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Should same-sex couples be banned in Kazakhstan? (KIMEP University discussion)

Asked by: Vlad_Firsov
  • Kazakhstan is the Eastern Country with traditionally high moral level

    We should not receive a western influence in order to safe our nation. Same-sex relations are also one of the West's weapons to divide society, make it unstable, weaken it by reducing its population, to erase moral values. Disappearing of native traditions which do not accept same-sex relations means vanishing of national identity and patriotism. All together it makes us an easy target for western imperialists to conquer.

  • Ban ban ban

    Of course they should be banned. There is nothing I can think of about same-sex couples in the history of Kazakhstan. Unfortunately, now we have them. Gays and lesbians are the defects of humankind. Every religion against it. Kazakh people preach Islam for many years, and in this religion it is clearly stated that people who have same-sex relationship must be punished. The punishment for this stuff is execution. For example, in Saudi Arabia government execute gays if there are at least three people who can confirm this sexual act. Those who have heard the story of Sodom and Gomorrah know why God ruined these cities. However, if these minority people conceal their sex and have no sexual act between each other then it is fine. But if they want some kind of rights and legalization then execution seems to be the only way to clean our society from this dirt. I can't see the point on counting the pros and cons of same-sex couples. These relations are abnormal. Fortunately we have not so many of them in Kazakhstan and which is more important; they don’t feel free on expressing their relations. It is one of the topics in which I stick with what religion says about it. Now let’s assume that the government of Kazakhstan will legalize these couples, what will be the reaction of people? Do you think that legalization will have the same results as in European countries? Kazakhstani citizens (especially Muslims) will become mad, and I am sure that there will be a lot of murders. So let’s just vote for ban and leave in peace.))

  • Same-sex relationships are not extravagant or shows your individual identity, they are simply wrong.

    Gay marriage, lesbian marriage, you can marry your dog if you want, there is not an issue that someone make you think as they want, it is just awful. Supporting gays and their marriage, usually it is only the girly thing, they think it is cute, funny, as well as men think about lesbians. However despite personalities of the "special ones", it is not natural, there do you think AIDS came from? Even if we don't take the examples which i mentioned, in Kazakhstan it is simply impossible. Our traditions are stronger than in other countries, even Russia and countries of the previous USSR dont hate these people as we are. In my opinion same-sex marriages should be banned in Kazakhstan, by the way, they definitely won't be!

  • Strongly supporting yes

    Definitely yes. Same sex couples are against the human nature and pshycology. The basic point of human being is reproduction, to increase the population of the Earth. However homos can not do it, except some artificial ways. Kazakhstan is Eastern country with quite strong traditions and customs. Also, to be a homo and be a same sex family would be shame in front of relatives and family.

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  • I absolutely against same sex marriage.

    Western civilization changes every day. Their morality level is lower and lower every day. They do not respect people that are older than they are, they use alcohol and drugs. All of this things leads to degradation of their civilization. Same-sex couples are abnormal in both, biological and moral terms. Every religion is against it. We live in Kazakhstan, in country where people respect traditional way of life. If we want to save our traditions for our children and if we do not want see the end of our civilization, we should band same-sex couple.

  • I absolutely agree that gay marriage was legalized

    Same-sex marriage is already allowed in 15 countries.Moreover the recognition of same-sex marriage is a political, social, human rights and civil rights issue, as well as a religious issue in many nations and around the world, and debates continue to arise over whether same-sex couples should be allowed marriage, be required to hold a different status (a civil union), or be denied recognition of such rights. Same-sex marriage can provide LGBT taxpayers with government services and make financial demands on them comparable to those afforded to and required of male-female married couples. Same-sex marriage also gives them legal protections such as inheritance and hospital visitation rights.

  • I am totally agree with this statement.

    According to the statistics of National Deputy, today in Kazakhstan there are about 240,000 persons with non traditional sexual orientation. More and more couples try to legalize their relationships by getting marriage, and consequently adopt child. Child who is growing up in such kind of family looks at life from wrong side. Having to fathers or mothers he thinks that it is normal to have attractions to the same sex. That kind of situation in family is really confuses child's psychology. The number of mentally ill people is increasing. If we do not take any measures, in the future we will not be able to stop growth of people with non traditional sexual orientation.

  • The bible clearly states that homosexuality is a sin.

    According to the Koran and Bible, homosexuality is a sin! I totally agree with everyone, that Kazakhstan is the Eastern country, and for our mentality not traditional couples is a shame and rarity. But every year in our county such people becomes more and more and because of it our culture and customs lose the force. I consider too, that it is a big problem nowadays . Maybe in America, the same sex couple are popular and normal, but In our country it is not accepted. It is necessary to fight against it. We should not allow that homosexuals and lesbians will extend in Kazakhstan.

  • Homosexuality is OK in the United States but not Kazakhstan

    I would say that same-sex couples should never be banned in the United States but they should be banned in Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan is just different, which is why this question specifically asking about Kazakhstan is totally appropriate. Otherwise you would just ask "Should same-sex couples be banned?" God did say that homosexuality was wrong and stipulated it only applied to Kazakhstan after all.

  • Reasons for banning gay marriages

    In my point of view same-sex couples should be banned in Kazakhstan because it is awkward. There are several reasons for banning it. First and the most important because if gay marriages becomes legal, there will be a sharp decrease in children birth. Second reason for that, this kind of marriages are not supported by religion. If now same sex couples would be legal, then world may become crazy. People may even wish to marry their pets and other strange wishes. Different sex couples are existing for a long time and majority of society will never adapt to this awkward wishes.

  • It is just law issue. Only happiness is valuable.

    Homosexuality has a right to exist. It is proved by many decades, because, despite the fact that many people consider that homosexuality is the new fashion, it has existed since Roman times. Possibly earlier. Even in 342 year were issued decrees on the persecution of homosexuals, so modern fashion is not cause of such deals. According to research by scientist Bruce Beydzhmil homosexual behavior recorded even in the animal world. Scientist mentioned that about 1500 species of animals from primates till worms exposed to homosexual behavior. So sin against nature may no longer be considered. Sigmund Freud himself did not consider homosexuality as an illness. He believed that the comfort of the person in a particular manifestation is more important than the attitude of other people to his view of the world. Person is able to choose nowadays. Choice of religion, work, and hobbies is not limited and it would be foolish to limit someone’s love. Love and desire to start a family is rare among today's youth and if homosexual couples want be together, want to be happy and not afraid to talk about this, we should be on their side. Homosexuals will not go away and disappear. They will be next to us. Open or secretly. Marriage is a serious step, and not many people can be happy in this condition. So if homosexuals are the people whose marriage will be long-lasting and happy, government and people have to help them. And finally, imagine that your child was born that way. What would you do with him? Especially, if he found his true love.

  • What do you think about people, who was born with it?

    We cannot just kill them, because of their nature! They are also people with the same feelings, wishes, aims, imagenations. I think everyone has a chance to create family and find own way. We can not deprive them of this chance, because they are also people as we are exclusive of their nature. Moreover, same-sex married gay and lesbian couples can now take advantage of federal tax benefits. For example, creating a "family partnership." This federal tax law allows couples to divide business income among family members, again resulting in big tax savings. From my point of veiw, it is on of the best advantages in our current society.

  • I want to add.

    Yes, that is true that Kazakh people respect their traditions, but it doesn't mean that if same sex people will live together, they will not respect traditions as others. They are same people as we are. If we talk about alcohol and drug it could happen in each family. It doesn't mean nothing. It comes from the family. If the family is good, they have money, parents are working and looking after their children it will not happen. Furthermore, I absolutely agree that our society degrades, but same sex couples are not the reason it is just consequence. There are few reasons of degrades, first, is that people don't have life goals and just waste their time on not important things. Second, is that people don't want to learn something new. Third reason, there is no God inside people anymore. One more question, that should be discuss, who is building this social morals that what is right or wrong? Who is telling this?? Everybody is talking that we are living in the 21 century, people are free, they have a rights of free choice, but where it is?? What is the problem, if gays will live next to you? I totally can say, that everybody just afraid of new things that are coming to our world. We couldn't stop this life progress the only thing we could do is just to accept our world as it is.

  • Gays and lesbians are people too.

    I don't understand at all why there is so much rage in relation to these people. They don't attack on people, don't bite anybody, don't constitute any danger to society. I am against discrimination. They are people as we. They have full authority for love.After all the same-sex relationships are not an illness, but the condition of the person. According to the researches ,discrimination changes behavior of people. If to say to representatives of society again and again that they are less valuable that the are errors of nature , probably they will be less ambitious and will not realize the opportunities neither in life, nor in work. If they want to be together and to establish a strong family why the can not?

  • Gays and lesbians are people too

    I am against discrimination. Gays and lesbians are people too. They same as we. They have full authority for love.The same-sex relationships are not an illness, but the condition of the person.Each person choose the way of his life by himself.If they want to be together and to establish a strong family ,why they can not?Accordin to the researches, discrimination changes behavior of people. If to say to people again and again that they are less valuable that they are errors of society, they probably will be less ambitious and don't realize the opportunities neither in life, nor in work.I don't understand at all why there is so much rage in relation to these people. They don't attack on people, don't bite anybody, don't constitute any danger to society.

  • That's a good point. I also claim that same-sex couples are able exist in Kazakhstan.

    We all can see that world is changing permanently. Of course, it's hard for some people to assume everything. But, step by step, all countries submit the human rights and it is not strange or abnormal for European people to see same-sex couples on the streets. By the way, we all keep European standarts and trying to spred them in every aspect of our life. So, why we should ban same-sex couples? From my point of view, every human have their own rights, and, firstly, the rights for living and making own choice. And according to this, if person want to have the same-sex couple, why we should prohibit it? Obviosly, it's just a choice of every human. Would you like, for example, if all European music become banned because someone claim that it's look like Westernization in Kazakhstan? If you like it and want to listen, why not? So, the same situation is happining with same-sex couples. We can't make a choice for everyone!

  • From my point of view same sex couples is not a weapon of western countries at all.

    Homosexuality is not a disease. So, why we should humiliate people? It is not our business. If people arrange so biological and genetically we couldn't change it. Moreover, by setting new rules, we discriminate their freedom and human rights. People should give them a chance. Who knows, maybe they will build strong families, better than in normal couples. I'm for same sex couples and their legalization in Kazakhstan.

  • It is just law matter.

    Homosexuality has a right to exist. It is proved by many decades, because, despite the fact that many people consider that homosexuality is the new fashion, it has existed since Roman times. Possibly earlier. Even in 342 year were issued decrees on the persecution of homosexuals, so modern fashion is not cause of such deals. According to research by scientist Bruce Beydzhmil homosexual behavior recorded even in the animal world. Scientist mentioned that about 1500 species of animals from primates till worms exposed to homosexual behavior. So sin against nature may no longer be considered. Sigmund Freud himself did not consider homosexuality as an illness. He believed that the comfort of the person in a particular manifestation is more important than the attitude of other people to his view of the world. Person is able to choose nowadays. Choice of religion, work, and hobbies is not limited and it would be foolish to limit someone’s love. Love and desire to start a family is rare among today's youth and if homosexual couples want be together, want to be happy and not afraid to talk about this, we should be on their side. Homosexuals will not go away and disappear. They will next to us. Open or secretly. Marriage is a serious step, and not many people can be happy in this condition. So if homosexuals are these people whose marriage will be long-lasting and happy, government and people have to help them. And finally, imagine that your child was born that way. What would you do with him? Especially, if he found his true love.

  • It is just law matter.

    Homosexuality has a right to exist. It is proved by many decades, because, despite the fact that many people consider that homosexuality is the new fashion, it has existed since Roman times. Possibly earlier. Even in 342 year were issued decrees on the persecution of homosexuals, so modern fashion is not cause of such deals. According to research by scientist Bruce Beydzhmil homosexual behavior recorded even in the animal world. Scientist mentioned that about 1500 species of animals from primates till worms exposed to homosexual behavior. So sin against nature may no longer be considered. Sigmund Freud himself did not consider homosexuality as an illness. He believed that the comfort of the person in a particular manifestation is more important than the attitude of other people to his view of the world. Person is able to choose nowadays. Choice of religion, work, and hobbies is not limited and it would be foolish to limit someone’s love. Love and desire to start a family is rare among today's youth and if homosexual couples want be together, want to be happy and not afraid to talk about this, the we should be on their side. Homosexuals will not go away and disappear. They will next to us. Open or secretly. Marriage is a serious step, and not many people can be happy in this condition. So if homosexuals are the people whose marriage will be long-lasting, government and people have to help them. And finally, imagine that your child was born that way. What would you do with him? Especially, if he found his true love.


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