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Was Timothy McVeigh aka the Oklahoma City Bomber (a self professed Christian) a real Christian?

  • He used violence and the razing of structures to propagate his message.

    While he may not be the best Christian, he certainly took a few notes from their playbook.

    Using violence to propagate the message has been a facet of Christian proselytization since the inception of the religion.

    McVeigh used what he had been taught, and put it in a modern perspective. He put Oklahoma under the ban, just like a good follower of Abrahamic traditions would.

  • He was a sick individual.

    McVeigh was raised Catholic. So, technically, he was a Christian. However, like most terrorists, he embraced twisted beliefs. Did that include his faith? No one really knows. His "problem" seemed to be with the government. Yet, his faith was not strong enough to prevent him from doing the bombing. The real question is: How did a guy selected for Green Beret training turn on his country?

  • He said he was.

    Timothy McVeigh was a Catholic according to himself, this was admitted on more than one occasion. Although, at the end (one day before his execution) he said he was not sure (i.E. I am agnostic) he was still an agnostic theist as he never identified as atheist. At least we should accept what he said he was. I think that is very important although I am sure many Christians will say he was not a real Christian.

  • It is a belief system, there are no qualifications.

    By using bible passages, and his belief in god makes him a christian of some sort. Even if he wouldn't be classified as a baptist, or a Lutheran he believed in Jesus Christ which is the foundation of all Christianity. He could have created a new church that taught his radical form of Christianity, so simply because he believed in Christianity makes him a christian. There is no central church of Christianity that decides who is and isn't a christian, so anyone who believes is. Also because he justified his actions using Christianity.

  • I'd say "likely not".

    There is nothing in Christianity that supports his behavior. There is nothing in his behavior that supports the notion of divine interests. There is no indication of making an actual choice but instead simply the affirmation of his childhood upbringing. To that end it is likely that "True Christianity" was likely not his particular bent; it may be true that he performed the rites and rituals, but that is not sufficient.

  • Are you serious?!?

    Thou shalt not kill. Do you really think he was a Christian? If so, you've got a few screws loose. People are judged by their actions. How many children died in that blast? His actions clearly demonstrate, beyond any reasonable doubt, that he was not a Christian. Anyone who thinks he was a Christian needs their heads examined. He was not a Christian. Case closed.

  • Are you serious?!?

    Thou shalt not kill. Do you really think he was a Christian? If so, you've got a few screws loose. People are judged by their actions. How many children died in that blast? His actions clearly demonstrate, beyond any reasonable doubt, that he was not a Christian. Anyone who thinks he was a Christian needs their heads examined. He was not a Christian. Case closed.

  • Timothy McVeigh wasn't a real Christian

    First of all, he could be considered a Right Wing Extremist, but I do not think that his attack was motivated by a fear of Christianity's decline. He was not trying to establish a Theocratic state. Rather, he had a hatred for the Left Wing Government. He might've used some Bible passage for justification of his actions, but that means very little, if anything. A real Christian wouldn't kill hundreds of civilians.

  • No he wasn't

    Just like members of isis and al queda are not true Muslims mcveigh was not a true Christian. Christianity is a religion of peace and does not condone the killing of innocent people. Same with all religions except satanism. It's sad a couple of bad people give a bad name to their whole group.


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LogicalLunatic says2014-09-11T20:51:04.837
After all these "yes" answers, I don't think atheists can seriously say that they have a high religious literacy on Christianity than Christians do.
iamanatheistandthisiswhy says2014-09-12T01:43:00.767
@LogicalLunatic: I think you would be surprised. The fact is that he did profess to be a Christian, that makes him a Christian and as such we should accept that. In the same way we should accept that the 9/11 hijackers were Muslim. If not and we use the no true Christian fallacy, then the hijackers were not Muslims.