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  • Because T isn't part of the argument in legislation

    The reason LGB was and is such an important movement is because people in the past were legally restricted from practicing their arbitrary freedom of whom they chose to be with. The argument behind transgenderism is by far more individualistic and has a very weak argument over legislative oppression of any kind; moreover, what they wish to accomplish is very unclear. Adding T to LGB assumes that gays, lesbians, and bi promote activism under a common philosophy when in fact sexuality and identity are two very different things.

    From the perspective of actual activism, adding T hurts the movement by diluting what it actually stands for. Any movement with unclear goals and a weak argument is a folly with no real purpose.

    For example, I can support overturning legislation that infringes equality in marriage and other government conventions enjoyed by an average citezen. However, legislation that enforces arbitrary definition of identity is something I do not understand. I supported LGB because they had a clear argument over their violated rights. TQIA+++ and so on, I don't even know what the dialog is about anymore.

  • The T is irrelevant

    Homosexuality and bisexuality are words use to denotate sexual orientation. Transexuality, while it has the same "sexual" suffix, has nothing to do with sexual orientation. There are gay and straight trans people, so while it may seem rather rude to kick them out of the group, they really don't belong.

  • Rather than the T being tossed...

    Not a good option. Though, I can say sometimes our ways do not really align. At the end of the day, our goals are the same, equal treatment under the law. More importantly, we want to also wipe out the misguided hatred that can be viral and deadly. We deserve to be treated with respect and dignity, all of us.

  • Rather than the T being tossed...

    Not a good option. Though, I can say sometimes our ways do not really align. At the end of the day, our goals are the same, equal treatment under the law. More importantly, we want to also wipe out the misguided hatred that can be viral and deadly. We deserve to be treated with respect and dignity, all of us.

  • Follow the money.

    The "T" are very confused people. The suicide rate among them is very high, especially once they receive irreversible hormone "treatments". Pandering to these people's delusions is in fact greatly harming them.

    If you follow the money as to who is funding this sick stuff, it doesn't take very long before you find a Soros, a Rockefeller, or one of their ultra-rich friends. These are ultra-richies who want to smash Western society so that they can take control of the globe. The transgender agenda is part of this overall agenda of theirs.

  • Gender identity and sexuality are two separate categories hence the reason why T should be taken off LGB

    Homosexuality and bisexuality and heterosexuality are LGBS which are sexual orientations (sexual preference) whereas cisgender and transsexualism are gender identity so therefore sexuality and gender identity are two completely different categories therefore it should be LGBS not LGBT as trans individuals shouldn't be associated with homosexual/pansexual/asexual/bisexual zone as they're not even a similarity.

  • T should be taken off LGB.

    Gender identity does not come under the same category as sexuality as gender identity and sexuality are two completely separate categories, gender identity comes under the terminology for individuals who gender identify themselves as cisgender or as transsexual/transgender person so it's is not a sexual preference whereas homosexuality and bisexuality are! Sexual orientation is a sexual preference like lesbian, gay, bisexual, straight (heterosexuality) so it should be LGBS community not LGBT as transsexualism shouldn't be associated homosexuality as they not even similarity. Whatever your sexual preference is it don't have any associations with the gender you identify yourself with whether you're cisgender or transgender which is different gender identity terminology for persons who identify themselves as ftm, mtf or bigendered or non-binary etc or a transsexual which is gender identity terms for those who identify themselves as ftm or mtf hence the reasons why trans individuals shouldn't be associated with homosexuals or bisexuals zone as they're not similarities.

  • T should be taken off LGB.

    Gender identity does not come under the same category as sexuality as gender identity and sexuality are two completely separate categories, gender identity comes under the terminology for individuals who gender identify themselves as cisgender or as transsexual/transgender person so it's is not a sexual preference whereas homosexuality and bisexuality are! Sexual orientation is a sexual preference like lesbian, gay, bisexual, straight (heterosexuality) so it should be LGBS community not LGBT as transsexualism shouldn't be associated homosexuality as they not even similarity. Whatever your sexual preference is it don't have any associations with the gender you identify yourself with whether you're cisgender or transgender which is different gender identity terminology for persons who identify themselves as ftm, mtf or bigendered or non-binary etc or a transsexual which is gender identity terms for those who identify themselves as ftm or mtf hence the reasons why trans individuals shouldn't be associated with homosexuals or bisexuals zone as they're not similarities.

  • T should be taken off the LGB

    Gender identity comes under the term of transsexualism/transgender which isn't a sexual preference whereas Homosexuality (gay/lesbian) and bisexuality are sexual orientation related so gender identity and sexuality are not a same category hence the reason why T shouldn't associated with LGB as tansgender/transsexual and Homosexuality/bisexuality are not similarity they are two completely different category.

  • Sexuality and Gender Identity are Separate

    Gender Identity is a completely different construct with completely different facets to the rest. It seems nonsensical to group them based off of their mutual minority statuses or 'socially deviant' qualities. Intersex conditions are a completely different all together. Agreed, the communities are intertwined in a common respect of feminism and other progressing narratives; therefore the debate should rather be whether or not LGBT+ is a political or a social group, but never a determinant of who the individual is.

  • No. Absolutely not!

    No. Many transgendered people do actually suffer from genuine biological compulsions that make them feel they are actually of the opposite sex. It would be very dangerous to disregard their biological/psychological concerns; on top of this they are one of the most vulnerable members in our society. I believe it would be a huge mistake to ignore or reject them in the LGBT community!

  • Purple canary in the pink coal mine

    Of course not. They are an incredibly vulnerable minority within a minority that is slowly gaining political strength and recognition. While I agree that the causes of transgender people are not always exactly the same as LGB people, all stand together under the brand of queer. Traditionally, trans have been the most visible and consequently the most oppressed segment of the queer community. Until trans people share the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, no gay person can hope that recent improvements in LGB rights will last. They are the purple canary in the pink coal mine.

  • Keep the T.

    While being Transsexual is different thing from LGB, transsexual's still get discriminated against and being part of that community would make them feel welcome and part of something important. Transsexuals are also still part of LGB as if they were born males and like males they were born gay but if they're were born male and like females then they're now lesbian. So really they are part of LGB and having the T doesn't take away from the importance of LGB or change it at all.

  • Rather than the T being tossed...

    Not a good option. Though, I can say sometimes our ways do not really align. At the end of the day, our goals are the same, equal treatment under the law. More importantly, we want to also wipe out the misguided hatred that can be viral and deadly. We deserve to be treated with respect and dignity, all of us.

  • NO, It should NOT.

    ,Okay, here I go.
    Everyone is a person, had a gender, and life INCLUDING TRANSGENDER PEOPLE. They can add to the LGBT+ flag (just not pedos) but they should NOT remove from the flag. It would show more and more disrespect of the transgenders out there. A lot of my online and IRL friends are transgender. But, I still respect other people's opinions. Thank you for your time.

  • It should not be removed.

    Okay, here I go.
    Everyone is a person, had a gender, and life INCLUDING TRANSGENDER PEOPLE. They can add to the LGBT+ flag (just not pedos) but they should NOT remove from the flag. It would show more and more disrespect of the transgenders out there. A lot of my online and IRL friends are transgender. But, I still respect other people's opinions. Thank you for your time.

  • It should not be removed.

    Okay, here I go.
    Everyone is a person, had a gender, and life INCLUDING TRANSGENDER PEOPLE. They can add to the LGBT+ flag (just not pedos) but they should NOT remove from the flag. It would show more and more disrespect of the transgenders out there. A lot of my online and IRL friends are transgender. But, I still respect other people's opinions. Thank you for your time.

  • The T Needs to Stay

    The fact that is is even an issue is just sad. Transgender+ people are every part as valid as the gay,lesbian, and bisexual part of LGBT. To say that being transgender has nothing to do with being LGBT is wrong. Last I checked there are many of our transgendered brothers and sisters who also identify as gay, lesbian, bi, pan, etc. These people and individuals are as valid as the rest of us. To say that they aren't, simply because they're mental gender doesn't align with their gender assigned at Birth is appalling. Everyone needs a place to belong. Transgender as well as other LGB individuals are the targets to unfair laws, discrimination, etc and even transphobic people inside the LGBT+ community itself. It honestly is appalling that there are those that seek to discriminate against those that aren't a cisgendered gay, lesbian, bi, etc individual. To put them down for this fact is ludicrous. So yes, the T Needs to Stay. Also Queer people are valid too.

  • Learn your history. We fought for your rights. Marsha P Johnson and Silvia Rivera were AT STONEWALL.

    I'm sorry, you all cis LGB people are horrible human beings. We fight, side by side to give laws protecting you from discrimination and for marriage equality. You say "wait, you'll be next".

    You bail on us, don't help us get laws to stop the rampant discrimination against us, and say to stop us, and then drop us completely.

    You can't have a better example of "I got mine, thanks for the help but screw you".

    You all 80% are so wrong you had better take a good look in the mirror on how awful you are, laughing is off as our rights are not gained, but actually taken from us, after we fought for and with you.

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  • We have a rainbow of sexual and gender minorities.

    There is plenty of room under the rainbow for everyone. However, if the LGBs think they're doing well enough to be on their own, then I would encourage all allies to put their entire support behind the Ts (and Qs and other gender identities) who have been neglected for far too long.


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