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  • Yeah he was pretty apathetic towards black people

    Make no mistake the Civil War was absolutely about slavery. It was also largely about states rights. But the issue of states rights came up because of the argument over the outlawing of slavery. States rights was the defense used by the states which eventually made up the Confederacy.
    Lincolns main goal in leading the civil war was that he was extremely dedicated to ending slavery at all costs. He was quoted to have said he didn't care if the country stayed one with legalized slavery or by abolishing it so long as the country did indeed stay together. So in short he didn't really care if there was slavery or no slavery he just wanted a united country and could've honestly cared less if people were enslaved. He told Harriet Beecher Stowe that she "made this big war" with her book Uncle Tom's Cabin because she enflamed northern abolitionism. He didn't like that.
    Lincoln also did not have a grudge against the Confederacy he welcomed them back with open arms in order to make the transition back into one country easier. They were not to be punished for the war until after Lincoln's death.
    Source: International Baccalaureate History of the Americas course student.

  • A very proud and unapologetic one too

    Now not that this has anything to do with the question (since slavery and racism are not the same), Lincoln didn't really end slavery, and unlike what IDIOTS HERE SAY, Lincoln NEVER made any mention about this WAR BEING ABOUT SLAVERY. He never did. That is just something idiots love to say. He never claimed it was about slavery. HE NEVER DID. Lincoln wanted to weaken the Confederate states, not anything else.

    Lincoln was a proud racist for the most part who didn't think blacks were the same as whites.

  • Yes, sadly he was.

    By modern standards Lincoln was a racist. He openly opposed slavery often spoke of the need to end it in America. However, he also said that he did not consider black people to be equal to white people and made many other remarks that we would consider racist. That said, it is not really fair to judge a man of the eighteenth century by the standards of the twenty-first century.

  • Weiner Weiner Weiner

    God himself has made them for usefulness as slaves, and requires us to employ them as such, and if we betray our trust, and throw them off on their own resources, we reconvert them into barbarians.
    Our Heavenly Father has made us to rule, and the Negroes to serve, and if we... Set aside his holy arrangements... And tamper with his laws, we shall be overthrown and eternally degraded, and perhaps made subjects of some other civilized nation....

  • Lincoln Was Definitely a Racist

    Famous Abe Lincoln Quote:

    “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

  • He wanted to preserve the Union

    Lincoln's only goal was to preserve the Union. In fact, in his inauguration, he stated his goal was to keep slavery as an institution in the South. He once said to a group of freed slaves that 'your people and my people are inherently different, yours is inferior to mine, and we both must accept the mutual negativity that results from the other'.

  • Is there evidence?

    There really isn't any evidence to support this. Yes, a major issue of the civil war besides slavery was states rights, but that proves nothing. He worked to pass the 13th amendment, even negotiating its ratification with southern states that would be readmitted to the union. Enforcing fugitive slave laws is no proof. Where is the proof? With out any sources Aff arguments are invalid, and the burden of proof is on them.

  • I'm sorry what?

    This man was not a racist, after all it was he who signed the Emancipation Proclamation freeing all black slaves, or am I incorrect? He also lead the US in the bloodiest war in History to free the black man and reunite the Union... Unless I am wrong again? No average anti-racist would lead a war to free an entire people, would they?

  • Lincoln the Great

    Although Lincoln's main goal wasn't to abolish slavery in the Civil War, he still was against it. He thought there was no way to abolish slavery in the U.S. If you even WAS a racist, he was less racist than a lot of people, because he didn't actually own slaves while the other people and presidents did. So quit hating on one of the most famous presidents. Besides, he IS the one who signed the Emancipation Proclamation. If he was racist, he wouldn't have signed it. End of story.

  • NO...He wasn't. Do research.

    Regardless of EARLIER quotes, we have to consider the evidence that his views CHANGED over time.

    "he was clearly reluctant to join in the commonplace assumption of the time concerning the racial superiority of whites over blacks. When such assertions were made by Lincoln, and these were rare, they were not spontaneously volunteered, and even when, as we shall see, these were wrung from him, they were defensive in nature, given the political contexts of their utterance, and they were qualified, rather than confidently categorical. This reluctance to admit of the inequality of the races was further exhibited in the following observation, where Lincoln clearly implies a belief in the categorical equality of all men, of all races and of all ethnic and class origins:

    "As President, Lincoln's struggle to end the Civil War and preserve the nation left him deeply sympathetic to the plight of the slaves and increased his belief in the need for racial equality in America.

    "After seeing over 200,000 African-Americans volunteer and fight alongside Union forces, Lincoln dropped his support for plans to colonize freed slaves to Africa after the Civil War. In an 1863 speech, Lincoln stated, "there will be some black men who can remember that, with silent tongue, and clenched teeth, and steady eye, and well-poised bayonet, they have helped mankind on to this great consummation, while, I fear, there will be some white ones, unable to forget that, with malignant heart, and deceitful speech, they have strove to hinder it."

    "To apply 20th century beliefs and standards to an America of 1858 and declare Abraham Lincoln a "racist" is a faulty formula that unfairly distorts Lincoln's true role in advancing civil and human rights. By the standards of his time, Lincoln's views on race and equality were progressive and truly changed minds, policy and most importantly, hearts for years to come."

    "In the long-run conflict between deeply held convictions on one hand and habits of conformity to the cultural practices of a binary society on the other, the gravitational forces were all in the direction of equality. By a static analysis, Lincoln was a mild opponent of slavery and a moderate defender of racial discrimination. By a dynamic analysis, he held a concept of humanity which impelled him inexorably in the direction of freedom and equality."

    "When Frederick Douglass arrived at the White House in August, 1863, to meet Lincoln for the first time, he expected to meet a 'white man's president, entirely devoted to the welfare of the white men.' But he came away surprised to find Lincoln 'the first great man that I talked with in the United States freely who in no single instance reminded me of the difference between himself and myself, or the difference of color.' The reason Douglass surmised, was 'because of the similarity with which I had fought my way up, we both starting at the lowest rung of the ladder." This, in Douglass's mind, made Lincoln 'emphatically the black man's president.'""

  • Read closer please

    Unfortunately, you have been sold a bill of goods. I just hope that you are open to the possibility that the book(s) you are reading is not the WHOLE story, and willing to read MORE or what Lincoln himself said and did, and not just what these folks have "uncovered".

    To apply 20th century beliefs and standards to an America of 1858 and declare Abraham Lincoln a "racist" is a faulty formula that unfairly distorts Lincoln's true role in advancing civil and human rights. By the standards of his time, Lincoln's views on race and equality were progressive and truly changed minds, policy and most importantly, hearts for years to come.

  • Read a book

    Well, he might not match up to what we would expect of a leader today -- but he was actually FAR ahead of most in his day. He also DID believe that slavery was absolutely morally WRONG -- a wrong against fellow HUMAN BEINGS, and he argued repeatedly, from at least 1854 on, that the rights referred to in the Declaration DO belong to blacks as well. He showed NO animosity toward them. And by the end of his Presidency clearly regarded many quite highly, even suggesting that at least the educated ones, and those who had fought, deserved the franchise.


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Adam2isback says2015-01-09T00:46:54.897
And being Swedish (cause he was part Swedish), he was definitely an open racist. Sweden has had a lot of horrible history (their subjugation of Finland being one of them).