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Should schools be allowed to kick out HIV positive students?

  • The health and safety of schoolchildren is even more important than their education.

    You have to feel sorry for kids with AIDS; most of them didn’t contract it by promiscuous sexual behaviour (in the case of gay boys) or intravenous drug use (in the case of both sexes).

    No, most of them were just unlucky and either contracted HVI / AIDS through their mothers who were AIDS-carrying drug addicts or prostitutes while they were in the womb or they were raped by paedophile homosexuals.

    Nevertheless, there is no cure for AIDS and school life is all rough and tumble, especially for the boys: just think about blood pacts the members of school gangs make where they each nick their fingers to draw blood and place them together: if just one of them had AIDS he could infect half a dozen boys or more in one go.

    That’s right: it’s far too risky to leave AIDS carriers in normal schools: they should go to schools where all the students have AIDS.

  • HIV transmission: an overview http://www.Catie.Ca/fact-sheets/prevention/hiv-transmission-overview

    You can get HIV during sexual contact, sharing needles, through mucous membranes, and cuts on your body if they come in contact with fluids from someone with HIV, i.E., blood, and semen, vaginal fluid, breast milk. If you had a cut in your mouth, and you kissed someone with HIV and they had a cut in their mouth and HIV blood got into your cut in your mouth, you could get the HIV virus from kissing. It can also be transmitted through mucous membranes. This apparently is very rare, but it would be possible. If an HIV infected child got cut on the playground, and you came in contact with that blood and it got into a cut on your hands or body, you would most likely get HIV too.

    ''HIV transmission: an overview"
    http://www.Catie.Ca/fact-sheets/prevention/hiv-transmission-overview

    If you have TB - tuberculosis you can not go to school until you are cured.

    Even if the odds of catching HIV are remote, these children should be identified, especially in high school where teenagers become very sexually active. I don't want my children going to any schools were they allow HIV infected kids.

    Being politically correct should not outweigh common sense. I think it is unfortunate that these kids got it from their parents.

    But, keep them away from my kids. The only way to do this is to have separate schools for HIV kids.

    What are mucous membranes?

    Mucous membranes are tissues that line the surfaces of body cavities, such as the nostrils, mouth, throat, vagina, urethra, anus and rectum.

    Mucous membranes are moist and in some places secrete mucus that helps to keep out foreign invaders (such as viruses and bacteria).

    Mucous membranes are lined by a thin protective layer of living cells called the epithelium.

    Mucous membranes help protect against germs but, unlike the skin, which is an excellent barrier against germs and many other things that should not be inside our bodies, mucous membranes allow some things to cross into and out of the body. For example, we absorb many nutrients through the mucous membrane in the intestines and colon.

    Below the surface of mucous membranes there are many immune cells, which help to protect the body against possible infections.

    However, because HIV targets and is able to infect immune cells, if HIV enters the body through a mucous membrane, there are lots of immune cells for HIV to infect.

    Is it possible to know accurately the level of risk for HIV transmission?

    It’s possible to have a fairly good sense of the level of risk present in any situation. However, because there is still so much we do not know about HIV transmission, the immune system and the human body, it is not possible to assign an absolute level of risk to any particular act.

    Worldwide, most HIV transmission happens through sex (almost 90%).

    Many known and unknown factors contribute to the risk of someone becoming infected with HIV.
    Http://www.Catie.Ca/fact-sheets/prevention/hiv-transmission-overview

  • Too much risk

    I understand that most of these children didn't contract it through their own actions, but we must consider the worst case scenario when dealing with lethal diseases. If a student with HIV accidentially cuts themselves on a playground or in the classroom, they are exposing hundreds of other children and teachers to HIV. And nurses at these schools are just as exposed as the children, if not more so, and are not specifically trained in dealing with HIV+ first aid. Parents shouldn't have to worry about their kids going to school and getting HIV.

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  • There is a huge problem with the heading, "kick out". How about this, should my child be protected from HIV infection from a HIV+child ?

    Who is responsible for a unlucky case that a child is exposed to HIV from a HIV-positive child?
    Before stating the right, there should be at least guideline how we should charge the responsibility.
    Right now, the family members or the child has the right to conceal their medical problem. That's fine with me. How are you going to justify for the transmission through school activity?
    Is the child get infected responsible?

  • I suppose AIDS is the modern leprosy

    Like leprosy in the past, we have a communicable disease the cure of which is unknown. Lepers were shunned by their communities, although in many respects they received quite a bit of sympathy from others as well.

    While HIV carriers do not need to put up with the overt shaming due to the physical marring that comes with a disease like leprosy, they still face the same issues of it being communicable and incurable, and thus are justifiably quarantined for similar reasons.

  • They deserve an education with everyone else, just on a close watch.

    Things may go wrong, and HIV may, very uncommonly, get transmitted to a classmate. Usually it's through sexual fluids, so there's no worries about that, but one might argue, what about the other ways? Ideally, an HIV-positive student should be on close watch to make sure he doesn't get any cuts that could transmit HIV-positive blood, and probably have a close supply of Band-Aids on hand.

  • They should not.

    Kicking out kids with HIV is ridiculous considering the ways HIV is transmitted. What you must do is make sure the child knows that they cannot show others their blood. No second grader will be able to produce semen, vaginal fluid, or breast milk. They should be allowed in schools.

  • There really is no good reason why

    People who still fear HIV to the point where they dont want to be around positive people are extrmely ignorant. There is a great wealth of knowledge out there that shows you that HIV is one of the most avoidable diseases imaginable if the proper precautions are taking. Don't have sex with someone HIV positive or use a condom. Don't share needles or use uncleaned needles. Don't drink people's breast milk. If you do all this then the chance of you contracting HIV is almost 0.

  • Especially not if its the child's fault.

    Hiv is not spread thru kissing, only thru blood and private parts secretions. Your unlikley to catch hiv thru touching hiv blood with your hand. Students are much more likley to die from contagious illness spreading around via air and surfaces, and more likley to die from school vacinations, than being raped by a class mate. Their is no right to kill someone for haveing a contagious illness. If your child was raped and caught hiv would u want them to be banned from school?

  • HIV Is Not A Death Sentence

    We're talking about HIV, not ebola, or leprosy: a disease communicable only through blood contact or sexual contact even when left untreated, let alone when managed through medication that reduces the quantity of HIV in the blood to zero. Many HIV positive kids, you wouldn't know that they had HIV, to look at them or survey their routine. In conclusion, these kids are just kids, and education will beat out a reactionary stance, 100% of the time.

  • We should support them..!!

    Its absolutely absurd to throw out such students from the schools. HIV does not spread by touching or just talking to them. It spreads only when there is a physical intercourse or receiving blood from HIV patients which, i think, is not possible in schools. Therefore it is meaningless to reject these students from the knowledge source. In fact, instead of obliging them to leave the school, we should support them. Its not there fault then why should they bear this?? Spending some time with them,sharing lunch boxes (no harm in doing this) will only feel them happy..

  • Ridiculous idea concept

    There is really no reason for this to happen... They have the same rights as anyone no matter what disease they may have, especially one they can't spread unless they are reckless anyway, which would give them cause to kick them out. Kicking out students for this would be like kicking out people for having cancer.

  • That would be Outrageous!

    It would contradict the fundamental right of a pupil. Right to education is one of the primary needs and requirements that the society must fulfill to a fellow human being, irrespective of any of the discriminatory practices. It would be acceptable to bar a student temporarily, from attending school if he/she contracts a contagious diseases like flu.
    Banning students on the basis of a disease, for which they are not even vaguely the reason themselves, is absurd and inhumane. They must be allowed equal opportunities just like any other kid.

  • There is No Scientific/Medical Basis for Doing So

    HIV/AIDS can only be transmitted through bodily fluids, and there have been no cases of transmission in schools thus far in the disease's history. If there is an HIV-positive child who wants to attend the school, they should absolutely be able to, since there's pretty much no risk of transmission. Perhaps the school will need to enforce policies on not sharing food or drinks to prevent the almost zero percent chance of exchange of the disease through saliva, but there is no basis for schools to not allow children to attend due to their HIV-positive status or to restrict their education in any way.

  • No,schools should not be allowed to kick out HIV positive students.

    No,schools should not be allowed to kick out HIV positive students.If they make this decision they would be setting a bad example for other students because that would be teaching that discrimination is good and that diversity is not valued.There is also the legal ramification that might occur if a school just decides to kick out a student.


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