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  • Yes, Absolutely For Sure

    Obi-Wan trained Anakin who became one of the most powerful Jedi/Sith of all time. He killed Darth Maul, killed General Grievous, survived two encounters with Count Douku, survived two encounters with Darth Vader, curbed Vader's power by burning him to death. Obi-Wan stayed undetected by the Empire for years. Led and trained Luke. Led Luke to Yoda. Had a big part in destroying the Empire. Sat on the Jedi Council. He really was a kick ass Jedi.

    Inb4 Yoda... Obi-Wan accomplished a lot more in Crunch Time than Yoda ever did. Yoda fought the Emperor once and gave up...

  • Darth Mauls' death

    For the simple fact that Darth Maul had the high ground. Obi was hanging on for life, used the force to grab Jinns saber while leaping over Maul then hacking him in half. Powerful move. So powerful Anakin must learn this, and does, yet isn't as successful. Obi is pretty powerful. My No. 1

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  • Swiss army knife of jthe jedi

    If you pick one subject for comparison he is not the 1st even in one of them. He is the 2nd/3th best in everything . He is versatile like a Swiss army knife. He is not a good pilot as good as anakin , and obi wan has a phobia about flying but come on he is a brilliant pilot nevertheless . Do we know the other jedi pilots ? Maybe few of them. Entire empire fleet was looking for this guy he was about 70 when he decided to go and face with Darth Vader. Teaching skills ? Yoda 1st this guy is the second . He has one thousand other skills that we don't know if the others have . Obi wan is the true legend anakin is the rockstar .

  • Yes but not what they you might expect.

    Obi Wan may not be the best duelist or force user, the best acrobat or the best martial artist or even the wisest jedi ever but that is what makes Obi Wan Kenobi special.

    He doesn't make decisions based on emotions but understands emotions are what make people who they are. He is calculating but not afraid to make unorthodox decessions.

    He tries to become the best he can be not to show off he is the best of the whole temple. He is the master of learning. I also find him condescending but that is where he gets his humor. I would rather learn from him than yoda from understanding human nature a lot better than any other jedi.

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  • Probably, but it depends

    What matters? Lightsaber skills, understanding of the Force, Force abilities? Depending on which we value most, our answer may change.

    George Lucas has named Luke as "greatest Jedi ever". Here's what the books add:

    1) Windu is the most dangerous Jedi with a lightsaber. He developed his own style, which somewhat channels the dark side
    2) Obi-Wan is the most durable Jedi with a lightsaber. This claim is made by Windu himself as a prediction of Obi-Wan's defeat of Grievous, whose computer-enhanced brain countered all attacks (including Windu)
    3) Yoda is most knowledgeable and in-tune with the Force

    Accomplishments:

    Defeating Darth Maul
    Essentially a skilled lucky strike. He was enraged by witnessing Qui-Gon's death, and Maul let his guard down. Maul had already proven to be a match for both Jedi.

    Defeating Grievous
    The biggest notch on his belt for the reasons above. This proved Obi-Wan as THE master of Soresu: though he may not always "win" by attacking aggressively, he's undefeatable defensively.

    Escaping the Jedi Purge
    Lucky, though it took skills to survive the fall and evade soldiers all the way to Coruscant.

    Defeating, but not killing, Anakin
    Controversial it may be, but this is what takes him from great warrior to wise Master in my opinion. Obi-Wan's impenetrable defense proved to be the perfect foil against Anakin's aggressive style. Maiming Anakin probably saved Luke from death in Cloud City years later (who knew what an intact Darth Vader could be capable of?). This also allowed Anakin to redeem himself/balance the Force.

    Coming back as a force-ghost
    Qui-Gon did it first and taught him, but he had to be strong in the Force to do it

    Mixed accomplishment:

    Had important role in raising Luke
    He may have been able to do better. What was he waiting for? That being said, he helped get the job done and things probably went that way for a good reason.

    Failures

    Could not identify Palpatine as Sith
    Sidious is basically a god of the Dark side and even fooled Yoda

    Couldn't defeat Dooku as Knight or Master
    Obi-Wan's style is not designed for offense. Dooku was regarded as one of the best duelists as a Jedi. Then, he received further training from Sidious, along with a lightsaber possessing a curved hilt.

    Could not keep Anakin from the dark side
    Obi-Wan bears a fair share of the blame for Anakin's fall to the Dark side. He also lies to Luke and thinks Vader is irredeemable. Anakin screwed up a lot, but it was Obi-Wan's job to keep him in line.

    I believe the argument for Obi-Wan as the greatest Jedi we know of is probably true BUT it depends how hard you want to knock him for letting Dooku escape and the disaster we call Anakin. In his prime he was virtually undefeatable, he was also wise and powerful in the Force and helped educate Luke. His strength is that he was good in ALL aspects of being a Jedi, with minimal failures.

  • Probably, but it depends

    What matters? Lightsaber skills, understanding of the Force, Force abilities? Depending on which we value most, our answer may change.

    George Lucas has named Luke as "greatest Jedi ever". Here's what the books add:

    1) Windu is the most dangerous Jedi with a lightsaber. He developed his own style, which somewhat channels the dark side
    2) Obi-Wan is the most durable Jedi with a lightsaber. This claim is made by Windu himself as a prediction of Obi-Wan's defeat of Grievous, whose computer-enhanced brain countered all attacks (including Windu)
    3) Yoda is most knowledgeable and in-tune with the Force

    Accomplishments:

    Defeating Darth Maul
    Essentially a skilled lucky strike. He was enraged by witnessing Qui-Gon's death, and Maul let his guard down. Maul had already proven to be a match for both Jedi.

    Defeating Grievous
    The biggest notch on his belt for the reasons above. This proved Obi-Wan as THE master of Soresu: though he may not always "win" by attacking aggressively, he's undefeatable defensively.

    Escaping the Jedi Purge
    Lucky, though it took skills to survive the fall and evade soldiers all the way to Coruscant.

    Defeating, but not killing, Anakin
    Controversial it may be, but this is what takes him from great warrior to wise Master in my opinion. Obi-Wan's impenetrable defense proved to be the perfect foil against Anakin's aggressive style. Maiming Anakin probably saved Luke from death in Cloud City years later (who knew what an intact Darth Vader could be capable of?). This also allowed Anakin to redeem himself/balance the Force.

    Coming back as a force-ghost
    Qui-Gon did it first and taught him, but he had to be strong in the Force to do it

    Mixed accomplishment:

    Had important role in raising Luke
    He may have been able to do better. What was he waiting for? That being said, he helped get the job done and things probably went that way for a good reason.

    Failures

    Could not identify Palpatine as Sith
    Sidious is basically a god of the Dark side and even fooled Yoda

    Couldn't defeat Dooku as Knight or Master
    Obi-Wan's style is not designed for offense. Dooku was regarded as one of the best duelists as a Jedi. Then, he received further training from Sidious, along with a lightsaber possessing a curved hilt.

    Could not keep Anakin from the dark side
    Obi-Wan bears a fair share of the blame for Anakin's fall to the Dark side. He also lies to Luke and thinks Vader is irredeemable. Anakin screwed up a lot, but it was Obi-Wan's job to keep him in line.

    I believe the argument for Obi-Wan as the greatest Jedi we know of is probably true BUT it depends how hard you want to knock him for letting Dooku escape and the disaster we call Anakin. In his prime he was virtually undefeatable, he was also wise and powerful in the Force and helped educate Luke. His strength is that he was good in ALL aspects of being a Jedi, with minimal failures.

  • The truest Jedi.

    Was he the absolute best? It is not for me to say as no Star Wars fan as seen EVERY Jedi ever. Besides, only a Sith deals in absolutes. I believe that Obi-Wan's defining quality—the one that sets him apart, and arguably above, other Jedi was his firm devotion to the Order and it's Code. Obi-Wan was the voice of reason. He was willing to fight for the right cause if it was necessary, but he never went out of his way to fight. He was firmly rooted in the Lightside of the Force and viewed most situations with an open mind. Though he sometimes made mistakes like any other human being of course, Obi-Wan was the embodiment of what the Jedi stood for: commitment, sacrifice, and wisdom. For those reasons, I believe that he was a great Jedi, perhaps even the greatest.

  • The best ever

    Obi wan is the best ever he trained anikan and luke plus he defeated darth maul and fought (and won) against anikan. So he is totally the best also jar jar binks is a sith and he will destroy everyone in star wars 8 so yeah tremble in fear before jar jar

  • Pretty much everything in the Star Wars universe is Obi-Wan's fault.

    He is partially responsible for Qui-Gon's death. I mean, the man JOGS casually to the battle with Darth Maul.

    The Death Star being built at all is his fault. He had a chance to kill Count Dooku, the man with the plans, but lost- to an extremely old and decrepit man.

    He treats Anakin like crap, patronizes him constantly, and only took him as a Padowan reluctantly. He could have stopped his fall to the Dark Side if he'd been any kind of mentor.

    He couldn't use his "awesome powers" to figure out Palpatine was the Sith Lord, despite being in the same room with him frequently. Admittedly this one is on the other Jedi Masters too.

    He is responsible for the end of the entire Jedi Order, since he could have just KILLED ANAKIN in his climactic battle.

    He lives on the same damn planet as Luke, yet never actually trains him. If Anakin was "too old" at nine to train, why the $#*^& didn't he train Luke? Yeah, it's not like he was the last hope of the universe or anything. Everything in IV, V, and VI that Luke goes through (having to leave the Alliance at a crap time to train with Yoda, leaving unprepared, losing his hand, etc) is totally due to his completely avoidable lack of training. Also, what the hell was wrong with training Leia? She have girl cooties or something, old Jedi's club?

    Despite being "one with the Force", totally leaves Luke to die on Hoth.

    Almost, through his systematic campaign of telling Luke how irredeemable and evil Vader is, kept Luke from "seeing the good in him", thus defeating the Emperor.

    Obi-Wan= d-bag

  • Obi-Wan cannot be the best of ALL TIME

    Master Yoda will hands down be the best jedi of all time. After all he did train almost the entire jedi order during his time, and since some one from the "yes" side pointed out, Not only did yoda survive his encounter against Count Dooku, a) Yoda trained Dooku, b) Yoda nearly whooped his ass if not to concentrate saving Obi-wan and anakin at that time. Also Yoda has defeated a whole of squad of droids without even drawing his lightsabers, and with his lightsaber he destroyed a freakin tank. Point taken?

  • Obi-Wan was certainly not the best.

    Sure, Obi-Wan was a pretty good Jedi. But he was defeated by both Count Dooku, whom Yoda defeated, and Darth Vader, whom Luke defeated. He did defeat Anakin and Maul, but Anakin was also defeated by Dooku. In terms of fights, Windu and Yoda come out as the top fighters, not Obi-Wan.

    So was his mentoring skill unmatched? I'm going to have to say no. Obi-Wan was a pretty awful mentor to Anakin, and apparently forgot the rebellious nature of Qui-Gon that got him into this situation in the first place. In fact, I would say his strict, rule-abiding nature and attitude were driving forces that brought Anakin to the dark side. If Qui-Gon had been the sole survivor of the fight against Maul, Anakin may have avoided becoming Vader.

    Now, as for other feats, he was quite great at surviving stuff. He's the sole survivor of the Maul fight, he managed to escape a brutl fight with Dooku without needing a prosthetic hand, and was one of the few to live through Order 66. His eventual death was a sacrifice for Luke and friends, which eventually enabled them to defeat the empire. He also mentored two of the greatest lightsaber wielders ever, and was mentored by a third.

    In the end, however, the cons deny him the spot of greatest Jedi ever. He forgot all of Qui-Gon's rebellious nature and was an bad mentor to Anakin, maybe even triggering his transformation into Darth Vader. And in terms of combat, he failed to Dooku whilst Anakin and Yoda succeeded. Yes, he's a good Jedi. But the best ever? I would campaign for Yoda there.

  • No he wasent

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  • While he was a great jedi I would not say he was the best

    I make the argument for revan, the original knight. While he was a sith for short while he did eventually return to force. His power to control the force was immense And his lightsaber combat skills were equally unparrallled. Revan was often described has the living force. He could create the force at will and created the forge.


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Ragnar says2013-05-28T16:04:46.813
I find it odd that so far both columns are arguing for who is better at killing people with a lazer sword.