US electoral college: Is the electoral college undemocratic?

  • I tis undemocractic

    It is against democracy, it has no reason to be around it was okay back in the 1800 but in modern society is is s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s stupid.

  • Disproportionate Representation Undermines Democracy

    There are two obvious major flaws with the electoral college method that our country uses. It violates the one vote per person system, and could possibly elect the unpopular candidate. The point of the electoral college is to emphasize small states, and make them more important to the candidates. This might sound beneficial in theory, but it undermines simple democratic ideology. If electoral votes were distributed proportionately, Wyoming would only have one vote, what it should get based on it's low population. But instead, Wyoming voter's choice is inflated to three times more than it should be. That is not right. It does not even follow the most basic philosophy of democracy: one vote per person! The other fail of the electoral college system is that it allocates delegates in a winner-take-all fashion. This is wrong in that if 50%-1 voted for one candidate in a particular state, there votes would get zero representation because the system rules give all the delegates in this situation to the other candidate. The effects of this imperfect way of electing representation are exemplified in the previous United Kingdom general election, in which the Conservative party received 37% of the vote, but 51% representation in parliament just because it won 51% of the districts. This is insanity, and has even happened in the United States when Al Gore won 50.3% of the vote in 2000, and George W. Bush was elected president, winning three of the four most over represented states. The United States should eliminate the electoral college system and elect our president by raw votes. It is the Democratic way to go about our elections.

  • It is baloni

    I dont like it at all. People don't get the true say in who becomes president. For example al gore did not become president even though he got the majority of the vote. The electoral college will put people into office that a majority of americans don't want. That bullcrap

  • Every vote, everywhere should equally matter to the candidates

    The Electoral College is now the set of 538 dedicated party activists who vote as rubberstamps for their party’s presidential candidate. That is not what the Founders intended.

    During the course of campaigns, candidates are educated and campaign about the local, regional, and state issues most important to the handful of battleground states they need to win. They take this knowledge and prioritization with them once they are elected. Candidates need to be educated and care about all of our states.

    The current state-by-state winner-take-all method of awarding electoral votes (not mentioned in the U.S. Constitution, but since enacted by 48 states), under which all of a state's electoral votes are awarded to the candidate who gets the most votes in each separate state, ensures that the candidates, after the conventions, in 2012 did not reach out to about 80% of the states and their voters. 10 of the original 13 states are ignored now. Candidates had no reason to poll, visit, advertise, organize, campaign, or care about the voter concerns in the states where they were safely ahead or hopelessly behind.

    80% of the states and people were just spectators to the presidential election. That's 40 states, more than 200 million Americans.

    Policies important to the citizens of non-battleground states are not as highly prioritized as policies important to ‘battleground’ states when it comes to governing.

    Since WWII, a shift of a few thousand votes in one or two states would have elected the second-place candidate in 4 of the 15 presidential elections

    The National Popular Vote bill preserves the Electoral College and state control of elections. It changes the way electoral votes are awarded in the Electoral College.

    Under National Popular Vote, every vote, everywhere, would be politically relevant and equal in every presidential election. Every vote would be included in the state counts and national count. When states with a combined total of at least 270 electoral votes enact the bill, the candidate with the most popular votes in the country would get the needed majority of 270+ electoral votes from the enacting states. The bill would thus guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes.

    States have the responsibility and power to make all of their voters relevant in every presidential election and beyond.

    Unable to agree on any particular method, the Founders left the choice of method for selecting presidential electors exclusively to the states by adopting the language contained in section 1 of Article II of the U.S. Constitution-- "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors . . ." The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly characterized the authority of the state legislatures over the manner of awarding their electoral votes as "plenary" and "exclusive."

    With NPV, we would still be a republic, in which citizens continue to elect the President by a majority of Electoral College votes by states, to represent us and conduct the business of government.

  • Sometimes democracies go awry

    The Founding Fathers understood that direct election of the executive by the people could end badly - in mob rule or demagoguery. They gleaned this from Plutarch, Plato, and Thucydides. The electoral college is an unpopular but necessary check on democracy that we need. That said, the 'party pledge' system now undertaken is wrong.

  • It Is Democratic

    The electoral college is a function of democracy. It is a tool for how American democracy is carried out. True, it can be inefficient at times, but it still carries out its purpose in expressing the will of the American voting public. That said, it could be reformed to work better.

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