You Scotts take all England's money and dish it out in benefits... Maybe England would be better off with out you! I wonder if once they become independent, if after a few years they'll realize that snuggling in the bosom of England wasn't so bad after all. Although independence is fun and life changing its always easier to live at home with mum who does all the washing and cooking. Scotland will be as broke as Spain (and England) if they venture out on their own. Good luck and good riddance.
We are fed up with England thinking they are best. England is nothing without Scotland. England is just scared they are running out of money and don't think Scotland will help them! Freedom will be ours one day and that will be the greatest day in history! Come on Scotland, make the right choice and vote yes to independence!
Yes to independence, that is if the Scots want it and their decision is well informed and not just weighted towards Salmond's propaganda. Then I say good riddance to them. Bye bye Scotland.. Maybe then we English can have free university, free prescriptions, and all the other perks that the "evil and oppressive" Westminster chose to give you.
I would absolutely love to see Scotland go it alone, so long as they take their impressive share of the national debt with them and give up everything that comes with being British (currency, bail outs, public services, military technology, etc)... which lets face it, I bet they won't.
If Scotland went independent then fingers crossed we wouldn't have to hear how evil the English are all the time from whiny and scarily right-winged Braveheart fans. And the irony? That it's socially acceptable to publicly express hatred of the English, to be sanctimonious and wave the Saltire, but should anyone dare complain about the Scots, or even be proud of Great Britain's achievements, then they're labeled the xenophobe! If England's so bad, why do so many Scots live down there?
And I must just say that yes we know there isn't currently a Scotsman leading the union, thankfully, because the last one that did shafted all of us so hard that we'll be trying to recover from it for some time yet.
Be very careful what you wish for, Scotland. If you do go independent, there are many who think it should be a one way deal, no coming back. No more money. It'll be a sad day if the union is broken up, but at the end of the day, some people just cannot see sense no matter how hard you try to convince them - they're just too blinded by the moral substance of Mel Gibson and his wholly inaccurate depiction of 13th century British history.
Scotland more than pays her way in the UK. We get 9.3% of UK spending, but contribute 9.6% of UK
taxes. We are in a stronger financial position than the rest of the UK, to the tune of £510 per person last
year - that’s over £1000 for each Scottish household. As an independent country, this money would
stay in Scotland.
4. Scotland already pays for all the government services we need as an independent country - we don’t
have to start from scratch. However, the money will be spent in Scotland, rather than London, creating
thousands of Scottish jobs.
If the English peoples really knew about what goes on in Scotland they would not be so quick to condemn Scottish Independence. There are of course many reasons that they want Scots to stay in the Union, however, there is a lack of what is actually good for Scots.
In 1979 Scotland held a referendum on Independence, and by democratic standards they won it.
However, a late change in the voting system by a labour Westminster MP. All who did not vote were taken as a NO vote, and yes this included the recent dead!
Scots were Royally cheated, what would the English have said if it had been them?
Scots have been constantly been considered as benefit junkies and the like, and are heavily subsidised by Westminster.
Figure now prove, it is certainly NOT the case, Scots pay more than their share of tax revenues and actually get less back.
We should be a rich country, we are not, we have ever more poor roads, and generally poor infrastructure.
In an Independent country this will be a priority to be addressed, it is not going to happen within the Union, who are content in keeping Scots down.
Taxes from our shoreline go to Westminster unlike other parts of the UK.
We also have many area's that would shine more with Independence, more exports, more agriculture, more renewable energy, more fishing industry. It goes on.
We would no longer have our soldiers die in illegal wars.
We no longer would have Trident within 30 miles of our major population and city of Glasgow. Note Westminster does not want Trident down there, but as usual it is ok if Scots are at risk.
So, no, Scots are not too wee, not too weak, nor too stupid. Independence will lead to a Scotland the rUK can learn from.
There is no doubt that we also seek to be close friends with our neighbours, any bad feeling in Scotland is directed at Westminster politicians not the peoples of England, Wales or N. Ireland.
However, the right to form our own future is undeniable, and it is something the doubters should think of. It is called democracy, something that is becoming more desirable to everyone in the Uk, if not Westminster.
Scotland deserves a chance to be free from Great Britain as so many other nearby lands are. Scotland will likely flourish economically if it is allowed to govern itself.
While they have been a part of the United Kingdom for a long time, Scotland should not be stopped from becoming an independent nation. This decision does not take into account how well they would survive as an independent nation, only that they should be allowed to do so. There really is no reason to stop any state of any country from becoming its own nation unless by so doing the whole of the remainder of the nation would be destroyed.
I love Scotland and I hate being referred to as 'British.' I understand that obviously I am, but when good things happens Its all praise to Britain, whereas when something bad happens its Scotland's fault, for example Andy Murray. We will get bankrupt, I mean let's be real here! There will be no relying on other countries, no tuition fees, no pensions, no post offices, etc. Oil will last to max of 30 years, independent is for life, not till hyper inflation starts and nobody can afford anything! I'm 15 years old but I know a lot about what's going on.
Scotland is an idea, like America is. Having a political center will be unpopular, as much as the last time when the Lords had to sneak into the hall to sign documents in the middle of the night to become part of London and company. However small local governments are more accountable to their people and more inclined to do what they say.
There are ten times as many folk in England. They often vote in a way we do not support. We end up getting what they chose by virtue of nothing more than mathematics. This democratic deficit leads to Scotland being regionalized as a people and an economy, to a devaluing of ourselves, and social inequality at the 4th worst in Europe. This is corrosive to our identity and culture. Scotland needs true democracy and the responsibility that comes with it, and that's just not possible in the U.K.
We need to freed from the stranglehold of Westminster. It has been proven we would be financially better off allowing us to build the Scotland of the future we all deserve. Less tax, more money in our pockets and more jobs on home soil. Let's get behind the 'Yes' campaign and get Scotland and its people moving forward, together, as a new and bold nation!
Look at other small Nations in Europe; Belgium and Denmark for example. If they can produce enough to keep a stable country then we should be able to do the same. We are in a better state than most other countries who have gone independent in the past so why is it we are not able to?
I have personally not seen a decent argument where we do not.
Scotland must become an independent country because being in the uk is to expensive, we give too much to the queen in tax and we to pay the bills the English government has. If Scotland became independent then we would get so much more money. Aberdeen is the oil capital of the world, we found a new oil reserve worth billions and we also have are whiskey tourism. We also have gotten protection from China and Russia as they are backing us up. If you ask me we are ready and we should come independent sooner then later
Alex Salmond is a world leading economist. Do you not think he has a shadow government already waiting in the wings to take over with his experience in the financial world? He is the man who has been waiting on this his whole life. The scaremongering from Westminister, why is there so much, if the plans for independence are so lame? Does the Scottish person feel they are being short changed? Reading on the Scottish government website, the new council tax reduction scheme to take place on April 1st, is being subsidised by the savings in the Scottish coffers, so the money that has been reduced in council tax benefits from Westminister, will not affect the ordinary Scot person. But in England, the reduction on budgets to each council will have to be found by taxing the residents more council tax, calculated at about 10% under budget. So if you pay 1000 quid council tax, you will have to pay another 100 quid on top cause of the shortfall in money from Westminister! A benefit of a devolved Scottish government. We don't pay prescription charges, get free education. There are more benefits that everyone else talks about, the list is endless. Westminister is scared that Scotland becomes autonomous. In fact, they will abolish the Scottish Parliament after the vote if they win the NO vote, saying the people of Scotland didn't want independence, let's just go back to square one. No devolved Scotland, they voted no so they will pull the Scottish parliament down, devolve it all back to Westminister. All MPs etc here in Scotland will be out of a job. It will go back to there being just a Secretary of State for Scotland making all decisions relating to Scotland. Die hard Labour supporters I know have said they will vote YES as they are fed up with the present regime. The triad party consisting of the Con/Dems/Labour party all amalgamating into one now. Think again Scotland, even English people wish they lived here to get an opportunity to get away from the present political system they are forced to live in.......your future is in your hands!
To think that Scotland’s only means of revenue is oil and gas is ridiculous. Scotland has a diverse economic base, every bit as vibrant as most small nations and to think other wise is plain ignorance. Oil and gas are mere bonuses and would ensure a means of boosting our economy in the initial stages of independence. Of course, Scotland as a member state of the United Kingdom has increased influence on the world stage, but to regain the status of being a sovereign country, as opposed to a state within a country, has it’s benefits too. Employment would be increased as a result of rebuilding our armed forces and shipbuilding would be a beneficiary of independence with Scotland’s need for a navy and fishery protection element. Conscription would almost certainly be a given, at least in the first few years, but that wouldn't be a bad thing either, given unemployment figures at present. I could rattle off a few more examples. It’s not all doom and gloom for us Scots if we choose that path. We will face some pitfalls but far from the price we paid the last time we wanted independence, on the fields of Bannockburn. England and the rest of the United Kingdom have a lot more to fear from the dismantling of the Union than Scotland, especially with diminished influence in world politics and the possible loss of their position on the Security Council at the UN. Where do they plan to site their new nuclear deterrent if Scotland goes it alone?. They'll probably scrap it so that puts their position in NATO at risk. That's called austerity because they wont have the North Sea Jewel to bolster their economy. Scotland can be reborn again if only they can show some bravery and take some pride in being truly free from the parasites in Westminster.
England send far more to Scotland in aid than we ever recieve in tax returns. This would easily pay the consequences of seperation with Scotland and more. All the SNP do is vote against matters that only involve England and Wales (and sometimes Ireland) to try and distance themselves from English MP's. Financially the move would benefit both nations.
English are the most crafty, phony, greedy, shifty creatures god has ever created. They have been ruining our nation's spirit and roots as well as Ireland's over the last several hundred of years! Do u still remember the great famine? Do u still remember William Wallace's death? We are not slaves thus we don't need to be represented by another race ! Rise up my fellow Scots!
I, like many English people, would hope that the Scots vote for independence, else this argument will go on for ever. I look forward to visiting an Independent Scotland with the British pound, our Queen as head of state, no need for a passport to "visit". I look forward to seeing Scotland prosper as "The EUs largest oil and gas producer" and Scottish Whiskey exporter. I just hope they don't run into trouble if the oil and gas runs out. I'm also a bit concerned that the Scots may have underestimated the debts they may owe as part of 12.2 billion pound bail out of the Royal Bank of Scotland. Its very lucky for the Scots that they were not independent at the time with a mere 124 billion GDP. (Compared to England's 1 Trillion, 430 Billion GDP) I also look forward to visiting a non-nuclear state, it's unfortunate that lots of Scots will lose their jobs to obtain the non-nuclear status though. I also look forward to the English Parliament being representative of only England, and remove the somewhat embarrassing spectacle of the Scottish parliamentarians voting on English matters. And finally,just think we may at last be able to play football against each other again without Scotland's finest supporters trying to get revenge for Culloden !!
Scotland is a just a vacuum that sucks money from the prosperous country of England. The fact Scotland would not be able to keep the pound as their currency would force them into the euro, causing them to turn out like Greece. Soon England will be bordering a third world country.
It's a question of self respect and maturity: a nation that doesn't want to make decisions for itself would be an object of pity and ridicule, domestically and internationally. London in particular would interpret a No vote to really go to town on Scotland. They're hardly likely to hand over our oil reserve or corporation tax if Scotland tells the world we're happy to be spoken for by others.
The vicious cuts on the vulnerable people of this country, by a Westminster government we did not vote for, are a clear indication that Holyrood and Westminster are following completely different paths. The only way to protect the people of Scotland from the evil machinations of Westminster is to ensure that decisions about Scotland are made in Scotland.
If the Scottish people start charging Britain for their natural resources eg: gas, oil etc, that Britain has been enjoying at their expense in the past , the future of Scotland wil become a country of high wealth, healthcare , education, and envied by the rest of Europe and the world. Vote and enjoy!
I think Scotland should become an independent country because we will be better off than if we stayed with the UK. I hope Scotland becomes independent in the future. We do not need a Tory running our country with his Conservative ways. To all the Scots out there please vote independence. Thank you and goodbye.
It should become an independent nation, because it could be very rich! This would make them extremely rich and rich and rich and rich and rich and rich. So if they became rich, then the education would be better and therefore this would make them a stronger country. And they should be!
We have no control over who governs our country, Scotland's people's votes don't count in a general election - you only have to look at what government is in power at the moment to know that's true, as is said often "Scotland has more Panda's than it does Tory MP's!"
Scotland has a lot to offer the world & not just is oil. We are world leaders in many fields, have one of the worlds best education systems & has a result produce some of the worlds smartest people.
I also strongly believe that those publishing scaremongering story's should be held accountable for their blatant lies in a court of law.
I'll point out that by True I mean Not Immigrated, not that there's anything wrong with immigrants they just don't understand these things in the same way.
Now, I don't want to sound like some kind of English hating *hurr durr Scottish pride* type person and the past is certainly in the past. And I'll also admit that I don't really understand politics and revenue all that much either.
But I am Scottish damn it, and even I can see that the UK Is leeching of Scottish resources and I don't even really pay attention to such things. It's really just THAT obvious what is going on here.
Vote for Independence? I guarantee that even if the vote was in favor of Scottish independence that it would be rigged in some way against such an outcome. Face it we may need to go the Northern Ireland route on this one, people only seem to respond to violence anyway.
All countries have the democratic right to govern themselves. The Union was imposed from above ignoring the fact that in Scotland parliament is subservient to the people. Would you willingly give your wages, goods and chattels to your neighbour, who then gives you spending money that you can only spend as they direct, and who then goes on to characterise you as a whining freeloader living off their largesse. Far better to run your own affairs for the good of your own.
We have literally no say in the politics of our country (9% of the parliamentary MP's are Scottish) and from that you can easily show that the majority of the politicians in our country do not have Scotland at their hearts and in their best interests. I don't understand why people are saying the NHS will fail in Scotland if we go independent, have you not seen the news? The NHS is pretty much struggling nationally so why should it make a difference if we become our own state? Scotland will be better off on it's own with no nuclear weapons that we never wanted and a say in its own parliament. Becoming independent currently is too good a chance to lose and give up on for another decade or two.
Take for example former countries as Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia and Countries of Former Soviet Union, all of them have independence and they grow as each individual state with their problems and with their pride and they can say, I'm Czech, I'm Slavac, I'm Ukranian, and I would be happy to see people who will say, I'm Scot from Scotland and I'm responsible for the Present and Future of my very old and very young country!
Scotland's votes in Westminster count for nothing. If the Scottish vote were removed from all general elections for the past 100 years, the outcomes would all have remained the same. Lets have an independent scotland where all our votes matter and we can all have a say in the future of scotland.
England have continued to take advantage of scotland's resources. Despite devolution, Scotland are still limited with powers due to reserved powers in Westminster which has ultimately resulted in the inability to make certain decisions. Scotland need to take a stance for itself and look into the future as an independent country. We need our independence from england, and should follow in the footsteps of countries such as India, the USA and Jamaica. It is for the better.
Just because Scotland would be independent doesn't mean we would become smaller. It actually means we would have a bigger place in the world. An independent study showed Scotland would be the 8th richest country in the world per head of population. We have things like oil, wind power and wave power as well as a big tourism industry that we make 3 billion pounds from annually.
I know it was 700 years ago but if our ancestors who fought and died for our independence could see the no voters now they would be ashamed. And for anyone who says that the yes campaign has not answered their questions there is a white paper being published on 26th November 2013
As a person of royal Scottish decent (son of Leod; the clan McLeod, descending from Magnus; the last king of Mann), this would be a great relief for me and others in my position. I am being forced to maintain my U.S. Citizenship because of the U.K. And their "political red-tape." The U.K. Keeps telling me that I have been removed from "British" decent for too long (4 generations). I keep telling them that I have never been British, I am Scottish and always have been. They have no right telling me (and others) that I cannot move back to my home country.
Britain is arguably founded on extremely undemocratic ideologies. For example, 26 seats in the house of lords (a senior committee which amends and passes laws) are taken up by bishops purely because they're members of the church of England. The Scottish parliament has a much more democratic system, which does not reserve places for church members and uses a proportional electoral system for appointing members of parliament. Becoming independent would therefore arguably be a step for democracy.
Also In becoming independent, we'd need to integrate ourselves more heavily with Europe. There are plans by independence parties here to set up ties with Nordic countries such as Norway and Denmark. Adopting a Nordic political model would arguably be more beneficial for Scotland, which traditionally and politically has more in common with Nordic countries than with England.
1. There are more pandas in Scotland than Tory MSP. Why should we be dictated to by a party we have rejected for decades?
2. Scotland is rich in resources- most importantly oil & fish.
3. You could argue that Scotland leans more left wing - policies looking after the poor, sick & elderly instead of hounding them- while England leans more right (Tories, rise of UKIP and BNP), This of course is a generalisation.
4. Contrary to the common argument that we are subsidised by the rest of the UK, this is not the case. Scotland pays more in than it gets out
Many more reasons, but aye vote Yes in 2014 for an independent, more equal, diverse Scotland.
At the moment, Scotland is ran by a Tory government that the majority of Scots did not vote for. Until we have independence we will never live in a fair society. Every country should have the right to make it's own decisions. Also the Act of Union 1707 was never voted for by the public, the people of Scotland rioted after it was passed. This in itself gives it a very shaky standing indeed.
The scaremongering tactics that the oil is running out has been going on since Margaret Thatcher was in power. According to her, I think we should probably have ran out by now. I'm pretty sure that they are still discovering new oil at the moment. The fact of the matter is that many companies are making huge profits from Scottish products, and I mean HUGE! Take the whisky industry for example. To quote the SWA, "Scotch Whisky exports are now Scotland's largest international export ahead of refined petroleum (£3.0 billion) and business services (£2.5 billion). Scotch Whisky has underpinned Scotland's international export markets overtaking refined petroleum in 2009 and accounting for 55% of growth since 2002." How much does Scotland actually benefit from this? Probably very little, as many of the whisky companies are owned by foreigners! The whisky market is booming and the multi-national giants have barely scratched the surface of the developing markets still out there. As technology improves, even the employment that these companies bring to Scotland is diminishing. The taxes on exports such as these should be paid directly to Scotland, not Westminster, and we should seriously be thinking about creating new ones to make these companies pay for using the most precious ingredient in the brand that makes them rich... our water!
Scotland will stand on its own very easily by breaking away and becoming independent. It would attract more people. I do not believe that it would need the E.U. or the U.N. either. It could make it's own money. NATO would also not need to give assistance. Scotland would help stop an unfair one world government.
1707 was the day England bribed Scotland into signing the Union Treaty. The common Scot did not want a Union back then & we don't want it now. Now we have the chance we never had back then..a vote! There is no benefit in being part of a "United Kingdom". Should there not be more than one Monarchy to be called a United Kingdom? It's just a phrase used by Westminster to keep a strangle hold over us. I am not British, I am Scottish. Furthermore, it is nonsense to have our independence and still have a foreign queen be our head of state..madness! The SNP will not be the party to rule Scotland, Salmond will be voted out and the Queen of England removed as head of state. Take the Duke of Edinburgh with her!
Scotland generality votes for a different government with different values to the one which ends up in Westminster. With independence wer would get the government we vote for allowing Scotland to be built in our own image by a government with the policies we voted for. The union does not serve Scotland's needs, we can show a better way.
Reading the arguments why Scotland should not be independent you understand that basically those arguments don't exist.
The argument supporting independence is that the money made in Scotland from resources will serve Scotland and increase the living standards in Scotland (which are now in decline). The whole idea of Scotland's future being decided by Scottish people makes a lot of sense!
What arguments do we see against independence?
"Scotland was in the UK for centuries", so what? Denmark and Finland were part of Sweden for centuries, Ukraine was part of Russia for centuries, what's your point?
"Independence will start riots like in Northern Ireland", not really. The situation in Northern Ireland is different from the situation in Scotland. Were there any riots in Free Ireland after getting independence? No. Same case in Scotland!
"We live in a big world where small economies get eaten by big economies", go tell that to Singapore and Norway. Big economy doesnt mean big territory, at least not today. Instead of sharing the profits of it's resources with the UK Scotland will have it all!
Whenever the Tories win the elections the amount of people in Scotland wanting to be part of the UK goes down. The reason is because most people in Scotland don't support capitalistic policies which damage the life standard of the average person while serving the rich. Scotland has resources which will allow Scotland to join other North European countries to have the highest living standards in Europe. Right now the resources in Scotland are serving Scotland less while the rest of the UK more which doesnt really make sense to a Scottish person!
We have been downtrodden and forced to live to the rules of the English for hundreds of years. We (the Scottish), need freedom now, not in 1 year or 100 years. We had our own country before and it should be the same once again. It is time to be free once more. Scotland has such a great heritage and are a very proud, brave nation. We can still live in harmony with the rest of the UK but it is certainly time to rise and be a nation AGAIN.
As a strong exporting country we can afford the standard of living that we want, the option to make our own decisions more a driving force than wealth alone. Improving relations with other global nations fighting for our own corner. One of the most important, removing trident from Scottish waters and hopefully resulting in the Westminster government opting not to move ahead with the replacement of this system.
Our brightest have always been forced to go south to get challenge and experience by working in England and abroad. Without a massive increase in confidence and investment in Scotland it will remain extremely hard for our own to get back home and continue with worthwhile careers which in turn will lead to a major development of Scotland's confidence and population engagement. The only way to kickstart that confidence and investment is via Independence.
All arguments are in favor of Scottish independence. Our clean energy potential could allow us to become a nation which absolutely no reliance on oil for power and lead the world as a standard for a greener world.
Secondly, since we could have no reliance on it for power, we could export our massive oil reserves and become an extremely wealthy nation, and yes, oil doesn't last forever, but the money we make from it could be used for investment in infrastructure which does last.
Lastly, we would no longer need to waste such vast amounts of money on defense. An independent Scotland would have no business in the middle east and could get the UK's Trident nuclear warheads (which we currently pay for, by the way!) our our waters. The UK may still be caught up in the idea that it has to prove to the world it's not just a shadow of its former self, but we aren't that childish.
Overall, it just makes sense. All the evidence points towards voting 'yes' in 2014 so why wouldn't you?! The only reason I can think of would be if you feel some intense emotional bond to the union despite the fact it brings us nothing.
With 86 new oil fields having been found in November with an estimated 1.5 trillion pound worth of recoverable oil there has never been a better time for the referendum to come about. Oil however is not the only reason for Scotland's independence. Scotland is one of the cultural capitals of the world bringing in millions every year. We are world leaders in renewable energy. Our universities are among the oldest and most prestigious in the world. We as a people pay more tax than the English despite having less than half the population of London. per head in scotland we would be almost 1600 pound better off if we were outside of the UK. It annoys me when the people in my school classes give the usual argument of we're nothing without oil Scotland is the only country that has been brainwashed by a "free press" into submission. look at the figures look at the facts. use the freedom of information act to your full advantage, I have and I have deduced that an independent Scotland is better for my future and my fellow country mens future. I look forward to the day we are Independent
We do not have democracy (eg one tory mp returned from Scotland, yet we essentially have a tory government with tory PM and chancellor), the union itself was not even a democratic act. We need to be able to decide which path we will follow, what kind of nation we want to be and how we want to place ourselves in a global context. Not as the mugs that get lumbered with WMD ! Independence will bing self respect, self confidence and a greater sense of purpose. An opportunity to be purveyors of peace, equality, engineering and innovation.
The Kingdom of Great Britain was conceived out of the notion that one monarch of two realms might as well rule those realms jointly in one greater realm; with the powerful English Parliament heading this government. This could be considered the beginning of British Imperialism; which has long since been disestablished. It seems logical that it has finally come time for Englands first imperialist nation state to rule in its own right, just as the African nations have. Holding onto nostalgic historical philosophies can only hurt the Scottish-English futures. It obviously true the Scotts English share an unbreakable bond, but they are still different people with different cultures and political aspirations. This is from the opinion of a student of history living outside of the United Kingdom.
Having personally and successfully made the business case to a number of leading international companies for corporate relocation, it is clear that the current UK fiscal model, which is based on London as the heart of UK business is damaging to the UK growth potential. This model aims to protect London as the heart of the UK economy based on the London contribution to the GDP as more than 50%. Whilst this is true, depending on location within London and the particular business sector, some companies pay up to 4 times the operational overhead that the same company would face if based in Glasgow or Edinburgh and much more if based in Aberdeen, Dundee or Inverness. Although this may be primarily a matter of profit loss of concern to shareholders, this failing represents billions of lost revenue to the GDP. The rest of the UK needs this revenue badly and it deprives Scotland of realising a GDP in proportion to generated revenues.
I feel that Scotland has a unique culture and should be its own nation. Of course this is not the only reason I have for wanting independence for them. I feel that smaller democracies work much more efficiently and reflect the people's will much better. I also see this as a step towards Irish unity, which I believe will help further end what violence is left in the North. I also think Wales should be independent. I Just honestly believe smaller states work better a lot of the time, both democratically and economically. The culture is better preserved as well, I think.
but that isn't to say it was ever a monarchy. Historically, Scotland was taken its rightful owners, and neither economy nor security was on the table in exchange (only imperialism). When America declared indepedence, it was not about what was economically feasible; in fact many people opposed American independence, because they were afraid of the responsibilities.
Who in their right mind would want to give control of all their money and power over to their parents. That's right no-one. Therefore why anyone would consider voting against this to let an uninterested governing body control Scotlands wealth and power is beyond me. It's time for Scotland to stand on it's own two feet and leave home !
I'm an English citizen living in London, and therefore I might have my reasons as to why Scotland shouldn't leave the UK, but Scottish people seem to want to go. It's all down to the upcoming referendum on whether Scotland should leave the UK or not. It's their choice, not ours.
I am English but I used to live in Aberdeen in Scotland. It is beautiful country the Scots are a very proud people – as they should be – and if they decide in a referendum that they should become independent from the rest of the UK then London would have to respect their decision.
I hope they don’t decide to become independent though – I am a Labour supporter and many Labour MP’s have their constituencies in Scotland while the Tories have no seats north of the border – so if Scotland no longer sent MP’s to Westminster, it would become much harder for Labour to win General Elections in the future.
I agree that Scotland should become a sovereign state because:
I believe that people are governed best by their peers and as close to home as possible.
I believe that Westminster has largely become irrelevant to Scots and is an expensive and unnecessary level of government.
I believe that independence will demonstrate a transformative enabling effect on the people of Scotland.
I believe that Independence will enfranchise the people of Scotland, endowed with the creativity, ingenuity and enthusiasm, to work for a fairer and more prosperous future.
Scotland should be independent to be able to use our resources for our benefit and to our values. It should our values, our problems, our mistakes and our solutions.
There is NO promise that Westminster can make that would eclipse the massive opportunity that independence would give Scotland. While we have stood still, as a forgotten backwater in the UK, handing over our seas and resources and our people to any war Westminster deems important, our neighbours in Norway have amassed a $300BN oil fund which underwrites their entire country, their research and their pensions.
Scotland has a fund of: £0.00
We do however have; Victorian railway, slow broadband, rickety potholed roads, and 1 in 5of our children below the poverty line.
We also have the privilege of weapons of mass destruction, parked right next to our largest population centre...A 'independent' nuclear deterrent supplied by and maintained by the US.
This also comes with the added benefit of a estimated £100BN price tag over the life of the replacement of Trident. Weapons of mass destruction, more important to the UK government than the kids in poverty and the hundreds of our elderly who will die this winter from the cold!!!
The estimated revenue from the North sea oil and gas alone, or the next 12 months: An estimated £40M PER DAY!! We receive £0.00 of this each year!
As for the argument of national security that being a part of the UK will protect us... FROM WHOM?? Belgium? In the guise of illegal wars and the terrorist menace, the UK government has spent BILLIONS and we have lost hundreds of troops.
A MUCH cheaper option is to realise the UK is no longer a world super power and we have no right spending billions on policing the world while our children live in povery, our elderly die of the cold, our disabled are demeaned and forced to work by a company charging at least £40M a year and thousands are made unemployed due, directly to the actions of bankers who were bailed out and are receiving bonuses!!
The UK Government is a disgrace! Squeezing the poor to bail out the rich. They have stated that if Scotland is daft enough to vote NO then there will be NO MORE POWERS for us.
Scottish government policies are all aimed at helping the people of Scotland, not fattening the movers and shakers in London... We need to take this opportunity and ensure the referendum is the beginning of Scots, making decisions for Scotland that works for the people of Scotland, not letting our resources prop up the South East of Scotland!! Saor Albe
I do think that scotland should become an independent nation. I think that every place should become their own independent nation. This is because they can finally make their own decisions. Also they can have their own government, which is very rewarding to the country. So therefore i do believe they should.
Scotland is in part a piece of the Irish way of life and is a maintained country and should be just like every other country independent. It has its own system and law and should be free from being controlled by another region which it is surrounded by. Scotland has a lot of its own values that help it to be see as its own place of self-expression.
Yes, Scotland should try to become an independent nation. It would boost their national pride and possibly their economic status. It would raise their profile in the EU also for trade, commercial and political purposes. One should consider their history and look at similar historical instances and the relative advantages or disadvantages of declaring independence. What could they stand to gain? It could provide them autonomy or it could alienate them from the rest of the British isles. It would strengthen their identity but one must also consider the reasons for doing this and likely positive and negative outcomes.
I believe that Scotland should become an independent nation If and only if it has the resources to prosper in today's times. Also, any nation has the right to become independent if they meet the criteria of making an own nation, like the people, currency is already decided for. America for example became an independent nation too.
I'm Sudanese, I think Scotland is Capable of ruling it's own government, and provide basic national security, we have been ruled for a long time now it's the right time for a change
The Union has ran its course but now us Scots are fed up being ruled by a right wing Tory government who by the way have never had a mandate in Scotland considering the lack of seats held here by the Tory party, the Labour party both sides of the border has lost its metal and offers us Scots nothing but empty promises, we have plentiful resources to be a successful nation and as for our national security we have some of the best trained soldiers in the world and a conventional army in our small country would be all we need, England can take their trident nuclear weapons from Scottish waters 'we never wanted them'
Scotland has a rich culture that should be viewed separate from other nations. I believe that all countries in the UK should be independent of each other, and the UK considered a region, much like New England in the US. Scotland, Wales, Great Britain, and Ireland (both Northern and Southern) are, in my view, separate national entities.
Governments are intended to serve and represent the people. If the people of Scotland desire to be recognized as an independent nation, then the will of the people should prevail. They operate as an independent nation and there is no reason they should not be recognized as such by England and the world.
Several nations have become independent nations with a history of great success. The United States and Ireland are two great examples. Scotland appears capable of running their own government and should not be managed as a land estate from London. It is time Scotland sever its ties with England, return to independence and control its own destiny.
You see this all throughout history. When people want to be free and have the capability of governing themselves over a period of time, they should be let free. Doing so will ease tension among the countries and avoid a conflict. Scotland is a very developed nation, so I believe that if they want to be independent, the UK should let them go.
Being a Scottish Canadian, it makes me irate to even think that the limey's ever had any authority over Scotland. Scotland was oppressed for hundreds of years by the Brits, and enough is enough. The UK is nothing more an antique and its time for us proud Scots to take back our individuality and become 100% SCOTTISH again with the absence of limey influence. But this must be a decision of every Scottish citizen! There should be a referendum held so that the vote of the people decides, not the elected officials.
yes scotland can rise again and be the nation it once was working together as one with pride and working to banish poverty that the english goverments have bestowed on us over the last hundred or so years
The English have been in control of Scotland, basically creating a system of taxation without representation for the people of Scotland. Every country should be able to make its own legal, monetary and societal decisions. The people of Scotland have a right to establish their own history, separate from the control of another country.
Scotland has a definite culture that makes the people who live there a distinct group from other groups that reside in the United Kingdom. No group of people should be subjected to the rule of their neighbors unless they willingly consent to it, and if they choose to pursue independence then should have the right to do so.
Obviously, Scotland has the resources to become an independent nation. Although closely associated with England, it has an identity and history of its own. I imagine there are many people in the world who already believe it is an independent country. Scotland has traditions that are purely Scottish and they should be allowed to govern themselves so as to allow their Scottish heritage to be preserved separate from other countries.
Decisions made that affect the people of Scotlandd should be made by the people of Scotland, not by those who have chosen who should run theirs. Scotland has its own parliament and all decisions for our country should be made there. No more taxes and cuts imposed by a government we didn't elect. No more decisions by politicians out of touch with the Scottish population, on where our generated wealth is spent. No more nuclear warheads on our shores, no more illegal wars where our soldiers are sent to fight and die so that "Britain" can flex its muscles trying to look as if it's some almighty global power not to be toyed with. No more plundering of resources to pay for duck ponds, bird houses, caviar and champagne at the expense of investment in services. We, the people of Scotland will make those decisions and I would welcome those who want to move north of the border to join our independent nation.
Scotland is a country and should run its own affairs. That way, the islands of Great Britain will have the government's people voted for and arguments about cross-border money will be finished. Scotland and England are two very different places. If England wants to keep WMD they are at liberty to do so, but they won't be allowed in Scotland and we certainly cannot afford to waste money on such foolish projects. YES for me all the way. Its such a logical choice
No one else is going run Scotland better than the people who live here! Decline has been our lot for - decades! Talent and Money has poured down to the City State of London for too long - now we know we can do better so let's do it - lets get hope and aspiration back to our Young People. No more Educate - to Emigrate, Vote YES.
No unionist party would ever give Scotland a vote on Independence they tried to rig the Hollywood Parliament to make sure it never happened, but they forgot one thing - the people. They say they will fight tooth and nail to keep us, but we hear nothing but lies. And darn lies, at that.
Anything is better than what we have. Westminster looks after London. The further away from London the worse it gets. I am yet to hear a benefit from the Yes Campaign. The better together have no argument apart from, they are voting No because they are banned from singing football songs.
Scotland needs to be set free so we can build a better place without Westminster holding us back. We are doing better than down south with some power and I can see us doing even better with full control of our own affairs and build a future for our families.
I think Scotland would be in a better state if we were independent, as Scotland would be run by people living in Scotland and the decisions made would effect the government and there families as they live here.
We should be a country known as Scotland not as country called Scotland when we aren't in control of decisions as Westminster makes these decisions for use that they don't care about as they aren't being effected by it as they don't live here.
I SAY WE STICK TOGETHER AS A NATION
Too many to display but having put in over 400 hours of research into the YES or no vote. It's opened my eyes and now I can see what is really been going on.
Some people live in the world of mystery, it's better to be in the know and know what is going on around you.
The people of Scot land call themselves Scottish, not 'United Kingdomers'. I believe the people of Scotland have the right of self determination whether or not they are ready or not to become their own independent nation. As with the people of Ireland & Wales call themselves Irish & Welsh, they know they are not British and have a very different culture than the British, as the Scottish due with the British. They have been under the British government for at least 600 years. If the people of Scotland want their freedom of their own nation under governance of other Scottish they deserve it.
An Independent Scotland would act much more humanely on the geopolitical stage. The redirection of taxpayers money from the military could help to fund many important social projects that would improve the lives of Scottish people as opposed to destroying the lives of those in the Arabian gulf unfortunate enough to be born on top of vast quantities of oil. It is no surprise that most of those lending public support for the No campaign have financially prospered in a U.K. led Scotland . At some stage humanity has to take precedence over economics then we can shape the world instead of the world shaping us .Vote yes and get your chisel out
1. Are you content that for the last 30 years your countries’ actions and the use of your money has been decided by Margaret Thatcher, John Major, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Nigel Lawson, Norman Lamont, Alistair Darling, George Osborne, Geoffrey Howe, Douglas Hurd, Jack Straw, Margaret Beckitt, David Milliband and William Hague?
2. Are you content that their creeds have been:- there is no such thing as Society: it is OK to be economical with the truth: it’s cool to be filthy rich- and to see these put into practice by cuddling-up and seeking favours from media magnates, giving your money to fat cat bankers to ensure they retain their mighty wealth, and appointing a legal fraternity and judiciary in return for them, at Public Hearings, sweeping under the carpet their misdemenours, deceit and lies?
3. Are you content that they have used your money as global gunslingers, starting and supporting wars against countries they do not like, but backing and arming dictatorships, racist and supremacist regimes that they like and ignoring their atrocities?
4. Are you content that they have collectively used your money to finance fine wine and dining expenses, second homes and entertaining pop stars and celebrities?
5. Are you content that your taxes, pensions and social life have been in the hands of criminals, would- be comedians and celebrities, those economical with the truth, adulterers and those with bizarre private lives including(without any order or prejudice) John Prescott, Jonathan Aitken, Neil Hamilton, Jeffery Archer, David Blunkett, John Major, Edwina Currie, Tim Smith, Cecil Parkinson, David Mellor, Peter Mandelson , Ron Davies, Henry Mcleish, David Mcletchie, Mark Oaten, Tessa Jowell, David Laws, Chris Huhne, Lembit Opik, John Bercow and many others?
6. For the next twenty years the leaders you entrust to represent you and spend your money will be drawn from : David Cameron, George Osborne, William Hague, Michael Dove, Andrew Langsley, Yvette Coopar, Theresa May, Milliband Brothers, Harriett Harman, Ed Balls, Hilary Benn, Caroline Flint and a posse of eager glossy eyed young acolytes to ensure no change.
Does this thought excite you or appall you?
For those like myself, in the over 50’s generation, independence or not will have little effect, but for the sake our children and our children’s children, irrespective of your political affiliation, “ Let us be done of these people”
It is for the ability to choose politics that could bring Scotland closer to the Scandinavian model of the collective value of a welfare state, and an economy that is based on sustainable resources. If five million people cannot make a political success in social, economic and environmental terms from the huge resources that Scotland has, then something would be very wrong.
This is an attainable vision for Scotland. It’s a better vision than the UK can offer.
Self determination is our future. Scotland should be independent to use our resources for our benefit and for our values. It should be our values, our problems, our mistakes and our solutions. There is no promise that Westminster can make that would eclipse the massive opportunity that independence would give Scotland. While we have stood still, as a forgotten backwater in the U.K., handing over our seas and resources and our people to any war Westminster deems important, our neighbors in Norway have amassed a $300 billion oil fund which underwrites their entire country, research and pensions.
As a nation we deserve to have our own government, making the overall decision for the people of Scotland. The Westminster government only cares about the rich and London. The YES vote is not about SNP, it is about our nation and it's future. Voting NO because you dislike SNP/Alex Salmond is somewhat silly, after Scotland doesn't vote Tory but we have a Tory prime minister.
We need to have a government who is voted in by the Scottish people. To make decisions for the Scottish people and to help our country to reach its potential. With Westminster we cannot. It is not in Scotland's favor with a government who wasn't wanted by the Scottish people to be elected and force policies on the Scottish people. I cannot stress enough on why we have to pay over the amount on taxes alone. It is not fair for Scotland to do so. We are nothing more than a money-making scam by Westminster to help them fund their illegal wars and building WMD in our backyard. If they want to make so-called weapons they should take them back over the border and pollute their own country!
Nobody is going to run to our rescue. Three hundred years of union, and parts of Glasgow have a lower life expectancy than Bangladesh. We are capable in every way of creating a better society, but we can only do that when we find the courage to govern ourselves. Yes!
It will ensure we get the government we want in Scotland, ensuring us, hopefully, to become a social democratic nation speaking up for ourselves the world over, to gain more respect due to this, the removal of ll WMD from our country forever and to forge our own path for hopefully our very great future.
Being in Scotland it feels like a different country from England. Our history is different, our language is different, our customs and culture are different. We are a different people. Of course we have been bound to one another for centuries, but it was a marriage not a merging. Scotland has always been a separate nation. We just need to become a sovereign state again, but an independent nation is something we already are.
It’s not about Salmond and the SNP
-It’s about our future!
Most people want a fairer society - greater equality and proper social security for those who need it. We want the welfare state, which our grandparents fought so hard for, to be properly maintained and strengthened. We want good-quality free education in well-funded schools, colleges and universities. We want decent genuinely-affordable housing. We want investment in our local economies that will bring local jobs.
But the UK remains the 4th most unequal country in the developed world. Alistair Darling, head of the NO Campaign, has said that Labour will cut ‘tougher and deeper’ than Thatcher. No matter who is in power in Westminster, a fairer society will not be on the agenda and the worst of the cuts are still to come.
A NO vote in 2014 is a vote for austerity and inequality
Under devolution the Scottish Government has been able to make things not quite so bad this side of the border (we have free prescriptions, more social housing, no university fees); but we can’t escape the destructive cuts to public services, the bedroom tax, the benefit. We are not free to choose a fairer tax system that can fund economic investment and jobs. If we are serious in wanting a better society then we need to be free to make it happen.
A YES vote in 2014 is the first step towards a fairer Scotland.
We take inspiration from other small nations and from other fairer societies. We know there is a better way. Another Scotland IS possible.
Sarah Glynn for Radical Independence Dundee
I believe that we have a clear culture, philosophy and identity of our own which is different and clashes with much of England; evidence of this is our clear rejection of the Conservative party within Scotland.
The UK parliament is failing to help the most vulnerable sectors of our society while lining the pockets of the minority. The only chance for equality is independence.
We are an "independent nation"! Democracy is something the people of Scotland have never had. Before the union, we were ruled by the landed gentry, no democracy there! Then we had the union in 1707 followed by even less democracy. The referendum on the 18th September 2014 for me is about bringing democracy to Scotland, not independence. What I do not understand is why some Scots are happy to see democracy everywhere else in the world but not their own country. These Scots, who I will refer to as Unionists, tried to deny their fellow Scots a referendum, thus denying them the chance of democracy. Why?
Scotland's future is to precious to leave in the hands of the incompetent, out of touch and archaic institution that is Westminster. Moreover, this is all the more glaring as we see a government we didn't vote for punishing the weakest in our society. If we are to create a prosperous, egalitarian and fair society we need the powers to do so, allowing us to unlock our true potential. For in these uncertain times the best way to predict the future is to create your own future.
Scotland has a GDP of £124 billion, this excludes revenues from North Sea oil & future renewable energy output / export. The gross domestic product (GDP) of Scotland with North Sea oil included would be as much as £149 billion. Not the miserly £30 billion from Westminster that has dropped from £33 billion in 2008 a cut of 3 billion. Scotland has 8.4% of the UK population & received 9.3% of UK public spending but contributed 9.9% of UK taxes that is a £4.4 billion surplus.
For too long we have been ruled and controlled by a Party we have not voted for, and for a manifesto we have not agreed with - it's time to change that. Let's run our own country, and make it a fairer, more equal country than at present, under this Westminster administration - where millionaires earn even more money while the poor become even more poor.
Because its the natural state of affairs! Government of the people, by the people, for the people. Scotland's political outlook and policy priorities are different from the south of England and our needs are not being met by neo-liberal London-centric Westminster governments. Scotland needs to take control of its own resources and shape its own future.
The social politics of Scotland is different from Westminster, we can be a more socially just, fairer society if we had full control over all the normal tools of government. For years the people of Scotland have been lied to and fed the too poor, too stupid and too wee argument. It's time for us to wake up and smell the coffee.
Scotland will never reach its full potential while we are run from London by people we didn't vote for. Even Labour are now so far to the right they are almost indistinguishable from the Tories. And all their politicians care about is power and money- for themselves.
I want to live in a FAIR society, where people are treated equally and given an equal chance in life. I'm not interested in "punching above our weight" in international affairs, or trying to make out we are a force to be reckoned with with nuclear weapons, illegal wars and playing poodle to the US while at the same time our old people can't afford to heat their homes, and a quarter of our children are born into poverty. That is the sign of a broken society.
What are we getting out of the union exactly? Britain claims to give us a louder voice in the world, but it doesn't speak for me OR my values. We can only prosper as a country and a society when we stop looking over our shoulders to London, and begin to build the type of country we want our children to grow up in- by ourselves. Speaking with our own voice, one not channeled through Westminster greed. That's not to say I don't love the English or Welsh, but Scotland now has a chance to do things differently- better, while retaining our friendship with our close neighbours over the border.
We are a hard working, inventive country with a proud history, we are not a region. Independence will give Scotland its confidence back. I believe we will thrive as never before. We are loved and respected around Europe and the world, and will be a valued member of the UN. Have faith in yourself and your country.
So, put the future of your children in their own hands, and have faith. Don't leave it up to others. Vote yes to independence.
Why should we not govern our own country? Why be controlled from over 300 miles away in London. Westminster is so out of touch with the Scottish people. We should be able to control our own future, our own resources and our own people. What is Westminster scared of, if Scotland went independent. Independence is the only option.
We have been here before with the vote for devolution in the late 1970s. Since that point the Westminster government has systematically stripped Scotland of industry, the textile industry, the steel making industry and the shipbuilding industry. Successive governments have used Scotland as a testing ground for controversial issues such as the implementation of the poll tax. Our national policies on health, education and points of law already differ greatly from the rest of the United Kingdom. Now would be a natural point to break from the Union.
No support for overseas policies by the people of Scotland Fact.No mandate for domestic policies given to Westminster by the people of Scotland.Fact. No support for Weapons of mass destruction in Scotland our views ignored by Westminster.Fact. The bedroom tax. Handing over of the N.H.S to the private sector. Privatising of the Royal mail.Potential of education system being put into the hands of the private sector. I don't like the fact that Scotland has no say in the running of the U.K as the numbers of M.Ps south of boarder out weighs the number of Scottish M.Ps 3 to 1.The fact that due to how Westminster runs Scottish finances even with Separate N.H.S and education policies the Barnet formula would force Scotland down the same road as our southern neighbours.
I want to live in a country that is fairer and more prosperous. A country where we can all reach our full potentials. A Scotland where our wealth and natural resources are in Scotland’s hands; and not squandered by Westminster governments we didn't ever vote for.
And approximately 100 other good "positive" reasons...
We have nothing to fear but fear itself. YES 2014
Westminster Governments work for the majority population in England. As 5 million people, their policies will never prioritise our needs over the 55 million or so elsewhere.
We need different policies, decisions and priorities.
It is time we made these for ourselves.
That's why I'll be voting YES in 2014.
Scotland should be governed by the people who put the needs of Scotland first. London-centric Westminster is incapable of doing that. It's first priority is to London then England and then the rest of UK. This can be seen by the policies that are implemented, the money invested and Trident. As a majority of the voters of the Westminster parliament are English the democratic voices of Scotland are ignored and our votes are as good as wasted. It is time that those who have Scotland's best interests at heart, who want to see Scotland prosper, to take its rightful place on the global stage govern our land. Yes, Scotland should be an independent country. We the Scots people should make the choices that best suit Scotland and determine our future.
Scotland had a current account surplus in two of the past five years (been “in the black”), and a balanced budget in one of the years. This is one of the best financial records in Europe. In contrast, the U.K. had an account deficit in each and every one of those same 5 years. Scotland is in a stronger financial position than most other independent nations. That means Scotland has a strong enough financial foundations to become an independent country.
It is a country, a distinct culture, it has its own natural resources and it can play a part in the world stage as an example of a democratic decision of the Scottish people and it will be able to support itself as it is a highly intelligent country that will increase it relationship with Scandinavian nations.
As the economic climate in Britain continues to decrease Westminster and the Tory government still fail to turn things around, not to mention that the UK voting system is completely unfair and is being dominated by the Labour and Conservative parties full of stuck up private schooled men who don't know how much a pint of milk costs these days. Scotland only elected one Tory MP in the last UK general election an yet still there is a Tory government in power. Doesn't it make it obvious that Scotland needs change and that change has to start somewhere, and that somewhere I believe is Independence for Scotland.
I am voting yes because "I" think we have the money to make our nation a better place. Maybe Alex Salmons is not the man to do it, but "I" think we should go independent. I don't know much about politics, but I know money is good for a nation if its used in the proper way by help those who need help. Thanks.
I believe Scotland can survive financially as an independent country, if not thrive thanks to the booming industries within Scotland- oil, fishing, tourism, whiskey. With the world population increasing, Scotland has the means to export produce as well as become more self sufficient on it's own agricultural produce. Scotland has its own unique history and culture and deserves recognition as an independent country.
Technically Scotland is part of the state called "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" but, politically and culturally, we couldn't be further apart. Now, there will probably be many Unionists quick to jump to the conclusion that I'm an Anglophobe but this is incorrect; I have cousins from London and English friends. I have worked, gone to school and gone to university with English people. It is not a case of hating the English. However, I do hate being called "British" and I'm very proud to be Scottish.
Parties focus on the majority, not the minority. Right now, Scotland is the minority. If we became independent, then we could decide important things like if we want nukes on our door step. We would also have more money. We give 9.6% of the treasury's money in, and we get 9.6% back.
Scotland was an independent country before it became part of the UK in 1707.In fact, Scotland has its national identity, culture, and other attributes that qualifies as a country. Scotland can stand on its own economically without being part of the UK. I believe Scotland can make a positive contribution to the Europe and the world. It is time for Scotland to say yes to independence and it would be a successful country.
Too many times have we sat and spoke about it, then backed out. I believe it is time we have a bit of self belief. We as Scottish people are the only people who in a football game loosing 3-0 can still hold hope for winning 4-3. Let's have a bit of hope for our country and its remarkable people. Let's lose the safely net and believe we can be better.
The lies and constant negative campaigning including negative media bias is sickening. Everything about the UK is for the benefit of London and her lackeys. The sooner everyone north of the border wakes up to it the better! You would think having a resource like oil was a curse the way the naysayers go on.
Also, they try to make it all about the oil or Alex Salmond. Scotland is blessed with so much more. Watch over the next few years as the provision of energy becomes a bigger subject.
Scotland has six times its requirements of gas annually, and the target is to provide over 100% of electricity needs from green sources alone by 2020. The UK desperately needs to hold on to Scotland. It will use every dirty trick in the book to try to achieve it, including shifting the border to try to reduce Scotland's share of the oil as a GDP.
Scotland will be far better off and just think of all the money we'll make. The money we put toward the Government in Westminster isn't given back to us. If we become independent money will be shared equally and why should we even be giving money to a government we didn't vote for?
For too long the Scots have allowed themselves to be ruled by English Tory government who seem to concentrate on bleeding our resources and giving us very little or no return. We need to become independent so that we can start rebuilding our country the way we want to, without a London-based rule telling us what we can and cannot do. Yes, we have debts, but so does every country. We would be better off sorting out our own than trying to do so with the current government adding to them. Right now we have very little say in what our own money is actually being used for. Vote independence, please, as there is no way the English-based Tories are ever going to treat your country as equals.
For too long the Scots have allowed themselves to be ruled by English Tory government who seem to concentrate on bleeding our resources and giving us very little or no return. We need to become independent so that we can start rebuilding our country the way we want to, without a London-based rule telling us what we can and cannot do. Yes we have debts, but so does every country and we would be better off sorting out our own than trying to do so with the current government adding to them with us having little say about what our own money is being used for. Vote independence please as there is no way the English-based Tories are ever going to treat your country as equals.
I haven't seen any facts from the vote no camp that show Scotland would be better off economically or in any other way. It seems that all their argument is based on is fear of change or nostalgia.
The main points brought up by the no camp are defense, trade within the UK and Scotland needing a bigger partner in case of future economic troubles.
On defense I don't believe we need a large army, we shouldn't be starting wars like Iraq but should have the ability to assist in conflicts that require our help only. Scotland contributes around £3.5bn a year but only £2.5bn of that is spent in Scotland. Also, the rest of the world won't sit by and see Scotland attacked by pirates, just as we would help others and have done in the past.
On trade in the UK, yes, a huge part of Scotland's exports go to England, there is no reason for this to change and there is no evidence that it would with independence.
Finally on economic issues, yes, times ahead might be troublesome but Scotland is well placed to deal with turbulence financially and there is no sign of things improving in the UK as a whole anyway.
If someone cares to provide me with strong, fact based arguments to the contrary I would happily hear them but I can't find anything online to sway my mind.
I would like my country to be ruled by its own people, with all laws and regulations being created in my country. I want my country's decisions to be decided in my country. I think that the time has come for Scotland to become like every other country in the world, independent. People are worrying about Scotland being in dept? What country in this world isn't in dept? Our financial state might be a worry, but we will get through it, together, as a country, as our own country. YES Scotland!
We learned through enlightened men such as John Locke that certain rights are inherent in the average citizen. One of those rights is the ability to choose under what sort of political arrangement one is to be governed. Although the case can be made that only divine beings could rule without fault or excess, this is not the world in which we live. Therefore let the people choose. If they choose to remain subordinate to London, let their will allow it.
There is no reason that we shouldn't be. Scotland's a capable country, and has the ability to survive on its on as a wealthier country. How? Because of its own natural resources and USPs like the whiskey trade. Scotland's got 25% of the EU's off-shore tidal and wind energy potential. We've oil to exploit and minerals to harvest. Scotland is its own nation, and shouldn't be tied down to the England government. Yes, England - Scotland has no say in how we are controlled from Westminster.
Scotland should become independent because we used to have a King and if you trace back several of years you will find that there is someone who was part of Robert the Bruce's family who still lives today. If that could happen whoever that person is should become King or Queen!
We live in a democracy, so if it's what the majority of people want, then they should be allowed to be independent. I still think Scotland and Britain can have strong ties, and work together successfully. But as far as economy, Scotland would be better being separate, I can see them becoming prosperous without those villains in London. Personally I wish an Independent Scotland would take the North-East of England with them, here we feel more part of Scotland, and completely abandoned and separated from London and the south.
Scottish independence is the only way forward. The shackles of Westminster are holding back the potential of the Scottish economy with regard to north sea oil and renewable energy. The people of Scotland need change and the only way to do that is to vote yes at the referendum. Boom.
England is going down the tubes thanks to mass immigration. The Scottish people are a proud nation and should choose to become independent and save their culture and nation from mass immigration like what is currently happening in England. An independent Scotland would mean Scotland has full authority of who they wish to allow into their country. At the moment anybody from the UK and colonies can automatically also move and live and work in Scotland. An independent Scotland would mean Scotland saves itself from the mass immigration that's happening in England.
Because if Scotland doesnt get independence this time she is going to be slaughtered from westminster for the forseeable future or even contemplating independence... Scotland isnt going to have a chance like this again for a long time... For the sake of our national identity and the fact that westminster sees Scotland as a cash cow and they hate our great nation and they get us involved in illegal wars... I think we would be best serving our own country than feeding the greed that is the English government.... This independence couldnt get any better for Scotland and her people.... Thats why I'll be saying yes
Scotland becoming independent will supply more jobs for the people of Scotland, rather than money going to west minster it will all go to the Scottish Parliament. Money from the oil industry for example will go straight into Scotland's economy. And since we already have most things covered all we need are the final parts, that come with independence and I'm sure will make an awesome nation.
As a Scottish person myself, I see the idea of Scottish independence as a wonderful thing for our nation! Scotland has grown a lot from a "small state of Britain / UK" into a strong, vibrant, diverse and modern nation which has proved a lot of times that Scotland is able to handle as an independent nation. Scottish culture is extremely different to English culture, and if Scotland and England are continued to be merged together under UK system, Scottish people would not be given a chance to unleash their national pride to the fullest.
I AM A SCOTTISH. WE ARE SCOTTISH. GO SCOTLAND!
The people of Scotland should be able to make the choice themselves. People in Wales should not be able to vote for Scotland to leave or for them to stay. The same goes for England. Like the Irish did, let the people have a say in what they want. In the US, the northern states chose who would be president, and also the taxes that would be passed in the south. This was part of the cause of a four year war according to the history books. Let the natives have the say or there will be blood.
One cannot achieve one's manifest destiny whilst ruled by another country. Scotland needs to regain its independence in order to actualize its true potential which can only be accomplished by being unfettered by outside interference. If its Celtic cousins across the Irish Sea in the Republic of Ireland could successfully break away from English domination during the height of London's power in the early 1900's, then it is high time that Scotland follow suit.
For too long we have been exploited by a foreign monarchy with no real power over our futures. It is time that we were in command of our own destinies without interference from some posh private school guys down south who don't know anything about what life is like for ordinary people and see us as commoners and scum.
I believe it is fundamentally better for us all, if decisions about Scotland's future are taken by the people who care most about Scotland, that is, by the people of Scotland.
Being independent means Scotland's future will be in Scotland's hands.
There is no doubt that Scotland has great potential. We are blessed with talent, resources and creativity. We have the opportunity to make our nation a better place to live, for this and future generations. We can build a greener, fairer and more prosperous society that is stronger and more successful than it is today.
I want a Scotland that speaks with her own voice and makes her own unique contribution to the world: a Scotland that stands alongside the other nations on these isles, as an independent nation.
Scottish people are intelligent and can take on anything with hard work - it's a no-brainer. It's time to step up to the plate and stand on their own two feet. I only wonder why it hasn't happened sooner. 'Great Britain' is not what it once was in the past & is holding Scotland back.
Westminster is afraid of losing power and resources, Scotland under Westminster rule is simply resources. The same no campaigns and arguments were put forward when Westminster was loosing its grip on Empire, and we all know how we'll that turned out for them. Scotland can rule itself, and can stand on the world stage alongside all the other "small" countries, and those that left the "protection" of Empire. We certainly can't make things worse.
No one is better placed than the people of Scotland to make decisions on behalf of and for the benefit of the people of Scotland. Scotland is a resource-rich country with a rich and intelligent people and it's time that these resources and riches be used for the benefit of the people of Scotland. The vote for Independence should be seen as our opportunity to at last show the world that we are an advanced, forward-thinking social democracy. A country that remembers the poor and helps the disadvantaged.
Scotland has never had an influence in British politics. The outcomes of general elections in Scotland do not make one blind bit of difference to how Scotland is run. Scotland voted exactly the same in 2005, when we had a Labour government, as we did in 2010, when we got a Conservative-Liberal coalition. It is outrageous that people from the south of England should be able to determine what happens in Scotland, and not the people of Scotland. Do not accuse me of being "anti-English." I believe Scotland and England could both thrive, but not in a union. People accuse me of being a "flag-waving, Scottish-crazy nationalist," when every unionist always says "I'm proud to be Scottish and British." They wave British flags just as much as we wave Saltires.
Scotland is one the greatest nations on earth and are loved and respected by the whole world. We deserve real democracy to get the best out of this famous nation rich in natural and human resources. We need our own fully autonomous parliament working for the nation as a whole.
Can't see any other way, we need to get away from Westminster as soon as possible as they have no interest in the good of this nation, only bad. Which if we were independent, would not happen, hopefully. Scottish people are proud but, blasted by the mainstream media giving a very negative story this includes the "record, sun and most other publications".
A free Scotland may be hard, but, noting good comes easy.
I just see Scotland as better off as an independent country as it means that we can look after our futures and not some little money grabbing person down in Westminster. I would feel much better knowing that we are free from rule of another country where people are only interested in taking our money and not bettering our schools and hospitals.
We will be far better off on our own. More devolved powers for our government, more of our money coming back to us. More money spent on Scotland than currently is. People who actually live in Scotland making the decisions, instead of those down in Westminster. The oil is ours.
Britain controls. It's like in the 1700s when the Americans wanted to leave. Scotland should. Freedom is the key to this. Britain shouldn't be able to control anymore. The Scottish people should be free and have their own life government, rules and laws because like America they will be free and have a much better life being free, and not having people or the government watching them like hawks!
This would be beneficial because the EU will give Scotland money that before the UK would have used for services. Now both would get their own money. Scotland would also now get a more direct say in what the EU does. This is something which they struggle with now because they are in union with the UK. Scotland could also stay in NATO as one of the 25 nations that are in NATO but are not nuclear. This means SNP would deliver on the promise of getting rid of nuclear weapons. By staying in the EU as an independent does not mean that Scotland would need to make their currency. They would have the Euro, and would continue with sterling as their currency.
Scotland has all the tools to prosper and thrive without the dead hand of Westminster holding it back.
Scots contribute more in taxation than their counterparts in the other rUK and have done so in every single year for the past 30 years. The GERS figures clearly show Scotland subsidising the rest of the UK, so the notion that Scotland could not afford to be independent is as facile a notion as it is misleading, the real question should be can we afford NOT to be independent?
You just have to ask yourself one question: if we weren't wealthy enough to be independent and did have to rely on some imagined westminster benevolence, why on earth are they so terrified that we'll leave?
This is not even including the vast benefit to our cultural and social wealth that the increased confidence of being able to engage with the rest of the world as an independent nation will bring all Scots.
Scotland can and must become independent. Taking decisions in Holyrood by Scots for Scots. It's the natural state of nations and Time for Scotland to take her place in the global family. Westminster politics doesn't work for Scotland, and more of the same is no longer good enough. I don't want the children of Scotland to have to move abroad to earn a living - all successful states are smaller ones - we have a huge bonus of oil/gas to start us off.
Quite simply Scotland becoming an independent country again will provide a better standard of living across the whole social spectrum. It is a natural state for a nation to have have control over its own existence. And with this the people of Scotland will have a fairer and more equal society.
The UK is a lost cause. Scotland now has a chance to become a successful modern social democracy, and to take its rightful place in the family of nations who take their own decisions for the good of their people. A fairer, more egalitarian society, where people look out for each other, and the utterly gross inequalities that are commonplace in the UK are anathema to politicians and electorate alike.
Scotland needs to get control of its fianances, it's time to use our country's vast resources too benefit the people who live here. A quick search online , on the topic of Scottish independence, the facts to support the fianacial benefits are there. The "McCrone report" from the 1970s on the implications of North Sea oil.
After reading this and realising how badly we have been lied to was enough to outrage me, and make me try and get these facts out to people who will vote . Because its the only way folk will hear. You can be sure that the Media are not going to try to hard to point out the benefits of independence to the public off Scotland. Wouldn't want that would we. Too many rich people with lots of money too lose. Can't have that now can we.
The best people to run Scotland are the people who live and work here. The NO campaign is funded by dirty money and all they have is lies and scaremongering. They have no credibility or decency. Labour failed in the 70s under Callaghan, they were in the arms of the IMF, until rescued by Sottish oil. And they failed once more after continuing Thatchers anti Scottish ideology, driven by desire to survive in middle England. UK politics are driven by the SE of England. Scotland cannot afford to be in this undemocratic union any longer. VoteYES . MakeScotland'sHistory. Vote no and we are history.
The experience of devolution, under which Scotland has partial independence over its own affairs in areas like health, education and justice, has been highly positive for Scotland. Scots have been able to elect devolved governments that have introduced policies that reflect their vision for society, while those parts of the UK where responsibility for these matters resides with Westminster have taken a very different route.
While Scotland has chosen to base eligibility for a university education on a student's ability to learn rather than their ability to pay, abolishing tuition fees for Scottish residents, Westminster has tripled the cost of a degree to a crippling £9,000 a year.
While Scotland has protected the Scottish National Health Service, Westminster has introduced dangerous privatisation measures which ministers envisage will leade to a system more resembling that of the USA, threatening the principle of universal healthcare.
While Scotland has legislated to give every Scot the right to a home, in a bid to eradicate homelessness, the UK remains the fourth most unequal society in the developed world.
These are the achievements of not just one party, but of successive Scottish administrations. Scotland has made a success of governing itself, and has set out a different path from Westminster. However, as long as Westminster continues to control taxation, welfare, foreign and defence policy, we will see policies which do not have majority support in Scotland imposed upon us by a government we did not elect.
Devolution, and the policies it has allowed various parties to implement, have made a substantial, positive impact on people's lives - but just imagine what we could do with the full powers of an independent country. The scare stories we hear today about how independence would lead to economic hardship or disaster are the same 'arguments' that were used against devolution.
We know that we contribute more financially to the Union than we get back; that we have paid more in taxes than the rest of the UK for the last 30 years; that our deficit is lower than the rest of the UK; that our current pensions and welfare spending is more manageable than the rest of the UK; that we are the top location in the UK for foreign direct investment. We know that we have what it takes to be a successful independent nation, and we know that with the powers of independence we can work to create opportunities and encourage growth.
Our success in ruling our own affairs has proved anti-devolutionists wrong, and the people of Scotland, with our vast resources, talents and skills, will prove the opponents of independence wrong again.
Devolution has been good for Scotland, but it is not enough. Only independence will allow Scotland to take its future into its own hands. Only a Yes vote in 2014 will give Scotland the powers to create the fairer, more prosperous society that the people who live here want to see.
Scotland needs control over economic policy and its natural resources. The present set-up concentrates on the south east of England to the detriment of Scotland. It will be possible to build a fairer and more prosperous country than is achievable through Westminster. The health service can be protected against privatisation.
The Union has failed Scotland for decades. After 40 years North Sea production, we have nothing to hand down to the next generation but a deficit and a life of poverty for 1 in 5 of our children. In the same period, Norway has amassed a £400 billion reserve. The gross mismanagement of Scotland's wealth was deliberate and willful; a fact which the 1975 McCrone Report makes irrefutable. Thus denied the strong economy and standard of living we should be enjoying, we are treated as second class citizens in a wholly one sided union. We are caricatured and derided as spongers and benefits junkies, when the truth is that despite having our heavy industry betrayed and destroyed by Thatcher, it is the Scottish economy which subsidises the UK's militarist lifestyle.
It's not anti English fervor of Braveheart induced hysteria which drives Independence, but a quiet determination to end Westminster's profligate squandering of Scotland's wealth and resources, and see those same resources invested for the benefit of our people.
Go ahead, condemn the weaknesses and inadequacies of our economy and lifestyle; where it is true, it is often a direct consequence of this ill fitting Union.
You laugh and ridicule Alex Salmond; dictator you say? The only properly elected leader in the UK with an outright majority and mandate to govern, and wisely govern he does.
Unionism has nothing to offer but derision, misrepresentation, and distortion of the truth. You don't even see it's yourselves your biased media is leaving hoodwinked and misinformed. You don't believe me? OK, then list your positive reasons for the Union to exist. I'll make it easier still, list one.
I'm a YES voter, and beyond the reach of your poisonous BBC. Come on in, the water is lovely.
Scotland as one of europes oldest nations badly needs to regain its self respect as a normal independent nation state, with all the responsibilities and obligations this entails. Being in this corrupt construct of an encompassing union is inheritently unstable for both scotland and the rest of the uk. For all our sakes its time to consign the treaty and acts of union to the history books.
A lot of the issue should be about trust. Who do you actually trust to do the right thing for Scotland? Is it a load of politicians in Westminster who we more than likely did not vote for; and who don't really give a toss if they are unpopular up here as they know they have a safe seat down south? Or do we leave it to people that are directly responsible to the Scottish people and know that we can boot them out if they don't deliver for Scotland?
It is also the sheer incompetence of the current UK setup that galls me. We recently had Defence Minister Philip Hammond looking down his nose at the prospect of a Scottish armed forces "Join the Navy and see the Clyde" he said, this while standing in front of the multibillion pound white elephant aircraft carriers that are being put together at Rosyth. He boasted about the jobs that this brings for Scotland and it was a reason we are all better together. What he didn't add is that one of the Carriers is going to be mothballed and the other might not have the preferred planes as they say they can't afford it! Well what was the point in building them then? I'm sure they will come in really handy in clashes with the Somali pirates floating about in their rubber dinghies. So, if for some the issue is about jobs, instead of huge wasteful vanity projects they should have used the cash for something constructive like fixing the shocking state the roads are in! Aye we really are better together eh? Vote YES!
An Independent Scotland's future on both social and economic grounds is bright. This is clearly not so if Scotland remains within the UK, which is suffering from a protracted post-empire decline, with no plausible prospects of anything other than managed decline; the rUK would do better after Scottish Independence since this will cause a major rethink within the rUK over principles and priorities; nuclear weapons, illegal wars, colonial exploitation of mineral resources around the world. Given that Scotland's social and economic landscape have been profoundly mis-managed by Westminster since at least the 1970's, it is not selfish for Scotland to wish to make its own way in the world, but rather a naturally justified striving for both freedom and survival.
Its strange to be asked for a supporting argument for independence. There are about 200 countries in the world, the vast majority have became independent in the last 100 years or so. It's the natural state of a country to run its own affairs. If you think for a second and flip this question for a once-dependent country it would become something like 'Should the USA give up its independence and be run by Britain again?'. Such a question is as farcial as to become redundant by its predicted response by those independent citizens. To be asked then 'why independence?' and to be given a dependent response, say from the Better Together supporters would by definition be farcial. The Treaty of the Union in 1707 joined England (which incorporated Wales) to Scotland as equal partners. At the time, England's population was about 4.5 million, Scotland's was 1.5 million. After around 300 years of union, Scotland's population has roughly trebled; England's population has increased by over a factor of 12. This clearly shows an unequal bias - Scotland is clearly not better together with England. Only with independence can Scotland get the powers it needs to run its economy in its interests; only with independence can Scotland get the government it votes for; and only with independence we can get the Scotland we want - a socially just country, with no nuclear weapons, a public sector NHS and an end to poverty. Vote Yes.
Scotland uniquely since 1900 has consitently suffered from a static and declining population. We even now have food banks despite our enormous natural resources, highly skilled population and land area. Something is going badly wrong. To an impartial observer it would seem that we are little more than a colony serving the needs of elite groups elsewhere.
Democracy! The people of Scotland can no longer be governed by political parties in Westminster that they reject at the ballot box. Yet under the 'union' that is what happens. This is compounded by the fact that all three mainstream unionist parties have adopted neoliberalism as their preferred economic/social model that has been and continues to be rejected by the Scottish electorate. Enough is enough, Scotland can and will do things differently.
Could not say it better- Scotland can be a fairer,more prosperous nation. Scotland more than pays her way in the UK. We get 9.3% of UK spending, but contribute 9.6% of UK
taxes. We are in a stronger financial position than the rest of the UK, to the tune of £510 per person last year - that’s over £1000 for each Scottish household. As an independent country, this money would stay in Scotland. Scotland already pays for all the government services we need as an independent country - we don’t have to start from scratch. However, the money will be spent in Scotland, rather than London, creating thousands of Scottish jobs.
It's a matter of self and national respect.
If we believe that Scotland is a nation, which seems to be true for mist of us, it's time we took up the responsibilities of being a nation, once again.
We believe, and seem to be proud of the fact, that we are distinct set of values that sets us apart from other parts of the UK and the world, we need to accept the powers that will preserve this identity.
As a pensioner I am happy to maybe pay higher taxes if it means my grandchildren can have a good education and food on their table when they come home from school, and not have to go to a food bank before they can eat.
It is time now after 300 +years to let rUK stand on it's own two feet and stop being dependent on their neighbour Scotland. If I live until Sep.2014 I will vote yes for Independence for Scotland
Scotland Pays 9.6% of UK tax with only 8.4% of the UK population BUT only receives 9.3% of UK TAX, an extra £814 per person every year!
Power to create an egalitarian welfare and taxation system, where the rich are taxed accordingly and people are provided with universal welfare and a fully NHS and social security system.
Power to shift economic levers toward thriving Scottish industry such as renewables, food and drink, energy, life sciences and tourism.
Get rid of abhorrent nuclear weapons.
Westminster wastes our money on Trident, illegal wars etc. Etc.. London propaganda says we are being subsidised whilst the opposite is true, the BBC are anti-independence and the bias is obvious and constant e.G SNP accused, SNP warned. The SNP are not the Yes movement but this is how the BBC portray it.
Time to cut the southerners adrift we've carried them as far as we can and its time now to look after ourselves. We've subsidised London for long enough and in these austere times we need to cut off the gravy train. It will be painful for you all for a while but it'll be like learning to walk again but on your own two feet. By the way you're also welcome to keep your tory toffs for the next 50 or more years, whatever, have fun.
Scotland has a once in a lifetime opportunity for real, meaningful reform. Independence will bring us closer to being a genuine, progressive democracy with no unelected peers, no monarch, no established church and a more representative system of government than FPTP.
I no longer believe that any of these things can be achieved in the UK. Independence is the only hope of a better society for our children.
We can spend our money on our priorities. We will not need to pay for the house of lords or westminster PMs and their expenses. We will not be charged for trident. No need to contribute to london events, olympics, weddings, jubilees, funerals or sewer upgrading. We will have a government we voted for.
I wouldn't accept my neighbour making decisions about my life based on what was best for him. Independence will allow Scots, rather than voters in marginal English constituencies, to decide Scotland's future. We will decide with whom, and how much, we co-operate. We will decide how we spend our money. We will do what every other nation in the world chooses to do: look after ourselves.
Who should run a country? The people who live there. I'll be voting YES so that Scotland always gets the government it votes for. And if they turn out to be no good, they can be voted out again. If we stay in the UK, we often get governments we don't want, and we can't get rid of them. Politically, Scotland is very different from England (and increasingly so), so this problem will not go away within the UK.
I like most Scots do not prescribe to the survival of the fittest notion of Westminster.
I do not believe in a second chamber of un-elected toadies (no bedroom tax on their housing benefit)
I do not believe we should be cutting benefits and on the other hand affording WMD.
I do not believe that our NHS or water should be sold off to enrich the few in the city of London
I do not want to see our children being only able to afford a university education if their parents can afford £9,00o pa.
I am disgusted that retrospective legislation can be enacted to attack the unemployed while multi nationals and rich elitists in the establishment are allowed to avoid taxes of any kind.
A democracy based on an 18th and 19th century imperial system is not fit for purpose in the 21st century , the present ruling elite will never reform unless Scotland pushes them into it.
More importantly I will not be told by Old Etonians and others that I am too stupid ,too weak or too poor to have what every other independent country in the world has ,self determination.
Lastly and most important of all the best people to make decisions about Scotland are the people who live in Scotland and care for Scotland more than people in a foreign land.
So far I have heard absolutely NOTHING from Better Together, Westminster, David Cameron, George Osborne, Ed Milliband, Ed Balls, Alistair Darling, Johann Lamont, Ruth Davidson, Willie Rennie, Nick Clegg or ANYONE else why Scotland is better saying in this DISUNITED union.
All we have ever heard from the crowd of "protecting the union" gang is what THEY think is BAD for an Independent Scotland we have NOT heard hat is POSITIVE about this union nor are we ever likely to.
The current union is "ruled" over by a bunch of Bullingdon Boys club millionaires NO N of whom have the slightest idea of what it is like to live in the REAL world. The REAL: world of working and dealing with day to day issues. The BBC on know how to screw the public with their HIGH salaries and expense claims whilst telling everyone else that we must face pay CUTS ad CUTS to services!
Scotland deserves better. We WILL achieve better. The people of Scotland deserve better.
The time has come to cut ALL link to the 21st Century Robin Hood that is Westminster, the 21st Century Robin Hood that robs the POOR to pay the RICH!
Scotland is a distinctive place with its own culture and continues to create a history of its own, despite being part of the UK. The south east UK bias is not in our interests - we are seen as merely a distant region. Locla solutions are important in a globalised world. We need to take thse decisions ourselves and emerge as a prosperous caring nation.
Scotland is as much an ideal as it is the country of my birth. A vote for Yes in 2014 is a vote for hope and for change. A vote for No is an admission of loss, defeat, weakness, fear, uncertainty and the acceptance of UK Westminster corruption as the norm. I am Scottish, and I believe there is something better than this.
I will be voting Yes in 2014.
Austerity isn't working. The economy if Scotland is being sacrificed to fix the problems of southern England. We need control over tax and spending to ensure that we can provide economic stimulus in strategic areas and boost our economic performance.
Without independence we will not even be an afterthought as they steer the supertanker economy that is London casino banking and give scant regard to everything else.
We can plan for the future benefit of our people by prospering as a nation due to our significant resources instead of it being squandered on illegal wars and the city of London. There is not much prosperity in Scotland despite the huge resources we have on our door step. We only need to look at our Scandinavian neighbours to see how easy it can be done.
Independence is the natural state of nations, why on earth would any self respecting nation wish to be ruled by someone else? Just as England/Britain, Germany, France, Sweden, Norway, Austria and the other nations of Europe take it as axiomatic that they are sovereign, with the ability to decide on their respective national interests, so ought Scotland.
When all the assets of a country are removed by another country, and only a proportion is returned, that is a recipe for unemployment, emigration, loss of population and deprivation. This has been happening to Scotland for 300 years. For our so-called partners in this unequal union then to claim that the resulting state of Scotland means that we're too poor to be independent heaps insult on injury.
I do not think Westminster serves Scotland well. I feel our wealth is being squandered on wars, nuclear weapons, and subsiding London. I also feel politics in Westminster has become far to London-centric. I feel London enjoys many 'hidden' subsidies such as the money spent on Wembley, the Olympics, all the head offices of government departments etc, all of which is recorded as money spent on Britain. No other parts of the UK enjoys these hidden subsidies.
The Scottish government post devolution has introduced policies and laws such as free care for the elderly, abolishing tuition fees, introducing the smoking in public ban, and has created a booming renewable energy sector.
An Independent Scotland would be enabled to pursue greater initiatives - scrapping Trident and investing in a more relevant military for modern times, increasing maternity and paternity rights, reforming land rights, etc.
We would value our neighbours within Britain, but would free to implement our Scottish social democratic values undiluted by West minster politics.
This is a point where both sides will be cherry picking, omitting and out right lying to support their side, I personally think more of this has been seen from the better together camp, but that's irrelevant.
Even if you accept the fact Scotland is a poorer nation, with horrible deprivation and no ability to support itself, then that marks west ministers failure, they've had 30 years since the destruction of industry to repair and re:new industry and if you believe where' in economic ruins, the who do you trust to dig us out of it? Westminster had 30 years... That's long enough for anyone.
(For the record i suspect we're not the economic powerhouse the yes campaign would have us believe Or the poor house wretches e better together would have us believe)
Take a look at all debates, arguments, statements from both sides, listen to the YES campaign and listen to the Better Together....Listen to all the political parties voting YES, listen to Westminster.....Look at the debates and comments on this blog......As by doing this, it soon becomes crystal clear who is telling the truth, who is actually giving the real facts and who is actually deliberately lying.....As only by seriously stepping back from the debate and looking at the whole debate from both sides, there is only one way to vote in 2014 and that is a resounding YES because there is not one single person who will be voting no that can give you one single reason as to why we are better together and should vote no, not one, nothing....Where as all the people voting YES can roll off the many reasons, backed with real facts and evidence why we are better being independent and that's why we should VOTE YES in 2014....Finally the vision of what an independent Scotland can and will be, are better than the bleak miserable future offered by Westminster.
...And not only in monetary terms. Yes we have North Sea oil, and we know it won't last forever, but we have lots more : a thriving agricultural sector, fish stocks picking up again, whisky has a huge global market. But above all we have our people. When it come to inventivness and entrepreneurship Scots are up there with the best. From penicillin to beta-blockers, from the adhesive postage stamp to the PIN number system: in every field, Scots have been up there with the best, and continue to lead the world in many fields.
I wish to play no further part in Britain inc. The increasing absence of freedom of speech, sending people to prison for saying nasty things on twitter, the enforced Poppy wearing, the "support our troops" agenda even though the wars they participate in are vile, unnecessary and in some cases illegal. The Daily Mail, the Daily Mail readers, the historical revisionism pertaining to dead Prime Ministers.
I do not wish to live in Britain anymore. I have come to dislike it.
I want to live in Scotland.
This could be our only chance to cease control of our very own resources and build a better future, with a nation like scotland our determined mind set and fighting spirit, failure is just not an option. We need to be brave, Bold and trustful in each other.
We can do this SCOTLAND!!!!!
Devolution has shown that having our on government is so much better for Scotland, therefore progressing to full independence is the natural next step, with all the full financial powers, a government for the people of Scotland and answerable to the people of Scotland, not Westminster who is mostly interested in the South East!
Throughout this campaign for or against independence, I have listened to both sides of the argument very closely. Both raise - at a glance - good points, but there's points are riddled with messages that give away the very affect the result of this referendum will have.
The YES Campaign speaks of hope and prosperity. They have never talked down Scotland to any degree, and nor should they. Should any reasonable person talk down their own land?
The NO Campaign, however, does just that. Their messages are those of fear and failure. According to them, if we vote for independence, our world will cave in, our economy collapse and we'll become isolated. I suppose just like what's happened to every other country which has declared independence from the UK...Oh...Wait a minute...
I will not listen to the scare tactics of Better Together. I find the messages of hope and prosperity from Yes Scotland much more inciting, and to be honest, I also find them much more realistic.
Scotland has educated, talented citizens, a wealth of natural resources and would manage fine as an independent country. I no more want Scotland ruled by London than I would want England to be ruled by Edinburgh. Deep down we all know that it’s right and the current negative attacks on those of us who support independence are disappointingly puerile. Independence will happen and and it’s time to take the opportunity and make Scotland what we want it to be.
The UK govt is systematically ruining it's own people for the sake of an economic theory. To stay in such a union while there is an opportunity to show how it could and should be done would be nothing less than madness. Scotland can easily afford independence. The truth is, it's hard to see how we could possibly afford any more of this Dependence.
I took the leap this time last year and set up my own business - a small independent shop. I have supported independence all my life but my experience of standing on my own two feet has hit home about what Scotland needs.
Independence whether in business or for our country is about doing your own thing, choosing your own direction and working hard for the greater rewards. There might be a perceived security blanket as part of the uk but the same could be said for setting up your own business - instead of running an independent shop and doing things my way I could just go and work in tesco.
It doesn't have to mean isolation, just as independent businesses can and do work together and help each other Scotland could do the same with our neighbours. The difference being with independence we would be free to choose who and how we do it - as equals.
Every human being and every country has the right to determine it's own destiny. For too long Scotland has been held back by different governments South of the border while they squander the revenues coming from the North and made it look as if it was they who subsidized us....Time for the truth to become reality.
Scotland vote does not influence the government we get in Westminster. We need accountable representatives that can set budget, welfare, education, environmental policy to reflect the wealth of our resources & values of the populous. Scotland will never be a priority in Westminster yet the enrich themselves with her resources whilst mocking & hobbling the inhabitants.
Scotland is an ancient nation which was betrayed into a union virtually nobody wanted. That union is now no longer fit for purpose as it does not meet the aspirations of the people. The people of Scotland should be served by a government which they elect and which reflects their needs and values. They should not be leaving decisions to people in another country. Scotland has the resources and talented people to make a great success of independence. The "too wee, too poor, too stupid" comments on the other side of the page are deeply saddening. Time to regain our independence.
The age-old politics of Westminster are decrepit and morally corrupt. Since the Thatcher government, the social progression achieved post-war has been sold off to the highest bidder and the old camps of New Labour and Conservative have become indiscernible. New Labour introduced the private market to hospital wards, and the Tories have opened the NHS up to the free market, ultimately signalling the death knell of Universal health care in he United Kingdom. To add insult to injury, 207 of those who voted on the Health and Social Care act have shares in private healthcare, 79% of whom are Conservatives.
Westminster does not serve the people of Britain. Nobody in Britain wanted to invade Iraq or Afghanistan. Nobody in Scotland wanted the Bedroom Tax, the Poll Tax or the Health and Social Care Act, but Westminster imposed it on Britain with no mandate. Now The Royal Mail is being privatised and the last remnants of socially progressive Britain are being thrown in the furnace.
Scotland's economy does not need oil, it is just a massive bonus. Our biggest exports are food, drink and electronics. Using oil cleverly like Norway has, we can create a fund worth almost $1tn like they have which can be used to invest in renewables for a sustainable future. Scotland already sells energy to the rest of the UK and we can do even more with the shackles of Westminster cast aside.
A New Scottish parliament means we can start again and create a fairer, more just and more economically prosperous nation to the benefit of all of the people of Scotland. We can get rid of the Labour/Tory Dichotomy and start again. Even if you don't like Alex Salmond, after independence the SNP will likely fracture as it is already a loose coalition of people who are working together just for independence. If you want rid of the SNP and Salmond, Labour and the Tories - vote YES.
Independence would allow Scottish people to have a closer relationship with democracy. It would allow us to have a greater say in foreign affairs, defence, currency and the monarchy. Our relationship with England can still be strong, much like the UKs relationship with other former colony's like Republic of Ireland, Australia, Canada.
Scotland is the same size as Denmark, Norway, Finland and Ireland. There's no reason why it couldn't be part of the Arc of Prosperity that these countries form. At the moment, it's simply being held back by Westminster's failed political system, which leads to widespread poverty and apathy in Scotland.
I mean, really, do the things these people are saying honestly sound realistic? Does it sound feasible that Scotland would turn into a dictatorship? Does it sound realistic that we'll end up with an Irish Troubles situation? Are we really such a nation of dunderheids that as soon as we get our hands on the controls of Scotland's economy, we'll suddenly crash and burn?
These are the rantings of people who have never even considered how things could be different, and are just spluttering out reactionary nonsense. Where is the positive case for the union? Perhaps the most important thing to ask yourself is: considering how the economy has been managed by various UK governments over the past 30 years, is it even possible that Scotland could do worse?
Scotland is a rich nation. We have everything we need not just to "survive", not just to be successful, but to be one of the MOST successful nations in the world. There's that line in The Usual Suspects that "the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" - but that's nothing on the feat of convincing Scots that their country isn't rich enough to be a viable nation, just like every other independent nation in the world.
Scotland should be an independent nation because we are capable of creating a far fairer and more just nation than the one we currently live in.
Both the Tories and Labour have lurched to the right. Leaving the old, infirm and poor to whether on the vine. It saddens me that the Labour Party in Scotland has gone down the route of stopping Universal Benefits or at least curtailing them.This is not what the people of Scotland want or need. We can afford to look after our people when they need it and create a fairer society. A Government in power who were voted for in Scotland by the Scottish electorate not thrust upon them by the voting power of right of center England.
Scotland has been badly served by UK for last 100 years. If you examine comparative population growth figures for Scotland against England and Wales that is obvious.
Many able Scots have left to find a better future. We need to offer that inside Scotland sing our abundant natural resources, water, oil and gas, and renewables, not to mention food and fish.
Westminster has been deliberately and particularly suppressing our economy for decades, probably longer (look up the McCrone report). Westminster has sought and still seeks to concentrate the wealth and the power in London. When Scotland is independent we will be the 3rd richest country in the EU and the 8th richest country in the OECD compared by GDP per capita. Our oil will last at least 40 years, and we will continue to be an energy producing powerhouse when we can use our wealth to develop our renewables energy industry which will be just as important as our oil industry and it will last forever, as long as the moon creates the tides :)
From Yes Scotland:
"Being an independent country is all about making Scotland a better place to live, with greater prosperity and higher standards of living. That is the purpose and the reason why so many Scots are passionate about an independent Scotland."
I can see no reason that Scotland can't be as successful as any other small nation and possibly more successful than many others. (I think I was alerted to this by the very fact that Westminster do not want to see us go and I don't think it's for sentimental reasons.)
I don't buy into the scare stories being propagated by the no campaign and I'm not sure they're convincing very many except the hard of thinking and the committed naysayers. A little independent research shows that we can manage very well economically and that is probably what will concern most undecided folk.
Not even those in the know on the no side would dispute that Scotland is well able to take care of herself.
I want my vote to count for once. In all the 30 odd years I've been voting, and probably longer, the Scottish vote has had no influence on which party won a general election. In Scotland I've got a much better chance of making an impact and even if 'my party' wasn't to win at least it would be the party chosen by the majority of people living in Scotland.
As a mother and grandmother I feel very strongly that if I voted no I'd be letting my children and grandchildren, as well as my country generally, down. And I am NOT a nationalist. I'm a pragmatist.
For over 300 years, our Country has been tied to an unholy alliance.
We no longer live in an outdated, colonialised, society.
We have the chance to make a real change to the History and immediate future of our Country.
We are a modern, forward thinking society, unlike our cousins next door. We have a chance, a real chance, to build our Country into a great Nation.
The people of Scotland are best placed to make the best decisions for the people of Scotland. We have for some years now taken a different path than Westminster and the only way for this to continue is through independence. There is no status quo as if we vote no, then no one should expect things to improve or even stay the same.
Having lived and worked in South East England for 20+ years, my own observation is, as long as North sea oil revenue flows into the Westminster treasury and their Minisry of Defence can keep their weapons of mass destruction on the Clyde, safely away from any English centre of population, Westminster could not care less about Scotland or it's people.
I believe we can make a much better fist of running our own country with policies that suit our situation. With oil,whisky and tourism we have a good platform to start from. I also believe that water will play a big part in future years and we certainly have plenty of that.
What could be more normal than people taking responsibility for their own affairs? Not a lot, unless you live in Scotland, which has consistently voted against Tory Governments, and which sees its votes rendered meaningless by the votes of the SE England. This democratic deficit is but one consideration. Another is the autocratic deployment of resources by Westminster in the last 40 years. The truth about the riches if the North Sea were kept secret by successive Labour and Tory Governments. The riches were squandered on mass unemployment, extending the London Underground and on wars, described as spreading democracy.
It's time fir Scotland to be as normal as Estonia, Slovakia and Norway.
Westminster's priorities lie with London and the South East of the country - this often leads to decisions which are detrimental, not only to Scotland but to other areas of the UK. Independence would allow us to take these decisions to suit our needs.
As an example, the bedroom tax has been introduced (partly at least) to reduce the cost of housing benefit. This is largely in response to the high levels of rents in London, but will be introduced all over the country, affecting people in places like the north of England and here, even though we are not the cause of the problem.
If this was a one-off it wouldn't be a reason for independence in itself, but Westminster consistently takes decisions which benefit the south-east and not Scotland.
Westminster has trashed the UK economy and has been doing so since the days of Thatcher. There is no point in drowning along with those on the Titanic, as the water creeps up past their waists while they are insisting there is no problem. The Titanic is not going down! Yes it is. It has being sinking for decades. Save yourselves Scotland. Don't drown with the ignorant masses as they run with Labour for the votes of the ridiculous Middle England voter
Much is made of economics and global standing by those who want to protect the union. None of these people seem to care about social equality.
For example, the Westminster government has chosen to reduce the statutory notice period for redundancies, the tories seek to tear up the EU bill on human rights. Welfare reforms, NHS privatisation and the replacement of Trident WMD.
These things are diametrcally opposed in Scotland. We are a different people and wish to protect the rights of every man woman & child. The only way to acheive this is through independence. We already know we can easily afford independence so I fully intend to take it whilst it's on offer. We will never get the opportunity again.
Take a look at the no campaign, take a look at those that don't support it and what they say. It does nothing to endear the Union to Scots. It is relentlessly negative as it portrays Scotland as a Nation that has lived off the fruits of English wealth for 300 years. If this was true for one second, what does that say about the Union that reduced a proud nation to a benefit scrounger? What does it say for the Scots who allowed this to come about? If it were true, what Scot would want independence if they can keep getting the English to pay for everything? And lastly if true what do the English get out f it. The simple fact is that none of this is true. Scotland more than pays its way, in terms of Tax, and exports to England. We have contributed a great deal to the Union and many of Sotlands sons have died defending it. But it keeps coming back to this learned helplessness of the Scottish people, its poverty stricken, and incapabe of managing its own affairs. Its people are bigoted, racist and mysoginistic. 80% of its people contribute nothing to the economy and it has no culture of its own, no art and no musc. All of this and more leaves a cold feeling in my stomach that people who "love" the Union have done nothing to defend it from the incompetence of Westminster and take great delight whenever they think they have proven Scotland to be Feeble minded.
When I see what the tories are doing, when I see labour essentially saying that they intend to do the same, I know that devolved parliament is no longer capable of protecting Scotland. The only way to ensure that Scotland survives as a nation is to leave the Union. The union has never realised its potential in 300 years. It's failed utterly to bridge the divide between the nations that comprise it. It has no sense of identity anymore as no one is even capable of defining what British actually means.
The no campaign have failed utterly to make one postive case for the Union to stand.
Take a good long and hard look at the replies here for voting no. Not one single post defines the Union as anything other than a benefit cheque for scots to live off. We'd all lose our jobs and our pensions, we would lose our houses, we can't be competent at business - etc etc. They seem to revel in mediocrity and self inflicted victim hood. They sneer at the idea of Scotland going it alone. They take comfort in a Union that gives them handouts. This is the best of them. This is best the Union has to offer Scotland. And I want nothing to do with it.
The thought of Boris Johnson as Prime minister of the UK and Nigel Farrage as his deputy pursuing a reactionary right wing agenda against the wishes and votes of the Scots, is reason enough for me to vote yes in the referendum.
An Independent Scotland would provide the opportunity to build the sort of nation that reflects the people who live here, already there is a divergence of policy between North and South, for instance the protection of the NHS in Scotland.
The removal of nuclear weapons of mass destruction from Scottish soil another.
Scotland - 9.9% of UK's non-debt income in 2012 (9.6% in 2011) against just 9.3% of the UK's (debt fueled) expenditure, and with 8.4% of the population.
The question is not whether Scotland can afford independence or not - the figures indicate that we can, and that we would, immediately, be significantly better off per head of population.
If Scotland genuinely did benefit from dependency, it's what I would be inclined to support. As it stands, the union cost Scotland around £7 million each day (as per the GERS figures last year) - and that doesn't include the savings we could make not paying for and hosting the UK's WMDs.
Debates about national identity are largely redundant. Everyone thinks their national identity is the best, and trying to compare, argue and measure them is about as worthwhile as arguing over one's favourite colour. What matters is whether or not the Scots people will be better off financially with independence. All the facts and figures - empirically verifiable, and readily available - indicate that we would.
I am of the opinion that those best placed to make the decisions that affect those people in Scotland are those that live in Scotland. It will also enable Scotland to rid itself of Weapons of Mass Destruction from our most densely populated area and use the money saved for better projects suited to Scottish values. I also strongly agree that Scotland should have better representation within the wider world, which currently it does not receive from the Westminster government.
Since 1999 Scotland has had its own government which has competently dealt with having powers over education, health, transport, the emergency services, justice and more. Not many people would argue that the Scottish government has dealt with many of these things less well than the UK government. So why shouldn't Scotland control their own economy, defence, foreign relations, broadcasting, gambling laws, gun control, abortion law etc? Having half a parliament means being treated half-heartedly by others.
In this ever-increasingly connected world, well over 100 new nations have been created since the end of World War II, nearly all of them with less wealth and resources than Scotland. The UK's political situation is outdated, awkward and unnatural.
It's about time Scotland grew up, and stopped being content with people living elsewhere do all the hard bits for them.
The United Kingdom has runs its course. Scotland has a distinctive voice within northern Europe and an economic future that is much more balanced than the London-centered UK. Its religious, legal and education systems have always remained separate from the UK. As an independent country Scotland will be able to take advantage of its history and resources to build a wide economic base, everything from tourism, farming, fishing and whisky, to renewables and oil exploration.
Scotland is a nation with its own political, social and cultural needs and tastes. These can best be realised by a parliament where it's 100% elected in Scotland, rather than the 9% of seats we have at Westminster. I want Scotland's needs to be paramount to those who are elected, this simply doesn't happen at Westminster. You'd only need to read the McCrone Report to see how Westminster has, does, and will repeatedly lie to the people of Scotland about our assets in order to prevent us from becoming independent. We are a net contributor to the UK and operate at a lower deficit than the rest of the UK, meaning on independence every penny raised in Scotland will be spent based on our needs, rather than being wasted on nuclear weapons, illegal wars and public events which are of no benefit to Scotland whatsoever. Independence is the natural choice for Scotland to become a fairer and more prosperous country.
The cuts and privatizations to public services south of the border will leave the Barnett Funding for Scotland so badly reduced as to make our current standards of Public Healthcare and social protection totally nonviable. This will happen regardless of the ACTUAL amount that we raise in taxation as what is actually earned has no bearing on what Scotland receives as funding. EVEN if the formula is scrapped, Westminster will just introduce a new system that still cuts our funding far below what we actually raise in taxation - the result would be the same.
I am voting yes so that my daughter will still have free higher education, a national health service and social protection.
Things such as independence can go either way, the issue has been in the offing for a long time, although uninformed of the majority of issues regarding this, i believe that such a change would be encouraging, regardless of the financial state of play, it is something which many people in history and in the present have wanted, so stand or fall it should be worth a try.
Its about the future for me. I have no time for the negative "you all just watch Braveheart constantly" and "its just about hating Thatcher" accusations that are thrown at independence supporters.
Scotland and (most of) the Scottish people have the resources, the ingenuity and the pride to make Scotland a successful and sustainable nation state with a worthwhile future for the next generation.
If we remain under Westminster rule then the resources (oil, renewables, agriculture etc) and the ingenuity (the brain drain) will continue to be siphoned off. We will continue to get a block grand hand-out and continue to have Westminster squander the rest on illegal wars, high speed trains that most don't want and fewer will benefit from, the list goes on......
VOTE YES, SEPTEMBER 2014. Proud to be a Scottish Farmer!
Scotland should become independent because of disproportionately high taxes paid per capita, and highway robbery throughout history by the UK. Scotland is already essentially a country, I don't know why they allow the Crown to rob them. Someone brought up Québec however, and they are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Quebec is a province of Canada that has absolutely to reason to separate other than the fact that they speak a different language. They also accept more Federal Transfer Payments from provinces like Alberta than almost ANY OTHER PROVINCE. The Parti Québecois serves no purpose other than to disturb the peace and discriminate against minorities.
Scotland is been pulled down the gutter because of Westminster's policies and we have been paying more tax per head over the last 30 years to the tune of £222 billion. And Westminster want us to take on £100bn of debt. Scotland has and does pay her way and would be a better country ran by a Scottish government and not Westminster.
Why is Scotland being run by a party that they didn't vote for? Why do we have all the nuclear weapons? I don't want to be targeted should WW3 break out because west minister has pushed the big red button. Last year Scotland paid more money into west minister than it got out, Scotland going independent would be a huge loss to England. Admittedly in previous years Scotland has benefited from the union but times have changed, it would be far stronger without it
Scotland is a nation and nations should naturally govern themselves. Scotland is a very wealthy country but too many people are living in dire poverty. The only country in the world to discover oil and get relatively poorer. Only independence can deliver a government it's people voted for. Vote Yes
Because Scotland has the oil and therfore we could evolve a very rich country on our own like the intelligent and amazing norwegians up there in north. They are genius and one of the richest countries in the world even though they only have 5 million citizens. THat is why!
Scots have always moaned about London Governance. Now they have a chance to take the reigns and graduate from 'region' to 'country' (technically, devolved constituent country to independent nation state).
If Scots decide to vote NO, then fine, but they need to accept that they will always be nothing more than a 'region' of the UK. Which the rest of the world simply considers to be 'England'.
All these people who say they will vote no because they don't like Alex Salmon or the SNP need to remember that it has nothing to do with them. Once independent we are free to vote who we want not what the majority (England) want. I personally can't see how things can get much worse for Scotland and I welcome the chance for us to shape our own future. The polls are changing don't believe the biased media more people want independence than ever before.
We must vote yes, be a nightmare otherwise....Nuclear weapons, middle east wars, right wing policies are all valid reasons to say yes. Its been a union thats outlived its use, we have nothing in common with middle/south england, and our pro europe stance outlines that...No other option will do our nation justice, roll on 2014..
We'll be branded cowards and rightly so if we don't become independent. We have the intelligence the skill and resources to be a great nation. This generation are taking a massive step not a risk and it is in the right direction. Generations to come will benefit from and be thankful for it
It's so obvious that Scotland's affairs should be decided by the people affected the most, in other words, the people who live in Scotland should decide. Scotland has plenty of natural resources and would fare far better independently. Just because it has been a certain way for a long time doesn't mean it's better to stay that way. It's time for Scotland to grow up and stand on its own two feet, it will never look back.
I was born in England and have lived in Scotland for seven years. I have three children born in Scotland and plan to live the rest of my life in Scotland.
One thing I have noticed with Scottish people is that they are community spirited, it not all about the individual it about the community. Scotland is a land full of talented pleasant mannered people.
In my opinion there are lost of scare stories about Scottish independence. I am fed up with the fear stories from Westminster, I am fed up with the rubbish weather forecasts from Television broadcaster down south, that divided Scotland into a few sectioned provided no detail!
I am fed up with the stereotype I get down south visiting friends and family that everyone eats fried Chocolate bars or is high as a kite. I find it verbal oppressive
Scotland can stand on her own feet. Like most people I am concerned for the future of Scotland, but I think that is a positive aspect, as it means we won’t let Scotland fail.
So I will be voting yes!
Being independent will mean the people who care most about Scotland – the people who live in Scotland – will be taking the decisions about our future.
As an independent country we will always get the government Scotland chooses – a government that will take forward policies designed to meet the needs of people in Scotland
Scotland is richer than the UK (look it up if you don't believe). We have no reason to stay in the UK, it is just cringe worthy to say "But we have history and culture..." Well we all know the history and who wouldn't want their country governed by itself and not another country?! Who, seriously?! We have an amazing amount of natural resources, wind, tidal, wave and more! VOTE YES.
Look, just back when the film Braveheart was made. I'm barely 19 and I'm from northern Ireland and I even know now that Scotland need to be independent. They wanted their freedom then and they still want it now. If they vote no then people will still say that Scotland deserved to be independent. It wont go away. I believe that Scotland have the resources and right to vote for their independence or at least a trial run. "They may take our lives but they will never take our freedom!"
After joining the army at the age of 16 and serving 10yrs. I have become aware that our reasons for fighting in Ireland and the gulf wars were very suspect to say the least. Having experienced first hand as a member of the household division what queen and country mean. I wish to no longer be party to them or their elitist system.
I want to live in a Scotland where we look after our people and somehow manage to build industry away from just reliance of oil revenue.
I see the Westminster machine as being an old draconian system that has been draining the soul from the Scots for far to long and with every debate they show their scare mongering face, only now the mask has slipped and I see very clearly what they are and it's not pretty.
Viva la scotia. ;-]
Scotland has independent systems of law, education and health, and all are better than the Westminster run equivalent. I don't want to live in a country that prioritises capitalism and greed above it's people. Save billions on nukes and military campaigns and spend it on the country's infrastructure. Energy capital of Europe with 90% of the UK's fresh water, soon to be the world's most valuable commodity. Add the oil, fisheries, whisky, tourism and silicon glen and we can wipe out the horrific poverty within two or three generations.
Scotland should leave the UK - they'll realise that they simply cannot survive in the modern world by themselves. They wouldn't even be allowed into the EU, with Spain giving a VETO if they apply. They will have to either join the god awful euro or have a new currency which will drop rapidly, seeing as how Scotland is such a tiny insignificant country. They will end up like Belarus - a nation with a controlling leader and failing economy. Scotland is a left wing nation; they're the majority of Labour voters for goodness sake! Good riddance if they decide to leave - then the UK can leave the EU after.
Scotland should proceed in becoming their own state if they so wish. They do not seem to understand fundamentally however that this decision is not nearly as simple as Alex Salmond thinks it is. If Scotland truly is able to leave the UK, while still using the pound, the queen, automatic NATO EU and UN membership then they should go ahead however this seems unlikely
It has its OWN past and history. OWN culture, OWN language, etc... It was independent before so why can't it be independent again? I think Scotlands success and brave, powering history should be recognized as itself and not looked at as the United Kingdom as a whole. The lands of Scotland were born to be its own true identity of beauty and independence.
The party that the people of Scotland vote for is the one that should govern them. Too often this has not occured. No to trident and the obscene waste of money. No more American led wars and dying young Scots. A more centre-left welfare based society, not governed by the South East.
Scotland can manage on their own two feet, they have the oil, renewable energy, whiskey, and ships that England finances itself with. Plus the politicians in Westminster doesn't even care about them (or even those in Northern England) like Alex Salmond does. Queen Lizzie and David Cameron can get their own oil and build their own ships for the royal navy.
Because i dont like them and their accents or their skirts or their music. I dont understand what they are saying and so i disagree with them. They should just go away and be independent and we'll see how well they will do then, England is fab and they are missing out
I am a 16 year old girl, i feel that many people my age are just going with what their parents vote instead of finding out what they truly believe. After a great deal of though, consideration and research i have come to the conclusion that Scotland will be better of deciding her own future, not somebody else.
In the end it is not going to matter anyway. If Scotland does gain independance, after the public sector cuts, cost of a new security regime and the taxation changes, it would be a matter of time before it goes pear shaped. This will not be much of an issue as 'England' will end up bailing them out anyway once Scotland goes under, so from a Scottish politician's point of view, its win win.
Scotland has more than enough ability to succeed as an independent nation,its about tine we had the back bone to stand up and be counted, we can succeed economically and shut the faces of the ignorant south of the border who think they they prop up Scotland,we pay taxes,vat,etc etc just like everyone else, westminster sucks the life out of Scotland and is only interested in our resources,our strategic position and for Labour staying in the union is the only way they will ever get back into power in westminster. Mm, i wonder why they want a no vote. Independence is the only way forward. A.Martin.
It's not just about recourses and income available to the country… it's about how these available recourses will be spend and distributed. An independent Scotland could invest in education, health care, culture, renewable energies and many more. What are the chances of that happening as part of the UK??
Another war on people that did nothing to us? How many billions of pounds more on trident and weapons of mass destruction? The money is there…. You just have to invest it where it is recurred the most. And Britain has failed to do so!! And will fail to do so in the future.
I am neither Scottish, nor English and the NO camp will have to realise sooner or later that this debate is not about identity…. Its about democracy.
I believe that we should never have been part of the United Kingdom in the first place. I genuinely believe that being part of the union holds Scotland back as a Country, I have this view as I believe there is a feeling of being governed ( almost dictated to ) by Westminster rather than being a partner in a union and thus creating a consensus ( particularly among the poorer fraternity in Scotland ) that they are the bottom of the tank, a burden and being cared for by England which has destroyed drive and morale amongst these people, ( Scots are a proud bunch and wether politically correct or not, they are not great fans of the English, which i believe is due to this feeling of governance. I think the relationship would be a much better one as independent country's. ) When the truth be told Scottish oil fields have propped the Uk up for many years. I also believe that Westminster have made some abysmal economical decisions over the years which Scotland have had no control or say over, and yes i am blaming Westminster because they made those decissions. As voters in the Uk elections Scotland has such a small population in comparison to England that they never have a real voice in this " Union" therefore it's not an equal partnership and not in Scotland's best interest to be part of such a group. I am also intrigued as to why Westminster are so eager to keep Scotland part of their group if they are such a burden and are taking so much from their economy???
Westminster has been clinging on to the last bastion of British international power - London. Huge projects have totally neglected Scotland, 30bn hs2 project hoovering in economic activity from around England and the 15bn cross rail link. We had the same oil resources as Norway, but are poorer than England.
Scotland is in the state it is because of successive Tory and labour governments, bedroom tax and food banks ,our MPs trying to blackmail Clyde workers into voting no to independence on the promise maybe you will get drip fed new ships to build . What if f the government changes its mind on where to build them or even if they will need them after a no vote,remember that Scottish patriot Malcolm RIfkind when he betrayed his countrymen and moved submarine refitting to Davenport from Rosyth .We have always returned more labour MPs but only if England votes labour do we get the government we want this cannot be democracy. Alistair Darling had his hand on the tiller when HMS GB crashed onto the rocks and now says better together you and the Tory's are a busted flush you have been rumbled , its time for change
Its time for change the London dine-sty has reined for to long the north of London is waking up and realises that they are being taken for a ride I want decisions made for Scotland in Scotland and by the people of Scotland its not just about Scotland its time for change and change is coming
When Scotland declares independence next September they will be released from the chains on their economics and industries currently held by the English. The north sea alone will be able to keep Scotland afloat and when you add in the other industries that Scotland is renowned for, they will. Ot only be a stable but economically prosperous in the years to come. When you look St the statistics of the average income Scotland makes 99% of the average income of the entire UK and when you include the income from the north sea they make 118% of the average income in the UK. On top of all this, Scotland produces more money from their income tax alone then there split of the UK national debt. Strictly from an economic standing, you shouldn't be worried whether or not Scotland can handle the declaration of independence but if England can.
Scotland will continue to produce oil and gas into the second half of this century. As the UK Government’s own Oil and Gas Industrial Strategy (published in March 2013) confirms - “According to Oil & Gas UK’s Activity Survey, the reality is that the UK will continue to supply oil and gas well beyond 2055.” (p24).
There will be opportunities beyond this in terms of supply of our skills internationally, and in taking forward a programme for decommissioning. At the same time, new opportunities will be opening up, particularly in industries such as renewable energy.
Using the “median line” principle which is most often applied in international law, Scotland would get about 90% of the oil revenues, according to Professor Alex Kemp of Aberdeen University.
Scotland has 90% the crude oil from the North Sea in her territories, and if we were to open up our industries again - distilleries, factories, cotton mills etc. - we would have income from that. Scotland as an independent republic would probably thrive, however I do not feel it should be under Salmond and the SNP.
How is Scotland supposed to achieve the government it wants when the population of Scotland is smaller than the population of London? If Britain stands for democracy than why is there such an unjust voting system where Scotland virtually has no say in their future government. Scotland didn't vote for the Tories and yet, we have to deal with their decisions that are not right for the majority of our country. An Independent Scotland would allow Scotland to have the government that the majority voted for which means that instead of having a government in a completely different country making our rules and governing our people we would have a government that knows what Scotland needs as a nation and would make the correct choices for Scotland.
If Scotland became independent we would be able to choose a government for ourselves because today, we have a government in Westminster that most of us did not vote for yet they take decisions that effect families and communities in Scotland. This would not be the case if we became independent because our new government would make decisions that would benefit us and take forward the needs of people in Scotland. We would be able to focus 100% on making Scotland better. For example, we could choose to reverse the UK government's
tax cut for the very wealthiest in society and instead restore the higher level of tax allowance for our pensioners. Being independent means the revenue from our
vast offshore renewable energy will come to Scotland, allowing us to benefit communities across the country. We can work more effectively to attract companies to
Scotland, and help businesses already here grow, allowing us to create more jobs. While the UK plans on spending £100 billion on new nuclear weapons in the
future, we can choose to spend our £8 billion share of this money more wisely. G Scotland better.
Scotland is talented and rich enough to be a success. With only a population of 5 million and massive resources - oil, gas, electricity, water, renewables etc Scotland will be able to invest these in Scotland. Currently London decides what happens and it is so focused on itself it has left everyone else behind and with Scotland's money. Scotland pays higher tax per head than anywhere else. Thanks. Time for change. Vote Yes.
Scotland has what it takes to be an independant nation. With our geographical share of assets and ofcourse our fair share of national debt we can be very strong nation. I laugh on hear reading comments about evil Westminster giving Scotland free education and prescriptions. It was our own parliment who gave us these things. Westminster voted against giving them away for England and Wales we have these perks Thanks solely to the Scottish government. As for the currency we will be begged by Westminster to use sterling in an independant Scotland as we have a strong exporting power in Scotland unlike the rest of the UK which imports more than exports. This high export of Scotland is all that is currently keeping the sterling afloat at present. For years Scottish citizens have been told were to poor to be independant and some scots have came to believe that. Also the rest of the UK think they carry us financially. Infact is the greatest lie this government ever told. Truth is I think UK is carried by Scottish exports. And this will eventually be seen to be true once we vote yes in 2014. If we ever decided to use a Scottish pound it would be one of the strongest currencies in the world and would sink the sterling for sure.
Britain is arguably founded on extremely undemocratic ideologies. For example, 26 seats in the house of lords (a senior committee which amends and passes laws) are taken up by bishops purely because they're members of the church of England. The Scottish parliament has a much more democratic system, which does not reserve places for church members and uses a proportional electoral system for appointing members of parliament. Becoming independent would therefore arguably be a step for democracy.
In becoming independent, we'd need to integrate ourselves more heavily with Europe. There are plans by independence parties here to set up ties with Nordic countries such as Norway and Denmark. Adopting a Nordic political model would arguably be more beneficial for Scotland, which traditionally and politically has more in common with Nordic countries than with E
There's no need to resort to nationalism of either flavour to come to a conclusion. The simple fact is that the UK government can only ever develop policies that help some of the people and not others. With a significant weighting of people, and their friends in the financial industry living and working in the SE it makes logical sense for them to be looked after by the Tory/Labour (does it really matter which now?) government. In Scotland we have completely different needs due to the different industries, the spread out populations, and the left of centre politics of the vast majority of the people. To serve both ourselves and the south of England better, it makes sense to take control of our own affairs. It may cost us in the short to medium term, but this a decision which will affect not only our children, but all of the future generations of our families. In the long term a government in Scotland making policies to help the Scottish people and the Scottish workforce can only be for the best. We will never be looked after properly by a Westminster government.
I believe Scotland would be better off although I do not have much knowledge in the topic. Hopefully if secession would occur, the whole United Kingdom would not fall apart. I think Scotland has enough economic Capital to allow the to prosper while also allowing England and the rest of the Kingdoms to prosper as well. Scotland is just to diverse compare to that of england
You know, there really isn't much point in me even saying you have a chance in winning in the referendum because let's face it you don't. Support is at a all low, and all you scots supporting independence may say 'as more scots learn more, more will support it' well the act is this is a big fat lie because what positive things Alex samond promises such as lower taxes than england. And then england will just tell scotland how you will have to pay the billions of debt and how you'll have to adopt a new currency, how your house market will fall, how you'll just have to pay money to the europe union, how you'll have to fork out money on a military as you will only get a tiny bit of the uk military assets due to you only being a nation of 5 million compared to england a nation of 53 million, how your energy bills may rise and how many jobs will be lost in scotland, how whilst you have North Sea oil england will enjoy the rewards of the falkland oil when it comes ashore and much more which is yet to be revealed by england on why independence is bad. Not to mention how our queen and england are disappointed you want independence. Now compare all these facts to your first ministers false promises and let's see what out weighs which.
A Tory government again, despite being outvoted in Scotland AGAIN! Is this democracy?
Trident gone. No more illegal invasions. Invest in our people the way we want to, not the way we are told to! Make our own mistakes.
This isn't a vote for Alex Salmond. In an independent Scotland Labour might become the party they used to be, instead of the centre nonsense party they currently are.
Scotland has the means to prosper. Like every other nation, Its greatest asset is its people. A fact that most British governments do not realize.
If Norway and Denmark can be prosperous and caring nation states, so can Scotland.
Scots are best able to determine what is in their best interest.
The English electorate seems determined to drag themselves into the gutter.
Scotland can provide an example of how to create a compassionate, equal and prosperous society.
• Scotland’s identity began to form with the Roman identification of Caledonia as different from Britain more than 2000 years ago.
• Scotland was an identifiable, named nation between the mid 9th Century and beginning of the 18th Century – in other words over more than 800 years. Her borders including Shetland, Orkney and the Hebrides were all established sovereign territory in that period. Scotland’s main antagonistic invader in that entire period was England... William Wallace and Robert Bruce didn’t want a new, independent country, only their old sovereign nation back.
• Great Britain has only existed since the Union of the parliaments in 1707. The United Kingdoms’ of England and Scotland have only existed since 1603. This means that the current identity of The United Kingdom of Great Britain etc has only existed for 305 years – an arrangement which was fiercely opposed by the Scottish people from the outset.
1. Caledonia (The Roman name for Scotland) = 2000 years old
2. Alba (The Gaelic name for Scotland) = 1600 years old
3. Scotland (The combined Pictish and Gaelic name for Scotland) = 1200 years old
4. North Britain (the Unionist name for the Scottish Region ) = 307 years old.
ONLY A VOTE FOR SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE CAN PREVENT SCOTLAND EVENTUALLY CEASING TO EXIST IN BRITAIN AS ANYTHING BUT A DISTANT MEMORY. Could you really live with yourself voting against Scotland’s self determination and freedom of choice? VOTE YES TO INDEPENDENCE.
11. Scotland gives more than it gets back from the British TV Licence and its state sponsored broadcasting services. The BBC had to be forced by its Chairman Chris Patton to stop being biased in the referendum debate – although unfortunately that was too little, too late and ineffective. Thet are still up to their tricks, putting a negative spin on ANYTHING which could cause self belief in the Scottish electorate.
12. Scotland gets very little infrastructure investment from Britain. Eg. The new High Speed Rail line?
13. Scotland was forced to accept experimental nuclear power stations and nuclear waste dumps on its land to protect English population centres. The British government even recently wanted to put a new nuclear power staion in Scotland until the devolved SNP government opposed it and began a programme of promoting renewable, clean, safe energy instead. Funnily enough, Westminster no longer wants a new nuclear power station.
14. Scotland’s steel and coal industries were completely dismantled and destroyed by the British establishment with Margaret Thatcher in the driving seat. Here we are again, with the Tories in London calling the shots and savagely cutting the budget for Scotland.
15. Scotland’s children are required under British regulations to be educated in British (primarily English) history instead of Scottish history... If you don’t believe this, answer – who was King of Scots when the English King Henry the 8th was on the throne? Who was King of Scots when the Battle of Hastings in 1066 between the English and Normans was being fought?
16. Scotland’s historic army units consisted of various highly identifiable formations until the early 1990’s. Although there had begun even then, a systematic effort by the British government to destroy the Scottish Military infrastructure... Such as the removal of the Scottish training facilities from Brig O’ Don Aberdeen and Glencorse in Penicuick to Newcastle in England. At that time, various historic (and some directly linked to Scotland’s ancient cultures of Highland Clans and Lowland peoples) units existed including: The historic Scottish Division comprising – 1st Bn Royal Scots, 1st Bn Kings Own Scottish Borderers, 1st Bn The Black Watch, 1st Bn Gordon Highlandsrs, 1st Bn The Royal Highland Fusiliers, 1st Bn Queens Own Highlanders (Seaforth and Camerons), 1st Bn The Argyle and Sutherland Highlanders. Other formations and units include: 2nd/51st Highland Volunteers, 2nd/52nd Lowland Volunteers. The Lovat Scouts, 1st and 2nd Battalions Scots Guards, The Royal Scots Dragoon Guards, 4th Royal Tank Regiment, The Highland Gunners, The Lowland Gunners. However, this entire structure has been dismantled by the UK government in the past 20 years to leave a rump of Scottish identified units completely subsumed into the British / English establishment. This destruction directly erodes Scottish historic identity, Scottish jobs, community pride, military efficiency, Scottish infrastructures etc
1. Scotland is continuously told by Unionists and people from South of the border that it does not pay its’ way, that it is subsidised by English taxes via the unfair “Barnett Formula” Surely, If Scotland really was a burden on the UK, they would be desperate to let Scotland go...............
2. Scotland has subsidised the armed forces of Britain and its lost empire with personnel in the armed forces for 300 years. Tens of thousands of men died in British service between 1707 and 1945, particularly in the Highland Regiments during the Victorian age. This is still the case and Scotland with 8.4 percent of the population provides more than 15 percent of the manpower... Which Whitehall is now fearfully trying to dismantle before the possibility of Scottish independence exposing the over reliance on Scottish manpower. Virtually all moveable army resources have been moved South of the border in the period between 1979 and the present day.
3. Scotland subsidises England with electricity supplies. Scotland already over generates power for its population which is almost a tenth of England and Wales. England and Northern Ireland cannot produce enough for their own needs.
4. Scotland subsidises England with water because England uses its water supplies to exhaustion due to industrial uses, over population and a lack of natural water reserves.
5. Scotland subsidises the remainder of the UK with numerous and vast military bases for nuclear submarines, aircraft, munitions dumps, military training grounds, secret installations etc. Strangely, the British government is trying to suggest that perhaps they might no longer want nuclear weapons and submarines – do they actually mean they cannot afford it without Scotland?
6. Scotland subsidises the entire UK population with its fishing waters and which have now been fished to virtual depletion. Yet the UK government does not stand up properly for Scotland’s fishing rights.
7. Scotland’s 5 million people subsidise the entire 60 million people of the UK with Scottish oil and gas revenues (AND THIS IS NOW EVIDENCED BY DENNIS HEALEY’S ADMISSIONS IN 2013)
8. Scotland subsidises the UK Treasury with its massive, worldwide Whisky industry revenues.
9. Scotland contributes massively and unequally in favour of the UK Treasury through Tourism, Country Estate Sports and Leisure, football and other commercial sports and leisure.
10. Scotland’s population pays Income and VAT taxes, National Insurance, Corporate, Inheritance and all other forms of tax in exactly the same way as the rest of the UK – Scotland s population, at the very least pays for itself and is not subsidised by the English, despite Unionist scaremongering claims to the contrary.
Scotland is a popular country the world over, with bright minds and an engaged public! This can be the making of a truly great Nation! And one which enjoys great trade relations with its biggest and closest neighbour England! Working together as autonomous countries will be far more productive than the current London-centric bubble that exists now.
I think there is a reason that Alex Salmond has not told us everything yet. I think the yes campaign have a trick up their sleeve and are waiting until it is near the referendum before releasing this information. The unionist think they have won already. I think Alex Salmond is letting them think that
If you look at other small independent European countries you can see why Scotland should be independent. Here are some small European countries who are all in the top ten wealthiest countries per captor. Norway, Switzerland, Luxembourg , Denmark and Sweden. If all these countries can do it why can't Scotland. Vote yes in 2014
I think Scotland should separate from the UK. UK has been transformed from a genuinely caring and a welcoming nation to a xenophobic one that demonises people and immigration. Please Scotland separate from the UK and show the world that you too can function independently. Show the world that the sentiments of Scotland dont echo with sentiments of the UK and more importantly show the world that monarchy can be done away with.
At under 10 percent of the UK population, Scots pay about one thousand pounds more per person in tax than they should. Scotland's deficit is proportionally lower than that of the UK as a whole. Scotland has run a lower deficit than the UK for four consecutive years from 2008-12. Claims of Scotland's role as a subsidy junkie have been rubbished by looking at our disproportionate ratio of tax to public spending. North Sea oil is estimated at about 24 million barrels, or 1.5 trillion pounds remaining. Exports of whiskey totals over 4 billion pounds annually. Concerns over the currency and level of debt that Scotland will inherit are legitimate but it is perfectly realistic that an independent Scotland that approached these obstacles objectively could navigate. My biggest hope for an independent Scotland comes from our massive potential to become a renewable energy powerhouse within Europe. Sounds ridiculous but Scotland boasts almost one quarter of Europe's wind an tidal energy potential. Aberdeen is an energy hub of knowledge that would be perfect to attract even more companies to utilize this monstrous resource. We have a higher percentage of members with level 3 or level 4 qualifications (HNC, HND, degrees), than that of the UK. Our GDP per head is higher than the UK, and our unemployment rate is lower. The level of austerity laid out by the UK government looks set to reach 85% of the GDP. This is unacceptable, The Scottish Nationalists get slated for being simply about independence. They have done an excellent job and have won me over. I grew up a sceptic of independence but I honestly believe that they have made a legitimate case for a progressive nation, free from the ridiculously short-sighted idiocy of the Conservative party.
The entire no campaign is based on fear. We can't do this is their main line. But the yes campaign is based on positive things like freedom and the future. We must rise up. At the moment it is an Englishman telling us what to do in England when if we were independent we would have a scot telling us what to do. But if we were independent all the labour supporters would benefit. Because they wouldn't have England voting Tory every election and getting their way. They might get a fully in control Scottish labour government. Vote yes 700 years exactly after Robert the Bruce defeated the english and won our independence. This time you don't have to fight. You just have vote.
Why would you want to be part of the English, have a king and a queen if all they do is take your money. Don't want to be part of the UK you want to be just Scotland. Scotland would be better on its own, we have lots of oil to sell and make ourselves money instead of making wales and England money too!
The Scottish Parliament has one Conservative seat; it is clear that the Scottish people do not support the politics of the Conservative party. Yet we have in Downing Street a Tory Prime Minister who (along with a man who can't stick to his manifesto) calls the shots on UK policies. The Westminster politicians are corrupt and myopic. The expenses scandal was a disgrace, the shelving of the levison enquiry was a disgrace, the bedroom tax was a disgrace, the 40% inheritance tax is immoral and the enormous cost of bailing out the banks while putting no safe guards in place to ensure that banks lend to small business is a disgrace. Scotland needs a political model that has an interest in the people with the capabilities to support them. The UK government needs reformed.
The question would be why are we not better independent?
Why do you want to keep contributing to the cash giants in England? The money we contribute doesn't even benefit Scotland never mind the other two countries which are part of the United Kingdom.
Come on, let's face it. It's never been known as the United Kingdom, it is solely known as England. Horrendous England. I do not understand why you want to carry on being associated with those dundering bawheeds.
As you will know, I hope, the revenue for any country is usually calculated by the population, per capita basis. Therefore using Scotland’s GDP figure of $216/£139 billion and looking at the revenue percentage of the North Sea, Scotland only gets a 8.3% share, of course you'll know that. This is shocking as 80% of all the North Sea oil fields lie in Scottish water, therefore that leaves 71.7% which goes to England. How will we cope with independence then...? It's not us suffering, but England.
Also within the GDP, Scotland has had to contribute to Nuclear Weapons and Weapons of Mass Destruction. This would be wiped effectively.
Rather than look at figures, Scotland’s geographical position can be taken in better consideration. Looking at Scotland’s closest neighbour, Norway up north. Norway has similar natural resources, similar climate, occupies a similar part of the globe, with roughly the same population of 4.9 million.
And following Norway’s GDP;
GDP NOR $485.8/£312.5 billion, with a pop of 4.9 million
Norway is ranked the 2nd richest country by GPD per-capita and has NOT wasted its oil wealth. They have managed to build a fund of $640/£411 billion solely from their oil fields. Norway’s income from these funds cover 11% of its national spending.
You know what, I could continue. There are many other benefits for Scotland to become independent but I guess it is wasted here. Food for thought though.
For one, we are not better off in the UK, we can be a strong little nation like Norway or even New Zealand. We should be proud to be Scottish and not just settle to be British.. We are so much better than that. Say yes.
Any Scots who are unionists shouldn't vote. If we can't survive on our own then why are the English so desperate to hang on to us. If you are a Scot but British first then you shouldn't represent a Scottish independence referendum. And anyone who says Scotland can't produce enough to support itself is wrong. We are the biggest wave and wind power producers in Europe and have 25 percent of the oil in Europe. In truth from the oil alone we would get 71 billion pounds .
We fought two wars for independence won both... Had a referendum in 1979 for independence and were here again.... Does that not tell you that the first decision was wrong and that the 2 wars fought were a waste of blood and sweat? We are being tricked at every corner! Wake up!
It's their country and if the majority want it back then give it to them as long as if their economy , health service etc goes down the pan they dont start asking to be helped out and lets face it who wants to be associated with a country where the men run round in skirts and have got furry purses dangling in front of them
The Scottish Government intends to hold a referendum of the Scottish electorate on the issue of independence from the UK in 2014. While the principle issues are economic policy and defence arrangements, the main interest will be whether Scotland should remain part of the United Kingdom, and/or the European Union.
From a Scottish point of view, Scotland would officially be one of the worlds richest countries – ranked 6th in the OECD compared to the UK’s 16th place. They have 24 billion barrels of oil remaining in the North Sea, according to the oil industry. That is £1.5 trillion in todays prices, half as much in value as has been taken out. They also have around 25 per cent of Europe’s potential offshore wind and tidal energy – and a tenth of Europe’s wave power. An extra 45% of renewable energy was generated in Scotland last year. It is more than needed and can be exported for cash.
Other countries also want to invest there, and Scotland can be even more attractive to potential employers by being independent. Independence will also allow Scotland to keep services such as the NHS and the welfare stat, but in England they are being privatised and cut. Benefits are being taken from the needy and the SNP cannot stop that under present powers. They have five of the top universities in the world, and independence will be able to support their economy and give students some of the best packages of support in Europe with no fees for pupils from Scotland. If Scotland got back what they sent south in tax then every Scot would have £510 extra every year.
The only tax the Scottish government controls now is council tax but this has been blocked by the SNP. If they controlled fuel duty, national insurance, VAT and income tax they would have even more money. From a British point of view they would have more money. Britain send far more to Scotland in aid and support than they ever receive in tax. The people also do not want Scotland to vote on things only concerning England Wales and NI because recently Scotland have been rejecting things not to do with them, which could be a move by Alex Salmond to distance Scottish MPs from the rest of Britain.
I would like to finish on some statistics given in different polls which show the Scottish people currently support this view. In 5 different polls run by the SNP it shows in all over 50% would vote for independence, under a quarter against and the rest undecided.
Over several decades the percentages in votes by Scottish MPs compared to England has always and continue to show just how different we are as a country and we yet we continue to ignored. Scotland could be a very prosperous country on it's own and we should look to countries like Norway and Sweden who have similar populations.
The UK government is also a war mongering government and is in the US back pocket as it still hangs on to the idea it is still a force to be reckoned with. We can stand strong on our own and we will not be pulled down by those clowns in Westminster who inflict 'austerity' across the UK but give their mates massive payouts and MP pay rises, yet have frozen public sector wages going on 4 years.
Lets make our own decisions.
Scotland is not Tory and never will be. Wee Clegg has ruined the Liberal, Labour is non-existent ... That's argument enough. Some of my, many, English friends actually believe that the Scots would be mad to let this opportunity go ... They would love to have the possibility to be Tory Free!!
Scotland, like any other nation on this planet, deserves the right to be able to decide what happes in it's own country and how. With it's own legal, health, education and administration systems and a strong economy easily capable of expanding, Scotland deserves the right to be able to spend it's own earned revenue on the areas and sectors it believes need investing in. However, with the reigns of Westminister and the rest of the UK to be concerned about, Scotland is not given the freedom it should have.
We cannot let the unionists hold us back any longer. We have to rise up and take our place in the world . Scotland currently contributes 10.4 percent of the UK's taxes with only 8.4 percent of the UK's population . We cannot stand things like spending 2 billion pounds a year on a weapon system that could wipe out the world. The equivalent of this is 30 schools 10 hospitals and 25,000 average wage jobs!
Scotland has the making of its own nation already; own sports teams, flag, MSP's (members of Scottish Parliament), Is already well into using alternative energies with its wind, tidal and wave power, has high employment and educational standards. 5 of its universities are ranked in the top 100 in the world, has high tourist numbers and tourist attractions and it is a nation that still wears its history on its sleeve.
No country in the world should impose their will over another. Perhaps, the Scottish people do not find their nationality identified alongside the English and the Welsh and they simply have the right to choose for themselves no matter what the English and the Welsh people think about it. Moreover, i think they never felt satisfied and valued enough when it comes to their being united.
As I've said above, I don't mind being governed by a party, not of my choosing if that party is the democratically elected one, but we are governed in Scotland by the Tories (yeah, I know the Libs are involved, but REALLY!!!). The Tories don't hold a single seat in Scotland.
Yes, I do think we have the financial viability to be independent.
Yes, I am proud of my nation and would like my own NATIONAL identity.
Oh, and I've just been told by an Englishman, that the 'union' is theirs and they should be the ones to decide who goes and who stayed in it!!!
We are a clever, inventive, tough bunch of people up here in Scotland. There is no doubt that we can manage fine on our own. Remember there is no such thing as a Scottish Tory, Labour, Liberal party. These are English parties run from westminster, and only power hungry greedy money grabbing traitors want to keep the union. The true wealth of Scotland has been denied the Scottish people for centuries. Take this last chance to break away from the Elite ruling Engish class. If we are free, we could even help the down trodden english working people as well.
Look at other small countries, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, Norway, Switzerland and Iceland. These smaller countries are doing well at the moment and have better say from their government. Also we didn't vote in the government at Westminster and we're being ran by them and we don't even have a lot to do with them.
We would be more like Norway. <--- they used a lot of oil wealth and turned it into renewable energy
8th richest in the world, 6th by population, 3rd/4th in resources.
I believe Scotland should become an independent nation as in my opinion the pros out weigh the cons.
I really don't like that fat Alex Salmond and his stupid freedom hungry braveheart shouting party. They claim to speak for all of Scotland as the Scottish Nationalist Party. I strongly disagree with the SNP forcing the yes vote on people claiming that it is unpatriotic to vote no. It actually insults the intelligence of the Scottish people to base the yes vote on been patriotic. If fat Alex Salmond spent a little more time been honest with the Scottish people and explaining that this is a huge step and yes it could turn out to be the wrong one but if we get this right we could be a rich self governed wealthy country. Its a little bit like when a young bird fly's the nest, The young bird in question knows it can sit in the nest and have the Mother bring food back and be looked after but as the young bird gets older the Mother wont bring as much back as she once did. But what if the young bird had to fly the nest and go it alone? Things could be much different! That young bird could have all the food it wanted! We could even relate it to a teenager leaving home, Yes everything is hunky dory at home living with the parents but how much fun could it be to leave and make your own path? I feel Scotland is restricted by the chains of the parasites from Westminster who take from us and give nothing back! I am not against the English people I am against their Government. There is too many English people that go on about Scottish people stealing all of the benefits. I personally think this is a shallow dig at us Scottish from immature uneducated delinquents that have no clue about life. If Scotland was to become independent things wont be smooth and easy, We will have to scream and shout to get things the way we want them, Firstly we need to get rid of fat Alex Salmond! Scotland doesn't have have many good politicians at all which saddens me. We lack politicians that actually want us to succeed. Alex Salmond only cares about getting his name in the history books! Yes we have our Whiskey, Oil, Fishing, Water, And some more valuable industries and they may say they will collapse after so many years but we wont know unless we go for it and find out! If Scotland becomes Independent the first thing we should do is stop the English water tanker that comes to Scotland everyday for the royal family's drinking water and then Ill join the army and guard the borders with a claw hammer :) Just the opinion of a stupid unemployed 23 year old :)
Look at the facts. Scotland wants independence however the English government does not because they NEED us. If they didn't they would let us go quicker than a heartbeat. We supply Britain with oil which they need and without us they would begin to go dry while for the next 30 odd years we will flourish and this is plenty of time to gain another resource which we can use to remain stable. Then look to the past Scotland has managed to survive on its own for a long time against oppression from many people's and still stand strong. Also ''Great'' Britain was started by a Scottish King so the Scottish people should be aloud to choose if we want to be independent. If you are a true Scotsperson you should say YES.
I don't know why people are so desperate to keep Scotland in Britain. It's been 300 years, I'm sure they know by know how to manage a country by themselves. Look at Ireland, it's fine. Scotland can't really screw up because there's the EU for a shoulder to lean on so they can't really be in jeopardy. Plus the Scots can finally be truly recognized. When you hear the name 'Britain' the image of London or England will pop into most people's minds in the rest of the world, which isn't really fair since the Scottish culture is unique from the other kingdoms. Let Scotland have the spotlight shine on them. Britain, particularly England, will still be fine since most of the British government revolves mostly around there anyways.
We can create a country more in line with our own views. We can have control of our own decisions. Not controlled by governments that we don't vote for. No trident, no silly wars. No selfish politicians.
We will get to control our own natural resources. Go Scotland, vote for independence.
We can see now that resources we have is sustainable and will be able to use them to our full capacity after a Yes vote. The IMF says we can be the 8th richest country if independent also we can make the decisions for ourselves and vote in a government that we voted for?
I would like Scotland to be a country were it can elect its own government, not led by a government that only has one Tory MP here. A country that believes in a fairer society such as preventing austerity cuts that majority of MSP's voted against but Westminster are imposing it on us anyway and a country that no longer holds the nuclear trident which is said to cost us 250 million per year and that we simply don't want such dangerous weaponry here. We're taxed the most in the UK which pretty much means we subsidize the UK, taking away the myth that were subsidized by Westminster. The Scottish Parliament has done tremendous with the limited powers it has, just think how even better it would be if full powers are given.
I am 62 years old and have always supported labour and the uk.Since the tories came to power they have set about detroying the uk.They are just filling there own pockets with everybodies money .We have only one tory mp in scotland but we have to obey them. The labour party has now turned right wing as well so i have no party in the uk to vote for.How the english cant see how corrupt this government is and get rid of them i dont understand.I never thought we could get a more right wing pm than thatcher but david cameron could teach her a few lessons.As you can see i will have no other options but to vote for independence and hope for the best.Thanks for taking the time to read my argument.
I believe that it is fundamentally better for us all, if decisions about Scotland’s future are taken by the people who care most about Scotland, that is the people of Scotland.
An added bonus is that Scotland would no longer have to subsidise the rest of the UK.
In addition, we could get rid of the largest arsenal of nuclear weapons from the doorstep of our largest city.
I came to the yes side quite late. I screamed vote no vote no for a long time until one day a decided to really read what the yes side where saying and not just state I was right and they were wrong. It was a debate on this very website I read and I asked until I was introduced to clause 4 of the founding labour party. I am a socialist and followed the labour party at the time but when I was told about clause 4 I decided to stop supporting the labour party clause 4 is where the party stated that it would be a party of socialism an a party for the unions and the workers. Clause 4 is the reason why I liked the labour party I found out that Tony Blair removed clause 4 and was allowed to do it. Why will I vote yes because I want a party that will follow the ideas of clause 4 and an independent Scottish labour party in an independent Scotland might just be able to and that to me is to good a chance the only real chance.
The United Kingdom has become a greedy, think-only-of-yourself-and-screw-the-rest society led by the biggest hypocrites ever elected.
I happen to think the Scottish people have more compassion for their fellow citizens and will make better decisions than what we are getting from London.
Believe in yourselves!
Although there are some con's in association with an independent Scotland, there are significantly more pro's.
1. Democracy, sovereignty and the right to self determination: The Scot's should decide which government is best suited to help the needs of the people of Scotland, not another government pulling the strings who the Scots didn't even elect. That's totalitarianism, dictatorial and morally indefensible.
2. A voice, despite how small, on the world stage: The UK, by European standards is seen just as "England", and the rest of the kingdom is seen as an irrelevance. So essentially we're imperialist colonies, rather than equal partners. An independent Scotland would have a voice on the world stage and make the choices which suit the needs best by the people of Scotland.
3. Solidarity: The shear deficit of solidarity within the UK is colossal. England cares only for England's interests and no other part of the kingdom; evidence of this is the rise of UKIP. The Scot's interests have always been secondary. I believe good neighbours are better than bad tenants.
4. Nuclear Weaponry: The Scot's had no say where these weapons should be placed and were placed in our land against our will non the less. An independent Scotland can get rid of WMD and that money can then be used to create jobs to make the economy grow.
5. A national health service rather than a privatised one. So our elderly and most vulnerable won't have to worry about the dismantling of the welfare state imposed on us by the austere government we didn't even elect.
6. Natural renewable resources: we can implement technology to our vast natural resources which would be best to benefit the people of Scotland.
7. Fiscal responsibility: it is nonsense that we have power over our police force, health service, education and law system, but we do not have the power to raise our own taxes. No logical argument can be presented to explain why this is reasonable; because it isn't.
8. The rise of English nationalism: Most important point. We believe in cooperation with our trading partners and neighbours, but due to the rise of UK nationalism and UKIP, we may be pulled out of the EU against our will, which in my view is frightening and the only way to remain with the family of nations is to become independent and renegotiate our terms or re-apply.
The Scots are simply a different people than the English. It would seem logical that they should have their own country as a general rule of self determination. As an American I do not know what the majority opinion is among the Scots on this isssue, however it seems logical for them to be their own country. They have elected representatives to the British Parliament who favor secession, which does seem to point to that method as a final and logical conclusion.
Its about standing on our own two feet, Its about the Scottish people making the decisions that effect them, Time after time Scotland has a government imposed on them, a Government we did not vote for, Its time we had the government we vote for! Reflecting the values and priorities of the Scottish people, We here in Scotland are a sovereign nation basically ruled by another country, all major things effecting us are made by that country, Thats just not acceptable for the people of Scotland, Despite all the veiled threats and scare stories Scotland will vote for Independence, I dearly hope its this time but it will happen its an unstoppable train,
Scotland to remain an integral part of the EU, England will I fear vote to leave, this fear of the EU is not the same issue in Scotland as it is in England. Removal of Trident and any other weapons of mass destruction from Scotland. To manage the superb natural assets which Scotland has been blessed with rather than see these be wasted by the uncaring and uninterested hands of the Westminster based government. To ensure that the NHS is retained and enhanced in Scotland rather than allow what is happening in England as more and more of the service provisions of the NHS are privitised to companies pursuing profits rather than care. Retain and improve Scotlands education system.
It should be the desire of any country to control its own affairs. I believe we shall be a strong and resilient nation. I do not wish to have Trident on my doorstep. I do not for a moment assume it will all be straightforward, but it will be worth the struggle and I hope that we shall become a nation where there is less disparity between rich and poor and that people will aspire to improve themselves.
There is no need for argument any more. Factual positive conclusions for a "yes" vote are continuously more evident as scotland advances with self determination to independence as a nation. God grant scotland the strength to help our uk neighbours free themselves from the politics of lies deceit and fear.
Independence is not about one party or one view and policy. The same way that the Union wasn't about one government. But over 300 years of different governments, the union has developed into one of the most unequal societies in the World, that we have no real control over. Independence is about trusting the Scottish people to elect the right governments for Scotland and shaping the Scotland we all want over the next 300 years and more. Who is to say that policies we decide now will even be relevant in 20 years. So this has nothing to do with any immediate shift in direction or plan and it would be irresponsible to think such a thing. - - - So all the garbage about the uncertainty of Independence should be welcomed with a faith that the Scottish people will drive us through. Lets not kid ourselves, we have all the same uncertainties if we remain in the union. But ask yourself a simple question. - Where would you rather be??? - At the wheel or in the passenger seat? ;)
The oil is not running out. Latest forecasts more than 50 years. Scotland pays more in tax than it gets back. The only people who continually refer to Braveheart are Unionists. Yes people do not hate England or the English and have NEVER said so. Many supporters of independence are English who have moved here (my neighbours) for a start. Read the many papers prepared on the viability of an Independent Scotland.
If you have a good argument about the benefits of the union, rather than scare stories or emotive references to WW2 or 300 years of Union (what has a particular length of time got to do with anything) or ill informed and pathetic ad hominem attacks. Submit it.
Sadly I think that G.B. Shaw was correct: Most people would rather die than think.
What Independence gives us is simply the facility to make decisions based on what the people who live in Scotland want for their own country. They will not be just the policies of the SNP because both Labour and Tory parties will develop their own programmes which will be distinctively Scottish rather than adaptations of their respective London leaderships. This will allow a fresh vigour to enter the entire body politic in Scotland. To suggest voting no because you do not like a particular party or policy is to ignore the capacity for fresh thinking Independence will bring to all parties.
Scotland is a sovereign country and the Scots should decide their own destiny and not by another sovereign country (England) which dominates the UK Parliament at all times. Scotland has subsidised the UK whilst the people of Scotland are always being told by the UK Government that they are subsidising the Scots. People should come before weapons of mass destruction. I am Scottish by birth but British by law and that is crazy as there is no such country as Britain. It is the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland.
Scotland should become independent for three simple reasons:
1/ No country is best governed by a Parliament outwith it's borders.
2/ No country ever became wealthier by giving the entirety of it's revenue and taxation to it's neighbour.
3/ The arguments against (suggesting that Scotland will not be able to keep it's currency or it's geographical resources) suggest that after three hundred years of Union - three hured years of fighting and dying for and financing the British state - we a seen as owning nothing. It is as if we have only been renting a room all these centuries, were never equals, and the clear implication is that we have never been seen as equal partners or anything approaching it. The position of the UK Government is clearly that they automatically own everything, including the pounds in our pockets. I disagree strongly with that view.
Of the four nations that make up the UK (Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland) Scotland has the highest GDP per capita, the most natural resources and the lowest unemployment. Scotland also ranks top for attracting foreign investment. From that point of view independence is completely achievable.
Small European nations also tend to prosper. Denmark, Norway, Ireland, Switzerland all rank higher than the UK for quality of life in the Human Development Index. I don't see why Scotland would be any less capable that these countries.
But the most compelling arguments are social and moral. The Scottish public has been anti nuclear for a long time. Despite this the UK bases its entire nuclear arsenal in Scotland. Scotland also doesn't vote for the same political parties England does. The current UK government was utterly rejected by Scots yet won regardless due to the sheer size of the English electorate. That same government is now pursuing a crippling austerity agenda that is targeting the country's poorest.
All in all Scotland is smart enough, rich enough and just plain awesome enough to run itself. I would be so proud to be part of an independent Scotland.
I have been old enough to vote in elections in Scotland for 23 years. With the exception of elections to the Scottish parliament, the views of the Scottish people have NEVER made any difference to the government in office, elected to Westminster. We have always been inflicted with a government decided by the rUK and as a result, those governments have been out-of-touch with the needs and wants of my country.
From 1980's, the Labour Party in Scotland had 49/50 MP's out of 72 but we repeatedly had Tory governments. Today, Scotland has only 1 Tory MP and 11 Lib Dems out of 59! Again the Labour Party won 41 seats but we Scots got a ConDem government we did not elect.
The Scottish parliament was re-convened in 1999 and for the first time in my adult life, my vote was not wasted. I didn't get the result I hoped for but, the election process ensured my vote and everyone else's in Scotland, for that matter, was represented fairly.
While we do not have the full powers we need to secure our future and look after the best interest's of the Scottish people, first and foremost, we will forever be at the mercy of our London masters who care more for their rich and powerful friends, than the people they have been elected to serve.
Who better to serve the people of Scotland, than those elected by the people of Scotland.
Scotland, fundamentally, is a different nation - politically - to England. Whether it's protecting Scottish institutions like Education, or the NHS, or our water, or our stance in the energy sector, or the nation's overwhelming position on Binning nuclear weapons - or simply having a say in our own affairs - I have no doubt the Country is capable, and further, would benefit enormously from Independence.
I'm tired, oh so tired, of the NO campaigns 'position' and comment - not because I don't wish them to add something to the debate (I do) but because they have said absolutely *nothing* of consequence - other than churn out fib-after-fib, scaremongering their way through the available media like a pack of delirious Private Frasers.
Their alternative, it would seem, is to suggest that we're much better off with spectral Toryism - be that blue, red or yellow Tory - administered by a right-wing greedy elite consistently poised to threaten everything from our drinking water, to our doctors, to our energy sector.
And energy is a good example of why we need to ditch London. We're about to see the nation run on 50% green energy - and the reality is we've scarcely tapped into it. Oil? Throw it in the pension kitty.
Finally, contrary to NO campaign myth, Scotland is not going to float away into the Atlantic and see our connections with our neighbours dissolve.
What a ridiculous and adolescent notion. Unionist MSPs in Edinburgh purport to acting for both Britain and Scotland. I put it to you that you cannot serve the relevant needs of a nation of some 5-million whilst aspiring to do the will, also, of London and England. What nonsense. For example, Scotland does not need Nuclear power, nuclear weapons, or hoardes of corporate privateers handling our banks. If we act to that end, but cannot due to London need, then the Union is seen for the fudge it is.
The reality is, dear friends, London needs Scotland. For all our futures, we certainly do not need London.
The Uk is not working for Scotland. With Independence we will have the leavers to be in control of our own destiny. We have done a much better job with regards to health, education, care for the elderly etc. Why couldn't we also do better on matters such as defence and the economy? Why is Scotland the only country that cannot run her own affairs? It's not, the UK is in a mess and we should trust ourselves to do better!
Scotland is better than 1 in 5 of our children living in poverty. Scotland is more then a nuclear dumping ground for waste and unwanted Trident missile systems. We deserve to have a government we have actually voted for to make all the decisions that effect our lives ; not a government which virtually has no representation and is in no way wanted by our people.
We can use our vast oil and gas reserves to help fund a stronger government based in Scotland elected by the people, compromising of the people and working hard for the people ; not their own selfish inward interests. We can utilise our incredible renewable energy potential to heat our homes, to attract new industries and to create sustainable long term employment. We can keep money raised by our taxes in our country, rather than sending it south for less pocket money in return. We can build better homes, better roads, better transport links, create jobs and become better off in our daily lives.
Scotland doesn’t deserve to be crippled by the UK any longer. We deserve better not only for ourselves, for our self confidence, for our self respect and personal pride but we owe it to our children and future generations. Lets not saddle them with a dying UK economy, endless cuts, no welfare system whatsoever, privately run NHS, Tories and more Tories, failure and ultimately poverty and misery. Lets pick up the reins of our country now and never look back. Lets take control of our lives. Lets take control of our destiny.
I urge each and every Scot to vote YES in 2014.
We keep getting a government down South the majority here in Scotland did not vote for. Westminster does not work in Scotland's best interest as proven in the past. A Scottish government will be more accountable and approachable to the citizens here. Money and resources here will build a fairer and just society.
Although I'm an Englishman, I support the Scottish right to self determination, although I envy that right. We were all supposedly born free & that freedom was brought about by the sacrifice of millions in two world wars.
The ruling elite don't want us to be free, they want us all to be subservient to them for ever. The only way to stop this, is the break up of the UK, this will only happen if Scotland votes yes to leaving the Union. I wish you all the best & I hope that Scotland & England can remain as good friends as neighbours.
Reason: For the people of Scotland to be completely in charge their own destiny, control their own finances, defence, foreign relations, health, and all things that matter to people in a free and independent country, from Afghanistan to Zanzibar, who all seem to manage well enough without the kind helping hand of the Westminster government.
Can anyone name me a nation that has rejected independence when it has been offered? I'd genuinely like to know if one exists. At the moment I am
struggling to understand why there seem to be so many Scots who delight in rubbishing the abilities of their own people. Have they no pride at all?
Its simple Scotland has the resources and the talent to make it work. We need a government we actually voted for so democracy is a big issue as well. We can only achieve this with a YES vote. No more illegal wars, no more weapons of mass destruction on the clyde, YES TO A FAIRER WEALTHIER SOCIETY! It will not be all plain sailing but it will be a huge improvement.
Scotland will continue to be asset-stripped by a cash hungry Westminster government we did not want or elect. We have subsidised the UK for over 30 years now, and that's not even counting the oil taken from our waters and pumped into Downing Street's coffers. Only independence will stop this: nothing less.
My Parents came from the Glasgow area and had always felt that Westminster put the Scottish people down. They came to America in 1932 to get away from English rule. I am a proud Scot and feel that Scotland should be free of Westminster and allowed to govern themselves, which is the way it should be!
The Scottish people should always get the government they vote for., not what England votes for. Scotland is a wealthy country. We make up 8.4% of UK population, generate 9.9% of UK taxes but only receive 9.3% of UK spending. For more info go to -YEsScotland.Net. Scotland is the EU largest oil producer. We have 96% of UK oil, 52% gas, 25% offshore EU wind and tide potential and 10% of EU wave power. The whisky industry generates £4.2 billion of exports - 23% of UK food and drinks exports, the food and drink industry is worth 10billion, with fish & aquaculture Scotland's largest food export. Tourism generates £5 billion , agriculture 2.7 billion. For unbiased opinion go to Newsnet Scotland.
As a nation we have been governed by Westminster for too long, with no understanding of our culture or traditions. Its an exiting time for our country and its people, I look forward to an Independent Scotland! Scotland has always had an abundance of natural resources and talent which hopefully will now be put to good use as an Independent country instead of being squandered away.
It will bring democracy to Scotland, fairness, prosperity, and a place in the world. Democracy - we will always get the government we vote for. Fairness - Britain is one of the most unequal countries in the civilised world. Prosperity - our resources will be put to much better use (not illegal wars or nuclear weapons). We will have a seat at the top of the EU, in Nato, and the UN.
I fully support Scotland being an independent nation, I can completely understand why they would want too, and I do feel that Scotland does have the capability of surviving as an independent nation in terms of resources for domestic and exporting use, unemployment is an issue no matter what country you are in. My only concern would be that in England and the UK many political parties come in saying what they want, what needs to be done, and what gets done, and countless time have we seen backtracking of original plans and ideas when they come into power, which is terrible enough in circumstances such as the Lib Dem saying there would be no tuition fee increases, yet lone behold there was, and countless more examples of this also which I'm sure most of you can agree on, so all be it I am English, I think the Scottish deserve there independence, but I think it could be a very risky move as many things could go wrong, all be it hopefully they do not.
It goes without saying that the people of Scotland are best placed to make the best decisions for their own country. No more need for the Scottish Cringe, We can stand for something different and positive. We will stand tall, socially, politically and of course economically. Soar Alba and vote YES.
Westminster will never facilitate far less even allow for the kind of fair and egalitarian society to which the majority of Scots express a desire. We have a unique society as a nation and as such we should stand up and take responsibility for our own affairs. It is enormously unhealthy for the collective psyche to believe that it must defer to perceived higher powers. This is essentially a class struggle and a predominantly left wing driven movement. The structural failures of the current democracy have been identified and the solutions are available to us only when we decide to implement them. This requires he full re-empowerment of our sovereign parliament.
Scotland's path in the world is determined by voters in another country.
They have consistently taken a route that doesn't reflect the interests of Scotland: Trident; imperial foreign policy; sovereignty of parliament rather than of the people; lack of wealth distribution; stigmatising the poor and sick; wide-scale privatisation of public services; broadcasting and media presenting the news through London's eyes; the list is endless.
This democratic deficit has to change! The UK has never been democratically viable; serving only a bloated Westminster establishment. This is about the people who live in Scotland taking full responsibility for Scotland's affairs, both at home and abroad. It is not about anti-Englishness, or any sort of 'narrow nationalism' as the Unionists like to portray. In fact, the only 'narrow nationalism' I see is the jingoistic, Union-Flag waving British nationalism, reminiscent of former empire, when Britain was putting the 'Fuzzie Wuzzies' to the bayonet.
Scotland is a wealthy nation, contributing more to The Treasury than we get back, yet we have no control over these revenues. The distribution of wealth serves only a few, while most ordinary people have less financial certainty.
We can either stick with a parasitical political establishment at Westminster, or we can shape a modern nation in our own image for the benefit of the people who live here. Vote Yes!
Better the devil you can vote out than the one you can't. Currently it doesn't matter who the Scots vote for, the disparity in population means we're ruled by whoever's voted in down South. Both the parties with any real clout in Westminster are following the same neoliberal agenda, one that's ruining the country, as they try to edge far enough to the right to please "middle England". A quick glance at the polling results at general, regional or local elections in Scotland reveals that the Scots would like to be governed differently. Independence is how we can make that happen.
When it comes to Scotlands place in the UK, we are constantly overruled by MP's etc that we do not vote for. To be told how to run our lives by politicians with little to no support in Scotland, is not democratically just, and should be amended. The only way for this is Independence.
Scotland can afford it, it's the only thing both sides agree on, that Scotland could thrive as an Independent nation. When even the NO campaign admit this, it is only the blind followers that ignore the facts, that still claim Independence is not possible. It's time to get on with it, we need to dissolve this union before it is foisted upon us when the resources run out and we are no longer "needed".
The Union is broken, its orinal purpose, to secure England's northern border from possible French invasion and ensure the Hanoverian succession, is well passed.
The British (English) Empire is no more and no longer needs educated Scots to run it in far off places. Westminster is now a right wing, coursing towards fascist, political arena at odds with Scotland's innate social democrat / socialist leanings.
The glue that bound the Union has been dissolved away by successive Governments since 1979 as Westminster Government after Westminster Government have desecrated and then destroyed the fundamental purpose of the 1948 Health and Welfare Act to the point that now the last vestiges in England are being privatised by the back door whilst the Westminster party of the 'NHS and Welfare' sit on their collective hands.
The 'Yes' vote is not about 'the economy stupid', the Scottish enomy is health and always has been for over 40 years, the 'Yes' vote is about the sort of Scotland we Scots want to leave our children. Across the political and social spectrum from trade union members to big business is not the Scotland on offer from Westminster with its meanness, me too small mindedness. Neo-liberal greed and screw the poor policies.
The Yes vote is not about 'Salmond' it is about the Scotland we want to create, the Scotland where 'We're aa Jock Tamson's bairns' is not just a thought but as near a reality as is humanly possible.
1) Even those who favour Westminster rule agree that
an independent Scotland can thrive.
2) An independent Scotland would be the eighth wealthiest
country in the world.
3) Our oil reserves are worth up to £1.5 trillion -
ten times our share of the UK national debt.
4) We have very successful food, drink, tourism, construction
and agriculture sectors. Worth £39 billion a year
5) We have three of the top 100 universities in the world.
Our universities compete at the top of the world leagues
for the quality of their research.
6) We have around 25% of Europe’s potential offshore wind and
tidal energy and 10%of Europe’s wave power potential.
7) Our public finances are stronger than the UK's.
For every one of the last 30 years Scotland has generated more
tax revenue per head than the UK.
8) Scotland tops the UK charts for levels of inward investment
by foreign companies.
Because when Scotland (a country) signed a Union with England the treaty was already then heavily weighted in England's favour. Scotland is no longer treated as a country but instead a region by this United Kingdom government. This government is also too big and top-heavy and is no longer fit for purpose, the same as the treaty of Union. It must go and Scotland needs to start afresh and find its way in the world. Should Scotland become an independent country - YES.
We are, or would be one of the wealthiest nations in the world and we have a different outlook on many items than those in England. It's time we took our own affairs into our own hands. We should not be losing soldiers in foreign lands that have nothing to do with us.
We need to stop subsidising London and suffering their policies, which we typically vote against - but have them enforced anyway. Scotland should be able to utilise it's own oil wealth ....Which is due to last 100 years (rather than the repeated 10 reported by britnats!) ....BUT - however long or short that term is, it will help us put our own country back on its feet, gain proper control of energy policy, remove energy POVERTY and set up a proper sovereign wealth fund for the future. Most importantly of all - we can have a genuine democracy, get the governments we actually vote for and affect our own policies, designed for our country and people ....Not to suit the south east of England.
It is the only sensible option, 5m people who have not had a government they have voted for in 100 years. Its not about being anti anything or anyone - its about 5m people in a proud nation taking back control of the decisions that effect them. I'm 100% behind a Yes.
There is no morally or logically justifiable reason why Scots should continue to be denied the right to enjoy those normal levels of self determination that other nations take for granted.
Scottish resources and self government should be used to ensure Scots can attain fulfillment here without having to go migrate elsewhere for financial reasons or to avoid denigration of their cultural identity by an ex-imperial mindset. Scottish families do not need to be split up. Scottish children do not need to be taught they are inferior.
Scotland should become independent to control our own affairs we are a prosperous nation we have all the resources we need to become and be a stabalised nation i dont understand the people who argue that they don't want to become independent in their reasons being their for the dislike of first minister alex salmond be it religion be it having relatives from england this isn't about hating the english its not about one man alex salmond this is about the people of scotland having the gonads big enough to take their own destiny into their own hands why do the westminster politicians not want to let go of us because they know how much we put into the kingdom we call united let us be free let us prosper let us be that nation again :-)
Scotland is better than 1 in 5 of our children living in poverty. Scotland is more then a nuclear dumping ground for waste and unwanted Trident missile systems. We deserve to have a government we have actually voted for to make all the decisions that effect our lives ; not a government which virtually has no representation and is in no way wanted by our people.
We can use our vast oil and gas reserves to help fund a stronger government based in Scotland elected by the people, compromising of the people and working hard for the people ; not their own selfish inward interests. We can utilise our incredible renewable energy potential to heat our homes, to attract new industries and to create sustainable long term employment. We can keep money raised by our taxes in our country, rather than sending it south for less pocket money in return. We can build better homes, better roads, better transport links, create jobs and become better off in our daily lives.
Scotland doesn't deserve to be crippled by the UK any longer. We deserve better not only for ourselves, for our self confidence, for our self respect and personal pride but we owe it to our children and future generations. Lets not saddle them with a dying UK economy, endless cuts, no welfare system whatsoever, privately run NHS, Tories and more Tories, failure and ultimately poverty and misery. Lets pick up the reins of our country now and never look back. Lets take control of our lives. Lets take control of our destiny.
I urge each and every Scot to vote YES in 2014.
Scotland is a very wealthy country but suffers poverty because her wealth is siphoned off by Westminster to pay for WMD, Tax cuts for the rich, and major infrastructure for England like HS2 that will not be coming to Scotland also projects like London's sewage system. These are just a few of the ways Scotland subsidises the rest of UK but suffers herself, but mostly it's about democracy as Scotland can never have proper representation at Westminster because of it's small population as opposed to England's population size.
We have mostly had governments we didnt vote for. We could be bumped out of Europe due to the mainly eurosceptic South even though Scotland votes to stay in. Time te go it alone and we can do no worse than now. Despite all the scaremongering (yes scaremongering ...If you dont believe it check out their photo at the top of their page on Facebook regarding the pound) fae Better Together we can go it alone and merge into the world with little or no problems. They would like to make out we are some poor country but with all our resources and geographical location theres no way the EU or Nato would not let us join.
Everyone has to move out of their family home. In that way you learn how to use your own money, take responsibility for your own actions and get a long with family members you used to share a bedroom with. We have the resources, we have the people. No one has ever become independent and regretted it,no country has asked to return to the UK and neither will we.
I want to live in a genuine democracy. This is not possible under westminster rule or within the current uk structure. It's a simple matter of mathematics. England has 10x more people, and if they choose to vote a different way from scotland, they win the argument. There is no equality in this partnership and that can only be achieved in my view by both nations becoming independent. I would argue the same applies to ni and wales, but that's a matter for them.
Scotland needs Independence if we are to build a fairer more inclusive society. I have lost faith that this can be achieved under Westminster rule. I also want to see Scotland receive the type of government it elects and not have a foreign government imposed through Westminster. For instance the Liberals and Tories are both fringe parties in Scotland yet form the government in Westminster.
Lastly, it seems that Independence is the only way to remove weapons of mass destruction from the Clyde. Despite Britain being effectively bankrupt, its government is planning enormous expenditure to replace Trident, a useless relic left over from the cold war. This makes no sense unless you consider a seat on the Security Council more important than the welfare of your own citizenry, which most Westminster politicians of all parties clearly do.
Vote Yes in 2014.
Scotland is in an almost unique position as a subsidiary part of the United Kingdom. Europe abounds in small independent countries that thrive even in these troubled times - Norway, Denmark, Luxembourg are but three examples. Scotland could join them with a minimum of fuss, and henceforward have Government of Scots by Scots for Scots.
The debate so far has been completely dire from the No side.
The expectation that Yes should justify itself is completely wrong. There should be no need for a supporting Yes argument.
The argument should be from those who are saying Scotland shouldn't be independent, to present their case as to why it, uniquely among nations, shouldn't, & should remain 'dependent'.
So far, they seem strangely reticent to provide any sort of reasoning at all, let alone any positive case for the Union.
The real question is why has it taken you Scots so long to get to this stage. As long as you also take up your own currency It makes perfect sense to become independent. The debate is silly because there is no debate it is clear Scotland will be better off. You throw money away and to the queen I mean who are they to you? There is a catch however in this argument splitting from the UK won't be easy you will make lots of sacrifices but life is about sacrifices and fighting for change not just following the same rotten route. Starve the beast if theres corruption let those corrupt who benefit be your own people. The truth is independence takes bravery and struggling are you willing to fight for it because we wil not give it to you easily
Scotland is a nation blessed with many natural resources, most of which have been plundered to build London. It is the birth right of every Scot (those living/contributing in Scotland)to at least have the opportunity to enjoy this countries wealth. I for one want to see investment in Scotland, the retention of Scottish NHS and the benefits of the Scottish Governments management of the economy. I don't want my family to suffer because of lucrative privatisation schemes in London lining the pockets of the already obscenely rich at the expense of Scotland's block grant therefore further reducing the Scottish Governments ability to put Scotland's priorities first.
Under the present system Scotland will never get the party it votes for or the say it's entitled too. For 300 years The peoples of Scotland have not been heard and their needs and entitlements have not been met. Independence is a right....The majority of countries around the world enjoy this right...The word itself is such a positive and liberating word, oh why oh why in the hands of Westminster is it such a negative word with connotations of rebellion, bad, evil and unstable?
Even if we were "dirt poor", and lets face it if we were we would not be part of this union, we should have the right to govern ourselves. Independence is Scotland's only answer to a fair and just society.
Scotland is, it has been said, the country which shaped the 20th Century. From the Enlightenment with political and economic ideas to the wealth of inventions from antibiotics to radar, television, pneumatic tires and the rest. Scotland has punched well above her weight in world affairs. Recently we have had medical ultrasound, cloning of mammals, the postulation of the Higg's boson, beta-blockers all again world changing ideas and inventions. Four of our universities have recently been placed in the top 100 in the world for their impact on scientific research.
Our engineering sector is world renownd, even after Thatchers concerted attempts to destroy it.
We have on shore exports worth £3.9 billion per year, off shore exports in the same region. Our people are respected wherever in the world they choose to live.
A rich, thriving and successful country, used by the UK as a place to dump radioactive waste, as a place to keep their weapons of mass destruction away from English population centres but only 30 miles from the most populated area of Scotland. A place to enrich the south of England and to be told it's our fault we are poor. A place where out people are regularly characterised, in the media, as violent drunks and this then held up to us as a mirror.
To poor, too wee, too stupid We never have been to poor or too wee, we are now realising that our stupidity was limited to beleiving what we were told by London.
Who is best placed to make the decisions about Scotland? It seems obvious to me that it is the people living in Scotland. Independence allows us to make our own decisions - the normal situation elsewhere. People wouldn't accept the loss of decision making in their own lives - why accept it on a national level?
Westminster is not good at providing solutions to the problems which Scotland is faced with. As an independent country, Scotland and Holyrood will take the decisions which are needed to bring this historic nation back into the family of the international community. Scotland must be allowed to hold its head up, stand on its own feet and take responsibility for its own future, without the SE UK bias which typifies the Westminster process.
Vote YES and make Scottish history,
Vote NO and make Scotland history!
Because Scotland is a country. And countries are better when they make their own decisions. It is what normal grown-up countries do. Despite how independence for Scotland is presented by the press and the state broadcaster, it is not inherently a radical idea. It is entirely natural. Independence means normalising the constitutional arrangements for Scotland, nothing more, nothing less.
Because Scotland is a country. And countries are better when they make their own decisions. It is what normal grown-up countries do. Despite how independence for Scotland is presented by the press and the state broadcaster, it is not inherently a radical idea. It is entirely natural. Independence means normalising the constitutional arrangements for Scotland, nothing more, nothing less.
We are a forgotten country. For more than 300 years we have been invisable internationally. Domestically this had been catastrophic. As we have been powerless within the UK to defend our position and believes. No all this has changed, if we have the courage and vote YES. For our children, grand children, and all our future generation, this is the only option. Pass the word; vote YES.
This country is a viable country and is being misled and lied to by the government who see the loss of Scotland as a death blow to the rUK as they need Scottish oil to pay for the misdeeds of the casino bankers of London, meanwhile the Tories are in thrall of them and completely unwilling to take them to task for the criminal damage they have done to this country.
It is easier to blame the disabled and the poor, they don't bring any money in, but the bankers who nearly bankrupted this country walk away without a backward glance, get rid of these people and rebuild our economy on things that really matter, not financial transactions that can make a city spiv a rich man in hours, but the honest toil of honest men who build and create.
The recent financial crash was caused by the financial sector - the City of London and yet everyone else in the UK is feeling it's effects. The 'successes' of the City of London are shared between a few very wealthy people, yet all of us are paying the price for their failures - People are hungry, cold, dying. Yet in the past few years the richer have got richer and the poor poorer. The game is up.
The UK is governed for the benefit of London and the Thames Valley. In fact the UK is becoming 'London and the rest'. The result of this lop-sidedness is that people have to leave their country of birth to further their career, or worse, die prematurely because of poor living conditions. An independent Scotland can be richer, fairer and offer its citizens hope.
Scotland is a rich country with massive natural resources, we have different priorities to England
we don't want to be the worlds policeman spending billions on illegal wars and illegal weapons of
mass destruction. The monies saved could be used to invest in our people, our infrastructure and
policies that the people of Scotland vote for which are denied to us being part of the Westminster
What argument do you need that hasnt aready been said to describe the natural state of affairs for any independent country in the world and redress the 300 year shame of being the only country in europe to voluntary surrender its sovereignity, by a shady back room deal against the wishes of its people. Vote yes.
To live the life we are entitled to without the ideals of an English dominated Westminster foisted upon us on a daily basis. To regain a sense of social justice where we look after our elderly and infirm and give them a reason to live out their lives as comfortably as possible. To look after the more vulnerable in our society and give them some sense of dignity and encourage them to better themselves rather than demonise them as the current UK government is hell bent on doing. To look after our young and educate them to ever increasing higher standards than we currently have. To reinvigorate that Scottish inventiveness that has made us world renowned for excellence in many fields. But, most of all, to take pride in what we are and what we can become, GREAT.
For pretty much ever since i knew about Scotland (i live in Italy) I always thought that scotland was in fact it's own country. I think that scotland can support itself as a nation and i am sure they already have their own form of government separate some what from england.
We are a rich country with resources in oil, gas and renewable energy. We export Food, Whisky, Electricity and far too many well educated people who can't find gainful employment in their own country. We need the levers of power. We need to retain the taxes that emanate from our economy without it passing through greedy Westminster hands. We need to use the proceeds from the conservatively valued oil reserves in our territorial water of £1.5 trillion pounds. I'm sure there's far more ...........Will that do?
As it IS a country, or a nation, it has a perfect right to its own political independence and to the full control of its own resources. Why should its affairs be controlled by the government of another nation? What other country would tolerate such a state of affairs? It might share sovereignity with say, the EU, but this would be on its own terms, decided by its own people.
Economically, UK is in a terminal downward spiral - independence is the only chance to escape this totentanz. Scotland has enviable natural resources and more than capable of going it alone.
And also the slavish adherence to US foreign policy (Wars, Trident, Drones) is making the entire country highly vulnerable to terrorists.
The people of Scotland have never been treated as equals in this union. Westminster government seem only to be interested in London and the south east of England. Also it has been proved that Scotland can prosper as an independent country.
With independence we can get rid of Trident, not get involved in foreign adventures, and care for the most needy in our society.
In 1770 210 Scottish passengers who were Catholic sailed away to Prince Edward Island Canada to be replaced by sheep & a religion they were unwilling to convert to. Since that time, Scotland has been robbed of its resources, with little being invested for communities.
Scotland's people are poor, sick, uneducated & forgotten. Lately Scots have been under even more scrutiny by the UK. They suffer from the imposition of even more burdensome laws resulting in them bearing the brunt of austerity measures imposed on them by London. In London, corporations can vote as if they are people just like Mitt Romney proposed in America.
Scotland needs British rule like it needs the queen. (No offense to the queen intended.)
Britain was built on risky trades, New Scotland will be built on whiskey & waves. I trust the good people of Scotland to see my poor ancestors finally be at rest, cause they didn't deserve what they got & its gotta be righted by the living. Scots seek a better life for themselves clean affordable energy, with a descent environment where you can also earn a living. Yes Scotland, it's your historic moment!
Why would you ever want someone else to run your affairs and make your decisions for you? Small, independent nations are the norm and Scotland is more than capable of taking it's place among the other nations of the world on an equal footing. We can debate and negotiate with the rest of the UK and the rest of the word on our own terms quite competently.
No Chance! Being part of the UK is dragging Scotland down. Scotland is a small country with vast resources which are sucked from her and utilized to prop up people & institutions which are not needed. The lords & hundreds of MPs who don't vote in the interest of Scotland. I don't want to see Scotland's NHS end up privatized like England. Stick with the union & it will happen, we know that because Scottish Labour MPs voted for it.
I strongly believe that by becoming independent Scotland will become a country with the ability to use its vast resources for the good of all the people who live here. At the moment the UK is run by Westminster largely for the benefit of the City of London sucking resources away from Scotland and paying scant regard to its needs. Consequently, the UK has grotesque levels of inequality, child poverty, crumbling infrastructure and an out-of control banking system to name but a few of the problems. There is also the Imperial mindset of Westminster which thinks we still need to spend £100 billion on new WMD so as to demonstrate their virility on the UN security council whilst unable to fund conventional armed forces as a consequence.
As happened in the eighties under Thatcher, the Scottish oil and gas resources are being squandered to prevent a further recession and prop up the political status quo instead of investing in the future by establishing an oil fund (Norway now has a fund worth > £450 billion, and has helped bail out UK by lending from this fund).
Independence will give Scotland the opportunity to rectify all these issues and provide us with a democratically elected government, not having a government we don't elect imposed on us from Westminster as happens more than 50% of the time.
I need a government that represents me. I need the decisions that affect Scotland and her people to be made here in Scotland, like it or not we have different needs and aspirations than the south of England.
Sure it won't be plain sailing, and we can expect quite a few changes not all good. But for the sake of our children and the generations that follow I will gladly get used to whatever currency ends up in my pocket, so long as it will still buy my bread it makes little difference.
I see nothing but a continued slide into deeper debt and depression by staying within this union.
Scotland is one of the oldest nations in Europe. Why shouldn't she be independent, along with the other 200 or so sovereign states that there are in the world? Additionally, Scotland has a strong and diversified economy, a well-respected legal system and all the skills and expertise needed to run a modern country successfully.
I am fed up of having our economy squandered by London and the Home Counties - of paying huge sums in interest on mortgages and then losing my savings in interest and inflation just to keep the Home Counties house price bubble inflated and the London bankers and the politicians they support in the luxury to which they have become accustomed at yr expense.
Adam Smith said that the worst government was one run by merchants for merchants. He was right.
Add to that human rights, the doctrine of Parliamentary sovereignty at Westminster and retrospective legislation now being used, and Trident.
As we see the wasters in Westminster pilfer health and education budgets to fund their MOD shortfall, instead of taking it from the weapons of mass destruction budget, we see the devolved budget for health and education in Scotland shrinking with no compensation for the transfer of funds to the defence budget. Especially since Westminster is cutting back on defence in Scotland by cutting air-force bases and army units.
No more Trident
ALL Governments elected by Scotland
ALL Governments answerable to Scotland
No more FPTP
No more unelected politicians
No more wars for Oil
No more wars on the working class funded by our Oil
The chance to build a more equal society and an end to living in the 4 most unequal democracy in the world.
No more Tory Austerity.
Free Universal Serves
An end to NHS privatisation
Actual Protection for Scottish interests in the EU and world at large. Fishery policy for example.
A Nuclear free, GREEN Scotland which is a world leader in combating Climate change.
Scotland needs control of Fiscal Policy, this is the way to create employment. We also cannot let the Westminster 3 privatise the NHS. Charging for prescriptions, education, etc, and it looks like War in Syria. Its all to fill the pockets the elite, so the only way to get powers we need is to vote for Independence.
Scotland needs to have a Scottish government to make decisions for the good of the Scots people and to have control over all Scottish assets, taxes, armed forces, foreign affairs, energy, oil and all the rest I've forgotten. No hard feelings just time to make it on our own and be successful.
Scotland can only become a democracy if we remove the democratic deficit. For the past fifty years we have been a country which had a 50% chance of getting the government we voted for. Meanwhile England always got the government she voted for. Fifty years of the democratic deficit is enough time to demonstrate that Scotland and England are politically different. If the two countries were of similar sized populations then this might not matter so much. But England is the proverbial elephant. Elephants can be good neighbours but are rotten bedfellows.
Scotland has less than 9% of the UK's population and currently gets whatever government the rest of the UK votes for. That is democratic for the UK, but not for Scotland's voters. Independent Scotland's voters would get the government they vote for 100% of the time rather than the less than 50% of the time they "enjoy" at present.
All members of the United Nations are "normal"; we in Scotland should aspire to join the United Nations are soon as possible.
For more than 300 years we have seen our country's decline in comparison with most other western countries. In 1707 we had in excess of 20% of the UK population, and now we are below 9%, that says it all for me.
Responsibility. Every nation should be represented in its government by MP's that the people of that nation elected to govern them. It is staggering that a modern people would allow themselves to be governed by a party and Government it did not elect. Have policies forced on them that they did not choose through the ballot box. That is not a normal way to be governed. That is not democracy.
To have control over the taxation, health and welfare, and foreign policy of our country.
To be able to regulate the big industries which have so much power over our daily lives - like financial institutions and energy companies.
To be able to have a sustainable welfare system which genuinely provides a safety net for the sick and unfortunate.
To be able to do the above in a way which takes account of the differences in our national needs compared to those of the London and SE of England areas, which often have very different circumstances to us.
Scotland is a fortunate country with an abundance of natural resources, a rich and inclusive culture, a fascinating history, and an inventive and talented people. With independence we will have the opportunity to protect our services, tackle poverty, invest in our resources, live in a Scotland free from trident, and determine our own equal path in the world.
Over the last decade devolution has proven how beneficial Scotland making its own decisions can really be. The Scottish Parliament has led the way on many social issues; imagine how much more we could achieve with the powers of independence.
Scotland must be in control of its own economy and to do so it needs control over revenues, expenditure and social policy. This can only be achieved in an independent Scotland absent interference from Westminster. If independence is the will of the people of Scotland it is the duty and responsibility of every MSP, MP, MEP, councillor, civil servant and UK 'national' organisation to make it happen.
Scotland does not depend on oil (as those who like to disparage Scotland claim) – wind and marine energy is a significant asset ( ScottishPower plans 2500 new jobs in West of Scotland) . Life sciences are strong ,whisky is main UK food and drink export. We have 3 of the top 100 universities in the world. Oil is a bonus.
Unionists keep running oil down, disparaging this asset. This must mean that oil is not really important to them.
England has the City financial centre ; Scotland has energy resources including oil. - seems like both have what they want.
I see Scotland as a country in its own right – not a region of GB - which should be fully responsible for raising its own revenue and making its own decisions
I have absolutely no fears about the viability and desireability of an independent Scotland.
What I have in case of a NO vote is an absolute fear of a vengeful Westminster - happy to have the oil in spite of talking its value for Scotland down and laughing at the daft Scots for giving it away - determined to put Scotland in its place. We shall then definitely be in a worse place. I see no benefit to Scotland’s staying in the Union and BetterTogether is certainly not telling us what any benefits might be
Scotland and England were and are increasingly becoming different place with different politics, expectations and aspirations.
The natural thing would be for Scotland to return to being an independent state and only by way of that can the natural desires of the Scottish people be attained.
England and I mean the SE has become a foreign country and disequilibrant to the economic harmony of Great Britain
Simples, I want to get rid of Trident for a fresh start and it looks like the only way to do this is by becoming independent.
I do not want my country to be involved in wars in far off places, we have already lost far too many of our young people to situations which have absolutely nothing to do with us.
I want a Government whose policies I can agree with and I believe this can only be achieved by having our government in Scotland.
We ought to be governed by the politicians we elect not by remote control from a Parliament which is out of touch with Scotland. Tory policies such as the bedroom tax and swingeing benefit cuts in tandem with tax breaks for the rich are unfair and aliens to the Scottish concept of social justice.
Independence is the natural condition for any nation. We would be able to use the talents of our people and our vast natural resources to create a fairer society and take our country in quite a different direction to the failing, neo-liberal , managed decline of the British State. Scotland has subsidised the rest of the UK for every one of the last 32 years ( see GERS government expediture and revenue Scotland ). Now I would'nt mind this too much if we were not being constantly told that we were scrounging from other taxpayers in the UK. So enough. This Union does not work any more. Certainly not in the interests of Scotland.
It is our democratic right to live in a free and independent nation. More than half the time that Scotland votes we end up getting a right wing Tory Government we didnt vote for. Therein lies the democratic deficit. In an independent Scotland the people of Scotland will get the Government the majority of it citizens vote for. That is only fair and proper.
It's no in titles nor in rank;
It's no in wealth like Lon'on bank,
To purchase peace and rest:
It's no in makin' muckle, mair;
It's no in books, it's no in lear,
To make us truly blest:
If happiness hae not her seat
An' centre in the breast,
We may be wise, or rich, or great,
But never can be blest;
Nae treasures, nor pleasures
Could make us happy lang;
The heart aye's the part aye
That makes us right or wrang.
If you are a real country/nation, then independence is the normal state of affairs. It is not normal in a democracy to have your neighbour elect your government for you and neither is handing over your resources to them, and handed back some pocket money at an ever reducing rate.
At present the Scottish people have very little influence on decisions made at Westminster. For example, the Iraq war, keeping Trident, welfare benefit cuts while reducing top rate of tax from 50 to 45 per cent.
An independent Scotland would be a fairer and more just society than what we have at the moment under Westminster rule.
I would like see my country free, prospering, and taking its place in the world under a proper democratic government (i.E. Elected by real PR) which respects and responds he values of the people it represents. We need to get as far away as possible away from this medieval, utterly undemocratic and irredeemably corrupt regime based in Westminster. It belongs to the dark ages.
220000 civil servants in London. 8.4% working for us = 18000 jobs all getting London Weighting at £3000pa. In Scotland that's £54m saved and 18000 off our 200000 unemployed which saves another £68m. £68m is the cost of NHS Orkney and Shetland. What's not to like?
Oh I nearly forgot, and what are we going to spend the £54 million on?
By any measure of the term Scotland is a nation in waiting. Defined borders, unique history and culture, separate legal system, NHS, church and a parliament with increasingly divergent political views and priorities to those of Westminster. We have an abundance of natural resources, a respected system of education an inventive and imaginative population. What we don't have are the full powers of nationhood which would allow us to make the most of those resources. What have is a country where 1 in 4 kids are born into abject poverty, where food banks are becoming commonplace, where manufacturing excellence and productivity is something you tell your kids we 'used' to be famous for.
We are shackled by a corrupt and corrupting power centric system of governance which increasingly doesn't give a monkeys about anything which happens outside of the finance sector of the city. A system of governance waging a war on the poor, disabled and disenfranchised of the UK. There has to be a better way and Westminster is not for turning. This isn't about being better than anyone, its about aspiring to be better than we are. That is why I believe Scotland should recover its independence.
For the last 34 years, the UK has been at the mercy of successive puppet governments, each marginalising ordinary people and pandering to the wealthy.
In September of next year, Scotland has an opportunity to get out from the skewed sordid mess, and start electing politicians who have the ordinary people of Scotland as their priority.
I want my country free of the foreign policies of Washington/Westminster.
I want my country free of WMDs and the polluting subs now housed on the beautiful Firth of Clyde.
I want the young to be free to enjoy education.
I want the old to be free to spend their latter years in comfort.
I want no truck with illegal wars which damage people and countries with no good reason for so doing.
I want those who best understand the failures and successes with which we have to deal to run my country.
I want no money grubbing ,lazy , drunken MPs who vote as they are told with no thought of those who put them in power.
I have read most of the comments on these pages, it is truly disturbing to read the No comments.
Most are based on lies, unionist propaganda and downright racism.
I have said in some replies a lot of Politicians and Journalists are going to have a lot of explaining to do when Scotland secedes.
Contrary to the lies told in English Media Scotland is not a subsidy junkie ,indeed for the last 30 years Scotland has been paying more tax into UK than it receives back.
This does not even take account of our Oil and Alcohol revenues and duty excise etc.
The personal attacks on our First minister are made in London the same vile personal abuse is repeated ad nauseam by unionists.
These attacks are orchestrated because Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon are the only 2 politicians in the entire UK with positive poll ratings and that is after 6 years of being in government, a thing never before seen.
Those that would keep Scotland in this unfair and undemocratic Union are using a tactic to try and marginalise and vilify these individuals all in a cruel and cynical manner.
It is nothing to do with what is best for Scotland ,but what is best for Westminster.
Oil is not only not running out indeed another discovery was announced less than a week ago.
There is more Oil in the North sea than has already been extracted and we are not even drilling in the seas west of Shetland yet, it is estimated that the value of the discovered oil is £1.5 Trillion ,not a bad little nest egg between 5.2 million people.
We only want to be like every other nation and govern ourselves.
Westminster is an outdated ,outmoded undemocratic cesspit of corruption and lies.
It is an 18th century imperial ruling chamber not fit for purpose in the 21st century.
Perhaps if it had reformed we would not now be where we are , Independence is a given ,now it is only a matter of when, if not 2014 it will be shortly after, even with a No Vote neither the SNP or the Independence movement are going to go away.
This is a once-in-many generations opportunity to take control over our own affairs and steer Scotland through the next decades and centuries with no-one to blame for whatever problems we encounter.
For the past four decades our nation's natural resources have been plundered by the Westminster Treasury to underpin a failing UK State - in all that time we've never had a government that WE voted for.
That exploitation ends next September - Vote Yes!
Independence basically means getting the governance that Scotland actually votes for. To me this means a robust written constitution that enshrines the soveriegnty of the people, protects us from the moral and material corruption of the Westminster system and allows a far greater emphasis on equality and social justice.
We could be a wealthy country but all of the UK's wealth is sucked into the City and all of us are having to pay for that ineptitude, greed and venality. But in an independent Scotlnad there will be a myriad opportunities to recast ourselves and CHANGE the way our society works to improve the lives of the people, to rid Scotland of nuclear weapons, to fulfill our real potential, to protect the environment, to ensure that people receive education on the basis of the ability to learn and to have access to healthcare on the basis of need and NOT on the ability to pay, as is the way of Westminster.
I also think that Independence will restore Scotland's historic connctions with all of our European neighbours so that we can play a positive role in the world free from having to partake in illegal wars and other crimes.
Vote YES, because we're worth it.
Why shouldn't the people in Scotland elect the people who make the decisions about our country - like every normal country in the world. It's a bit frustrating to be told we're not capable of looking after our own affairs - that somehow Scotland is unique and has to hand over all it's revenue control to a parliament we didn't vote for. Stop trying to scare us Westminster and instead try to tell us what all the benefits would be for decisions about our country being made in London.
I want my 3 young kids to grow up in a country that is fair, and spreads it's resources across the whole population; a country that offers free education to everyone who wants it, not just those who can afford it; a country that doesn't spend billions of pounds on weapons of mass destruction while it's children go without food; a country where the NHS will survive as a free service at the point of delivery, and which cares for it's old folk. There is only one way to get a country like that for my children, and its by voting to have an independent government.
There's so much work to be done and it's best decided by the people who live here and have it's interests at heart. I have no doubts that this will lead to a much more prosperous and a healthier nation. I can't wait to vote for it in 500 days.
Scotland clearly has the wherewithal to provide a better life to it's people as an independent nation.
NO foreign wars, no nuclear weapons. A peaceful, social-democratic small nation with a lot to give the world as an independent nation. The UK is in free fall and I do feel for the folks in the rest of the UK but they have had more than their fair share from Scotland!
Scots need and want a government that reflects and represents their ambitions and ideals. Westminster in no way meets that criteria, and never will. The current Scottish government is by far and away the best representatives we have had in my lifetime and even with limited resources have shown what Scots are capable of. The divergence between Scotland and the parts of England that rule the UK has grown ever wider and independence is a natural conclusion to that process. To be asset stripped by your neighbour and then be accused of being a subsidy junkie has been extremely damaging for relations between Scotland and England, as proved by NO comments on here. This attitude will disappear after independence when the true economic relationship is there for all to see. It isn't just about the money but what we choose to do with it. Scots yearn for a better, more equitable society and a YES vote will make that possible with the removal of Westminster's self serving, greedy influence poisoning our every day lives. Finally, this is in no way an anti-English movement. It is an effort to step into the light and join the world as an affluent, modern nation which takes care of all it's citizens. Vote YES!!
UK is going to be drowning in a mountain of debt for generations. Scotland must be able to elect a government it votes for. I want to live in a true democracy and object to paying for an unelected Lords chamber for dinosaurs to continue the graveytrain they spent their working life milking.
The nation of Scotland and it's people have the right to choose the type of government that suits the aims and ambitions of the Scottish people through a democratically elected process. This government will not only serve the people of Scotland it will also more importantly be answerable to people of Scotland.
Scotland has suffered under decades of Westminster rule. The ONLY people that will care about doing what is right for Scotland are the people who live here.
The referendum is not about the SNP or any other party for that matter - it is about the right to self-determination; a country making political, economic and social decisions for itself and not having them imposed by a government that consists of a majority of MPs (or a party) that Scotland did not vote for.
Right now, we have a situation whereby regardless of what those living and working in Scotland need and vote for we get whatever it is that the south of England votes for; and, more often than not, this is not what Scotland needs... A union between such disparate entities is neither sane nor just - it is time for independence.
There is increasingly a section of the population in Scotland becoming (perhaps it was always so ) more and more disenfranchised by the democratic deficit in 'British politics'.None of the 3 Westminster parties offer an alternate view, with policies very much skewed toward the S E of England. Meantime , poor health ,poverty and limited opportunities blight too many lives in Scotland. Time to raise our aspirations for all resident in Scotland or at least be in a position to let more people aspire. There is only one way to do that - a written constitution, full fiscal , social and cultural Independence a chance to realise the value of Scotlands best asset, the people living here. (obviously great scenery too ,gas,oil,whiskey,food, fishing, research, literature,poetry etc etc )
A recent report by the UK government concluded that the Acts of Union in 1707 had ‘essentially extinguished’ Scotland and ‘incorporated (it) into an enlarged or renamed England’. This is the reality of Scotland’s regional status. With around 8% of the UK’s population and 59 of its 650 Members of Parliament, Scotland’s influence at Westminster is negligible: only twice since 1945 would the absence of Scottish votes have influenced the outcome of UK general elections. Despite having a population of over 5 million only 6 MEPs represent Scotland as a region of the UK in the EU parliament, the same as member state Malta, which has a population of around 450,000; half as many as member state Lithuania, which has a population of under 3 million; and 7 less than member state Finland, which has roughly the same population as Scotland. The flags of all three states fly outside the headquarters of the United ‘Nations’. To join them and be a nation again we must vote yes to independence on 18 October 2014. Statehood matters.
This in not about Salmond nor any other politician, but if the choice was between him or any other Westminster leader since the Thatcher years there is no contest. This is about Scotland and the Scots, the NO campaign have nothing to offer but negative scare stories and empty threats, where are the positives for staying with a "union" that depends and survives on Scotland yet brands us as leeches, parasites and scroungers. Could the pound sterling survive without Scotland? Not a hope in hell!
It took me many years to see what was best for Scotland,as Lab voter I thought it was the union.I stopped buyin papers and read the truth over the internet that we have the ability and resources to stand as an Independent country.I am behind @LabourforIndy free of London ties
Better Together would have you believe that Scotland uniquely is the only nation in the world that cannot look after its own affairs, that needs to hand its income over to a neighbour and be given pocket money in return, that needs a bigger country to represent it in the EU, in NATO and at the United Nations. What absolute nonsense it is.
The Republic of Ireland holds the Presidency of the EU at present. In the summer Lithuania takes over the Presidency of the EU. Both of these countries are smaller than Scotland but both make their way in the world. At present though Scotland can't even get a seat at the EU top table let alone hold the Presidency. At present Scotland has 6 MEPs, that's the same as Malta (population 325,000) and Luxembourg (population 400,000) because we are part of the UK.
Time to stand on our own feet, time to stop depending on others, time to have our own say in the world. Time to be like other nations in the world. Independent.
Vote YES on 18 September 2014!
Scotland is a vibrant, modern, well-respected country and as such it is time to throw off the restrictive shackles of the Union with england. Those who wish scotland to remain in this tired weary Union can provide no just cause for doing so other than to retain the self interest of england or the self interest of individuals.
This is a hugely wealthy country, and one with huge resources and endless talent, but it is wasted. The oil sums it up, but it is merely representative of a bigger picture. Vast amounts of North Sea oil wealth siphoned off directly to the London Treasury, with only sweetie money back in return. The rest has been blown on unemployment "benefits" and cut price floating of state owned companies. Meanwhile the true value of it was hushed up so Scotland wouldn't get any ideas above its station. There is still oil out there, so there is still time to put it to good use. Then there are our world-leading universities, and our tourism brand to die for, whisky and lots more besides. I could go on all day. We cannot afford NOT to be independent! We just need the confidence to do it.
An independent Scotland, Free from Westminster control, can only do Better for the country & it's people. The London rule has always looked after LONDON, no matter which part is in government. Tory, Labour or even Tory/Lib coalition, none have worked for Scotland. Scotland needs it's own government with full powers.
For too long we have been told that we cannot look after ourselves. That we would need england to help us. Well we have proved them wrong. We have a better economy than they do. We are prospering under a Scottish government run by a Scottish Party working with the others to make our Country a better place for our kids to live in. And that's without us having total control over all of our natural resources, or our affairs. Think of just how much more prosperous we would become. Not having to ask westminster if we can do something to give our people a better standard of living. If we can do anything to give our kids a better educational system.. But to be able to have people create work for themselves and for others. To watch industries grow because they will have the skill and the knowledge to improve their lot... Aye, and vote for Independence is the right thing for all of us.. I am Scottish and Am So Proud of my Country.. I want an Independent Scotland...
Scotland should be run and governed by the people of Scotland. NOT by Westminster in England.
A yes vote is the only way any self respecting scot will vote.
Voting no is a vote against the Scottish people running their own country and a vote for Westminster and the torys to continue to run Scotland.
Vote Yes for Scotland and its People!
In any organisation, inefficiency increases as the size of the organisation increases, and a direct connection from the top to the people whom they serve is lost. Westminster, Whitehall and the BBC are chock full with the Eton/Bullington/ and Oxbridge establishment, running the show entirely for their own benefit and to further their own ends. It all needs to change for the good of both Scotland and England.
I have been a supporter of the SNP for as long as I can remember however it is the opportunity to break away from Westminster that drives me towards independence. I feel that the UK government is so out of touch with myself and other Scots that it is time to breakaway from Westminster all together and I look forward with confidence to an independent Scotland showing the way forward.
I will be voting yes in 2014 because I believe Scotland will be a better and fairer country once it is running its own affairs, We most certainly could not be any worse off. Scotland is a more socially just country and we have different needs to England, And i believe it will be the best thing for both countries once Scotland is independent
Scotland will manage their own affairs better than the Union. We will have our pride back & a chance to have an egalitarian society. I believe Independence will make people work & try harder to be all we can be in today's multicultural world. It's a once in a life time opportunity lets take it, vote YES
In the UK, Scots can do nothing but buckle-up for the bumpy ride of Tory governments, if that`s the way England decides to vote. The only way we will ever prevent governments we haven`t voted for is by voting Yes. Then, even if we ever vote in a bunch of wallopers who squander our resources, ruin our economy, attack our poor, sick & vulnerable while giving the obscenely rich an easy ride, we, WE, can get shot of them .
All for Scotland going independent, looking forward to them having to raise taxes, introduce university fees and prescription charges. When they come back wanting to rejoin England we can have a referendum and tell them to get stuffed. All the Scottish people I know live in England, not Scotland - funny that.
1. End the oppression caused from the British Crown
2. Elect a President to promote democracy and equal rights
3. Stronger economy and military support from other democratic republics result
4. Decrease international violence caused because of a quest for imperialist points
5. Create a stronger united front internationally
ECONOMICS- Scotland have more than just Oil (which we have plenty off),we also have strong reserves of Gas. We have a productive climate and we even have surplus land in the Highlands that could be developed. We would also be in charge of our own economy and we would be more than capable of foreign trade with other nations. Also I feel independence will be cheaper as we not be getting taxed for the running costs of of Major organisations such as HMRC and illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
FURTHER ECONOMICS- We would be ranked 6th in the OECD compared to the UK's 16th place. We also have around 25 per cent of Europe's potential offshore wind and tidal energy - and a tenth of Europe's wave power. An extra 45 per cent of renewable energy was generated in Scotland last year, something that was found by the UK government. The recent Ernst & Young UK Attractiveness Survey highlighted Scotland's leading position in the UK for job creation from international investment. If we got back what we sent south in tax, official figures show every Scot would have £510 more a year. The only tax the Scottish Government controls just now is council tax, and it's frozen under the SNP. Imagine if we controlled fuel duty, national insurance, VAT and income tax. Remember the English based Mcrone report which found and independent Scotland would prosper. We would be setting up many of our own institutions like our own Equivalent of HMRC or our own defence services and this would create jobs. .
DEMOCRACY- Scotland currently had less MP's in Westminster than the city of London. We have less than 15% of the seats and have no real say in issues such as Foreign Policy, War and Immigration. In other years we have been subjected to the rule of governments that we have almost unanimously voted against such as Thatcher's Tories.
INDIVIDUALS- I personally trust the likes of Alec Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon far more than I would trust David Cameron and Nick Clegg. The SNP are a well run party and are far more in touch with Scottish affairs than English based politicians such as Clegg and Cameron.
POLITICAL CULTURE- Scotland since the war has developed into a far more socialist nation than England. Thus we have different ideals in regards to welfare etc. That are not shared by our neighbors, who incidentally control over 80% of Westminster parliamentary representation.
DEFENSE AND SECURITY- Scotland would be safer if Independent. For a start being a part of the UK has seen Scotland dragged into several wars and I suspect their are more to come. Also historically Scotland is not a priority for defense. Studying WW2 a Historian named Gordon Barclay found that England would have let Scotland fall to the Nazi's if need be.
OTHER NATIONS- Similar sized nations like Norway, Sweeden and Finland have survived on their own and performed quite well, why should Scotland be so different.
There are a fair few points that point to Scotland being better off independent. One that I find highly important is the power us Scots (and not forgetting the others that have moved here) will have an increased say in what goes on in OUR country. A lot of people look past the fact that the Scottish parliament doesn't have a say in some things which concern Scotland. Westminster deals with 'reserved matters' such as employment, benefits, immigration, defence, trade, nuclear energy... The list goes on. Why shouldnt the people of Scotland have control over these things in their own country? The likes of immigration, if people wish to immigrate to Scotland why should it be up to Westminster what happens? They arent immigrating into England, Scotland is its own country. Defence is one that bothers me a lot. It basically means if Westminster and the rest of England decide they want to go to war then Scotland must join them. Of course I'm not saying that we shouldnt be helping but shouldnt we have the choice? Arent Scottish soldiers etc ours? What if we believe the war is wrong? We have no say, we still have to send OUR troops out there. And why should Westminster decide where our oil etc goes and how its used? As I said there are many points beyond this political side which give reason to believe that Scotland will be far better off being independent but I feel this side is one which a lot of people forget about or simply over look.
The Scottish Government has demonstrated over the existing government and last one that the books can be balanced in a way beneficial to the people living and working in Scotland. On the motherland, the UK government continues to demonstrate greed and incompetence. Scotland is a forward thinking country, looking forward to peacekeeping and peacekeeping progressive industries like renewable energy. The UK government is a backward country still wanting to rely on nuclear and warmongering. I could keep going on. The advantages of being an independent more internationally minded country outweigh the narrow international focus of the UK. Scotland, through our last king, created the UK, it's now time to undo it. England should then hopefully find its democratic voice too.
I am a huge supporter of a radical vision of an independent Scotland. Our thrall to the exploitative oppressive neoliberal state has destroyed enough generations here. With independence we would eventually get government we vote for - not be ruled by a tory old etonian elite. Renationalise the industries, work towards full employment in a needs led economy, treat our sick, our vulnerable and our elderly with respect and give people a future worth fighting for. We can do this!
Scotland can manage its own affairs, the British empire is no more. Scottish independence will mean that voting will be more democratic for Scotland compared to Westminster (one Conservative MP returned from Scotland yet we have to suffer a con-dem Government) trade unions in Scotland are not supporting better together yet most of them are affiliated to the Labour party! The reason is that the trade Unions are wanting a fairer Scotland and they now know that Labour or Conservative lead governments in Westminster cannot and will not deliver this. I believe the trade union vote in Scotland will end up going to the Yes campaign because it's the only way their members will be better off. The no campaign is negative and defeatist, the Yes campaign is being positive and forward thinking.
Just think, we are one of the few countries in the world that is controlled by another country.
It would be amazing to have our own identity, passports,and government etc.
I think it would make people so proud to be Scottish. It would also make a change from watching mainly news items from England and politicians up to no good. Vote YES.
Instead of paying massive amounts of our taxes to support the country of Scotland, we can either spend more on our own country or reduce our own taxes and have a stronger fiscal State leading to a stronger pound because our GDP would be much better, without the persistent financial drain from a country which clearly wants to go its own way! Let them use the Euro, assuming that they are able to join the E.U.
Also, we could cease being on the UN Security Council and get rid of our excessive security forces and just defend ourselves. Let the Scottish pay for their own forces if they can manage to.
I don't want to see bad feelings between Scotland and the RUK but I strongly believe that the underlying political sentiment in Scotland is to the left of England.
The financial arguments are useful but a separate Scotland should be able to function just as well as many other small countries and retain a welfare state that isn't being sold off to the highest bidder.
Living such a long time being under British rule destroys the name of the Scotts, a once powerful peace loving nation in the northern British Isles. When the Norse tried to invade Britain, Scotland and Ireland joined England under one name to push Norway and the Viking warlords out of the islands and their waters. They said the they would release the two kingdoms and they never did until the 1700-1800s when Ireland revolted. Scotland tried in many ways, but the British government wouldn't allow most likely because they at least want control over the main island and they didn't want to lose land and power.
Any country has a right to become individual, just like Abkhazia, Nagorno-Kabrakh and Transnistria. They should become independent from Georgia, Azerbaijan and Moldova but the governments of those countries don't let them. I'm not saying the UK isn't letting Scotland become independent, there is going to be a referendum on it, but if Scotland wants to become independent, they should.
I believe that the Scots have already proved that they can build a nation, if you use Canada as an example. "There is an opinion, generally received amoung us, that Canadians are not inclined to be mindful of the significance of their history. Perhaps our modest national dedication to "peace, order and good government" sets limits on our patriotism. We tend to think of our past, rather smugly and narrowly perhaps, as a smooth and bland progression from the arrival of Europeans to today's role as helpful facilitator at the United Nations. Superficially, we perceive our story as a steady, non-violent and rather unexciting record of nation-building, with none of the bravura and bravado claimed by the United States or indeed Mexico." I have been reading a book- Great Scots by Matthew Shaw, for which I take the above quote from the "Foreword" of that book. Matthew Shaw says, "This closer look at ourselves makes it clear that we have a lot more to answer for - not only bold initiatives, adventure and risk-taking, but also violence and failure - indeed more challenges than we are usually credited with or accustomed to claiming." Of course the Scots were not alone. They are only part of the Canadian story and many others, including Native Canadians, French-speaking Candians and even United Empire Loyalists can claim a contribution to the Canada we know today. Nevertheless, the contribution of the Scots is remarkable in so many fields and to so great effect that it is worthy to tell the tale! My grandparents left Glasgow to make a better life for themselves in Canada, but I believe they would have loved to stay in Scotland. Therefore I think that Scotland should be allowed to have independence if that is what they desire...God knows, it has longed been wished for and many have lost their lives in that persuit.
We, who live in Scotland, are the ones who have most to gain by looking after our own affairs. We know the problems, we know the kind of society we want to live in, and we are best placed to be able to judge how we can achieve our desired community. It has been foolish for us, over the years, to put up with other people (all be it inadvertently) deciding the way we live. At the start of the Union, over 300 years ago, it has been reconned, we made up over 20% of the UK population, now we are reduced to less than 9%, mostly because our people have had to go else where to make a living, and our brightest have had to go to get the chance to develop. No longer, but only if we vote YES, and build the kind of normal, small, northern European country we know we can be. Vote YES on 18/09/2014.
Scotland is a wealthy and beautiful nation filled with talent and rich resources but Westminster isn't allowing us to use this to improve life in Scotland. Instead they are using it to fund failing health services and wars which have nothing to do with Scotland.
Scotland is also being used as a sort of shed to hold nuclear submarines and bombs which are of no use to us. As well as that if Scotland becomes independent we shall be the 8th wealthiest nation in the world. We will also be able to support our economy with the wide variety of resources Scotland has to offer. Whiskey, oil and fabrics to name a few make billions for Scotland every year.
The Scottish people deserve a nation of their own. The scenario would be different if there was a majority that did want to remain with Britain. However, for decades the situation has been the complete opposite. The Scottish people, like those in North Ireland, are sick of being tied down to England. Give them their independence! The whole world wants an independent Scotland.
Scotland will be an independent country, run for the betterment of the people of Scotland.
We will not have crazy vindictive laws imposed on the poor of the country, we can and will be a much fairer country, we can and will be a rich country when we have the shackles of the UK removed.
Only with the power of independence Scotland can meet its full potential. It
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On Thursday 18th September 2014 please vote yes, for Scotland, for yourself and for all of Scotland’s children.
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I think Scotland should be of their own country with Tax, Education, Health, Housing, Forestry, Farming, Whisky making, Shortbread, Tourism, Hotel Industry. Scotland also needs to get the Euro to make it cheaper for people to travel to Scotland from New Zealand and Australia. Heaps of Scottish ancestor live there. From MacDonald Clan from New Zealand. Hope to visit Independent Scotland soon. Saving our money back here in New Zealand for the big trip to SCOTLAND.
The road will be bumpy and the road will be long, but in the end, it will be worth it. It wasn't like the American independence was a walk in the park. It took hard work, determination and the willingness of it's people to make the sacrafice to succeed. It's the same for anything you want, you have to work hard to get it and accept the consequences of your choices. I think, ultimately, the ends will justify the means. An Independent Scotland will be good for it's people and good for it's allies. You fought for it before, now you do not have to fight, all you have to do is vote yes. From my perspective it would be like Canada taxing and making laws for America, not something I could fathom or understand. (Though it may not be a bad thing right now with all the stupid people running this country! Ha!). Regardless, it's your land, your country and your HERITAGE, and ultimately your choice.
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Our own government with all powers, not a government from Westminster we didn't vote for making wrong decisions on our behalf to the detriment of our society, economy and culture. Why are we investing in a union that is getting itself further and further into debt and spending so much money on defense and WMD when the country is the 4th most unequal in the world? Where 1 in 4 children are born into poverty?
Scotland and independence offers the only way out of this journey to further austerity and economic collapse.
Scotland has been used by the English for centuries. You don't have to look further than the recent world wars, where Scots formed parts of large regiments feared the world over. Not to mention the same use during the British colonial expansion. Scotland is its a nation in its own right and more than deserves to be independent. If people are worried about how Scotland will survive as an independent nation, they are either unaware of Scottish intellect and innovation, or underestimate it. Remember many inventions taken for granted were invented by or improved upon by Scots or people of Scottish descent; like the TV, the pneumatic tire,improvements to the Steam engine (which eventually spearheaded the industrial revolution) and the telephone. The oil and gas reserves are no doubt finite, but they will only help usher in a new era of freedom from English tyranny. Scottish innovation has helped propel us into the 21st Century, and will no doubt bring forth many more such innovations that benefit not only themselves, but mankind in general. This is just one of the many "arguments" (there shouldn't really be any) why Scotland should be an independent country. People living outside Scotland vaguely know that its a part of the UK, and assume they must be similar to the English. A free Scotland would show the world that not only are we Scots nothing like the English, we are a force to be reckoned with.
It is the right of any nation to be able to self determine what is best for the people of that nation and to use their natural resources to that benefit.When that right is inequitably distributed as it currently exists in the union of the the United Kingdom, then the time comes for the group being oppressed to seek their own path. It is a natural path and one that Scotland should take for its own self determination in the future.
Scotland historically was independent for centuries. It has more than enough resources to be independent again. And people should have the right to make their own decisions in their own country about their own country. You do not expect your next door neighbour to make decisions for you, dump what he does not want on your doorstep, and live off your finances. So if this is not acceptable for an individual, why should it be acceptable for a country?
Because English government is just going to make life harder and Scotland don't want to be a part of the government's screw ups so I totally understand why Scotland don't want to be apart of the UK. Life seems much easier there than it is in England so yes they should.
There is no question of whether we can be an independent nation, the UK government's own GERS statistics (Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland), show we bring in more money to the Exchequer than we receive back and in David Cameron's own words "Supporters of independence will always be able to cite examples of small, independent and thriving economies across Europe such as Finland, Switzerland and Norway. It would be wrong to suggest that Scotland could not be another such successful, independent country". So putting aside the question of can we and the fact that we are most DEFINITELY NOT SUBSIDISED BY ENGLAND, the rest of the question is all about whether we should be independent.
Scotland has traditionally followed a more socialist voting trend over the last 30 years in comparison to the rest of the UK, and over these years the political divide has been as visible as the geographical land border which runs between the two countries. Given that Scottish votes don't matter at all in the eventual outcome of the returning UK government, from a purely philosophical point of view, to have a government that represents the wishes and interests of the geographical area they represent is the fundamental essence of democracy, and for Scotland this will only be achieved by independence.
I personally aspire to a nation that provides good public services: an NHS which is protected from stealth privatisation and PPI's, delivers a world class education, and works to reduce the effects of inequality. The Scottish government has so far managed to implement and retain welfare policies counter to examples of policies that have been scrapped south of the border and that is relying on a budget received from Westminster that is lower than what we pay in (see the GERS report).
The UK is ranked 26 in terms of Human Developmental Index, the Republic of Ireland is ranked 7 and Norway is 1. HDI is an empirical way of calculating quality of life and uses markers like life expectancy, education and poverty. I want a government that will work to make Scotland have an HDI more like Ireland (Fairer) but aspires to be like Norway. There is no reason why the UK shouldn't be better for its citizens (it's not like Ireland is viewed as a global economic powerhouse), it is only that successive UK governments have implemented policies that have reduced spending in the public sector and have actively encouraged privatisation or partial privatisation in the form of PPI's to public services. Availability of public services run in a non-profit making manner is what protects quality of life for everyone, not just the top 10% of earners.
I aspire to something fairer and will be voting YES.
Scotland is being held back by the U.K. U.K. Just wants their 'share' of oil, gas, and whatever other profits that Scotland makes. Scotland is a strong country, it is in their culture and blood. So far I have read in the negative side nothing but hateful and rude comments. The English people are afraid of losing Scotland because they know it will devastate them. Scotland deserves to be independent, any strong country should. They have the means to do it, but also the inspiration to do so. No one knows if Scotland will prosper or fail, it is the will of the people and the power of God that makes the change.
Scotland, you have my prayers. I do hope to see the country of my ancestors, that brought my name to the Americas, becomes independent. I hope to see myself in Scotland one day, making a future for me and a family i hope to start there.
Why aren't Belgium's military affairs controlled by Paris? Why does New Zealand not have it's Prime Minister sit in Canberra? Answer? They are their own countries, they are independent countries who play their own part in the world. If people ask “Why Should Scotland be independent?” Then why don’t they ask the same of Austria, Canada or Crete? And to say we who want to be an independent do so because we hate the ‘Inglish’ is just as silly as saying Sweden only remains independent because they hate Norway.
Now we have a lot in common with our English neighbours. We have a shared British culture. Yea but so do Mediterranean and Scandinavian countries. We speak the same language. (Not always mind you) Again many countries outside Germany speak German, It’s not just the French that speak ....French and the sheer amount of countries outside the U.K that speak English clearly deflates that bubble. We watch the same TV, Movies and listen to the same music..... And just how much of that is American? And do you think or cousins in Ireland are watching drastically different shows? I don’t.
Why should we be independent? Because we are a country that is culturally and politically different from our southern friends and we have to represent that in all world forums, not just Rugby and Football.
We have the skills and attitude to be a successful fair country for all the people who choose to live here not just the elites. I am sure that with independence there will be a new found enthusiasm for everyone to work hard to help develop and look after each other in our country.
The paucity of the case *against* independence is striking enough, but we have it within our reach to be a batter, fairer and more prosperous nation. Scotland is a rich country, an industrious country and an intelligent country - more than that, it's also a country where social justice is still considered to be something worth having. Aye we can, and aye we should - see http://www.Scribd.Com/doc/134771714/An-Evidence-Based-Case-for-Scottish-Independence for a fuller account of why.
Westminster has admitted we can more than go it alone. It's because we are so wealthy they do not want to let us go. Read the McCrone report. Gers Report 2013 which puts us on better fiscal position then rUk . It's all a propaganda machine from Westminster to get you to vote no by scaremongering and deceit . Google what former Labour Chancellor Denis Healey wrote about in yesterday's paper about them deceiving the Scots about how wealthy we are so we wouldn't vote for Independence in last referendum. It's all about our resource wealth, when the oil runs out it will run out all over the world but we have a vast tidal renewables future set to power Scotland and third of Europe. They know this, they are lying still to hold onto the cash cow that is Scotland. Wake up
Scotland is more than capable of running its own affairs it will be shocking if we don't take this opportunity to stand on our own two feet. Anyone with a social conscience cannot fail to see how Westminster parties are moving further to the right at the expense of the poorer in society.
The people best suited to making decisions for Scotland are of course the people who live and work here. It's bleeding obvious. I can't think of any reasons why Scotland couldn't thrive like other small, successful nations (eg Denmark and Norway). We have an abundance of natural water, food and energy resources, along with expanding whisky and technology markets, fishing, tourism etc. We just need the belief and the will to make a serious go of it. I sincerely hope that we do.
As a small, well resourced country on the edge of Western Europe we can choose to create a country and society free from the vainglorious excesses of the fading British Empire. I choose yes not because of a romanticized past, but because Independence gives us the opportunity to build a modern more equitable Scotland.
Scotland has all the resources to succeed as an independent nation. It has been marginalized within the UK to its great disadvantage. Decisions are better made at Hollywood by Scottish politicians than by a distant Westminster parliament where the Scots are in a small minority. Independence gives dignity, and it is a right for all peoples. Scotland has a dismal future within the UK.
Of course it should. The no campaign is based wholly on fear and negativity and the more they pursue this the more clear it is that the positive case for the union doesn't actually exist. Not from Scotland's point of view anyway. They lied about the worth of our oil in the 70s to kill support for independence, and they've been lying to us ever since. The truth is, they need us WAY more than we need them. Scotland can be a tory-free nation, a fairer nation, with no trident and no more involvement in illegal and pointless wars. These are good enough reasons for voting Yes. The lurch to the right in English politics, and the very real likelihood that a Con/UKIP coalition government will do whatever they can to reduce Scotland's powers (including the dissolution of the Scottish Parliament) while slashing our funding, crippling our Health Service and dragging us out of Europe whether we want to or not means that the only sensible way to vote in 2014 is to VOTE YES. A no vote will kill Scotland.
Countries should be independent - it's the normal state for a country. I would be minded to support independence even if the economic argument didn't stack up. But with Scotland the economic case stacks up incredibly - whisky, renewable energy, oil, finance, education, life sciences, engineering. We can be a strong, vibrant country playing a role in the world on our own terms, in our own voice. And we should. I also believe this would be good for the rest of the UK which is politically moribund, out of touch, remote and backward.
We also want to go a different direction to the relentless rightward drift of the UK. It's a necessity for Scotland to take control of its own affairs and destiny.
The union was false when it was signed and is false now. Westminster looks after itself and is a sycophantic culture with their claws sucking Scotland dry.Cast them free and then Scotland can fly. If Robert Burns was alive today I truly believe that he would be on a stage somewhere destroying the arguments of the sycophants and leeches that constantly talk Scotland down.
Scotland can be a fairer and more democratic country. We can get rid of nuclear weapons and get a Government we actually voted for. I don't think that an independent Scots Government would be treating the poor and vulnerable in the way that the Westminster Government currently is. A Government closer to the people can only be a better thing.
Scotland has a large amount of trade with the EU. If we were to stay in the UK we may be pulled out of the EU by default.
While its true we have a larger trade with rUK, its unlikely they would raise barriers given that Scotland is their largest export market.
So the REAL threat to trade and jobs is the Ukipper attitude that's dragging us to the exit when we should be trying to get more out of the EU instead.
Speaking as a simple, unpolitically minded resident of England, why would I wish we hold onto a country whose people are so unhappy about being part of the UK. If it means the Scots cheer-up then please be on your way and good luck. Fingers crossed for a Yes Vote.
The Scots have a rich history of striving for freedom and being deceived by the Brits. They deserve to be seen as an independent entity, if they decide not to invade Iraq then they don't. If they decide not to subsidize a ridiculous monarchy then they don't have to. They should at least be given the chance.
They receive free prescriptions, and other benefits not afforded to those south of the border. They also tend to be socialists. As they are culturally different from the English , it would be better that they had independence once and for all. Scotland can also have its own time zone so that we don't have to keep changing our clocks twice a year.
With a vastly different political landscape and different spending priorities. Scotland should most definitely become independent. We also generate enough revenue to be a viable independent nation and with the full range of powers we could pursue our own agendas and safeguard our own institutions against a distant, out of touch UK parliament that shares none of our ideals.
Currently we contribute more to British tax than we get back. WE are forced to supply water to England for free. Against our will nuclear weapons are kept in our lochs. When debating over matters related to Scotland in parliament we have less of a say than the English. If you were to ignore our votes for the last 20 years the outcome would be no different. There is no reason why we should be ruled by a country that is unaffected by our votes.
Scotland deserves to become independent, as any good and strong nation should. Scotland has the confidence and capability to become independent and overcome her own economic faults. Let her lead and have faith. Scotland should be governed and owned by Scots, by her own people. Scotland should have her own military force, decide whether or not to send her troops into a battle or enter a war. She should not have to do what she is told. Right now, the U.K. Is horribly indebted and forces their members to endure economic struggle and taking their money. Scotland has the chance to break off from the indebted U.K., from the English, and start her own government with her own people, Scots. England doesn't deserve Scotland. Have faith. The U.K. Forces limits on Scotland, they are afraid of Scotland's potential.
Scotland is more than capable of becoming an independent nation. It is more than capable of overcoming its problems and weak points. Scottish military defense is surely a major issue why Scotland should break off; people look at Scotland and underestimate it; if England's Royal Forces are so accomplished then Scotland's own Special Forces could be too, if there ever will be; and Scotland will be able to choose whether or not to send its own men and women into battle and into wars. The U.K. Is highly indebted and Scotland, as a Nordic country, can break off from having to help with that debt and use their money for their greater causes. Scotland will not have to suffer the U.K.'s economic downfall and problematics, and instead take care of her own people and start a prosperous Scotland. An independent Scotland would be equal. Listen, Scotland should be run by Scots, by her own people that her lands provide for. Scots should govern Scotland. Right now, the U.K. Owns her. Have faith.
The time really has come for the people who live in Scotland to take their (and their country's) future into their own hands, make their own decisions (good or bad) and try to build a more fair society than the one which currently prevails. I also want Scotland to be part of, and play a constructive role in, the international community, rather than continue being a bit-part of the UK, with no voice or presence in the international community and the decisions made by it.
Scotland's whisky contributes 24% of all food and beverage revenue in the UK, the OECD stated Scotland has £4 trillion of fossil fuel, 25% of all of Europe's wind and wave power. With 8.2% of the population Scotland contributes 9.6% of the UK revenue this equates to £1350 for every man, woman and child in Scotland more than any other region in Britain. All these figures are based on Westminster accounts, which may be biased. Two simple statements/questions every Scottish citizen should ask themselves. (1) Is Scotland rich in resources. Answer - Yes. (2) Westminster works for the benefit of London. Will a Scottish Parliament work for the benefit of Scotland first. Answer - Yes. Therefore Scotland must vote Yes Yes Yes.
I can think of so many supporting arguments that one cannot readily state them within a 50-word limit. Think about this: the debt-ridden Bank of England bailed out the Scottish banks by borrowing or creating money, something a Scottish Central Bank could also do given its substantial energy reserves.
As a nation, we will do the best job of looking out for, and looking after, the people who live in Scotland. And, over time, using our vast resources, our own tax base and untapped assets, like our great international reputation, we will be able to build a country that reflects more closely our own values and priorities.
Its about time Scotland stands on its own two feet and governs itself. No more taking orders from a Westminster Government that clearly has no idea what its doing to the country. No plan and no action. Why should Scotland be Governed by a Conservative Government when they could only get one MSP in parliament in Scotland? Its only right that Scotland has a chance. I strongly believe that Scotland could go it alone and that in these tough times the country, literately, has nothing to lose. So I'll be voting yes, what about you?
I will begin with the 'no' campaign for a start. All they seem to be able to do is scare monger us with complete and utter nonsense, most of it is not even true. One thing they say is that the oil in the North Sea would not be enough to support a country like Scotland, if this is true then how is it able to support a country like Britain? Another flaw in this is that Norway, a once oil-rich country of a similar size (population wise) to Scotland has managed to survive without many other ways of income except the oil reserves. The No campaign also tell me that if we leave the Union then we will have to leave the European Union and reapply. This really doesn't make a difference as the UK is already considering leaving anyway!. One topic that the No voters always bring up is 'Trident' and 'Nuclear Deterrents' and that we wouldn't have any should be go independent, but think about it...Does a small country like Scotland really need nuclear weapons, there is nothing to gain by invading Scotland and I can't see Russia kicking off any time soon, so that makes Trident a lost cause for the No Vote. I also fail to see why a country would say no to ruling themselves. Surely we can't be stupid enough to say "No, we'd rather be ruled by a government hundreds of miles away that is plagued with trillions of pounds of debt". While I am in the subject of national debt, Scotland is only responsible for around 9% of that debt, so would you rather pay 9% that you owe, or go into debt yourself trying to cover for somebody else. One more thing I get told by No votes is that we wouldn't have a strong enough military to survive on our own. This I can disprove simply, one thing is that Scotland would actually have a stronger military than the rest of the UK. This is because of the current budget cuts, and they (Westminster) would only have to make more seen as they wouldn't be getting money from Scotland. Even if we didn't have a huge army, a country as small as Scotland doesn't need a big military, nobody has any interest in attacking us anyway. I also fail to see what pros we get from staying in the Union. As I looked through the 'No' voters arguments on this site I see one that says I would have to pay extra fees if I called somebody in England and I'd need a visa and total nonsense like that. That is a load of absolute crap, there is no way on gods holy earth that that would ever happen. Westminster is just a bunch of money grabbing, self centered, bunch of clueless idiots. We don't need another government telling our country what to do, we are perfectly capable of ruling ourselves! Vote Yes!
It is simple. I want to feel like my vote in a general election would mean something. At the moment we are in a Conservative era (even with the Lib Dems). The Torys have control over the whole of the UK despite only gaining one seat in Scotland. That is not a democracy. I voted SNP in the last Scottish election for the simple reason that their policies appealed to me...I DO NOT mean Independence. I had never considered that as being an option. Good policies. Good Party...With a deluded dream...Then the results of the last UK election came through. We have a different mentality in Scotland. We have a different culture...Eg Scotlands theatre culture is completely different from our English counterparts. Perhaps I am biased as that is where I see my career (theatre) Our political ideologies are totally different. Our tastes in general are entirely different. For the simple reason that I want a government representative of a Scottish public. To govern over the nation without outside interference. Maybe I want the "Devo Max" (or Indy Lite like the Better Together campaign call it). All the debates treat Scottish people are burdens. We are being patronised by the Better Together Campaign, treated like a stupid child and unruly wean. Our language has been regarded as a dialect (if you do the research you will find that Scots is a true language coming from the same Germanic root as English) It is a language. One that formed away from our German and English cousins and came back around again after the Union. Our national Bard's work is regarded as Dogerell! If you actually read some of Burns, Robert Fergusson, Allan Ramsey jnr, Hugh MacDairmid, Robert Garioch, Robert Luis Stevenson and even to an extent Sir Sydney Goodsir Smith (even though he was a Kiwi by birth) and more recently Edwin Morgan you will find proper use of the Scots language. When the English national Bard may have been a collective of writers! Hume and Adam Smith have shaped our modern world whether you think it was for good or bad but they have. I am apprehensive of Independence...Petrified perhaps...But I would rather struggle on my own than be treated like a stupid, unruly, disrespectful child. Bring on the bankruptcy, bring on austerity, bring it all on because anything is better than being treated like this. If this was a marriage. Then the they would have been jailed for domestic abuse. Rant over.
P.S Both stubborn governments have missed a trick by not including a maximum Devolution option. A maximum Devolution would have been mutually beneficial for the NATION and by nation I now mean the UK as a whole to thrive as a united nation...Was that not the point back in 1707.
P.P.S Rant definitely over
It's not fair that Britain gets to control a country with people outside their borders, because Scottish people probably want to do things their way. Also, it's like saying that the Scottish Parliament needs someone to hold their hand, like they're a child, but their actually and adult. When people get older, most of them probably don't want to live with their parents all over again, do they? The Scottish Parliament shouldn't have to ask permission to change their safety rules, or use military force against a threat. They don't have to be sharing their power with an outside source, but they can still work together and be allies.
It seems that Scotland have shown why we are no longer tolerant of Westminster rule. During the Scottish Government elections, we as a nation, voted SNP above all others. Furthermore Scotland as a whole did not vote for the current administration of Westminster, so why should we have to put up with it?
Understandably people do not always get the party that they voted for, but for an entire country's majority vote to count for nothing makes me consider the actual benefit of being in the UK. The oppositions always state that the finances are wrong for an independent Scotland, well if they are, should it matter? I would rather be poorer than I am now and have a say than be a little less poor and have a Conservative and UKIP coalition, which is probably the next great tragedy.
Research facts which are in the public domain - not media opinion dressed up as 'facts' - start by reading the GERS report - Scotland can survive on its own, but the Westminster village doesn't want to lose its power or the ability to line it's own pocket. In an independent Scotland something might not be set up correctly to begin with - but come on - recognise the Scottish parliament is delivering tangible improvements in infrastructure and there is a long term vision for economic revitalisation. The Union is about vested interests in Westminster looking out for Westminster.
Despite being a lifelong supporter of Scottish Independence I still remain open to any positive case for the union as open and honest debate is, I believe, the best way to arrive at a considered position. I have been on a learning curve these last 10 years regarding the history, geography and economy of Scotland and I travel the country extensively to add to that knowledge base so that my contribution to the debate is well informed. I believe that far too many Scots are way more familiar with the beachfront tourist traps of the worlds sunnier destinations than they are aware of their own country and all its potential for the future. My small mission is to try and get more of my countrymen to open their eyes, don some waterproofs if necessary, and discover why Scotland is justly internationally renowned.
Every independent country rightly controls it's own resources and spending, and so should Scotland. We are already a world recognised brand, and would be welcomed into any organization we feel would be of a benefit to our country and it's residents. We could show the world how to control a more effective and worthwhile society
Independence would make Scotland a normal nation. That would mean the people of Scotland would be best placed for taking all decisions. This would reverse the democratic deficit where Scotland with one Tory MP is ruled by a Tory government.
Removing weapons of mass destruction from the Clyde would be another benefit of independence.
I believe the bigger the entity the more prone to dysfunctional workings it becomes - countries are no different. The UK is too big and decisions need to be taken closer to the people. I also believe that Scotland's needs and wants have diverged from the South of England significantly over the last 30 years, and yet the current constitutional arrangement cannot effectively deal with this. Taking these two beliefs together, Scotland needs independence to allow views of the people to actually be reflected in government policies in order to build a society that means something to the members - and is fit-for-use in the 21st century.
Decisions made by a democratically elected independent Scottish Government will best serve the interests of the Scottish people. The Westminster Government is not representative of Scottish voting and does not serve the best interests of Scotland or the Scottish people. We will have the opportunity to create a modern progressive society based on ideals, aspirations and social justice and no longer be trapped in the colonial traditions of a long gone empire.
Scotland is controlled from England the seat of power, therefore almost all tax monies collected go mostly to the benefit of England. In England you will find the head offices of almost all government agencies. These offices are for the most part serviced by English people who naturally will always put England first. For example buildings for the design of new aircraft of aircraft as well a R and D are located in England. A Scot wishing to get into this line of work must leave his or her own country and move to England. Guess what a generation later the family is no longer Scottish but English this is just one example. I am sure there are many, many more. The B.B.C tries to shape Scottish culture. If you speak with a Scottish accent your roll on a B.B.C. Program will be that of a thug. If you happen to be a Scottish doctor,lawyer, or professor you will speak with an English accent. Anything to down the Scottish language. I could go on but this will give you a taste of how may Scots feel.
Scotland has been contributing more to the UK economy than it has being getting back for a long time now yet we have been labelled subsidy junkies reliant on English handouts firstly by Westminster politicians to stop us running off with all the oil and now by the British media and English population who wrongly believe the myth. The problem we have if we vote no is the calls coming from England to slash our budget. If we vote No then we will be powerless against Westminster and will surely have a lost generation of Scots suffer no end until we finally vote to end the mess once and for all years down the line. A no vote is a lot more scary than a yes vote for me. I`d rather face an uncertain future with the full powers of an independent parliament than face an uncertain future with all the major decisions being taken for me by unsympathetic parliament in another country.
Those in favour of an independent Scots State? Yes Scotland, The SNP, The Scottish Green Party, The SSP and various other free-thinkers.
Those opposed to an independent Scotland? The Conservative Party, The Labour Party, The Liberal Democratic Party, UKIP, The DUP, The UUP, The BNP, The Times, The Independent, The Daily Mail, The Scotsman , The Star, The Guardian, The Daily Express, The Sun, The BBC, The Orange Order, The Daily Record, Sky TV, The Civil Service and, of course, Vitol.
Why would such a powerful alliance be formed if Scotland was really a hapless nation of subsidy-junkies?
In short, the rulers of the Unted Kingdom face losing their most valuable posession and are desperate to avoid the loss at all costs.
I believe that small countries offer better political accountability and allow government that is not so removed from the people and not concentrated in a small elite. I see this as an amazing opportunity for Scotland to build a fairer, more equal society and to take responsibility for our own decisions and our own mistakes. On a more pragmatic note I am furious that we have been misled for decades into believing that we are subsidized by the rest of the UK when in fact we are a wealthy country with large economic potential (going well beyond north sea oil).
Those in favour of an independent Scots state? Yes Scotland, The SNP, The Scottish Green Party, The SSP and various other free-thinkers.
Those opposed to an independent Scots state? The Conservative Party, The Labour Party, The Liberal Democrat Party, UKIP, The DUP, The UUP, The BNP, The Sun, The Star, The BBC, The Daily Mail, The Times, The Mirror, The Guardian, The Independent, The Orange Order, The Scotsman, The Daily Record, The Telegraph, The Express, The Civil Service and, of course, Vitol.
Why would such a coalition be formed if Scotland were really a burdensome nation of subsidy junkies?
In short, the rulers of the UK risk losing their most valuable possession and are desperate to avoid doing so.
In all practicalities, Scotland would not earn nearly enough money to cover the welfare system in place or any of the public sector employment. The welfare system in Scotland costs £104 billion per annum, with 20 billion approximately being the cost of the NHS. Scotland has a GDP of between 1 and 10 billion per year -depending on which sources you examine - which includes oil royalties.
Without the trade and only 2 million tax payers to cover the costs it is an ill-conceived idea to consider independence. It is very likely that without the Royal Mint, Post Office, Pensions and EU membership that Scotland would survive 10 years without approaching the UK to rejoin.
On a post script note, it is worth noting that 80% of the employment in Scotland is in the Public Sector which means that some employed in the Public Sector now, would lose their jobs. All pay would be decreased with a massive surge in taxation.
We would be poor and Alex Salmond would proclaim himself "dictator for life" Next thing you know hes wearing red boots and assembling the Salmond youth, turning to Germany for support and its animal farm all over again. And we will be all like ENGLAND TAKE US BACK I LOVE YOU IM SORRY!!!!! And you know what they will say? They will say you know this big vault of gold? You what its called... it called SUCK IT!
Scotland should always remain in the United Kingdom. If Scotland became independent there would be far too many problems. Firstly it would have to either take on the euro as currency, It would lose its power and those visiting England would have to use their passports to emigrate. Scotland must not leave the United Kingdom at all.
For all you idealists out there the idea of independence would be a catastrophe for Scotland. Believe me when I say I'm Scottish, but I don't believe that we would benefit at all. Scotland has a reputation for blowing money. In the past, city councils in Aberdeen, Dundee and Glasgow have all blown money on horrible schemes where benefit living junkies lurk about. Even 300 years ago when we were independent, Scotland was in a dire state until we united with England and in the next 200 years we conquered a quarter of the world. Apart from Salmond and Sturgeon, Scotland has no other politicians that are actually smart enough for running a country by themselves. Please do not mention the magic word OIL because for all we know Scotland will probably lose links with oil companies if we separate. PLEASE VOTE NO because sooner or later we will crawl back to England and we will be united again.
If Scotland became independent it would lose Royal Mail, the security services, the BBC and other British things. It's completely pointless. The only people who want an independent Scotland are rebellious teenagers and power-hungry politicians who want to have their own country. Scotland wouldn't last a year without the rest of the U.K.
I'm Scottish. Look at the facts.
Better off? Yeah right. The oil is already drying up, in 30 years time it won't be here. So in 30 years time, a big industry is lost. We can't go back. Independence is for life, not until finances aren't comfy enough for us. What other industries? Fishing, for instance, stocks already drying up and not a big market due to tight controls already, countries like Iceland with less constraints are cornering the market.
Reality is, even if we pay a lot towards the Government, the UK provides stability. In an economic crash we've got some more money than without the UK for sure. We are lucky already, a devolved Scottish government, separate banks, separate NHS.
The reality is, independence sounds good on the face of it. Freedom! Money! Quality of life! Some people need a wake up call. A big part of the economy (and the downturn of it too) is from the EU. For a big country (in terms of impact) such as a complete UK, the regulations and trading can be a mix of good or bad, depending on your opinion of course. For a small, unimportant country (and yes, on its own, at least at the start, Scotland WILL be unimportant) it is a lifeline. A lot more trading, more stability, tons more stuff. Whether the EU is good for a larger country with a better economy is arguable. For a small country to get money and trade in Europe, it's a necessity. To get INTO the EU requires a lot of things. A lot of things which, as soon as Scotland separates, we won't have.
Scotland isn't oppressed. It isn't downtrodden. It isn't the land of William Wallace, we aren't Highlanders clad in tartan preparing to fight for the right to speak Scots, play bagpipes and the right to freedom and our own land. That's hundreds of years ago. Scotland is a thriving, vibrant country with brilliant people, brilliant businesses and brilliant connections, we need the UK for that, especially economic hubs like London.
After reading the yes responses it seems that those saying yes are being very patriotic and are not considering the economy. It goes back to the whole "Scottish" not "British"...Scotland being independent means more taxes and more idiots like Alex Salmond with more power, sitting sipping his Champagne to celebrate while we will have to work harder to pay for his mess and lifestyle.
It should remain part of the United Kingdom. It has been part of Great Britain for many years now! If it did become independent many folks would start riots, fights, etc. Everyone would want to go back to the United Kingdom, and it can't just go back to normal! Scotland would struggle being an independent country. As a part of the United Kingdom we would have more power in the world. I strongly am against the fact that Scotland should become an independent country.
Scotland should not be independent as it lacks planning. Other nations who have become independent have had well thought out plans and have had all the necessary paper work and documents filled out. Also tax will have to be raised to pay all the extra expenses. A lot of jobs will be lost when the nuclear plant is shut down. How long will Scotland be able to keep up all there promises before they go bankrupt. the oil is a finite resource so will no provide Scotland with the necessary funds. As they will be a small nation with no certain future they will have no bargaining power in the UN (not to mention they may not even be able to be part of the UN) and other countries will no be willing to invest in them because of there uncertain future . If they were to end up in the same position of the banking bailouts Scotland would have no security blanket to fall back upon. Scotland also does not have the plans nor the power/money to exploit there resources in such a way which would support the country adequately. These are only some of many arguments for Scotland to remain as part of the UK.