If everybody is equal before law, then every country is equal before international law. The five permanent (?) members holding the veto power have jointly or severally defied UN General Assembly decisions passed with absolute majority. Thus the veto power has always been, and will be for ever, an undemocratic instrument wielded by the world powers to their own advantage as defined by their respective governments regardless of human rights international law.
It is officially said by China and Russia that they have pledged to use their veto powers to save Sri Lanka in case of an economic sanction by UN members against Sri Lanka. Thus, there is no point in passing any resolution by UNHRC (forget about putting the Sri Lankan president into UN court). Since China has invested so much in Sri Lanka, it would obviously not want any resolution passed against Sri Lanka. So, let's say that genocide did happen really. In that case, Sri Lanka would go unpunished, with China using its veto power. Issues such as the above can never get justice.
With the Veto powers Intact, we have seen, time and time again, where the Veto powers have been used not as a format to address legitimate threats to National Security or In support of Protection of Lesser Nations, but for the Political Insularity of nations (Russia & China) primarily. Whereas a "Majority Rules" outcome would more equally represent the needs and benefits requried by unrepresented Nations. These 5 Veto Nations hold the fates of too many peoples in their hands to allow for a Veto to undo months, even years of work on existing issues, and to effective react to emergencies, ie; Wars whether domestic, ethnic cleansing, you name them. We also have countries who are so economicaly tied to the two VETO nations previously mentioned, that an Automatic VETO is to expected for them to protect their Major trading partners. It appears to no longer be a "Security Council" but more closely mirrors an "Economic Council".
The UN should have a very subjective look at the problems and come to an agreement democratically. One country should not be able to stop any changes. If countries can then it seems to me that they can dictate a bit, as well as possibly change the status quo, slightly.
The United Nations has members all around the world and I can't really find a reason for some of them to have veto powers. After all, that's not the equality the UN tries so hard to obtain in the world! Of course, there are corrupt countries, but those who have veto powers aren't behind, especially RUSSIA!! That ONLY protects those countries' interests and can obviously prejudice the others who don't have them. I can't even believe how so many people defend the veto powers. I'm so shocked about this.
The veto power of the UN security council is totally unfair. It harms other countries other than the permanents as the opinion on their basis is not given much importance as given to the permanents. Even if one of the members of the security council is not willing to a given appeal of the other 4 members the given appeal would be abolished & it would not hold any importance. In this way any of the permanent members could make their profit ( if any appeal is harming or against one of the permanents but in favor of the others or making profit of the whole world, it could be abolished by the unwilling member of the appeal. Thats why this veto power is unfair and hence, it should be abolished which would lead to the abolition of the permanent members of the UN.
"The Security Council failed to act during the Rwandan genocide in 1994 due to the hidden vetoes of France and the US. The Americans were interested in saving money and the French were interested in saving their ally, the genocidal government. 800,000 people died because permanent members considered an earlier UN intervention contrary to their interests" Celine Nahory
Unless these veto powers are only for actions within these permanent 5, there is no point as to why France should vote on what the UN does in Rwanda.
Because it has been written in the rules that there is no discrimination and members have equal right, but with the presence of veto right is contrary with the rules, and the veto rights is dominated by modern nations which have large ego with its self , and how about the developing nation which still not represented yet in veto right.
My point is very specific. If West is promoting democracy in the world, it needs to practice it first, mainly at UN and Security Council, and all other international stages. The criteria for veto power is biased and not in favor of the global peace. It creates further divisions in the nations across the globe, resulting into creation of more groups of countries (lined behind the nations who have veto power) and others, even worse, opposing the entire world like North Korea. This is time to abolish this unfair system of veto.
In Rwanda and Darfur, people died because of a veto. It must be rid off. Everyone should have their own vote. It's absurd that 12,000,000 people died because of a veto. The United Security Council Permanent Members use their veto for their own allies. It's not a good thing to keep the veto. Risking more peoples lives isn't good.
Without the veto, dictatorship could happen. At the end of World War two, the world united nations was MADE to prevent any other world wars happening. Has there been one since? NO. no, there hasn't.
In addition to this, the five countries who gained the power deserved it, and MOST are known to be democratic societies. if we had syria in the power five, would the world work? It wouldn't. The veto is imperative to ensure no bad, crazy actions occur.
All countries in the world are not on equal level of development. Especially in the part of the meeting of human rights and freedoms are huge differences between member States of the UN. There are still countries in the world whose governments are in the hands of people who do not necessarily represent the interests of the people even such officials be allowed to talk politics in the world frames they can bring catastrophic decisions for these reasons is necessary the existence of the veto in the UN council.
The resolutions that are passed by the UNSC are almost always non-binding and so, whether they are passed or not, nothing significant will change. If a resolution is passed, no one is required to abide by it. If it is not passed, no one is required to refrain from carrying out those actions. There is really no reason to take the time to strip the veto power from the P5.
Plus, there is no way to do it b/c the P5 would obviously veto anything that said they would no longer have veto power ;)
The permanent members of the UN Security Council should keep their veto powers. The United Nations is supposed to be an organization for diplomacy, not world government. If the permanent members of the council were to lose their veto powers, their national sovereignty would be compromised. This may already be true of non-permanent members, but I don't live in one of those countries, so I don't care.
Here are the reasons:
1. The UN needs help from the P5 members to fund peacekeeping missions and a lot of other stuff
2. Israel will be unfairly bashed, and US won't be able to help!
3. US uses its veto to block all kinds of nasty things
4. Veto is crucial for maintaining peace...We could hinder the cooperation of the P5 members, which could lead to all kinds of conflicts.
If veto power is abolished, it might lead to disastrous effects on the world, because small countries might make alliances to pass resolutions which would make other countries pay for their development. Important countries have to have a big impact on the UN's decisions. Countries like the United States give about 40% of the UN's funds, therefore their view has to be taken into account more seriously.
Certain countries have to be in charge. If you let countries like North Korea or Syria have as much power as other countries, this will only lead to chaos.
The UN was created to prevent a WWIII from happening: so far so good. So why change a system that works?
If veto powers are abolished, then unstable places in the world will be completely destroyed (Israel).
People in society who do not respect rules are punished by law. Why should countries that do not respect human rights, etc. Be given the same power as others?
You will probably say that the veto power is unfair and that it causes arguments to not get resolved. But think for just a minute. If countries in the UNSC have trouble finding agreements, doesn't that mean that multiple sides of arguments are represented? Take the Iran-Israeli conflict. Russia and China are allied to Iran whilst the other veto powers lean towards Israel. Although you may say Iran and Israel don't really have a say in the conflict because they do not have veto power, they do actually have quite a say in it...
1. The opening words of the Charter, “We the Peoples”, reflect the fundamental principle of democracy that the will of the people is the source of legitimacy of sovereign states and therefore of the United Nations as a whole.
2. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights, adopted by the General Assembly in 1948, clearly projected the concept of democracy by stating “the will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government.
3. The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (1966) lays the legal basis for the principles of democracy under international law, particularly:
• freedom of expression (Article 19); the right of peaceful assembly (Article 21);
• the right to freedom of association with others (Article 22);
• the right and opportunity to take part in the conduct of public affairs, directly or through freely chosen representatives
The US has prevented major negative policies from going into effect as well as promoting world peace, democracy, capitalism, and other progressive ideals necessary to bring the undeveloped world onto the stage with long industrialized nations. The US and other members of the council have so far used the veto for good, so why remove it?
P5 countries are absolutely different from the historical point of view. They have followed different historical paths and currently follow different foreign policy strategy. This mechanism helps to keep the balance and ensure stability. None of countries is able to use the Security Council as the instrument of foreign affairs.