When looking at evolution it would take a lot more faith to believe that eventually the chance or an organism developing and surviving than there being a creator to make everything. Plus when we look at it, we aren't gaining development but actually losing information in our genes (such as less redheads in the world). Also the bible has been proven more and more to be reliable thinks to finding the Seven Dead Scrolls and the book of Isaiah being all acurate to today's text. Plus if the bible wasn't true then there would be over 30 authors that were considered crazy.
Creationism clearly is based on faith but so is evolution. Is there evidence that life started from a small atom and then evolved into all these different and perfectly made creations? The answer is no. Also, the big bang is not something to have evidence of but its all faith-based as well. To teach evolution in class should require a class that teaches creationism so students can make their picks on what they believe instead of just a one-sided view.
If the Declaration of Independence, one of the central documents of the republic gets its raison d' etre from the natural laws of the Creator, I don't see why our current public education can't at least give a nod to the same: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it...."
Considering that evolution is taught in public schools, I strongly agree that creationism should be included. So, yes! This teaching would be an introduction, not necessarily a sermon, if opposing views are concerning this. The first amendment states that we have the "freedom of religion". This is for everyone, including students. Therefore, creationism should not be excluded from curriculum. (Yes! Yes! Yes!)
I find it stubborn and unethical to not allow a student to learn from the side he/or she believes and supports in. Both should be taught, neither has been proving right or wrong without each others involvement. Evolution can be a part of theist ideology as well, we should not limit our students learning
Clearly, by the mere exclusive teaching of evolution, the majority of college students don't believe in creationism. If it's all they know, how can they believe anything else? If everyone believes in freedom of choice, why rob them of the freedom of the possible belief of creationism?!?! If the majority of people still believe in evolution even when both methods are taught, then it is the superior theory. I would love to see an experiment where in one school, they teach both, and then take a survey on who believed in creationism because of the course.
Neither "theory" has "proved" the other to be incorrect. Besides it teaches them to derive their own opinion. Also, it shows them how to be openminded and possibly accept two ways of thinking of one outcome. Most people just want to take sides when it comes to religion vs science, or proved vs unproved (Funny how most things in science built upon theories. We could just be believing loads of bull). It's not a black or white situation.
Under no circumstances should our children be given only one story when both are available. I am not advocating preaching to children in the classroom, but they should be aware of any competing theory to evolution, then encouraged to do the research themselves and write papers supporting what they believe without emotion or dogma. Growing up in a Christian home I was exposed to evolution even though my parents believed in creation. I appreciated their refusal to raise us as narrow-minded but to be open to hearing different and apposing viewpoints. As a Christian parent I am against my children only learning creationism, they must also be aware of evolution. I allow them to watch educational programming that supports evolution, as well as programming that supports creationism. We must train our children to go after their own information, I am not content with them simply repeating what I say like a parrot, they must understand what they believe.
If the schools want to teach a well balanced curriculum then they need to teach all aspects of science and religion. Evolution takes faith to actually believe in it, that as a theory its not fact so either stop teaching any and all faith based ideas ie... Religions, or teach them all.
Although I personally believe that the theory of Evolution is more plausible, Evolution as well as Creationism are not proven to be fact. Only teaching one of the theories would result in not being knowledgable about the other. Therefore one would not have the necessary education on both topics to fully believe one theory. By taking away the teachings of one, freedom of opinion would be taken away as well.
Evolutionary theory is just that, school is supposed to throw out ideas and let the students decide what they want to believe. Not just give them one option. By only teacher evolutionary theory they are not giving students any options, they are saying, "here believe this and if you don't want to then sorry we have nothing else for you."
All throughout school, my teachers have emphasized cross-curricular learning. They want us all to combine various subjects to see how they overlap and interact. In history, for example, we are taught about the history of the scientific revolution and art. In music, we learn the science of movement and breath alongside our actual concert pieces. Religion is a huge part of American culture, so it should be included in classroom learning in the form of creationism taught in science classrooms
The most common argument against creationism being taught in school is. As far as I know, that it is not scientifically supported. This is a misconception. There are many scientists supporting the cause, and creationism could very well be taught in schools from a purely scientific perspective, without any references to the Bible if so were to be the case. This is nothing but positive, as our children deserve to choose for themselves which theory they find the most likely. They should be taught critical thinking not just be told that the evolution is the only likely way because their parents happens to believe this. Another common argument I've heard is that Christians are trying to force our children to their beliefs by teaching creationism in school. But then what is evolutionists and the school doing today if not just that? School should be completely objective in this matter and the children should have the right to the ability of thinking for themselves.
Yes, Because everyone is entitled to their own opinion, therefore many people have their own beliefs, and so if you are able to teach evolution then you should HAVE to teach all the others, creationism and such. It just doesn't make sense to only teach one. It's a sense of brainwashing?
If you can't teach creationism, then you should not be able to teach Evolution.
Evolution has not been proven it is just a theory there is no proof that it has happened the only reason that evolution was taught in school in the first place was because during the cold war the soviet union started to teach this in their schools so the USA thought that then needed to teach it to keep up with the soviets. But in all honesty i think that all religions should be allowed to be taught in school we are a country founded on freedom of religion why cant it be taught in school
A basic rule of mathematics and science. Yet, those who ardently argue that evolution is a "fact" seem to have forgotten this basic facet of their own system of beliefs. The Theory of Evolution's support is coincidental. No one can prove that evolution is the reason we have species that are remarkably similar in genetic makeup and appearance throughout the fossil record. In order to do so, one would have to systematically chart in real time the genetic development of every single species on earth. What Evolutionist have is a theory, which IF true, has the ability to partially, and not completely, explain the development of our species. Their support comes from the fossil record. Yet, just because the fossil record has evidence which, if interpreted through the lens of evolution, would appear to support evolution does not mean that evolution itself is the cause of those genetic developments. Correlation of evidence with the theory of evolution is not causation. That is to say, the fossil record may appear to demonstrate Evolution's validity, however due to the fact that we are not observing the genetic development of that specific species in real time, we can not say for certain that evolution IS the ONLY reason that species developed as it did. To do so would be a strong assumption. Therefore, other explanations must be taught, to provide students the opportunity to make up their own mind, using logical analysis, or emotional attachment, whichever they chose to utilize.
I personally agree with the theory of Evolution as the origin of mankind, as it makes more sense to me, and I am sorry to admit that I am surprised some people still believe in Creationism. However, both are merely theories, and we must put aside our own opinions and the more widely accepted opinions and give both theories to today's youth to better teach them of the world. Although some may say this will misinform them, and I agree that creationism is not an applicable theory any longer, to teach the one theory one should teach the other. Thus, the child is taught that someone out there may have a different opinion than there own, and, however minimal a chance there is, your opinion may be proven inferior to the others.
I think that if you're going to teach theories on evolution then it is only fair to teach the same on creationism. Not teaching it only provides student with one way of thinking. Evolution and the "Big Bang" are opinions that are somewhat backed by scientific research but the same can be said for creation. The only reason they don't teach it is because some see it as mixing church and state. Religion most always goes with creation and no government official is going to let that happen. Which I think is a terrible and sad thing.
Creationism is a theory that guides the beliefs of millions of people, because creationism is not a purely Christian idea. Creationism refers to the idea that one higher being created the earth and all of its inhabitants. It then splits into groups, intelligent design and creation science, which is not what this question is asking. The idea is that creationism would be taught as a social science because there is no hard proof that a higher being does in fact exist.
No, creationism does not pass Occam's razor, but neither does evolution. There is no hard facts that evolution exists on the scale that scientists believe brought about human life on the earth. There are general small species evolutions that occur based on the idea of adapt and overcome, but we can see that anywhere.
The idea that humans have been around for the entire 6.4 billions supposed years that the earth has been created is preposterous as well as the idea that the earth is only 6,000 years old. Neither of those figures are what they seem. The earth has been estimated by scientists to be around 6.4 billion years old, but for a good portion of that time, the earth was inhabitable by any thing. The idea supported by creationists is that the human race has existed for only around 6,000 years, not that that has been the entire time the earth has existed.
My point is that creationism should not be disregarded by school systems solely on the fact that it is based around religious systems. It should be taught because of the information it provides into the insight of why people do what they do and many more plausible reasons to learn about it. We can learn to treat creationism the same way we have learned to treat evolution: in a healthy respect of the knowledge it provides but not telling student that this is the only way.
I feel that mankind has taken its biggest tole of bigotry by not letting people decide for themselves what might be true. They are both theories no matter what. Sequentially, I don't believe we will ever know the truth, except by faith, and we have to have some sculpting in the matter of "growing." I think that both sides are extremely valid in argumentation, we all need to just let go of our egos and think a little for ourselves by "soul-searching."
Many think of Evolution as a theory (it is) that has been accepted and taught as truth. Regardless of our personal beliefs, Why should a student learn of all the possibilities for the origins of the Universe? We push for equality in so many areas today and want all to have an "open mind". Why not in this area as well?
It is good to teach those things in school. I also wouldn't mind learning about those things. I think teachers should get a bunch of things to choose from this being one of them and only pick a few a let the kids really learn about those subjects. Yes this sounds crazy but I think it will help at least cut down on the amount of tests the students have to take.
Both scenarios hold merit. Why only teach one? That limits the perspective of young students. Evolution has flaws and creationism, while it lacks scientific credibility, DOES explain a POSSIBILITY just like evolution does. Either one could be true.. Either is proven. At the very least, teach creationism if not for 10 minutes in class just to open the minds of the kids and spend the next 8 months teaching evolution. Creationism cannot be ruled out.
Why are evolutionists afraid? If its so ridiculous to believe we are here by design and for a purpose, teach the evidence for both theories and teach students to think critically. If in fact evolution is true, where are all the millions of transitional fossils from all the small mutations over millions of years? They do not exist, because all organisms and species were created just as we find them. If we all mutated from primordial goo, where did the goo come from? Where did the matter come from that caused the Big Bang? Evolution is so far fetched that it takes more faith to believe it over creationism. Evolution leads to Atheism, which is a form of religion and therefore should not be taught in schools on the same basis evolutionist use to try and keep out the science of intelligent design. We need to wake up and start using some common sense.
Evolution is a theory. So why do we favor it over other theories? This is a country of liberty and equality. Our focus is on not letting one religion prevail over the others. Therefore we decide to let the one theory that seems least like a religion to be taught. The theory of evolution has spread all over America, and has developed into a religion of its own. Faced with no other alternative, students are accepting it as fact. Evolution has yet to be proven, so for the time being it should not be accepted as fact without knowledge of other theories.
If we choose to not teach any theories, students may be left wondering how the world began, without getting any answers. We could give them the option of choosing which theories they wish to hear, but then they would not be exposed to the other theories. The only other option is to teach both evolution and creation. To prevent confusion, the teachers would have to state that these are both theories, and neither one has yet been proven. Then the students would have enough background information on both topics to later decide which theory they believe.
One of the reasons evolution was chosen over other theories is it seems more scientific. Teachers have been informed to great lengths about what evolution is, and what evidence has been found to prove it. They mostly likely only have a vague idea about what creation is about, unless they believe in it. Why would they research and try to understand this topic that they will never get an opportunity to teach? The teacher would be very detailed in explaining and defending evolution, so it would seem more scientific. However, since they did not research the other theories, the teacher may not be able to answer the students questions about them, and the student would only know that there are other theories. They would then think that the other theories are not as important or less likely to be true.
I voted yes because I believe all students should be taught to be rational, critical and open minded. Gobbling down Darwinian dogma is not teaching students to be freethinkers but is blatant indoctrination.
I do not just support the teaching of the Biblical Creation account, but also The creation accounts from other traditions should also be included. Most important though is that the evidence against Evolution should be openly taught and promoted.
In todays society where we are in so much need or urging everybody to be just. I find it astonishing that creationism is still not taught along side evolution in the classroom. We submit Christian students to listen to a THEORY that we believe is not true, but when the thought of teaching then creationism as a plan B to this theory it is said to be pushing religion "down their throats". What if i as a christian student i were to say the same thing? Why does my argument lack validity? Because this a theory that the school board approves? I believe that if we are going to teach evolution we should teach creationism, and if we do not submit to being fair we should not teach neither.
While we are supposedly given the freedom to believe what we want, our education system forces the ideas of Evolution and Darwinism down the throats of the young. At the registration and/or application to a school, they should be able to choose which course they wish to follow. Even if you believe in Evolution only, you won't have to hear the creationism side.
Let our children decide for themselves what to believe. If we are going to teach one theory on how humans exist on earth why not teach them all? Especially one so widely believed and foundational to so much of society throughout history as creationism. There is no reason to teach one and not the other as neither are proven to be how we got here scientifically. I feel that if schools were really interested in our children making informed decisions about the origins of life or really any debatable subject for that matter, they would present them with all options and let them decide what to believe. Either that or not teach things unproven
Why shouldn't they because you never truly know what happened. Why not teach multiple theories if you don't even know what really happened. It's not fair to only teach evolution because you think that's right when you don't even know. Overall creationism is just as right as evolution because frankly we aren't sure at all how it really happened.
I believe that we should teach evolution as well as intelligent design, after breaking intelligent design down to an idea that isn't more so from one religion than others. They are both theories, and thus should both be mentioned. This way, children can decide for themselves whether we evolved or were created and go from there to who created us (if they go with creation.) This way, Jews and Buddhists and Muslims and Pastafarians won't complain about what we're teaching. It will also give children a good example of how to distinguish science from stubbornness. If they really look at creationism and evolution, they will see ways they can go together, instead of being black and white. And, they can see Science vs. Pseudoscience. If provided with another, specific view of creation, they can see it is ridiculous compared to the others. So, yeah.
Regardless of what evolutionists say, they don't have any evidence to support their theory. Seriously, research it. Every piece of evidence that they find gets ruled out after a while because they find it wasn't what they thought. They still have not found their 'missing link.' Creationists believe that God created the universe and scientists can't prove that either. In confusion, both are theories and not facts. Students need to have a choice of what theory they want to believe. America has legalized abortions because women have the right to choose. Homosexuality is accepted in our society because people believe they (homosexuals) have a choice of how to live. In this regard too, students should be presented with both theories and be allowed to choose which they want to believe.
Children should be taught Creationism, as well as evolution because of the amount of Christians who believe in some form of Creationism in America and worldwide. They do not need to be taught that Creationism is fact, but they do need to know about the beliefs of others, so that if they were in a situation with someone of conflicting beliefs, than they would not disrespect them in any way.
Evolution and creationism are simply both theories! In creationism, an intelligent designer created the world using science. In evolution something came from nothing. Why should one side be taught? The intelligent Designer used science in order to create the earth, placing it at an exact spot for humans to be able to survive. That is the science in creationism. Evolution and creationism have the same evidence its just the difference in our assumptions. Evolution's theory has never been able to be replicated so therefore it is merely a theory. Teaching both sides of these topics in school would present two different sides, let the students decide what they want to believe, but I believe it comes across as unfair to only present one side. Almost like you are trying to hide something if you can't teach the one side but you can teach the other.
Our kids should know both sides to how humans came about. Children are starting to believe that we evolved from animals and others believe we evolved from god. And the other students are torn what to believe in because of religion and school. Even though our kids don't have to believe that our world was created by god don't matter they should know and pick what they want to believe. Instead of forcing them to believe in one thing to pass a class.
I was raised Roman Catholic and to believe every single word of Genesis and anything else is blasphemy. Well, like every other human, if you tell me not to do or believe something that is all I want to do. So, I started asking questions and educating myself on creationism. I am not going to go into my personal stance, I just think everyone should at the very least know all the options and choose for themselves.
While, of course, it would be wrong for schools to "brainwash" children into going along with Christian faiths, they still need to be shown the whole story. To make good decisions they need to see both sides of the argument; teaching only about Evolution is just as bad. Children need to be taught to make their own decisions and teaching creationism alongside evolution would allow them to do just that.
Why would you be completely be biased and only show just one side of the argument and force a student to pay for a private school just to choose their curriculum? Do we not wave the freedom to inquire other possibilities other than Evolution? Without paying 2-3 hundred dollars for a completely different school just for said curriculum.
Well yes we should but only to make it fair for students or parents who don't believe in evolution.
Now I myself don't believe in evolution. I am a Catholic who believes exactly what is said in the book of Genesis. I think that it is a religious offence to be teaching Evolution in the classroom, plus it's not even actual, it is still a theory that hasn't had enough evidence to be called fact. But, if you're reading this your are going to be thinking that I'm simply trying to convert everybody and force it on them. But I am not! I'm simply trying to say this. I'm trying to say that the teaching of evolution goes against the constitution that so many people died for to create and protect. In the constitution, it states that there is a separation of church and state. The reason why this is there is to provide no offence in the public school system. But these people say that, we should teach evolution because it is a fundamental part of science and isn't forcing people into Christianity because it's science and there is proof(Even though that it's a theory, not fact.) But, even if you are an atheist which I respect, you have to think about people that have a religion.You're offending them and not only that, you are breaking the amendment about separation of state and church by trying to force evolution and atheism on to our next generation. So now you are wondering, well if there is a separation of state and church, why should we be teaching creationism? Well I'll tell you why, TO MAKE IT FAIR!If people don't believe in evolution, then they should be able to hire a priest of the religion that the student believes in and have he or she teach creationism to the religious children. It's either allow creationism and evolution or ban them both America!
Both sides need to be taught because the topic is very subjective. Everything we know about our surroundings can be interpreted to support both sides of the argument, under all scientific branches like physics,geology,biology, do your own research and educate yourself. Being indoctrinated will lead us into scientific stagnation. Knowing both sides will generate better and smarter questions which will promote more research and development. The belief that creationism is completely religious and evolution being logical is an assumption of the poorly educated. There are theists and atheist that support and discredit both arguments. Above all educate yourself. Stating that creationism wrong because leads to religious belief is a logical fallacy.
If they're going to teach kids about evolution, they should at least teach them about creationism. When I was a kid, I was a strong Christian (still am) and hated learning about evolution and the big bang theory and having what I believe is the wrong stuff shoved in my head; and then having to be tested and write essays on them! I went to public schools, and if they're going to teach about one side, they should at least teach the other side. My personal belief? If you're just going to teach about evolution, BAN TEACHING ABOUT THAT SUBJECT! It just confuses kids and leaves them in a very confusing place with their faith.
Evolution is popular in science classes, because it is supported by the scientific method. It can undergo testing in order to prove or disprove it. However, by limiting education to evolution only, we are limiting students ability to see all sides and choose for themselves, based on culture, beliefs, values, etc. Creation or intelligent design (two separate concepts) fall short of meeting the requirements for the human-created scientific method. For one that has faith of any sort in things, not just the religious variety, there are things presently beyond the scope of "testing", which can produce usable scientific data. It is convenient for evolution supporters, as the scientific method fits it. However, as is or should be known science is not 100% reliable, even as you see that with things such as global warming, there is scientific support for both sides. Thus, one of reason and insight cannot follow a blinded path that relies solely on scientific evidence. My stance and support of creation relies on reasoning and thinking about the limited ability of "science" to produce reliable results that are presently out of humanities reach. We, as humans rely on having a complete understanding. Therefore, either creation and intelligent design should be added to curricula, or evolution teachings should be taken out of it.
Simply put, both are theories. Neither one can be proved or replicated yet both are widely accepted. Since they are both widely accepted both should be taught. Hard science cannot prove either one. We as humans were not present for either event (the big bang, or when God spoke the world into being), with that being said teach both and let the children decide what they want to believe.
Neither is a proven fact. Quite a bit of what is learned in science class at schools is later proven otherwise. Who knows what theory we will have for our creation some years down the road?
There is evidence to support both sides.
Despite the Bible's age it makes references to things we had not discovered in science until much later. Many of the statements made in the Bible are consistent with things we know today from science. This is evidence for the Bible, so the argument that the Bible has no scientific evidence is incorrect.
The Bible may be true, or it may not be true. The Evolution theory may be true, or it may not be true. None the less, both have evidence behind them, and deserve to be taught in schools. Not either one as fact though, both as theories. Let the students choose what they believe: not have it planted in their brain forcibly.
Public schools have the awesome responsibility of teaching citizens to think clearly. Whether teaching creationism or capitalism, they must understand not only its current iteration, but also their philosophical roots, their history, their role in culture, and also they must be brought to the place where they can evaluate the science behind they theories and those yet to be developed. The prevalence of HB-5 visas is an indictment of public education where our citizens receive diplomas that do not prepare them to contribute to the national well-being, the common good, or the lives of their families.
Before the Scopes Monkey Trial, Evolution was just as illegal to teach as Creationism is today. Secondly the American Civil Liberties Association deliberately hired Johnathon Scopes to teach Evolution to the the Tennessee school so that he would be arrested and was also told to plead guilty. Why? So that the ACLA would be able to press a case to legalize the teaching of evolution and discredit Creationism. Thirdly, Science has proven that spontaneous generation cannot exist. Yet in order for evolution to be true Life must come from lifelessness. If you are Not willing to accept God as the designer at least look at the facts and understand their is an intelligent design in life even if it may not be God.
The majority of the world believes in God. As students, they should be taught the cultural beliefs, the majority and minority beliefs, and the substance of the different theories. Not teaching both is choosing a side for the students without their knowledge. We can only hope parents have given each student a personal foundation. The schools should share the big picture of what traditions, customs, and cultures are a part of our society. We are a global community and our children should be aware of it all.
By not teaching creationism in schools it has really put a damper on children's view on god. I am a current student and I know that I do not believe in evolution but instead creationism. It is very upsetting that I am forced to learn and and take a test about things that I do not support. I am not asking that science teachers teach about creationism, but instead of taking evolution in the science room, another teacher can teach about creationism and we can take a test on that. I feel that I should not be forced to learn about something I do not believe in. We can learn about all the other religions but not Christianity? It makes no sense to me and I feel that this should be changed. We should be able to come up with a solution and compromise.
Although creationism is offensive to other religions or atheist; the teaching of evolution or not teaching creationism can actually be offensive to Christians. There is a double standard in the teaching of how our world came to be. During the teaching of evolution, students who believe in a higher power don't have to believe the subject but still need to listen and comprehend it; but why can't atheists listen to the teaching of creationism and not believe the subject either? Though it is only a "belief", it is an alternate solution to the making of our world. By teaching strictly evolution, it is also restricting the students minds to believe in what they want to and make the decision for themselves. For example, if the teacher teaches the lesson of evolution but then teach the idea of creationism, it is giving the student a choice to believe in whichever seems more believable to them.
If schools are going to teach evolution, they should also teach creationism. It is only fair. However, just like sex-ed, you (should) need a parental permission slip signed and returned before you can participate in the topic. I feel that if you are of a faith that supports creationism you should be able to be taught about it without having to pay for another class at your local parish. Another way to get over the challenge is to have students also be taught about the new belief in the Catholic Church of creationism AND evolution coexisting. I think that would be the best option.
Public schools should teach creationism because it will then not just choose one view over another. If schools taught both, then many Christians and other creationists would not be offended by the one sided view. Schools would also be allowing students to form their own opinion after they see both sides of how the world was made.
Why students are taught evolution is beyond me. Schools do not teach creation because it is offensive to those who do not believe it, or because "it interferes with the first amendment". The first amendment says that the government can not establish a national government or prohibit others from freely worshiping. If evolution is a "theory" then so should creationism be. The school is not forcing any one to believe in creation, simply that it's a possibility of how we got here.
If they can teach evolution, why cant they teach creationism? I do not believe in evolution so if I have to sit through classes about it, then others should sit through classes on creationism. It wont kill them to hear a little bit from a different side of the story. What about freedom of speech? I cannot even sing the word Jesus or God in my chorus songs. I do not agree with just teaching evolution. Its not fair.
I believe that kids need to know about God and the other explanations to how life is the way it is today. Also there should be a choice in whether you want to learn about facts or things that are based on ancient beliefs. Plus there are many people in the world that need to know that there is more than one way to life, two of which are believing in evolution or believing in creation.
Both of these beliefs are scientifically unprovable. No one was there to witness the origin of man occurring, therefore it is reasonable to present our children both sides of the argument. As far as I know, not one individual has seen evolution happen with their own eyes so its not more valid than any other theory of how we came to be. Id be inclined to conclude that peoples fear of teaching them side by side is due to fear of exploiting a faulty theory in evolution that holds no water.
Although it would seem as though a myth, creationism is nothing more but a theory like all the others. We, in biology and Earth life and space science classes, shove the evolution theory down our students throats when the truth is, scientists aren't 100 percent sure if it's true. We teach our children about Greek myths, we teach them Indian and Native American folk tales; but not once have I seen any teacher tell them the story of David and Goliath, or of Jonah and the Whale. If people argue all the time that these stories are myths what's the harm in learning from them? After all, it gives us a historical insight on old-world societies and especially in such foreign countries such as the Middle East, where we seem to have so much towards xenophobia from them. It may be taught in either history, science, or English classes and fit perfectly into the curriculum. You people who spend so much time battling a God you don't think exists, you don't realize the insanity of your actions. There is no way you can be ignorant if you listen to both sides; debaters always argue that Christians don't have an "open-mind" that they don't understand it's them who aren't listening. You should at least let your children listen to both sides and let them make up their own minds, or else we all know who the "single-minded" people are. It's terrifying the percentage of "no's" on this argument it makes me wonder what kind of world our children will be living in...
According to a Gallop Poll, 46% of Americans support creationism. If schools abandon the creationist theory, almost half of parental opinion is being ignored.
Both ideas are theory. Neither has been proven to be true. Even though many scientists support evolution, it has many flaws yet to be solved. The creation theory has other flaws. It is therefore unfair and, if I may, politically incorrect to promote one theory and not at least explain the other. Let both be taught, and let the parents of these children further educate them.
Evolution should not be taught as fact and Creation banned when evolution itself is only a theory! There are so many holes in Evolution and to base discovery on theory and speculation is poor science. They say that teaching Creation may offend other religious students, but what about the force fed Evolution offending the students as well? They say Evolution is unifying and scientific, but this complete rejection of any other theory of creation is not even logical.
Secular Humanism believes as strongly in Macro evolution as the staunchist Bible thumper. Even to the point of forbidding scientists/professors who disagree with their faith to publish, even on issues unrelated to either theory.
For those who doubt, look at both sides of this debate on here. Which side is advocating teaching both and letting children decide and which side is full of spittle lipped vitriol, trying to get the other side to shut up and sit down?
The question is phrased wrong. I know of no one who wants a literal 6 day creation taught in science class. Intelligent Design is not only a Christian course of study but also agnostics and atheists as well. It is also a scientific theory, not just on origins but general science, astronomy and all other facets as well. None of those explorations start with "In the beginning God..." because it is outside the sphere of Intelligent Design. As should be "In the beginning wasn't God..." The existence or non-existence of God is outside the purview of science. However, that does not preclude a Designer (one or many), including one evolutionist's theory of Panspermia, where aliens were the Designers. :-)
No, Creationism is something that only one religion of people believe. If you were going to teach Creationism you would also have to teach ALL OTHER BELIEFS!
Just teach them the scientific background to mankind and then as they get older, let them research other theories on their own and let them decide which one they believe in.
It makes the most sense to show both sides of the coin, just as in any debate. One of the most prudent actions that can be taken is to teach both philosophies to students and allow them to decide which they feel is right. To provide only one ideology is like being brought up in a conservative, evangelical, protestant family: your favorite color is green, has always been green, will always be green, and any other color is absolutely unacceptable. Such radical views are unsafe in a diversified world where it is common to see or come in contact with people who are bound to disagree. It is therefore safe to understand both sides of the argument and perhaps come to a comfortable agreement.
It is a commonly believed theory, that has been thought of since the beginning of mankind. In science you need to give every widely supported theory a seat at the table. It has nothing to do with separation of church, and state as it is only being taught not forced, just as evolution is taught not forced. No one has ever been converted by saying....."Many people believe that God or Gods created us".
Evolution and creationism are both historical sciences, not operational science. If one view or theory is taught then both should be taught and the children given the opportunity to come to their own conclusions. This would also teach the children to learn critical thinking. If only evolution is taught and not creationism, then it is forced information, or brainwashing.
Why is it when people even mention the idea of Creationism or ID being taught in schools, everyone freaks out? Creationism and ID has evidence, just as Evolution does. People just don't bother to look at it. Several good, well respected scientists believe in Creation today. According to Science Digest: "Scientists who utterly reject Evolution may be one of our fastest-growing controversial minorities… Many of the scientists supporting this position hold impressive credentials in science." If good, respected scientists see Creation on equal footing with Evolution, why shouldn't the schools at least give it a side-note?
The idea of giving kids an education is not only to teach them subjects such as math and science, but also to teach them to be able to think on their own. Teaching students only one side of the theory of how human life began is biased. You must give the students multiple points of view so that they can make their own judgment.
There is no known mechanism to create the DNA information needed to make any organ, system, or body plan. Mutation filtered through natural selection is a hypothesis, empirical data shows it never happens. Information theory, Genetics, fossils, geology, all empirically support creation. Evolution is fine if you like the sesame street version of science. However, if you want the how or why or any empirical data, evolution comes up empty.
Most people seem put off by the idea of both evolution and creationism being taught at school, but I don't see why. Both offer a very distinct view into how people came to be on Earth, and both have points that the other can't match or explain. Both are believed by large groups of people who think that their way is correct. I am currently a student learning about evolution and I am simply saying that the best way for students to learn about it is to offer both and allow students, such as myself, to pick one, the other, or both. Students can then decide for themselves whether they believe in evolution or creationism, and not have someone decide it for them.
The facts are, evolution is fact. Sorry guys and girls, but if you have not figured it out by now you're just being ignorant of the facts. It's not hard to prove and you can see the results yourself,there is really no excuse . Schools should stick to the facts and not feel pressured to lie to people.
Creationism, while it has many believers, is not proven one bit, and very hard to believe. I mean think about it...One person created everything there is!! Not likely. In science proof is everything. There is vast amounts of proof for evolution everywhere. In museums, universities, libraries, everywhere. Where is the religious proof? In the bible. That is the only proof religious people have. The bible has been proven so wrong in so many aspects, how can anyone even slightly believe it? I mean the earth is only about 6000 years old?!! Are you kidding me! That alone should make people question. One God created one man and one woman and said go forth and create? Assuming they weren't related, still after a generation or two no more kids would be born as they all would be related! We have all seen the effects of inbreeding in science. It ends genealogical lines pretty darn quick! All the great minds in the world throughout history have studied this topic, and they all seemed to have come back with the same answer. There is no scientific possibility of creationism. Occam's Razor states (simple version) "all things being equal, the simplest explanation is the right one". No did one God create everything in 7 days, did moses put millions of species on one boat for 40 days, did jesus walk on water and create bread for thousands from one loaf, did water turn to wine, etc, etc. OR, did evolution occur over billions of years! I'm going with the last one!! Until there is indisputable proof of God, Jesus, Moses and any other bible reference, I will go with all the proof of evolution.
There is more evidence for evolution than there is for gravity. If creationism is taught, we will be lying to children and subverting their educations. I mean, why not teach astrology alongside astronomy, and alchemy alongside chemistry, and the stork theory of childbirth?
Evolution is simply an opinion. Most people believe that humans came from god, along with everything else. If we aren't allowed to be racist and have to respect everybody's religions in school, than why would be bring up the subject of evolution? Plus what your teacher is teaching you should be fact, and something that most believe or trust is right. I'm sure most students do not believe that we evolved from monkeys. I do not think it should be taught, plus it does go against most religions, and can be offensive.
look stuff up before you say something is FACT WHEN ITS NOT. its so sad to see all you lost people in the world at lest we know were going to heaven not hell i love who i am and what i am and am happy to not to be one of you guys that vote no
The definition of a theory is a hypothesis (a prediction based on fact) supported by experiments to confirm the hypothesis. There isn't evidence to make creationism a scientific theory. Therefore it shouldn't be taught as a scientific fact. This doesn't mean that people cant believe in creationism if they want to.
Evolution has been proven, creationism has zero percent worth of evidence to prove it. So keep your Dam religion out of public schools!
Reading the "yes" arguments it's pretty obvious they have no idea how evolution even works, or even what 'theory' means in scientific context. Scientific illiterates should have no say in what goes on in science class.
Keep all religion out of public school lessons, which includes evolution, which is atheist. Keep that from brainwashing kids. Let the kids decide on their own what religion they want to have without the schools swaying their opinion! It is not the government's decision whether kids believe in creationism or evolution. By the way, there is proof that creationism exists... THE BIBLE!
Hey, if we're going to teach debunked theories, why not do other explanations for how the Earth got here? Like the Hindu, Sikh, or Greek myths? Why not the Egyptian myth while we're at it? Lol, there are some things we can't let children chose for themselves b/c we're assuming that they'll act in a reasonable manner even though we know their (by their I mean our, because I am a "child") brains are not fully developed.We do not need children learning false information throughout their lives. What they do need are proven facts, backed up by what's literally a mountain of evidence. And to those wondering, evolution CAN be experimented. Just look it up on the internet or any biology textbook. It's not that hard.
The curriculum of science classes should be decided by scientists. Since there is no real debate about evolution among scientists, it has ceased to be "just one alternative". It is no longer a hypothesis but a scientific theory, with as much evidence as the Theory of Gravity. US schools risk falling behind the rest of the developed world if they continue to teach creationism.
Evolution is a scientific fact. Creationism is a religious stance from christians - it does NOT belong in schools funded by the government. That's what private schools are for, sadly.
Creationism has no scientific foundation to it whatsoever. It is found in a book which a group of people choose to believe, with absolutely zero historical or biological evidence to support it. Creationism is a far fetched belief routed in religion. Evolution is a scientific theory backed by evidence and experiment.
The large amount of supporting scientific evidence for evolution warrants it being taught in a science classroom. There is not enough scientific backing for creationism. Creationism can be taught in a social studies class where the other creation myths are taught. This would probably have a negative affect on creationism for those who still consider it a valid idea.
If you conclude the world was created by a deity then what more is there to add onto the damn argument? GOD DID IT THE END! Go to a Church, Mosque, Temple and learn about whatever creationism you want to. School is meant for reality. not some fairy tale.. Have fun
Creationism is not science! Creationism is only based on faith and the faith of Fundamentalists that is it there's science to it whatsoever! On the other hand we have Evolution by Natural Selection. Evolution is a fact now, scientists are only discussing specific species on who cam first and who's ancestor is that. Evolution has withstand the test and time and there is mountains of evidence in the Fossil Records and the study of Genetics have shown that we are all descendants of a common ancestor! Creationism should not and will not be taught in public schoosl!
Religion is not fact. It provides no evidence for it self and instead yells at us like a three year old to believe in it or else. It is not science, it is a pseudoscience. Like alchemy is to chemistry. It isn't History either. Just because a few events line up correctly in the bible, doesn't mean the rest of the bible is true. Keep the facts in school and keep your religious BS in your own darn church. If you really want to teach creationism in the class room, we get to teach science in the churches.
Creationism is not science. It is not a scientific theory, let alone a hypothesis. You can't test a deity, just like you can't test fairies or other mystical creatures. Creation mythology is already taught in mythology class. It's like asking should World History be taught in Math class?
To say that it is biased to teach evolution alone would be like saying it is biased to teach only that the Earth is round without also teaching the alternate theory that it is flat. Creationism is not even a valid theory, let alone a fact.
Evolution has been proved on scientific fact and is supported by an abundance of proof while creationism is based on faith alone. Creationism has failed to withstand the test of time and need to get out of the way in order for progression and rationalism to takeover. Evolution has a lot of supporting facts including: radioactive decay dating, fossil records, similarities in genetic code among multiple species, geological formation, etc. the list is truly endless. Creationism, although a belief held by billions throughout thousands of years, has lost it's credibility as something that should be enforced into the educational system. I, personally, respect the belief and someone's right to hold it, however, I have to disagree with it.
There are people who claim the we are here due to either Evolution or Creationism, so that it's a 50-50 equal chance that one is right. Creationism is not equal to Evolution. Evolution is based on evidence, while creationism is based on faith. Schools should not teach anything that is based on faith. Faith is just an excuse to believe something without evidence.
Creationism isn't proven and it isn't science. Teach children actual science and let them go home and get brain-washed by their parents with creationism and religion. Keep science at school and make believe at church where it belongs. Teaching children creationism at school as if it's absolute truth will give them much less religious freedom.
No matter how many people believe something, or how much they want it to be true, it does not change the fact of evolution. It's as much a 'theory' as gravity is. Examine all creation myths in a literature/religious setting, but it doesn't deserve to be on the same platform as real science.
if you are going to teach about myth then they should teach about every single religion out there and then nobody would actually learn anything but a bunch of fairy tales instead of something important.
The whole "some people say this" argument that you jesus freaks keep spitting out as a way to present it is stupid. If you do that than you have to say that in everything you teach:
When you teach about the moon landing are you gonna say some people say that it didn't happen and we should respect that?
When you teach about JFK are you gonna say some people say that there was another shooter at the grassy knoll?
When you teach about the post war period, are you gonna mention aliens at roswell?
No, you're not because all those things are stupid, but not nearly as stupiid as thinking that human beings and dinosaurs walked on the earth at the same time, or that everyone on earth is descended from two people who had two sons.
Stop making our country look stupid, other countries are laughing of us and it's your fault. We are not all stupid but people like you who think that creationism is a valid idea are giving us a bad reputation. Believe what ever you wanna believe but don't teach your kids that crap, you're doing them a disservice. And I hope they grow up and never speak to you again, leaving you to die alone and sad waiting to go to heaven and then not going because it doesn't exist.
A science classroom should teach science and only science. Evolution has loads of support behind it whereas the only "proof" for creationism comes from a likely false book written centuries ago with no scientific backing whatsoever. If I ever went to a school where a teacher tried to teach creationism I would think they were an idiot and would immediately lose all respect for them.
Creationism is a hoax! Hoax! There are NO scientific evidence associated on how Earth was made based on bible so why bother lying to the students who are supposed to learn the evidenced facts? If students want to learn about creationism, they can take a religion classes, private classes, church classes, tutorials, and so many other options. Creationism and Evolutionism are two COMPLETELY opposite definitions and except that only one of them has an evidence to support while other was just like a "drawn up story" for bible.
If you want to hear about specific religious beliefs, then just head on down to church every Sunday where that is acceptable. If you want to learn something based on evidence that is currently developing and currently has more empirical proof than the alternative, then go to school. It'll make you a smarter person.
I cannot believe what you people are saying here. Perhaps I'll just go down the "Yes" column and just address some of your misguided views (and, as any peer-reviewed scientific journal or honest assessment of other country's political and social climates will confirm that they are, indeed, misguided).
Other countries (countries like the UK or Germany) do make fun of us because of our religion. Watch when notable British scientists or authors come on television shows like "Real Time With Bill Maher". We were founded as a secular nation, and here, we're the most ludicrously religious country outside of the Middle East. I mean, yeah, other countries are religious, too. Britain is mostly Protestant, yeah, but people in Britain don't question scientific fact like evolution. Other countries don't deny objective reality to satisfy their religion. That's why they laugh at us. We're delusional.
Creationism has no more to do with our history than Little Red Riding Hood. We're closed-minded, but we're closed-minded in the opposite sense than you seem to think. We're 80% Christian, and the ignorance is astounding. Ten percent of the country is Atheist, and because we insist that religion not be endorsed by the government or any of its institutions, you claim that America is being closed-minded. You're fucking ridiculous, you know that?
Evolution is considered "belief" just like creationism? I mean, you cannot be this fucking stupid. Read a goddamn book. I feel insulted just having to explain this to you: yes, evolution is a theory. Evolution is a SCIENTIFIC THEORY. Do you know what else is a SCIENTIFIC THEORY? THAT THE EARTH IS ROUND AND ORBITS THE SUN. EVOLUTION IS A FACT, FACTS IN SCIENCE BEING DENOTED BY THE TERM "THEORY." As for the bullying... To be completely fair, there are terribly strong negative correlations between level of education and religiousness; that is, the more educated you are, the less likely you are to be religious. They have a point.
People are offended by the teaching of creationism in public schools because that's government mandated religion. The first amendment guarantees me, as a student in a public school, freedom from religious influence and indoctrination.
If you can supply valid proof, then yes. Otherwise you will have to present every religion's story. There's a separation of church and state in the united states for a reason.
Evolution is a fact. There is loads of evidence for it. I respect other people's beliefs; the only problem is that if you teach the Christian story of creation, you need to also teach all the other stories of origin or else it is discriminatory. For example, a kid who is Hindu needs to listen to the story of creation of the Christians more so than the one of his own religion. But the only rational explanation for the origin of species is evolution. It is the most likely theory.
There is evidence of evolution. There is absolutely no evidence of creationism. It is only a theory which is likely incorrect and, so far, has not been proven or confirmed. Plus, religions that don't believe in that theory could potentially be offended. Therefore, it shouldn't be taught in public schools.
The theory of evolution is a model filled with facts, observations, and tested hypothesis that explains a specific phenomena. Things such as common ancestry are proven by the nested hierarchy corroborated by both genetics and the fossil record. Creationism is an unfalsifiable hypothesis with absolutely not supporting evidence.
It would be a horrible thing to teach an unsupported religious view in a science class alongside one of the most or the most supported(with evidence) theory in science.
There is no evidence for creationism. Creationism isn't even a theory. The science classroom is a place for actual science and evidence, not for pseudoscience and tales. If parents want their kids to learn about creationism, then they should teach them at home or take them to a church. It has no place in the schools.
Creationism is not science, so why should it be in the science classrooms? Creationism cannot be tested and can never be proven. Evolution is tested and has been proven and is a great theory. (A theory means that it is a collection of ideas that are perceived as correct not hypothesis, please get it right) Teaching creationism in science would be like teaching Math during English class. All you'll do is confuse kids what they are learning and set them up for failure. Creationism should be taught as it is important to history, but as for science, I am waiting for the proof.
The fossil record, DNA records and all other evidence supports evolution. On the flip-side the only evidence of creation is a thousands year old myth from a people who were largely intolerant, without the scientific method and incapable of understanding basic concepts like germ theory or zero. Therefore it would be detrimental to the formation of the minds of children if we were to teach the myth of any peoples; be they Buddhas, Hindus, Abrahamic or any other sect.
If this were a religion class or even a philosophy class it would be a different matter. Of course spiritual ideas should be taught in order to create a cultured person. It is different however, to say that creationism is science. Science is all about logic and reactions. There is no logical way that a reactant (God) could produce a reaction (everything) on top of that we can carbon date bones and even the oldest "human" bones don't come within centuries of dinosaurs, it just didn't happen
A scientific theory summarizes a hypothesis or group of hypotheses that have been supported with repeated testing. If enough evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, it moves to the next step—known as a theory—in the scientific method and becomes accepted as a valid explanation of a phenomenon.
When used in non-scientific context, the word “theory” implies that something is unproven or speculative. As used in science, however, a theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation, and reasoning, especially one that has been tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena.
Any scientific theory must be based on a careful and rational examination of the facts. In the scientific method, there is a clear distinction between facts, which can be observed and/or measured, and theories, which are scientists’ explanations and interpretations of the facts. Scientists can have various interpretations of the outcomes of experiments and observations, but the facts, which are the cornerstone of the scientific method, do not change.
A Theory is the most distinguished nomenclature that a scientific idea can reach. Things fall to the earth...gravity is a theory. Space and time are not absolutes and gravity is not simply a force applied to an object or mass...Einsteins Theory of Relativity. All life on earth has a common ancestor...Theory of Evolution and Natural Selection.
Please, now argue how the theory of gravity is just a theory, and we should give equal time to the fact that God is actually pulling objects down with his invisible hand. Sound silly? Well, your asking for the same thing.
Creationism is religion, religion is not science. There is absolutely zero evidence of any sort of "intelligent design". We know that we have evolved over millions of years, and we know this from fossil evidence. Evolution is a theory which does not mean merely speculation, but rather an abundance of facts and consistent results. Creationism on the other hand is not based on any fact whatsoever. In other words creationism is not a theory, it's a guess. There is no debate between evolution and creationism, those whom are proponents of creationism merely have not had exposure to the scientific evidence for evolution.
Creationism has no evidence to back itself up. Evolution is a proven process. The education systems that would incorporate creationism into their courses would be viewed as almost a joke. Why teach our children something that simply isn't real? The bible is merely a book written several millenniums ago by a dictator(s) as a source of power, setting guidelines for all people to follow and obey. God is not real, neither is the devil nor anything supernatural/magic.
As Ricky Gervais aptly said, "Science doesn’t concern itself with the non-existence of something. The periodic table of imaginary things would be too big for a classroom- infinitely big in fact, and rather pointless. It’s not trying to prove the non-existence of anything supernatural. All it knows is there is no scientific proof of anything supernatural so far. When someone presents a jar of God it will test it. If it finds some evidence of “godness” it will follow the evidence till it knows everything it can."
Creationism has nothing to do with science. It doesn't belong in a science class.
Then religion should be left out of schools. Because that really is what creation theory is at this point, a religious myth. Sure, it could be true, but on the other hand, if you're going to teach a science class, you damn well better teach things that are scientifically testable, supportable, falsifiable, and all of those other -able's that go along with the scientific method.
Creationism is not a science. It is a belief shared by many that mankind came about in a manner that excludes evolution. Since it is not a science, it has no place in a science class in public schools, or any other school for that matter. Creationism could however be taught in public schools, in a separate class, which would cover all religions.
Its not like your kids arent going to learn about creationism in sunday school. Teaching it in school is forcing your beliefs on others, and it can be extremely offensive to people who are not christian. All kinds of wars have been started over things like this throughout history, and no good will come of it if we start now.
Creationism has nothing to do with science. The idea that some magic person just popped in and pooped out a person makes no sense. Creationism should be taught in your religious school, not your public school. If you give children conflicting ideas, they will end up being more confused than taught in the end.
Creationism is a myth invented by the ancient Hebrews almost 4000 years ago. Evolution is a real theory with tons of evidence supporting it. I have no idea why ancient myths are even still relevant when we have proven theories instead. Christian fundamentalists need to stop taking the Bible so seriously; it is nothing but an outdated book of Christian fables.
And the Constitution forbids the endorsement and indoctrination of religious studies in state run schools. Creationist like to say that they have evidence backing them up. Yet the only evidence are either conspiracies or outliers. Schools teach observations and critical thinking, which indisputably lead to evolution as the most likely answer.
Creationism is the Christian mythology of how the universe/world was created. Public schools are state run and state funded. The First Amendment does not allow the state government to establishment or preferences of any religious view over another. Each religion has differing creation myths. To make it mandatory to teach Abrahamic Monotheistic Creationism in any government funded school over any other form of creation is in direct violation of the First Amendment of the United States constitution. Science is based on questioning, theorizing, testing, and observation. Creation does not fall into this category of education. However, this does not prohibit the State from providing an optional, elective, non-required course on creation, with the caveat that all variants of creation must be surveyed and exposed and "taught" to the students equally.
Creationism should not be taught in science classes not only because science is the opposite of religion, Just as Social Studies should not be taught in Gym Class. Aside from that, I don't think that students would enjoy learning Creationism in science class, at least when I was going through Elementary School the science Labs and experiments we did were my favourite part, but if we taught Creationism there would be no chance to to a lab or experiment, in fact nothing could be demonstrated all we could do is read from a book and use our "Faith" to support it rather than our mind to question it, experience it for ourselves and perceive it to be true.
The debate of evolution vs. Creationism will go on for some time. Where it should stop, however, is in the public schools. Classrooms should not have to bend to the will of any religion. Some students will be Christian, some will be Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, or of no religion. Why should they be taught a theory born out of the book of Genesis?
Anything loosely associated with religion should not be taught in standard public schools systems. Definitely not alongside science. Not at all. Science is an exact science. Our existence and tangibility can be measured and proven. Creationism is an important part of our history and should not be ignored; but too closely relates to religion which has no place in schools.
There is already a place people that believe in nonsense to go to "learn" about magic and that place is church. Children go to school so they can be taught real things. It would just be confusing to most kids to have a teacher explain evolution then follow up with "...or everything could have just magically popped into existence, you choose." We already have enough unintelligent people in this country and that won't help matters.
Teaching kids that some bronze-age sheep herders somehow had more knowledge of the physical world than we have now is just plain wrong. Also, it tells kids what to believe rather than how to think. I live in a state that has not had this come up yet but it may some day. Just terrible and sad that this discussion is happening in the year 2012.
How dare you insult Mr.Darwin? The school should teach only the facts!I mean come on! Is religion really useful? Yet,evolution theory is very useful in life. Many people had various interest in it.That"s why 72% of the people voted yes!Any religion with gods or worshipers are just fantasy phony baloney boring cheap traditions.If a god exists, why does he cause crimes and other disasters?
Public schools are exactly what they sound like, public. Someone's personal view of God should not be taught in school to children. If their parents wish for that then they should take them to Sunday school where that is all they teach. Children should not be influenced religiously by school, unless it is parochial.
Should we follow the Taoists who believe in an expansion from singularity to duality to trinity? Do we teach the Australian aboriginal dreamtime myth in which all the creatures and places where created by mystical animals and spirits from the stars? How about the Raelian concept that we were genetically engineered by aliens from another star system? Or the American Indian spirit myths? Or how about the Scientologists who believe we are the spirits that were trapped by an alien race after a nuclear bomb was set off inside a volcano?
Surely our children deserve to hear about all of these ideas and then choose for themselves! Or, we go with just the facts we have at hand that clearly show that man evolved from lesser creatures and leave spiritualism in the churches where it belongs.
School is for learning facts, not fiction. School isn't showing you different things that you might choose to be correct. It's for learning, not choosing what you want to believe. Evolution is a scientific theory backed with evidence, and creationism has no evidence whatsoever. You should have to prove things before teaching them to children.
creationism is insane and totally wrong, evolution is proven beyond doubt
religion has no proof at all
it is counter intuitive to every branch of science and critical thinking
creationism is just people trying to fit the world to the bible
because they are obsessed with the bible and will tell any lies to preserve their delusion
Public schools should not teach Creationism because it would create even more arguments. It's better to just keep Creationism inside the Church and away from public schools. Plus, many people do not go to Church these days and it's their right to decide whether or not they want to be religious.
Just because you label something a theory, say its possible without any real reason does not make it credible. What is the point of education if we are going to teach fairy tales as theory. Next we will teach "Through the Looking Glass" in a class on the physics of alternate dimensions in string theory?
Bible Study should be optional. I don't, personally, believe creationism OR evolution should be taught in any science class. Both are theories, and while the question will always remain as to which one has more proof (evolution), so neither should be instructed. Science is based off of fact, and while I personally believe evolution is basically fact, and theories are not completely fact, hence the term "theory." Therefore, it should not be taught in public schools.
There is absolutely no evidence supporting the creation of the world or its inhabitants. The only thing that has led us, as the human race, to believe such a thing is a story. A story that has been changed many, many, MANY times since it was first produced.
No one has ever witnessed or proven creationism. Evolution can be observed, studied and proven.
The only proof for creationism lies in the bible, which is in no way a credible source. Information based on mysticism and not fact has no place in a child's mind
People are entitled to there own opinions not there own facts. Allowing creationism in a classroom when it's not being taught as mythology is dishonest and a disservice to our youth.
A theory is an "analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one anothe?" According to merriam-webster dictionary. Creationism and their ideas are beliefs no amount of belief will make an idea fact. Creationism should not be taught in school for I am an American and it would be unconstitutional to teach a religious belief in a government funded school. I do believe that, if asked, teachers should be allowed to answer questions about religious ideas of intelligent design or creationism.
"if you can force evolution on us, we should be able to force creationism on you" is why there should be more "no" votes....
Make up your mind people. Evolution is already PARTIALLY taught in school, from my experience. Either teach your kids the truth, or force them to believe in some chauvinistic fairy tale. Evolution is SCIENCE, religion isn't.
Creationism is NOT a theory, it's a story from some book that's filled with other fairy tales, fantasy stories, and full of contradictions. Evolution is a scientific theory which has been proven through many experiments and research to be true, that's why its a THEORY, not a hypothesis. Science is what we know, religion is what ignorants use to explain what we don't know
When support for creationism can be found using the scientific method (good luck), then it can be taught alongside other well-substantiated theories.
If I look at the sky, and noticee that it's blue, it's blue. No matter how much you hate blue, wishing that it was red doesn't make it any less blue.
we should not teach children to not believe in science
This is a question of what is correct and incorrect.
You cannot debate facts. Only opinions.
And the school is a place for facts.
So if you honestly want to force your kid into a fantasy world where bearded men zap sheep and flowers and such into existence, homeschool them. And if you do, props to you for abusing the mind of a perfectly healthy child and filling it with garbage.
Most people may prefer to go a certain way in their life wishing not to be forced to learn something they do not believe in. It'd be best to let that area split into a two-way choice. No one has to be forced into something they don't believe. Let everyone go the way they want.
Science classes teach science, if you argue that creationism is a valid argument to the theory of evolution then you clearly don't understand evolution. If people want to learn about creationism, go to a church or a religion class, not a class that teaches science with facts, evidence, and credible theories.
That's right 99% of you have not! But yet we all know it existents. I read through a lot of these comments and I wanted to say, you guys are extremely rude with what you are saying. If you are against creationism I understand that, you don't however have to "yell" and "scream" about only saying your right and not having any evidence to back it up. Just because you can't see something, does not make it not real. How many of you have seen a person evolve from a single cell organism? No one? Huh... isn't that what you guys are basing evolution off of? Yet no one has seen this happen.... interesting.... also can someone explain to me that if we all came from a single celled organism how we are so perfect? Did you know that if the heart was moved over just a centimeter, we wouldn't be able to live? There are so many riddles like that having to do with the human body as well as the geographic of the Earth. Also their are geographic evidence supporting that the world is NOT billions of years old, but yet thousands of years old. See what I just did there, i supported my opinion with facts instead of "yelling" I am right and you are wrong so shut up. Whenever any scientist answers these quesitons with evidence and not a THEORY I will gladly take them into consideration. So next you decide to write on a website like this... try not to sound like such an idiot and research your information first. Please and Thank you!
Creationism says that god created man (among other creatures) about 10,000 years ago. This is completely false and can be proven so. Through a PROVEN scientific process called carbon 14 dating, we have found that some of the fossils of early man and other animals have existed far before 10,000 years ago. Creationists, if you want to argue carbon 14 dating than you can, but i doubt that you will get very far.
You simply should not be allowed to teach something that has long been proven false as a fact. Religion was used in the past to explain what we had not known, by shoving shoving gods or magic into the gaps in the current knowledge. However if we wish to progress as a race and to further advance our knowledge of the universe then we must let go of the supernatural claims that are shoved into the gaps of knowledge. Also the existence of Evolution has proven to be a fact but the process of it still remains a theory.
All of you people who are saying that creationism is false, unless you are a Hindu, you are false. Yes, humans evolved from other organisms, but where the heck did THEY come from? Some facts from creationism might not be true, such as Adam and Eve. But living creatures did not just appear on the earth and evolve. Something had to have made it. I am not saying creationism should be taught, but neither should evolution because both of them have a lot of false facts.
In Science you do not teach religion, you teach SCIENCE, whatever your beliefs are.
As a student, I don't want a teacher to shove their beliefs down my throat, just teach me the syllabus.
"Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one and it's fine to be proud of it, but please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around... And PLEASE don't try to shove it down MY throat."
I like to consider myself fairly religious. I don't necessarily align myself with a particular religion, but I am spiritual.
The very simple answer to this debate is that religion is not science, and therefore it does not belong in a science class.
Seriously, just ignore every comment that just needlessly trashes on religion and religious beliefs and focus on this one point. Religion and science are both views on the universe around us, but that doesn't matter right now. People who voted yes, you aren't asking for both theories to be taught in a general "universe around us" class, you're asking for both theories to be taught in a science class where religion isn't necessarily relevant. I feel like I'm repeating myself but it's important to understand this.
People who voted yes: Propose that every child take a theological studies class if you really do care about broadening their horizons. That would just solve everything. Really.
Science class just needs to be left alone.
Creationism ignores the scientific process. It is a sneaky and dishonorable way to allow and force religion on our youth. The scientific process requires evidence to become part of academic knowledge. Intelligent design claims that life was designed by some form of intelligence.
The very foundation of creationism requires proof of an intelligent designer. Demonstrable and empirical evidence. Seeing that one cannot prove nor disprove the existence of any god or deities, this disqualifies creationism as anything remotely scientific.
Creationism lays this foundation.
How would you religious folks feel if halfway through a priest's sermon a well informed scientist came up to the podium and proceeded to go off on a mad tangent that had nothing to do with religion or spirituality? You'd be wondering what the hell this guy is doing taking up your valuable time! This science stuff has nothing to do with this really old book that everyone loves for some reason.
In a country that depends so much on machines and technology in general, so few of you Americans are now getting real access to a proper science class. If this goes on for much longer, your country will end up in deeper water than it's already wading in.
Unless you are going to also teach the masses (no pun intended) that the flying spaghetti monster is the ultimate being and that it should be revailed above all other gods i will not under any circumstances accept this, not to mention what all of the above non believers have said
Creationism is a matter of religion. It should come under religious studies education along with Hinduism and their version of creationism. Evolution is science and should come under the headings of biology, chemistry and physics. They are both distinctly different subjects and should be kept within their own educational boundaries. We don't treat the Greek and the Roman theories of creation as science but put it rightly into its historical context as myth.
I think it would be interesting for children to be taught about the belief structures of many peoples from around the world. Set aside a class for that. Not to brain wash but to educate and help them learn about the world they live in and the many types of people that inhabit it.
I DO NOT think it should ever be taught in a science class room especially not alongside evolution as though "It's either this or that, pick one". It would be ridiculous. The scientific method has been used to create one and not the other.
Some of these opposing comments are really making me mad. I'll keep it simple here: why should we teach something that doesn't have a shred of evidence? Creationism is definitely not a science. It has no proof and has no place in a SCIENCE class.
Evolution as a whole is still technically a theory, but its subtopics (natural selection and speciation) have been tested and proven again and again in theory and in experiments. There is no question as to whether or not it's true. It's accepted as fact throughout the scientific community, it's just stubborn theists who oppose it.
I wouldn't mind if creationism was taught in a separate religion studies class, but definitely not as fact in a science class.
There is no evidence for creationism. 100% of all evidence agrees with evolution. The blowhole of a whale, dolphin or purpose starts in the center of the face of the embryo, just as in all land mammals. It then moves up the face and onto the back as the nose becomes a blowhole. Their embryos also start with hind limbs that eventually disappear in most whales, dolphins, etc. However, sometimes hind limbs are present in born animals, and sometimes even limbs that look like legs. All cetaceans have hind limb bones in their skeletons. These facts are best explained by a common ancestor of all cetaceans with land mammals. There is so much more evidence!
Religion: a set of beliefs, oftentimes relative to a person's geography and based on traditions (e.G., handed down through generations and believed due to belongingness within a culture or family.) Evolution may not have a strong evidential basis (some will contend); however, the education system is providing an overview of a credible scientific theory, which is a responsibility the public school system is charged with. If parents want their children to receive a religious lecture, this needs to occur at a religious institution, not in a public school system where, constitutionally, religion should be absent.
Evolution is a single scientific subject which can be consistently taught to students. It has essentially one viewpoint. Meanwhile, because there are so many religions out there, it would be impossible to effectively teach creationism from the perspective of every religion. Teaching about the religions themselves and their beliefs is fine. Teaching about the origins of existence from religious views is too vast and therefore impossible to do so without having an imbalance in taught material.
Religious belief is theology or mythology. Biology relies on scientific/objective evidence to support a theory. Religion is based on personal belief and faith. The two should not be held side by side in an academic setting. Parents who want to teach Genesis as literal should feel free to do so with their children, but a public school is not the place for it.
It doesn't make sense to teach creationism in a science classroom, true or not it's a religious matter. I believe it could be taught in a religious education class but it's part of a different philosophy to science. Science is based on measurable, repeatable studies and experiments (a material nature) while creationism is based off the word of God according to Genesis (an immaterial nature, as these were events that cannot be measured unfortunately), by all means teach both, but not in the same class. I would like to point out I am Christian and though I don't take a literal interpretation of Genesis my girlfriend does and I respect her views on that.
Creationism has no place is education. The Theory of Evolution is backed by facts and observable data. Theory is a misunderstood word when used in science context, but thats another story. Evolution has never been dis-proven, and likely will not any time soon. If we teach creationism; then we must teach all religions, and educate our children of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (Praise his noodley appendage)
The story of Creation is a ludicrous claim made up when we had a limited understanding of the world, now that we have progressed with our knowledge of the universe, we need to teach students the theory that is regarded by almost all the scientific community as true. Get out of the Stone Age age and do what's best for students!
Creationism is inspired by science, but motivated by religion.
It is a philosophy that tries to bridge the gap between the two.
Nothing wrong with that.
But that doesn't make it a science. Science is the result of finding a hypothesis to be tested true in repeatable circumstances. Religion is not. Ergo sum = Creationism, not being scientific, should stay OUT of science class.
America is losing the fight to be the best nation in the world. Its sad but true. I want more then anything for us to rise to the top again. but we CAN NOT get there by teaching children non-science. It is proven that statistically states that teach kids creationism next to evolution have lower SAT scores and do worse in outside of state colleges.
The people saying yes have mostly likely never read anything about evolution froma truthful source. Creationism is a religious thing, evolution is a science thing. so if were going to teach something in a SCIENCE class shouldnt it be science. My country is sooooooooooooooo STUPID.
There are no scientifically valid, peer-reviewed, studies that support a theory of creation.
This is simple all there is to it. Regardless of what you believe, creationism and its recent rebranding as intelligent design do not fit the definition of science. They are in no way testable hypotheses and fall back on the "god of the gaps" argument. Science works by figuring out the facts and then drawing conclusions based on them, whereas ID is a predetermined conclusion that its supporters are shuffling to find evidence to support, which is a mockery of the scientific method.
Keep your religions our of our classrooms. You have a place to teach fairy tales its called church. Schools are for teaching FACTS that are PROVEN regardless if you believe it or not.
Maybe "creationist" should get some real facts before we consider it as something teachable.
Screw creationism, we might as well teach kids the stork theory of how people are born if we teach evolution
The fact that both are theories and both explain the same things does not give them equal footing. A child should not be taught by adults (whom they automatically believe and respect - a byproduct of natural selection I am sure) a "theory" that has no empirical evidence. I don't think I need to explain which of the two lacks empirical evidence.
It is the job of parents to brainwash their children with ideas that have no factual basis, not the schools funded by the government to teach children facts.
To take a note from Neil deGrasse Tyson, regardless of if you believe it or not, science is still true. It's nothing more than observations of nature. We don't allow crack pot theories to be taught in schools such as Xenu bringing millions of people to Earth. There is no observable evidence of God thus God is not science. School is reserved for the transmission of facts and subsequent cognitive osmosis of the learners of those facts.
religion has no place in classroom unless its theology course.
There is ZERO proof of creationism, just an old book. There are transitional skeletons that show the change from apes to humans. There's all the proof in the world for evolution.
I have no problem with teaching about religions of all types in a school setting, but not mingled with science classes. They are two completely different fields, and mixing religious agenda into actual science will only result in bad, ineffectual science.
If schools want to teach creationism as part of a study of world religions, fine. However, it is not appropriate in the slightest to teach it alongside evolution as part of a "science" education.
It is not a public school's job to teach religious material that has little to no scientific proof supporting it. It is against the 1st amendment.
Religions are an archaic remain of an age when people can use the teaching of values that weren't possibly learn anywhere else than in church. As long at they oppose themselves to scientific process of though it can no longer be teach in school where only proven facts belong.
Accepting creationism in school will eventually lead to people trying to teach kids that the earth is probably flat ...
Even the most devout believer in creationism would not want it taught in a science class if he or she simply understood what science is.
There is no evidence or experiment to run that could disprove creationism in the eyes of a religious believer. There is no basis in reality. It is not scientific.
If you want your children to learn creationism, teach them about it yourself or have them go to a religious class to learn it.
Don't try to shove non-science into science class.
It isnt falsifiable, isnt referenced in any peer reviewed journal, has no supporting evidence, and is obviously a religious mythology. Why would that be taught in a science class?
If we gave way to creationism, then we'd have to give time to give the Scientology theory of how man came to be, the Muslim theory (sorry, that's pretty much creationism), the Hindu Cosmology theory (we are a melting pot folks), the Japanese and Chinese theories (multiple gods and their various ways of becoming the Earth and it's people)... I could go on, but why? None of them are based on anything that people have touched, outside evolution.
Science is a methodology defined by the discovery and utilization of evidence to support an understanding of the natural world in which we live. Creationism is little more than a story used by those ignorant or opposed to the facts as they exist. There is no evidence supporting creationism, and nothing to be learned by the application thereof. Even if we were to assume that creationism had some merit from any biblical sense it does not stand in opposition to evolution, rather it is an easy route to avoid the more difficult topics of abiogenesis and the origin of matter. To take the point further, the concept of creation as derived from the abrahamic religions fails to address some very important points. The creation story narrowly describes the beginning of existence and the origin of the Jewish people. After the 7 days described in the first few verses it tells the story of how the first Jewish couple fell short of the expectations held by their creator god. After being cursed by this god one of their children commits an heinous act and is exiled, during this exile he encounters peoples that have seemingly existed for some time separated from the influence of the god described within the preceding story. Using this very basic overview of the information given in the creation story it becomes obvious that the story does not in fact even attempt to describe the origin of the human race, and in addition the omitted information pertaining to the development of the non jewish peoples causes us to wonder how the timetable of the 7 "day" creation story was even intended to be perceived. Science describes how humanity developed, physics explains how the universe may have come to exist, creationism poorly attempts to show how a certain minority of people are superior to the rest of humanity and therefore has no place in the science classroom, based neither on its substance not on its form.
Not only should we not teach it in public schools, but it is not legal to teach religion in public schools.
And don't call it a theory, it's a hypothesis at best, there are zero facts and zero intelligent people supporting it.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...." This is the first part of the first amendment to the united states constitution it says get your religion out of my government and I'll get my government out of your religion. These are public schools, they cannot teach religious things. If you want to stupify your kid, teach them that at home or at church, don't make my kids have to listen to someone of inferior intelligence say ignorant things in front of them.
Evolution has no true or real theory what so ever. It should definitly NOT be teached in Science! Schools teaches facts not theorys!
Science is an obvious subject that should be taught in schools, and there is no science to support creationism. Regardless of whether you believe evolution is a proven fact, no one can deny that it is not supported by science. If there are truly "holes" in evolution then I have no issue with those holes being analyzed. However, logic is another concept that should be taught in schools, and here is some simple logic: Holes in evolution =/= creationism.
There is absolutely no proof of creationism, but there is proof for evolution. Besides, creationism is a religious doctrine, and should be kept in the house of worship, and not with the accepted scientific theory and law. We know that evolution happens, and we should teach our children facts, not speculation. (PS: evolution does not explain the origin of life, just how life progresses)
Let us ask: Is there any evidence for creationism aside from faith? Is creationism a hypothesis that has been tested, peer-reviewed, etc? Or is it purely a matter of faith? I believe it to be the latter. Contrast this with the vast amount of anthropological evidence for evolution, which is provided as a foil for creationism. If creationism is 'taught' at all in schools, it should be introduced in this manner: as a baseless matter of faith which some religions believe in; not as a matter of science.
There is a lot of concrete evidence that evolution is occurring. Yes, you can call the bible evidence, but that is only one piece of evidence, and it is solely based on belief.
America is not a Christian nation, contrary to popular belief. Some of the founding fathers may have been Christians, but they were first and foremost secularists. If we teach the Christian creation story, should we not also teach the Hindu one or the Buddhist one?
Creationism is a religious tale, it is not science and hence should not be thought in science class, but in bible class.
No, science is not taught in Church. It is not a one way street here. If religion gets to have influence in the things that are taught in a public institution, then the public gets to say what happens to or in a religious institution.
Let's also consider which creation story would be "taught" if creationism is introduced to schools. It would most certainly be the Biblical account of creation, which A. goes against the Establishment clause and endorses a specific religious view and B. would deem those religious views held by students that aren't Christian (Muslim, Pagan, Buddhist, etc.)
If you want your child to learn creationism, teach it to them at home and let other kids get the quality education that they deserve.
We know tons about how evolution works, and even if we didn't, "We don't know how it works" still doesn't mean "It happened with magic."
Perhaps if you were to establish creationism as well as everything else, as being part of the foundation that lead to the development of evolution, in the context that they're explanations of origin, then sure, go ahead. Otherwise, your making claims you can't prove. As for "teach the controversy", then you should teach the "childbirth vs. The story?" Controversy as well.
"Don't preach in my school and I won't think in your church."
Kids should not be taught creationism in school at all let alone science classes. That's all opinion and our country is one of many religions, not all of which believe in creationism. If you want your kid to learn it teach it to them at home or take them to church, or even send them to a private school. But let them learn an idea based on legitimate facts not a book that was told over the course of 2000+ years where the church was inclined to exaggerate truth to convert people.
The problem with creationism is that it DISTORTS a lot of scientific facts just to prove that creationism did happen. Teaching creationism to students is equivalent to teaching erroneous data. Another problem encountered with creationism is that it always attacks the weaknesses of evolution but they never cite any strong evidence of creationism. If creationism is taught in schools as an alternative, I guess we should also teach holocaust denial, alchemy and astrology.
Science should stay in schools it would confuse children and possibly hurt people who dont believe in god. NOT ALL PEOPLE BELIEVE IN GOD there are many other religions and faiths so if we were to put one in school we would have to put them all in schools.
Creationism is not based at all on science. The only thing it's based on is an impossibly literal translation of a 3000 year old book of myths. Should we also teach the creation myths of other religions in science classes? How would fundamentalists feel about that? We are a religiously free society, not a theocracy. The Bible is only a holy book to some people, to others it's just a book. Only Evolution has a scientific basis, and it is well enough observed and understood to be considered factual. There is no scientific debate regarding the facts of evolution, the only debate is fabricated by people who want to impose their own religious agendas into mainstream thought.
I oppose teachers teaching creationism in public schools alongside evolution because creationism is a religious notion, and religion does not belong in our school system. Schools should teach facts and scientific theories, not religious theories. In addition, teaching only creationism alongside with evolution is a poor idea because it only encompasses Christian beliefs, and ignores all other religious ideas on the creation of man and the world.
Creationism, also referred to as creation science and intelligent design, stems from a literal interpretation of the Book of Genesis. However, even Pope John Paul II felt that evolution did not contradict church doctrine. Unlike evolution, creationism is neither explanatory nor predictive, both qualities of a sound scientific principle. Yes, evolution is ?only? a theory. So is gravity. Both evolution and gravity are described as theories because science has not yet been able to explain every aspect of either principle. However, I have yet to see gravity fail and leave me floating above the earth's surface. Evolution belongs in the science classroom and creation belongs in the religion classroom.
Creationism should not be taught along side evolution because it is not science. People aren't automatically wrong for believing in it, but it is not science. Evolution might be just a theory, but it's a theory with a lot of evidence and science to back it up. Creationism is religion-based and religious education has no place in public schools
Creationism should be taught in church as it relates to the Bible. The majority of the scientific community believe that the earth evolved therefore to study science properly, a base needs to be established where students can reference one model which is the likely model of our existence. Creationism could be correct and I'm not disputing that, we just need to teach what most scientists believe is true.
Creationism and Evolution are two completely different things. One is religion, the other is science. Religion should be taught in religion classes, such as Sunday School. Science should be taught in science classes. As there is no credible scientific basis for creationism, teaching it in a science class would amount to teaching religion as science, which would be a grave disservice to our students.
I'm an agnostic, don't read this wrong. I don't believe in evolution because of the science. Talking about everything that isn't evolution as non-science leaves no way to talk about Lamarck and the research that is ongoing where genes are turned on and off by the conditions exposed to progenitors. It's all over the news but is not "creation science". There is a real, scientific and research based cause for debate and real science which can be effectively stifled if religion is brought into the discussion. Science belongs in schools, religion too, but not as opposing ways of understanding the world where any person can pick one or the other. I went to public schools in Texas, I know how badly this screws up the understanding of religion and science both to frame them as opposites.
Creationism is the belief that the universe was created by a Creator. It bypasses Biblical theology by stating "a creator", while not naming a specific name. If we shall teach "creationism" as a theory of a single Creator per Judeo-Christian beliefs, why not teach the Muslim belief that Jews are descended from monkey while Muslims are created by God? If science education must incorporate and accommodate religious theory, we should not stop at biology. Why not teach the steady state theory of the Buddhists to be taught in physics? After all, their belief is also based upon religious beliefs without specifically naming a creator. Why not teach the Creation myths of the Hindus in which reality is the dream of a single God? None of those beliefs are more or less valid, if we allow religion to be taught as science. While we must be careful to remember that "The Big Bang" is a theory, it is the one with the strongest evidence. And teaching "The Big Bang" does not preclude religious students from believing their Creator (or Creators) were the trigger of that event. But demanding a Creationism theory be taught diminishes the seriousness of the evolution, as well as opens the door for all religious beliefs to be interjected into all scientific discussions.
Religious study has no place in the science classroom. There is no scientific proof for creationism and the study of it belongs in the philosophy or anthropology class.
Evolution isn't an idea, it is not a belief, it is not a religion. There is no faith involved in it. It is well researched, well modeled theory accepted by nearly all scientists, and indeed, most people in the world. On the other hand, there has been no evidence that says creationism can explain the origin of life, apart from a 2000+ year old book, which has been changed and translated to dozens of different languages over that period of time.
Shouldn't the Muslim faiths ( number 1 religion in the world) creationist views be taught too or maybe the Hindus views? We have freedom of religion which means in a government run school if you teach one you have to teach the others. We have muslins Hindus and many other religions in this country and just as much as you think yours is right so do they. Why should a Muslim be restricted to hear only your viewpoint when they know in their heart just as much as you do that they are right. If you want your school to teach your religion let it be a voluntary class and I would like the other religions taught too. Freedom of religion means I can practice my religion without being persicuted by the government. In a government run and government required school I should not be forced to listen to your religious views just as you should not be forced to listen to my religious views. Open your own school if you want to do that.
Firstly, religion is not science, so shouldn't be taught in science. Next, for all of you who are saying that it is just a theory, you should know that a "theory?" and a "scientific theory?" are completely different. A theory is "an unproved assumption while a scientific theory is "in science, a theory is a mathematical or logical explanation, or a testable model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation. It follows from this that for scientists theory and fact do not necessarily stand in opposition. For example, it is a fact that an apple dropped on earth has been observed to fall towards the center of the planet, and the theories commonly used to describe and explain this behavior are newton's theory of universal gravitation (see also gravitation), and general relativity." Challenging evolution would be like challenging gravity or the shape of the earth. I think the only reason you don't believe in evolution is that you are too blinded by your beliefs to see the truth. At least 90% of scientists (who are probably smarter than you) agree that evolution is the most probable way that life reached its current state.
Creationism is a fake speculation with no factual data to back its ludicrous claims, in short non-scientific. The church of the parent's choice can reinforce any fantasy or mythological ideologies they want to indoctrinate their child into. Public school does not service just evangelical Christians, that has been the point of contention about separation of church and state since the inception of following the rule. If a parent is so hell bent to have that crap insinuated in their child's life, then put them in Christian school and quit trying to discriminate. Yes, the US has open the inequality gates again, but damnit people, don't let the evangelicals and racist, morons win.
No! Absolutely not. I can not withstand the logic of evolution and how it is designed for people like myself to oppose religious beliefs. There are students out there that believe and still WANT to believe that we all are a creation of god. Now, if students are curious enough then they will likely ask. But why teach an entire course indoctrinating a class of students who come from different religious backgrounds. People know for a simple fact that we all are form of hominids spices.
There are tons of creation myths in the world.The Christian creation myth is not different than a Native American creation myth accept for the fact that it has more support. Bottom line is there's no scientific theory behind creationism, so it does not belong in a science class. However, teaching creationism in a history, mythology, or religion class is perfectly acceptable. Just keep it out of the science room!
Science and the theory of evolution has been backed by trusted, reliable evidence. In contrast, religion and creationism are founded on non-existant proof and hence can not be deemed the truth. There are also many other religions with conflicting ideas on the origins of life. It is not fair to separate these religions from Christianity, as in the end they are all equally questionable. Therefore learning about creationism should we out of choice and not inflicted on individuals. It is also by no means a science and hence should not be treated as one.
Evolution is a scientific theory and therefore has to be the basis of scientific education as it is an important facet of biology which explains fossils, time dating etc and other such methods. Creationism should be taught in schools but not in science class which is the current debate . As it is not a scientific theory, nor is it a science, the simple inference is that it should not be taught in science class. Whether creationism should be taught in schools at all is another debate all together.As a conclusive statement, Only scientific theories and science or branches of the same must be taught in SCIENCE class.
Science is about making a hypothesis and supporting it with evidence, making it a theory. The idea of creationism is about god made man and it relies on faith, not evidence. So no, creationism should not be teach in a sciences class. Talk about creationism in history? Maybe. In Science? No.
There is absolutely no reasonable explanation for teaching intelligent design (creationism's clever ruse at sounding scientific) in the science class room. The definition of science as follows "The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world" The action of critical thought and application of knowledge and understanding is an extremely invaluable part as our development as human beings. Teaching intelligent design along side evolution sounds reasonable at first glance. "We have to teach alternate theories" "children must hear of both types of evidence" the key words in each phrase being "theories" and "evidence" let us start with theories first. A scientific theory is the explanation of an aspect or event occurring inside our natural world which has been analyzed for falsifiable evidence through observation and experimentation and a successful theory is used to further our knowledge of the known universe. Intelligent design does none of the above. In fact, a tremendous amount of the FACTS in evolution directly contradict those of intelligent design. Now, if a proven scientific theory directly contradicts that of another idea (intelligent design) that has no biological, physical or any observable evidence what so ever, which also means it cannot be classed as "theory" how can it be practical of beneficial to teach this in a scientific classroom? Onto evidence, I hear quite often from intelligent design advocates "the bible is evidence" to which I reply, "who wrote the bible?" "God wrote the bible" "and how do you know god exists?" "The bible" - Over and over again the same repetition of ill logic is spun to no conclusive or factual end. The "evidence" of intelligent design is so thin that one who advocated must refuse to research or listen to the evolutionary evidence to the contrary. Ie. "Look how developed, complicated and beautiful the human eye is, surely that can't happen by chance?" once again we argue against a position that has next to no knowledge of the side it is arguing against. I will not attempt to explain the answer to this misguided question myself as I will diminish the elegance and TRUE beauty of evolution that can be explained by the likes of the wonderful Richard Dawkins, but the point is, it CAN be refuted. Now, as we know, in science it is imperative that it be experimented and observed to make EVIDENCE to after much hard work establish a THEORY, we have discovered that intelligent design lacks sufficient irrefutable evidence and does not fit the definition of theory so how can it be asked of all places, to be taught in the Science classroom. There is a institution where people can discuss and learn of FAITH based positions, it is the church, we do not impede on your free right to do that. So please. Do not impede on our right to teach fact and reason in school.
When people talk about it being fair, they often bring up that creationism and evolution are both theories that the scientific community approves. That is false. The United States Supreme Court in 1987 ruled that creationism is a religion not a science, while most scientists, while in the National Society of Scientists, 77% don't believe in God, and 21% have doubts. That's about 98% of scientists that don't even believe in God! How are they going to see creationism as a relevant scientific theory? Science is always changing. Eighty years from now, the Big Bang might be modified to the Plasma Universes, or something along the lines, atoms may be even more diverse than we thought, and that God is real, or not real. But creationism is simply just wrong. Evolution is a theory, yes, but it is a theory supported by empirical evidence. Creationism is simply not supported by any of that. The principal attack against evolution that creationists use is that we are descended from monkeys. They ask, why aren't we swinging on vines right now with tails? The simple answer is that we are descended from a common ancestor with other primates such as chimpanzees. A common ancestor. We evolved. Why do you think we look so similar to apes, or gorillas, or chimpanzees? Why do they have thumbs? Why are our skulls similar, our brain structure similar? Evolution isn't perfect, but creationism is just downright stupid.
Schools should only teach science in science classes and the only scientific explanation for the diversity of life is the theory of evolution. Creationism is just a fairy tale. There is no evidence to back it up in any way.
Now to the people talking about religious freedom: Nobody is infringing the students freedom to believe what they want. They are just being taught about reality. Would you also say students shouldn't be taught other scientific basic knowledge, just because somebody might not believe in it? You know, for example how electricity, light or gravity works or how living beings depend on water? Then all schools had to be closed, because somebody might not believe in the things that are taught there.
And to those people who want to teach BOTH theories: What do you mean with both? One is evolution, sure, but the second? Do you really mean, that you want do reduce creationism to that extend that it only says " Some kind of being for some reason somehow created the universe". Because, if you go any further, if you specify this any more or say how this being then intervened with the universe, you will be contradicting a lot of other religions and theories on how the universe came to be that people believe. Or you would have to teach not only two but hundreds, if not thousands of different theories.
And if you say you want to teach one specific (e.G. The christian) myth of creation, then how do you justify that? How can you be sure that it is more accurate than all the other myths? And how do you explain, that it is okay to infringe people freedom of religion when you're teaching them another religion, but not when you are simply teaching them actually observable facts?
Creationism is not a form of science, it is actually defined as a pseudoscience which is a scientific claim that is not actually validated by scientific evidence. While many do consider evolution a pseudoscience, it is backed by scientific evidence, and has shown to be a relevant part in history. Students are not required to believe everything they are taught in school, so the argument of evolution "brainwashing" students, is completely false. The only brainwashing that may happen is your child might become a little more open-minded about the world. What a nightmare, right? Evolution was a huge stepping stone in history, opening many doors that led to more scientific revelations that helped us learn more about our world, and our universe, and even the tiny floating rock we live on. Maybe instead of teaching a religion within a scientific environment, we should make a religious studies class. Or, just save the idea of creationism for church. I like that idea. This debate is not what belief we should be "imposing" on children, but giving them a broadened view of the world, and if a parent doesn't want that, then they shouldn't send their child to public school.
When you tech evolution and creationism alongside each other confuses kids. Evolution says, "THERE IS NO SUPERNATURAL BEING (GOD) THAT CREATED THIS WORLD, AND WE ALL JUST EVOLVE FROM LOWER LIFE FORMS, AND THAT THE UNIVERSE WAS CREATED BY A BIG BANG." While, creationism says, "THERE IS A SUPER NATURAL BEING (GOD) THAT LOVES US SO MUCH THAT HE SENT HIS ONLY SON (JESUS) TO DIE FOR US, TO FORGIVE OUR SINS. ALSO, CREATIONISM SAYS THAT GOD CREATED THIS WORLD AND HAS THE BIBLE AS WRITTEN PROOF. Charles Darwin is just a man, he wasn't alive, when God created this world. He isn't God. He wouldn't know if a ''BIG BANG" occurred. He supposes that that happened. In Genesis 1: 1, it says, "In the beginning GOD created the heaven and earth." this is written proof that God created the earth. So in conclusion, you should not teach creationism and evolution Both at the same time unless you want your child confused, both faiths are canceling each other out. Christianity is the right choice but that's up to you to decide., but both religions are based on faith and what the human assumes. Christianity is a faith Evolution is a belief.
While I know some schools offer separate classes solely for study of religious views, it has no place in a class for only science. Science is a subject of facts, not on philosophical opinions on who may or may not be living in the sky. That sort of study should be left to its own class, not forced upon those who wish to study proven facts of the world.
First of all, everything that describes a process or concept in science is considered a "theory". This label has nothing to do with the amount of supporting evidence available. Gravity is also known as The Theory of Gravity, so if you oppose evolution based on the fact that it's called The Theory of Evolution you'd might as well be questioning gravity as well. Secondly, evolution is heavily grounded in scientific evidence, unlike creationism. Thus it is fitting to teach evolution in a science course, and creationism, with a clear lack of scientific evidence, has no place in a science curriculum. To those who want to "teach the other side of the story", there are no scientifically supported alternatives to evolution currently available. Using this argument is comparable to supporting the teaching of a flat earth idea to oppose the idea that the earth is a spherical planet, simple because it "teaches the other side". Finally, in terms of government, the teaching of creationism clearly violates the first amendment. Public schools are under the supervision of government, and the government in not allowed to respect the establishment of a religion. Given that creationism has deeply Christian roots, both through its supporters and definition itself, it would be unconstitutional the allow the teaching of creationism in public schools. Finally, not allowing creationism in the classroom does not violate the first amendment because everyone is still free to practice their religion, as long as it's not teaching it to others in a public classroom.
Science and religion are not the same thing. Creationism is not something scientific, but taught by religion. Creationism can be taught in religious education lessons but not in science classes. We should not get them two mixed up. Science is about experimenting theories based upon it's own evidence. Teaching creationism in science lessons isn't teaching science. Science is about being taught things like Physics, Chemistry, and biology including and strictly the theory of evolution through the fossil record and study of groups of animals.
Many scientists I have read about say the more they learn about the creation of Man and the universe the more they believe there is an intelligent force behind it. Be it God or Allah or whoever, it seems to me the everyone should be able to agree that God created Man, but just not as quickly as the creationists would like us to believe.
Since science revolves around solid facts and none of them are actually scientifically proven, I believe neither should be taught.
Everything is a belief until proven true. A feeling or a connection doesn't prove anything and creationists can't share there beliefs neither can evolutionists. These are by your own standards.
The problem is that teaching a religious subject in a science class would not only be counter intuitive, it would also be biased. Creationism is a Christian belief, so why only represent Christians? You'd have to be fair and talk about Taoism, Sikhism, Buddhism, Mormon etc. Then, this would require an entirely separate class to cover everything. That is why it isn't productive to even touch the subject.
Creationism has absolutely no basis in fact and is not a competing theory to evolution. It has no place in a science class room. For over 150 years, scientists have worked to prove and disprove evolution and every new discovery has added to the confirmation that evolution is the correct theory that describes the development of life on our planet. Creationism says 'it's magic'. This is not science.
Learn what a scientific theory is. If you don't want to, then go jump off a cliff because gravity too, is "just a theory."
If you want to put disclaimers in books for evolution, all physics textbook should include this warning label:
This textbook contains material on Gravity. Universal Gravity is a theory, not a fact, regarding the natural law of attraction. This material should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully, and critically considered.
The "theory" of creationism is not an actual science, therefore it should not be taught as a science. There is no evidence to support it, it's not based on any sort of evidence, and frankly it just doesn't make sense. Not to mention the fact that it's a religious idea, which means it can't be taught as fact in schools anyway.
Evolution is not a theory, it is a fact. It works and has long been given proof not only by morphological and empirical studies, but also modern DNA microbiology. It is important to learn for any child how and why life could evolve into what it is today. Any intelligent person should ask how everything came into being, and Evolution provides a damn good answer to that question.
Creationism, on the other hand, can be torn apart up to the least little part by modern science. In a Western society, it may be of cultural significance for children to learn how the Bible describes the process of Creation, but this should be taught in Religion class, where it belongs, and not in Science Class. If "a right to choose" is what should bring a non-scientific theory into Science class, then we should maybe also teach in geography that mountains where not banked up by the clash of continental plates, but that they arose when Thor swung his hammer over the earth in wrath of the human deeds.
Creationism is the antithesis of science. It is a belief that requires no physical evidence for its validity according to those who believe in it. Evolution, however, is actually subjected to the scientific method and encourages us to explore how it works and what its implications are through testable hypotheses. And for those that keep saying that it's a "theory" just like creationism, I'm sorry but you obviously misunderstand the scientific meaning of the word. A theory explains observations. Creationism does not explain any observations. It is a theological theory that has no place in a classroom because it will harm our children's ability to reason for themselves and effectively understand and pursue true science. Oh, and let's not forget the Supreme Court now. :)
Intelligent design it not a scientific theory nor backed by any credible scientific research. It is theologically based and has no place in science classes.
The only place intelligent design should be taught is in 'religious studies' courses. And those should be available an an elective only. No student in the public school system should be required to learn a religious construct as if it were fact or within a context that places it on equal footing with a scientifically-backed theory such as evolution.
Creationism is belief and when creationists try to dismiss evolution as 'only a theory,' they are misusing the word theory.
A scientific theory summarized a hypothesis or group of hypotheses that is substantiated because of repeated testing. The creationist misuse of the word 'theory' occurs when theory; is used in non-scientific context, implying that something is unproven or speculative. While a scientific theory is used to explain some aspect of the natural world, based on knowledge that has been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation.
To claim that evolution is false or just a theory is the equivalent of saying, "gene's don't mutate."
Those in the yes column need to look up the definitions and differences between Scientific Theory and Scientific Laws. Creationism is not based on any scientific observation or hypothesis. It is only based on a book that was orally passed on (and we all know how well that goes) until it was written down, 100's of years later, I ask you, where is the science in that? And they expect us to have it taught to our kids in a science class.
Nope. Creationism and intelligent design are religious creation myths and not supported by any
more evidence than the creation myth of Ancient Egypt. But all this has already been addressed countless times down there.
For not repeating everything already said on the 'no'-side, my only argument will simply be: People who properly learned evolution seem to fully understand creationism as well (at least I know of no case in which a creationist told someone "you don't understand the complex scientific details of creationism"). But as you can verify scrolling down the 'yes'-side, creationists often haven't read up on any of the concepts of evolution beyond a "this religious website says it cannot be"-level.
So if we all - creationists and those going with evolution alike - want children to learn the greatest
amount possible, then teaching evolution only is the way to go. Otherwise kids likely wouldn't learn more about creationism, but less about evolution.
If any creationist denied that, he must admit that he just wants to ban evolution from school altogether.
I would refer all of you to the US Supreme Court case Edwards v Aguillard (1987). The Supreme Court decided that creationism is a religious belief, and considering our schools only teach secular subject matter, being an extension of the government which is separated from the church, creationism cannot be taught in schools. Learning about creationism is fine and no one is stopping us, it just cannot be done in schools for really very obvious reasons. If those of you answering yes OR no would stop to consider the fact that schools must remain secular, then this wouldn't even be a topic for discussion.
There is no debate here... Science deals with facts that are observable, testable and accepted by the educated researchers. Evolution is a theory just like gravity is a theory. There is no other scientific explanation as to how life has such diversity and complexity BUT it will always be called a theory because if another explanation is found, it can replace the currently accepted theory.
Creationism is NOT a theory, it is a fairy tale made up by ignorant sheep herders from the iron age. They didn't understand how the earth came to be so they made up a wild story of an ego-centric god spending 6 days to create Earth and a few minutes to create a 100 billion + galaxies each with a 100 billion + stars and hundreds of trillions of planets.
We know how the earth was created and it was not 6000 years ago, it was 4.6 billion years ago and this is also widely accepted as fact with evidence to support.
DNA confirms life evolves over time.
The fact you need a new flu shot every year is evidence of evolution since the flu virus evolves.
Transitional fossils prove change over time and confirm evolution.
This is not a debate... It is simply the Christians wanting to spread their fairy tales which the majority of the world is learning is non-sense.
If Christians truly feel this is a debate, perhaps they should teach evolution in Sunday School and let kids decide for themselves. Let kids look at the evidence and decide which one is the most logical... But that will never happen. They will continue forcing their fairy tales on children, telling them not to question it and be ignorant to the science that verifies evolution as fact.
There is no debate here. Evolution is accepted by close to 100% of all scientists and is the most widely accepted theory in science. Remember, gravity is a theory too. We don't have 100% of the answers but there is no other testable, scientific theory to counter it.
Evolution is proven by DNA as well as fossils and evolution is the reason people need to get a new flu shot every year... Bacteria evolve as do we.
Creationism is not a theory, it is a completely made up supernatural story by people who did not understand the world. It can be disproven easily. The earth is billions of years old, not 6000 and this is fact from many sciences; and the earth was not created in 6 days but took many millions of years and science knows exactly how it happened -- particles clumping together in space.
There is no debate on this.
There are simply 2 types of people. Those who understand evolution and those who are ignorance to science.
If this truly is an issue, why not teach evolution in Sunday school? This way, kids can make their choice as to what is correct and has evidence versus just something made up? But no, the ignorance religious nuts want to brainwash kids to not ask questions and just accept Christian non-sense.
Where I come from (Ireland ) if you said you were a creationist you would be met with laughter, pity ,fear or possibly all three ,and Ireland still regards itself as a catholic country, but the creationist brand of lunacy is too much even for them.I cannot believe in the year 2013 this garbage is even talked about without people breaking out into laughter at the idiotic ideas put forward , this is a form of brainwashing on young impressionable brains and should be consigned to a junk bin.
All Sciences are the search for truth based on facts and evidence. Religion is superficial in that it claims to have all the answers without any evidence. Biology explains, with solid evidence, how all life evolved over time. Religions teach faith as a virtue, while Science requires rigorous testing and critical thinking unanimously among all parties before a conclusion or theory is derived.
It cannot be proven therefore its fallacy has no business being taught as "fact" to young people with developing minds. Evolution however, is a fact and it is very useful in such areas as medicine, anthropology, zoology, etc. Creationism on the other hand is on the individuals own time and generally won't lead you to any sort of career, which is the point of education.
It's not. Creationism is religion. Religion is based on faith, beliefs impossible to prove. It is something you choose to believein despite not having any evidence. That's religion, and I repect that. But science is fact. Cold, hard facts. It has evidence based on years of observation and research. The only thing religion has is a book. A book full of great lessons, but if you want your kid to know them please teach him yourself. Teachers have other things to do then telling them stories.
This is akin to requiring the stork theory of human reproduction to be taught as an alternative to the sexual theory of human reproduction. There are plenty of examples of people having sex which did NOT result in a baby, right? And there are plenty of women who claim they never had sex, yet have a baby. So, the stork is the only other explanation, right?
The teaching of religious beliefs are something that ought to be left to the parents. Schools should only teach things as though they are fact when they truly are fact, evolutionary theory included. Though evolutionary theory does have a great deal of evidence supporting it, it isn't necessarily fact, , and shouldn't be taught as such. It should be recognized and taught in full though, but it should be recognized in the classroom as a well supported theory. Not fact.
"Creationism" is just a term for religion. There's no proof that yours or any other's religion is correct. Evolution is actual science. It has boatloads of evidence, while Creationism doesn't have a single shred. They're not equal. Stop assuming that opposing opinions are automatically equal. If students should here "both sides", does that mean that we should teach them that the Earth's flat in addition to teaching them that it's round? What about Stork Theory in Sex Ed? Long story short: your fairy tale belongs on the same shelf as Santa and the Tooth Fairy. Evolution will remain on the shelf with other scientific discoveries with evidence.
There is a large problem with entering a religion into a public school. As soon as Creationism is put into the science curriculum, other religions will surely follow. And as soon as other religions crowd into the science curriculum, actual scientific theories will be overlooked, soon science class would mean nothing but religious study.
While I personally agree that things alternate opinions must be taught in schools, it is the Job of parents and religious teachers to teach these things.Kids have a right to know the different opinions of different people. Besides, most major religions like the catholic church agree with the theory of evolution. So it makes absolutely no sense that science teachers have to waste time teaching religion.
I doubt Creationism is true, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be taught in schools, it's a persons own choice whether to believe in it or not. But if it was true then Creationism would be contradicting one of their own laws of incest, if we did originate from Adam and Eve then we'd all be related. However Evolution is the more likely outcome. There is heaps of evidence of evolution, through skeletons. And fossils prove that the earth is more than 6000 years old (in the bible is says that the earth is 6000 years old).
Though I support Evolution over Creationism, I still think both should be taught in schools.
I personally think that evolution should be taught in schools.Some children, depending on what household they are coming from, are taught creationism at home and various religions also believe in their own gods so when children learn this at school, they are given a choice to choose a side to support. Pressure should not be put on them to support ideals that they wouldn't want to support.
All students should be able to receive the best education that it is possible to provide fro them. This is a obviously ridiculous theory and has been opposed by 99% of the scientific community for many years now. To give in to the demands of a few ignorant if not totally misinformed members of our society is to be liked to being held at gunpoint. Not to mention separation of church and state.
I know both have not been proven but evolution is SCIENTIFIC since it uses scientific methods for studying/discovering while creationism is purely based on faith which is uneasonable and unscientific. Maybe it is worth it to teach creationism in class but surely it should not be put in SCIENCE CLASSES. Even though you can have evidence like the fossils, etc. But those evidences must rely on the accuracy of the bible and I'm absolutely sure that the bible is not 100% accurate.
Creationism is based on faith and ancient texts, while evolution is based on observation and overwhelming evidence. There is no known evidence that supports creationism. Beyond that, the two aren't even discussing the same topic. Evolution is a theory describing how the lifeforms on earth today have come to be; creationism is a theory (not in the scientific sense, mind you) stating how the Earth came to be, period.
Also, what exact beliefs make up creationism are not agreed upon. There are some that believe that the earth WAS created billions of years ago, but that humankind and the rest of the world as it is today was the ultimate goal. Others purport that the earth is approximately 6000 years old; even among those though, there is disagreement on whether fossils and other evidence of the earth's advanced age can be explained by more recent events, or if they were planted by the devil to mislead.
Creationism, along with religion, has absolutely no place in public schools. There is no credible scientific publication in support of Creationism. There is, however, many sources of evidence for evolution, even Darwin himself has sources that he formulated his theory on. For example, his research on the finches of Galapagos Islands (I believe it was the Galapagos Islands) showing how the different foods the finches ate affected the beak shape of the finch; for ex.,: finches who ate mainly nuts had a wider and stronger jaw and beak to crack the nuts open, while the finches that ate worms had longer, pointier beaks to dig worms out of their holes in the ground. That's just one example of the many. And, even if we teach both Creationism and Evolution in schools, what about the religions that don't teach God creating the world in 7 days, like Buddhism, Taoism, Shintoism, etc.? It is completely unfair to them that the larger religions should only be taught in school. Equality and separation of Church and state go right down the drain.
"Creationism" is not so much a doctrine as it is a story--like any other story in the Bible, it is open to scrutiny, inference, and interpretation. Evolution, however, is a scientific theory. It is an evidence-based explanation of the development of biodiversity, an explanation that is constantly modified as new data emerges. It is totally possible to accept scientific evidence of evolution and still be a Christian. However, a religious belief in creationism should not extend to a science classroom.
These two have been battling it out for a while and I think we could follow in the UK's teaching methods by having evolution and the sciences separate, and learning about creationism and day to day life skills in classes like GENERAL STUDIES. The sciences give us a means in which to grow into a type one civilization by producing a pool of specialists whilst creationism gives us faith, a path for the future and insight into the past.
Schools have a mandate to teach actual facts. Evolution by means of Natural Selection has been backed up by more than 150 years of dedicated research. Creationism does not stand up to the might of Science, I'm sorry to all you genuinely sensible Creationists: your theory just doesn't make sense with the observations made by virtually all the people who are qualified to interpret them.
If a school were to teach Creationism, it would have to do so under the umbrella of "Religious Education" and not "Science". Or, at least, market it as a theory which has not been proved.
School is a place where young, impressionable minds are given skills and information that will allow them to understand and interact with the world around them. The very principle of teaching Creationism, whether the student believes it or not, is ridiculous. Why even make it partially perceivable that a hate/control fuelled, population control mechanism could ever stand with to fact.
A great disservice to the human race as a whole would be the teaching of Creationism, at all.
There is no scientific evidence for creationism (intelligent design) so why should it ever be taught as science if it is not science. When intelligent design can publish there research in peer reviewed top ten journals, then this debate can get revisited. Until then creationism belongs outside of the classroom. We don’t teach Harry Potter in history class, we have no reason to teach another fiction in science class.
The creationism theory has absolutely no factual basis (what they should be teaching), whereas evolution has solid evidence on its side. Multitudes of fossils have been uncovered which firmly follow the idea of evolution, with features slowly forming over millions of years. Everything evolves, it's a fact of life! Even theologists have to accept that creationism, while a lovely story, has zero evidence to support its claims
Evolution has gone through 100 years of intense scrutiny and testing to gain its astounding validity. There is absolutely no reason something so arbitrary and unproven as creationism should be taught to our children. My children need to be taught to deal with facts and understand how life works and not here insane claims on faith. What are the teachers going to teach by the way? Allah? Krishna? Ra perhaps? Resounding NO.
I keep hearing this 'evolution is only a theory' nonsense. Theories are made based on facts. They're called theories because they have a few holes left in their reasoning, which means that more research is needed. Hence, evolution is a theory, true. But creationism is a guess! Plenty of reasoning and very little actual evidence. Evolution, however, has actual fossil evidence so it's a legitimate theory. Which is more reliable: a theory or a guess?
The headline describes my point perfectly. Science is based of facts and evidence. A hypothesis is formed, and then either proved or disproved through reliable experimentation.
Creationism is not science. There is no solid evidence of it. Do not corrupt the teaching scientific discovery with the teaching of that which is not proven.
The science isn't going to change. There is no room for teaching lies in schools. People's own arrogance is preventing further advancement for humans as an intelligent race. One day, the arrogance will be gone. Unfortunately, not soon enough. People can be extremely intelligent individuals. Stop limiting yourself with nonsense.
While I accept that some people believe that Creationism is true, (and whether I agree or disagree with the belief of creationism is not important) it is not science. Science is something that is proven by past facts and creationism is only a belief. Not to mention if someone does not believe in or agree with creationism then you're teaching a kid a belief that he doesn't believe in perhaps going against his religion.
There is this quote I see popping up on the internet a lot, "If you keep your religion out of science, I will keep my science out of your religion." I think that this is exactly what is supposed to be applied to school. Creationism/intelligent design should be left to a class about religion and evolution should be taught in a biology class.
On the issue of the big counter-argument, ("it's just a theory") I say, yes, you're right. But that is what science is about. Science is about theories and the way to prove that these theories are right. If evidence would be discovered that a theory is not right, science will adjust to that evidence. Evolution has evidence that support it whereas intelligent design does not. It would be a waste of time to teach about a theory that does not have any evidence to support it.
In the first amendment, it says that you can not promote on religion over another, but letting schools teach a religion but not others, this rule is being deliberately broken, and that just isn't OK with me or other people in any religion except Christianity, Judaism, or Islam. Those religions are the major ones, but they aren't the only ones.
Creationism is not science because of a variety of reasons. It is falsifiable and is based on a preconceived notion rather than being a conclusion of study. It is also relatively unsupported by scientists in the field. While creationism may be mentioned in the same sense that Lamarkian (spelling?) evolutionary theory (passing on of acquired traits), it should not be taught in the same sense as evolution by natural selection.
Everyone on the 'yes' side seems to believe that because we cannot fully prove evolution, creationism has to be taught. However, theories that are sufficiently backed by data (i.E. Relativity, evolution) are accepted partially because there is no evidence against it. Creationism has NO scientific evidence behind it, and therefore cannot be accepted as a scientific theory.
School is a place to learn new things such as science. With science comes theories. Evolution is a scientific theory that is backed up by scientific evidence. Creationism, however, is more religious based so it wouldn't fall into the category of science, per-say, but rather in religious classes which public school aren't allowed to teach.
The reason schools teach evolution is because it based on fact and science, not a religious text. Teaching creationism in public schools would completely go against the seperation of church and state. Not to mention that creationism is not the main idea of every religion. We live in a country that offers freedom of religion, and teaching the basic ideals of one or two religions in school would be unacceptable. If a parent wants their kid to learn creationism, I suggest they enroll them in a private school with a Christian emphasis.
The United States National Academy of Sciences defines a theory as:
"The formal scientific definition of theory is quite different from the everyday meaning of the word. It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence. Many scientific theories are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them substantially. For example, no new evidence will demonstrate that the Earth does not orbit around the sun (heliocentric theory), or that living things are not made of cells (cell theory), that matter is not composed of atoms, or that the surface of the Earth is not divided into solid plates that have moved over geological timescales (the theory of plate tectonics)...One of the most useful properties of scientific theories is that they can be used to make predictions about natural events or phenomena that have not yet been observed."
Evolution may "just be a theory", but like gravity, plate tectonics or heliocentric theory, it has overwhelming evidence to support it. Creationism on the other hand has none, which is why it would be dishonest to teach kids that creationism is plausible.
Although I am an atheist, I would also like to point out that evolution is not a tenant of atheism, and that many theists accept evolution. In fact most protestant denominations as well as the Roman Catholic Church accept evolution.
I don't think that there is enough scientific evidence supporting many of the claims for creationism, however, I do think that it is still important enough to be mentioned, just not in science class. Perhaps creationism should be talked about in other subjects... Maybe History or English class? This is because though there are scientific flaws in creationism, it has been taught for hundreds of years, it has been an accepted theory for quite a long time and has influenced many people. Also there are many religious writings that could be significant to those studying English, how English developed, poetic structure, etc. By not teaching or talking about creationism and religious views in public schools, teachers might be fostering intolerance for others' beliefs, and would be leaving out an important concept need to understand many historical and present events.
If people want to learn about creationism they can go to church where people will agree with them and learn about it, or read about it online, read the bible, etc. Public schools are not part of the church, what they teach is based on facts and learning about creationism is completely unnecessary.
It doesn't belong in science, because it in itself is not a science. Maybe just make a new, separate class for it? I don't understand why this would be such an issue of 'to teach or not to teach' if you just covered it in another class. What if someone is offended by teachings such as creationism? We can't teach whatever we want in class, and class isn't about personal things like religion. Gotta keep 'em separated!
Creationism is a religious interpretation of how people and Earth came to be. It is not a scientific explanation of reality. Besides, there is no tested evidence supporting Creationism, but almost all evidence supports Evolutionism. Surely people should be able to choose their religious beliefs? All in all, education should be about truth and facts, not faith and dogma.
Evolution means change over time and that is a fact. It is as demonstrable as gravity, the fact that if you remove drag from the atmosphere everything from a feather to a 4 ton chunk of concrete will fall due to the acceleration of gravity at 9.8 meters per second squared. Now in biology Evolution means changes in population allele frequencies over time. Which is also a fact. If it wasn't DNA testing wouldn't work. There is the theory of evolution which is the backbone of modern biology is our best explanation of WHY there changes in population allele frequencies over time. This is due to different forms of population genetics. Much like Einstein's theory of general relativity explains why things fall at 9.8 meters per second squared. Creationism shouldn't be taught in science because it isn't science, and its the same reason students aren't taught that demons cause infections in health class as opposed to The germ theory of disease. If creationism can come up with an actual hypothesis that is falsifiable, then make a prediction with that hypothesis,then test that hypothesis, then submit it to review by biologists who will also test that hypothesis,and if that hypothesis stands up to scrutiny then it will be on equal footing with the theory of evolution and allowed to be taught alongside evolution. Until then you cant replace something that works with something that doesn't
Creationism is hardly a theory, and has little logical and scientific backing. Even if it has cultural and religious merit, it has no place in a science class. Rather, include it in the history or a religious studies class. Keep science as science- logical, and based off of observation. It's not even a religious issue, it's about what science is.
While evolution is not entirely proven yet, creationism has been disproven. The earth is older than 4000 years old and wasn't made in 6 days. Carbon dating PROVES this. Light and Dark were not created in a day and existed before the Earth existed. The earth didn't exist before the Sun existed. Also, besides the ridiculous idea of teaching out of a 2000 year old textbook, this is a religious book, and cannot be taught in public schools because of the 1st Amendment.
Creationism and Evolution have been two highly debated topics from a long long time. Evolution has the upper hand since it has more 'substantial' proof and is actually a proved theory. Arguments against evolution are purely scientific and should not involve creationism. The world runs on science, and students should know that. If creationism is taught alongside evolution in schools, it will confuse the young mind. And since evolution is the solid explanation of all biotic components of our planet, creationism will only confuse and misdirect them. Creationism unlike evolution, fails to explain the detailed growth of each living organism, their components, etc. Thus, creationism and evolution are poles away and honestly, lets leave education to solid matter rather than 'stories' and 'fables' because although the world needs moral preachers, scientists and physicists are, well, more beneficial I would say.
Education should be about truth and facts, not faith and dogma. Creationism is a religious explanation of reality, not scientific. Besides, there's no empirical evidence supporting Creationism, but all evidence supports evolutionism. People should have their religious rights to whether believe in creationism or not; it is simply too much of a dogmatic subject.
The Theory of Evolution is not "just a theory."
For something to be a scientific theory, it must be tested and have evidence. Which is something evolution has passed whilst creationism has not.
Creationism is a hypothesis and not a very good one. There is NO evidence of a creator in our world. Don't even bring up 'Irreducible Complexity' because that argument has been shot down way too many times, I'm starting to feel bad.
"creation" should NEVER be taught in SCIENCE! Science gives PROOF! Religion is just an evil excuse to cover up the TRUTH! Ignorant people deny science because its the ONLY answer, and they BRAINWASH others to do the same! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!! If ONLY religion didn't EXIST, people would be MUCH HAPPIER with their own scientific reality. I.E. Homosexuality. I THOUGHT this was the 21st Century.....
Creationism is a religious belief therefore we should not allow public schools to teach it to children who might have a different belief. If you want your children to learn about creationism, take them to a private school or even Sunday school but I truly believe that religion should not be mixed with public education because that is going against the separation of church and state in America.
While i do think that schools should stress that evolution is still only a theory creationism should not be taught because there is little evidence for it and is also a religious belief, while some may think science is a religious it is not because science has no set belief and nothing is proven, scientists are always trying to prove each other wrong and to find a more accurate truth
Far too many conservatives believe that our country was founded on Christianity. False. Some of our founding fathers were Christian but they founded our nation on separation of church and state. They were escaping religion being tied to government, so the last thing they would want is to recreate that. Also, even if Christianity were the national religion, you can't teach science out of a book that's thousands of years old and has been rewritten and rewritten and translated and re-translated many, many times. Whether you can accept it or not, there is cold, hard evidence for evolution. Go to the National Museum of Natural History in Washington D.C. And see it for yourself. It's really quite remarkable.
It is oppressing students' decisions to find out about the world and how it works. If any wish to be scientists later in life, strongly believing in creationism is a major drawback. This is stopping learning in children's life. Teachers need to stick to teaching it as a religious topic.
There is absolutely no scientific basis for creationism. To state that creationism is an actual contender for evolution is to be under a serious misapprehension. Many people in support of creationism have no idea about scientific methods and the difference between a scientific theory and hypothesis. Theory is the closest we can come to fact in science; gravity is a theory, but we still accept it as truth and do not disregard it as a hypothesis (temporary expectation to be tested through empirical observation).
We should teach our children science. Evolution versus creationism is in no way a matter of opposing opinions; one has a long history of scientific enquiry backing it up, questioning each and every assumption it makes. The other is based upon a book that is centuries old and is too afraid to even slightly criticise the ridiculous story it posits. If we allow creationism to be taught in schools as an alternative view, then we are seriously deluding ourselves and our children.
The goal of science is to attempt to further our knowledge of the natural world by making testable (falsifiable) hypotheses and then attempting to prove or disprove those hypotheses. The idea of creationism and more broadly of religion is absolutely not a falsifiable hypothesis (primarily because it does not deal with the natural world nor things that we can observe). Thus, creationism is not a part of science and has no place within any real science curriculum. Why would you teach something that is by definition unscientific in a science class?
Furthermore, science and religion exist in two completely different realms. Science deals with the natural world and natural phenomena whereas religion deals with supernatural matters (i.E. Things that are outside the natural world such as heaven and hell). Students should not be taught to conflate the two.
High school students learn the basics of all major religions that believe in creationism in their global history/social studies class. This fits in with the history curriculum because these religions were important to the civilizations they were/are practiced in throughout history. Science classes teach factual science, not religion. Creationism is a belief. Evolution is a theory, meaning there is nothing to prove without a shadow of a doubt that it's true, BUT there is plenty of evidence to suggest it is. This is why evolution stays in science classes, and creationism stays in history classes.
Evolution is one of the most successful theories. People who say "well if its just a theory then its not fact" seem to not understand that gravity is also a theory and thus saying that statement is saying that gravitational pull doesn't actually happen. Evolution has been tested in many ways and has been successful. Its only logical that things will continue to improve because we can see it in our own selves.
Creationism has no facts supporting it and the faster we realize it, the faster the country will stabilize educationally
Before I make an argument, I would like to state that I am not saying creationism should not be taught at all, I am saying that it might no be a good idea to teach it in science lessons. I think that some atheist or parents with different beliefs might not think it would be such a great idea that religion (mainly Christianity) should be taught in a completely different subject. Creationism is a part of religion and beliefs, and therefore it should be taught in Religious Education lessons (R.E). Evolution can be taught in science lessons because there is a lot of scientific fact alongside it.
I believe that both versions should be taught in schools, but in different subject lessons, so a child can choose for themselves what to believe in, instead of being pressured into religion or atheism.
First of all what science books have creationism in them? We have to base public education on facts not magic. Provide as much evidence as one can and then allow the student to formulate their on beliefs. For years out government, schools , and homes have been standardized with a bible based set of morals and beliefs. These are backed up by a book written long ago. Out society has slowly but surely began to move away from this. We are becoming a more educated and accepting country. Because the good book says doesn't have the impact it use to.
Creationism is based off of belief where as evolution is founded on intellectual observations. Creationism should be taught as well as other religious convictions in social studies, as they are a vital part of our history. However, when it comes to science, creationism should not be taught as if it were fact.
I say if parents want their children to learn about Creationism, they should teach it themselves or ask a Sunday school teacher or a priest to tell them about it. I believe in God and Evolution. BITE ME. There is a RIDICULOUS amount of evidence pointing to evolution and how the earth is billions of years old. I believe in science and evidence. There is no evidence that the earth is a couple thousand years old.
Creationism has no basis in logic and reasoning which is why it should be kept away from school. I don't think they should teach any religion in school. If your parents want to teach you that, it's fine. Just leave it out of our public school system. Evolution is a fact. Deal with it.
Creationism is a blatant religious statement, the separation of church and state prohibits such things in government/ public places (Private schools obviously can do whatever they please). Creationism along with all other creation myths can be taught in a religious studies, comparative religions, religious history classes. Science class is for science (note the name of the class), anything that is not scientific does not belong.
Normally in schools, evolution would be taught in science class. The reason that evolution is taught in schools instead of creationism is twofold: 1. Evolution is a scientific theory that was created by the use of the scientific method; this makes the theory of evolution science; on the other hand, creationism is supported by "faith", which is definitely not science; since teachers should really teach science in science class instead of faith, creationism should not be taught. 2. Creationism pertains to religion, and it would therefore be unlawful for public school systems to implement creationism in the classroom; many people would respond by saying that evolution defies religion, and would therefore be unlawful to teach children too, but evolution is actually tested and pertains to the scientific view of the world; creationism is not tested, and is therefore a mere blind shot in the dark; it should not be taught in schools.
In my opinion a good school system should teach children both evolution and creationism. The distinction from the question I am answering is that I would have the two thought separately in the first place and with a clear explanation about the opinion conflicts between them.
Evolution is the right philosophy that leads to an understanding of the natural world and not teaching it would be a grave error. Generations of children would start to loose contact with the knowledge required to push the current scientific understanding forward.
Creationism is a fundamental philosophy of the christian religion. And grouping together in pursuit of religious beliefs of various kind is what brought the human civilization as a whole to where it is at this point in time. So religion is just as important as science but for completely different reasons.
As long as there is a clear understanding in the minds of school children that evolution is the correct way of understanding the natural world and humans origin as a species, I would teach creationism at another discipline so that children that do not receive a religious education at home are thought what the christian religion is about. And I would through in other religions as well.
Teaching kids creationism would encourage them in life to just accept any theory without proof. If science classes aim to develop an intelligent generation and the next generation of scientists, this method of science relying on a >scientifically< unproven theory to be fact is going to wreck our future science industries. Churches need to be kept out of at least science.
Any good science class is one that teaches what we know from science. How could anyone disagree with this? Science doesn't have dogmas in the sense that religion does. For this reason, science class need not teach evolution like a religious doctrine, simply teach it the way scientists know it. Discuss the evidence, the counter evidence, the history of the theory, what it does explain, what it doesn't explain, what is current research, the problems with the theory, etc. This is what science is and how it should be taught. Evolution is what science knows right now. Its not perfect, it doesn't explain everything, but who would deny this? What science IS perfect? What science is infallible?
It is mind-boggling when a creationist says "Evolution is only a theory" meaning that its not an infallible "dogma" of science. Nothing really is...And evolution is broad. Certain things about it may be true, certain other things false. But that is all irrelevant, it remains science no matter what and because of this should be taught in schools as science.
Schools should not however teach evolution disproves God or the Bible. Let people decide for or against this on their own or with the help of religion teachers, faith leaders, and their families.
The name "science" class implies that during these classes pupils are thought science and since creationism is only a fairy tale it shouldn't be thought in science classes.
Creationism has absolutely no evidence besides the Bible whatsoever and the things written in the Bible don't have evidence at all. Everything should be taken as false until there's even a little real-testable evidence that supports it.
It doesn't matter what your religion is, creation is not accepted as science. Besides, there are so many religions out there, it would take forever to teach each idea, taking away time for other lessons. World religions include Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Paganism, Shintoism, and much more. I think the teacher should mention that although evolution has much evidence, some people don't believe it because of religious beliefs, and that they don't have to believe in evolution because we don't want to shove things that contradict religion down religious people's throats.
If schools teach creationism alongside real science, then it seems as if it is science too. When in reality, it has no science to back it up, and often completely contradicts science on even the most basic of principals. Not only that, but teachers are supposed to teach in a secular manner, according to the US constitution (in the US only, of course). If they were to teach creationism, not only are they indoctrinating children, but they are breaking the law.
Everything that is taught in science in schools is based on the favoured current theory. Overtime these theories may be proved wrong and replaced with new more viable ones. Schools shouldn't teach creationism but instead offer it as an alternative view point and encourage students to speculate for themselves by giving them all the facts. The reason evolution is taught is because it is the most strongly supported by fact. It should be considered in exams as "the right answer" as it makes the most logical sense. However, students should be aware that further evidence could lead to a different answer in future.
Evolution is a theory that comes from a logically plausible scenario backed by observations of progressively complex biological evidence. Creationism or "intelligent design" is the theory of "poof". Evolution has something behind it of substance that you can agree with or find fault with, but creationism is simply a "well this could have happened maybe"-theory. On a very basic level, I understand the argument that you should "teach all positions", but when the position is a scientifically devoid idea, it has no place in a school. It's like teaching historical fiction in a history class just because we might have gotten it wrong or that dinosaurs and unicorns may still live somewhere in the world because we haven't found them yet. Yes these things very remotely possible, but without evidence they have no place in academia, especially not in early education.
Although the theory of evolution is missing a few details, it is irrefutable in the sense that one can observe life adapting to change. Also, there is no possible way the human race simply appeared out of nowhere. The creation of advanced life is a grueling process that can take hundreds of thousands. If a teacher wanted to talk about creationism from a philosophical or theoretical perspective, that would be okay, so long as it wasn't claimed to be fact.
Public schools are a government-based education. Separation of church and state, in this case separation of creationism and public schools. Not all creation stories are alike, of course I'm sure this refers primarily to the Christian version.
I am a creationist, and even I can admit that what we believe is pseudoscience. A scientific theory must be falsifiable, and Creationism isn't. Creationism makes no useful predictions and ultimately is not helpful in any field of science. Evolution has advanced our studies of biology, predicted bacterial resistance to antibiotics, among many other things.
As far as "teaching the controversy" goes, there is no controversy, scientifically speaking. Evolution has been the dominant theory for over 150 years. Should we teach that the holocaust was fake because some people want it taught in history class? Of course not. But why not? People have the freedom to inquire, (Jacob_Thomas) don't they?
Creationism isn't science. Now, if your stance is young-Earth creationism, the contradictories with science are there. You just have to simply investigate. Now, intelligent design is not science. It simply isn't falsifiable. Its a belief, unsubstantiated by evidence. Religions individuals will continue to expand the boundaries of intelligent design to incorporate modern science to keep with the notion of a designer, despite its many fallacies. Simply put, creationism should be taught in the religion classes, but kept far away from the science class. Scientific theories operate perfectly well without the intervention of a supreme being.
Now we are talking about science classes here. Science is a process of thinking through logic and evidence. Although evolution can't be completely proven true, the evolutionists follow scientific principles to expand their theory. Creationism doesn't do that; and hence it ain't science. What's the best evidence that creationists have? Bible? Not to diss any Christians but a book that was written thousands of years ago and had been rigged by multiple individuals cannot be a good scientific evidence. So, sure you can teach kids creationism in church, Sunday schools, whatever. But please keep it away from science classrooms. Science classrooms are for science, not religion.
Creationism is not advanced by any respected scientist. It fails to give a simpler or more accurate prediction of reality than evolution. It has been advanced by non-scientists for nonscientific reasons. It is not a science. Science is not a matter of subjective preferences, since it is based on observable phenomena.
Which for of creationism? Would you teach Hindu reincarnation, the Christian belief that the Earth was made in seven days. You see the issue that arises from this is, there are multiple religions. Do you plan on going through each and every belief with them through their education? I hate to say it but that would be a waste. In most cases their parents will end up passing down their own beliefs. Evolution on the other hand is a fundamental part of Biology, every respectable biologist out there believes in it. It is also worth mentioning that evolution in itself does not entirely suggest there is not a higher power.
Evolution is a theory, it's peer-reviewed, testable evidence that is based on hard scientific data (by this I mean facts that are verifiable by the modern scientific method). As opposed to creationism, which is the belief that something is too complicated to occur naturally (or randomly, as creationists always put it) therefore, god must have done it. This isn't coming to a logical conclusion based on looking at the evidence, this is attempting to create evidence to support an already pre-determined conclusion. One is science, one is faith. They both belong in a classroom like they both belong in a church.
Evolutionism isn't a proven fact, however its the most accepted cientific theory by far margin and its the logical one to be taught at school.
Creationism is based on a religious principle and a nation shouldn't favor a religion and neither is creationism an accepted cientific explanation. That being sayed there is no reason for creationism to be taught to students, its important they know it? Yes for general culture, but there are more important knowleadges they don't know.
There are lots of things we can fix in schools with our Bibles, I don't see why we would limit it to one minor part of a biology class. I mean sure, the quarter of a page the Bible devotes to the origin of the universe and the tectonic, geologic, atmospheric and geologic history of the earth can certainly replace the entire combined scientific record on the subject, but why would we stop there? I had to pull my kids out of public school when their teachers started talking about the earth being round. The Bible clearly says it is a flat disc. And this nonsense about the moon not being a second light generating source but only reflecting the sun's light, that's obviously the work of the devil. Plus, if the Sun really were outside the great sky dome it would simply go out because, as we all know, the vastness of space is actually an enormous sea of heavenly waters (thank goodness for the dome).
So lets not be hypocritical, here. Since the Bible is a scientific work that should be used as an evaluative tool, its truth can't be limited to evolution. It impacts all of science. It's about the grand canyon being formed in the past 6,000 years as much as it is about the existence of cromagnon man. There can be no astrophysics if it's all under water. And Australia doesn't exist.
Creationism has no evidence and is a belief, whereas evolution has an abundance of evidence and is supported by scientists all over the world. Creationism belongs in religion class, but carefully mentioned as just a parable, and NOT FACT. Anyone who believes in creationism is a fool. That is all.
Any careful reader will understand that I am more concerned with the fact that people wish to teach religion in a SCIENCE class.
Please watch your terminology. If you mean to teach religion in it's own OPTIONAL class, then so be it.
The mandatory teaching of religion in science is not only a breach on the amendments, but on personal belief and logicality as well. Religion cannot be mandatory in school, individuals have different religions or none at all, and science is meant to do the opposite of creationism. (science disproves and develops around facts while creationism proves and develops around mostly and currently unsupported claims.)
In short, separate them as classes and make creationism (religion) optional while making science mandatory since it is more applicable at the moment whereas creationism is being questioned to death in the same department.
First off, they contradict each other. Creationism states that humans were created by God. Evolution states that we evolved. I personally am an Atheist, so I may seem bias. Not to mention that even if you yourself believe in God, you can't prove he exists. Teaching it as an optional class so a person who wants to learn about it is fine. But you should not teach something that can't be proven, and likely did not happen, and have it mandatory. There could be people who believe different, or not at all. Why should they HAVE to go to a class about creationism when they don't believe in it, and/or don't want to go in the first place?
Evolution has been proven. Creationism has not. So why teach this if there's absolutely no evidence to back it up? And doesn't that mean that we should also teach the stork theory alongside biological reproduction in sex education? You can believe whatever you want, just make sure you actually know what you're telling these children can be backed up with facts. They can learn about religion outside of science class.
The mere proposition of teaching creationism in a science class is irrational. It violates the scientific method's entire purpose: to make observations, and further, predictions about the natural world. Creationism violates such a rule in three ways: it cannot be observed, it cannot make predictions, and it involves the utilization of the supernatural.
As creationism is largely, if not entirely based on religious grounds, it should only be taught in churches, synagogues, mosques, etc.
Another issue that arises is the factor of which form of creationism is to be taught. Which religious teaching should be taught? Judeo-Christian? Greek mythology? The creation story of the Aboriginal Peoples? There are too many creation stories that there would be no time in the school year for teaching legitimate science, as all the time would be spent on the different creation stories.
The first amendment and the separation of church and state support that only evolution should be taught. If parents want to teach their kids something with little to no scientific evidence on their own time that's fine-- as a Christian I will teach my own kids, but it shouldn't be taught in schools.
Since creationism is not based on scientific principals and because creationism requires the existence of a god: it seem illogical for them to simply throw in the idea of creationism. A public education is supposed to be separated from religion; not against it, or for it, merely indifferent to it.
We live in a very diverse society. That is where people come from many different races, religions, and have different beliefs. Do you think that backing a Christian Ideology onto everyone, regardless of if they are Christian or not, is logical or even moral? Many people believe in atheism and science or another belief, this would not be fair to those people.
Children need to be feed facts not fairy tales. There is scientific proof for evolution but the only "proof" creationism has is a book full of fables and tall tales, though they do teach moral lessons they are quite frankly full of BS when it comes to things like science.
Creationism was used to explain the origins of life before we knew better. It was a hypothesis without any evidence based on the dogma of religious faith. We now have an alternative explanation for the origins of life, with so much evidence that it passes the threshold of theory and becomes fact. Evolution is fact, well established by evidence. It is plainly foolhardy and immoral to continue to teach the lie of Creationism when it is known to be false.
There is a difference between a theory and a scientific theory. Creationism is a theory based on religion. Evolution is a scientific theory based on a gathering of research, facts, and regularities within the two. While a scientific theory has evidence toward it, it can still be falsified. The theory of intelligent design lacks those features and, like creationism, is not qualified as a scientific theory.
Being that the theory of evolution is scientific, it should be taught as such in a science class. Creationism is a religious based belief that should be taught in a world studies class, alongside reincarnation, which is also a religious belief.
Though it would be hilarious to be taught it, it's simply not true and would be a waste of time. There is not logic in Christianity, but there is in atheism. There is so much evidence for evolution! I mean just look at natural selection! Perfect sense! Fossils in the earth showing evolution! It's quite funny how people can believe this stupid fairy tale. It's a joke.
At schools, children are at a formative age. They can believe many things if 'instilled' (brainwashed) at this age that they carry into adulthood. Sadly, many of these beliefs are not logical. Creationism honestly has next to nothing behind it. Introducing it as a possible equal to evolution would cause economic damage in the decades to come. Even if it is just suggested as a possibility, the seed of fundamentalist (rather than skeptical) doubt is implanted.
Creationism and evolution cannot be taught together in any situation. It would be like teaching a toddler how to write with their feet in addition to their hands; it wouldn't work. The two beliefs - well, the one faith-based religious belief and the one evidence-backed theory - are too vastly different from one another to be taught "alongside" one another.
No. Creationism belongs in "religion," the study of faith. Science is science, the study of facts. Evolution is based on science and facts, and religion is based on faith. (Faith meaning the lack of facts.)
Teaching creationism alongside evolution gives kids the impression that creationism has actual evidence supporting the "theory" which it doesn't.
Creationism is not based on scientific evidence, it is merely one of the irrational beliefs of the dominant religions of Europe, the Middle East and North America. Should schools be allowed to teach kids that the Sun revolves around the Earth in geography lessons? Of course not, yet the Catholics persecuted Galileo for suggesting otherwise. School is where children go to learn facts, not to be indoctrinated with superstitious mumbo-jumbo.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Enacting legislation so that Public schools can teach Creationism respects an establishment of religion which is in direct violation to the US Constitution.
Creationism does not stand up to the scientific method so why on Earth would it belong in a science classroom? Intelligent design and creationism is the most ridiculous attempt to disguise these mythological fairy tales as an alternative "science" when it's no more scientific than it is to calculate the route Santa Claus takes to get to each house on x-mas. If you want to "believe" (I really do hate that word as it gets tossed around a lot as an excuse for why people are allowed to ignore evidence and not be locked up for being insane) that everything we observe about the universe is caused by God, by all means, go ahead; I really don't care. What matters is that you don't ignore the FACTS of the age of the universe and the planet and evolution, and trying to sneak this pseudoscience into the classroom that MY child attends by cloaking it under the weak "freedom of religion" point is LUDICROUS.
Evolution should be brought up when discussing archaeology and biological science. Creationism instills morals/ ethics and that is very important, but creationism doesn't bare any facts when it comes to a deity in which case, if something can't be factual than it doesn't have a place in school fundamentals. I think creationism is fine to teach once in college as an elective course.
If schools taught creationism also then they would have to teach every other religion's ideas on how we were created. Also, evolution is taught in science class because it is backed up by science. If they also taught creationism then it would be silly to teach it in science because it is not backed up by science. When teachers teach evolution they do not usually push the idea on their students, they just teach them the theory. Sure Christians could say they are being taught things that go against their religion, but if you have a problem with it then just go to a Christian school. Teaching creationism alongside evolution would not be fair to any other religions.
The classroom is a place for education, not indoctrination. One should not press the beliefs of a group of religious people upon children in a public school classroom. Science is not a democracy- its results and findings are not changed whatsoever by popular opinion. Evolution is one of the most well-supported theories of biology, while creationism (or the misleading "Intelligent Design") is mere pseudo-science. Don't teach the controversy; teach the truth. After all, we don't teach Intelligent Falling alongside gravity, or alchemy with chemistry, or astrology with astronomy. This is a no-brainer.
Creationism is a religious belief and religion is a collection of beliefs that someone chooses to believe. Science does not have the concept of choice. Either it is or it is not. I can not say that earth is flat because I choose to believe so, and then go on and teach this to children. Can I?
Also there are not only Christian children in the schools. Teaching creationism would mean to force our religion on others.
Creationism has not a single shred of evidence (except for false claims, and false evidence that can be easily proved false.) Creationism is not observable, testable, predictable, or provable.
Evolution is backed up by mountains of evidence, from Biology, Palaeontology, Genetics, Bio-Chemistry, etc. Evolution is observable, testable, predictable, and provable.
Science is based on observation, experimentation, evidence, and logic.
Creationism is based on bronze age fairy tails and myths, from a book written by ancient cattle sacrificing primitives, that had no understanding of the universe.
Given the fact that we are referring to science classes, the idea of creationism should not be taught. There is very little, if any, scientific evidence supporting creationism, while evolution is fully backed by scientific evidence, as there have been no proved hypotheses to disprove it. In a science class, only scientific principles or highly related concepts should be taught. While students should have the option of learning about creationism in a Religion or World History class, only proven concepts should be taught in a science class.
There are mountain-fulls of evidence for Evolution by Natural Selection. There is 0 evidence for creationism.
Science class should have science in them. Creationism should be kept to churches, not taught in public.
There is no controversy in the scientific community, evolution is as close to fact as a theory can.
Creationism hasnt even become a valid hypothesis, much less a theory.
I beg everyone who reads this to look up what a scientific theory is, before you say "well it is just a theory."
And people who are for equal opportunity. Do you think alchemy should be taught alongside chemistry, astrology along astronomy?
We are talking about a science class, not a faith class. Who are you going to listen to, some people on the internet, or 99% of scientists who are experts on the subject?
Knowledge is preferable to ignorance, and when schools teach such ignorant thought, society fails to progress because, instead, it regresses. The problem is that one tries to prove itself while the other says that all creatures were made 7,000 years ago. Well, 8,000 years ago, glue was made. In the end, only science, not ignorance, should be taught to growing minds. We need our kids to be open-minded and scientifically literate, not droning zombies talking about fantasies.
I am atheist. I do not believe in God, Allah, or any other supernatural being. I believe that the world was created in a spectacular, physics-warping explosion, shooting energy and matter across space, later to form into planets, stars and whatnot. I think that school should let me believe what I want to believe, as stated in the Bill of Rights.
Evolution does not. And evolution also doesn't require irreligious beliefs, for there are many Protestants, Catholics, etc. Who support evolution.
Last of all, evolution is based off of science, whereas creationism is not. Therefore, it should not be taught in science class in the public school system.
And it is perfectly possible to believe in God and science.