If women who can't even hold a gun steadily is put in the army, then it'll compromise the lives of her team and herself in the process, and they would've died for nothing. We need able women who can adapt to their environments and be able to shoot a gun just as well as men can. By how the draft works, they should also be determined by physical activity. I understand that women are strong, too, but not all are up for the job. If women who can't fend for themselves are forced into the draft, then we are risking the lives of our country, and they would have died without fulfilling the promise of fighting to protect or country. We force women to do this, and we're violating their rights to make a choice.
It's just sad that we've even come to a ridiculous argument such as this. First of all, if men and women go into combat, who the heck do you think is going to stay at home and take care of the children, elderly, widows, orphans, etc.? Second of all, just because men and women are "equal" doesn't mean they are "the same." Duh - all you have to do is look at a man and a woman and see the difference. Women are, by nature, physically weaker than men - yes, there are exceptions. Don't be stupid by trying to use this as evidence. The only people who think women should be in combat are either masculine lesbians who need to prove they are tough, or weak men who don't want to assume their natural role of protector.
I will volunteer to fight any day of the week if my country need me to. But I will never want my girlfriend or wife to be drafted. Imagine you fighting in combat and having the thought of your girlfriend or wife or little sister fighting in another battlefield or maybe dead. If women want to join the military and fight then let them. Don't make them register for draft. I am not questioning a female's abilities.
Women in general are raised sheltered from the ugliness and babied when faced with adversity. I think women should be allowed to register for the draft, but if women are forced to then you would have women out there who are not fit for combat and more harm would come than good.
Women have always been required to stay at home, have kids, prepare dinner, and clean the house. If they are required to sign up for the draft and something sporadically happens, who will take care of the chores at home? Where will the kids go if they have them? I'm not saying women aren't strong enough, they definitely are, but they have other responsibilities.
If both men and women were inducted into the draft, then either the physical training for combat would be lowered for women or the majority of women would fail the male requirement test. While there are women who would do better then men, the majority would have to retake the test which takes time and money. If there was a draft, I believe that time would be an issue. If the women couldn't pass then they would probably end up filling the support roles, which forces more males into the frontline as there would probably be too many support units with women joining in. That's not equality. We would want to send our troops as fast as possible. If we lower the standards however, then our males wouldn't achieve their full potential and more dead bodies for us. Also, while married parents would probably be at the bottom of the draft, there still is a chance of them being drafted. I assume a conventional war, without nuclear weapons, would take a lot of people. Once the single men and women were drafted, the parents would be sent to fight. If the parents were sent to fight, who would watch the kids? The kids would grow up not knowing their parents. That is not equality for the children. Another issue is trying to create perfect soldiers. Perfect soldiers always obey without hesitance. If relationships were created in the front-lines, then a soldier's feeling might come in the way of his or her duties. If they don't obey, it could cost an entire unit their lives. There is also the topic of P.O.W. Who knows what would happen if women were sent to P.O.W. Camps? While I'd hate to bring sexual assault into a debate, it still is a factor. Personally, I think it's a privilege to not have to be in a draft and that women should enjoy it. If they really wanted to fight, then they could just sign up. But when the meat grinder gets going and we need soldiers, I'd rather have a man, a loyal brother, to watch my back instead of my girlfriend I met at basic training.
I couldnt imagine having to worry about my wife, daughter, or granddaughter being drafted into a war. Women are not as physically capable as men and would be in danger of being killed or maybe even raped by an enemy soldier. I understand that some women are physically capable but the majority are not. And I'm not trying to be sexist i just want to protect my family but their is no way in hell that i will sit by and let my little girl be forced into a war.
Although women have made great strides in equal treatment and better opportunities since the 1970s, the sad reality is that the U.S. government has still not passed an Equal Rights Amendment. Statistics still demonstrate that women typically earn only 75 cents to the dollar that men earn, which represents only a few cents increase in 4 decades of political action. Until Congress can recognize women as equals, they should not have to register for a military draft.
Quote from the official Supreme Court ruling on the subject: "the argument for registering women was based on considerations of equity, but Congress was entitled, in the exercise of its constitutional powers, to focus on the question of military need, rather than 'equity.'"
Women can make wonderful soldiers and even surpass some male soldiers, but most cannot. That being said, if a women possessed the strength and ability to coincide with the men, I would gladly have her at my back in combat.
Our sports are, and always have been segregated. Women and Men do not compete against each other in the Olympics and the men's records are invariably higher. The fact is men are naturally stronger physically. War, the most deadly sport of all, is no different and should not be trifled with. This isn't an experiment. It's life or death.
Think of the war-hardened veterans you know, maybe your grandpa. Think of the gruffness they have and the personal pain you see glimpses of at times that they try to hide. Think of they way their eyes tear up when they talk about the horrors they have witnessed. Now what if your grandmother was like this as well? Women are naturally nurturers. Men go to war to protect the lives and the liberty of their women and children. This is more than a tradition. This is the way things are for a reason.
Men and women simply have different responsibilities. Men cannot bear children. This wonderful, natural occurrence binds mothers to their children in a way that is different form their fathers. Women's bodies are designed to give life, and Men's bodies are designed to protect it.
I found out about Selective Service applying for college scholarships today. What a rude way to find out that only males between 18-25 are required to register for a draft. My sons would be disqualified from major scholarships if they don't register for the service. Female students who are also applying for the same scholarships are not required by law to register. Where is the justice in that? The law as it stands is government-sanctioned sexism to the core. We need to change the laws to require female scholarship candidates to register for the service as their male counterparts are required to do so. We are also conscientious objectors, but who knows how that would actually work if we were ever in a "national crisis."
If men can be expected to coerced into the armed forces then women should be held to the same standard. There are many roles that are needed during a conflict and women can fill many of them at least as well as men. Most of the military is combat support and will not expect to see front line combat ever. This is just plain fact. I am a combat veteran, I have seen it. The women hang just fine, if women want equality, I say let them have it. Men have been treated as expendable while the women stay at home, for the most part safe and sound, let them experience the horrors of war and maybe the equality fight will change a bit. Frankly most of what the feminists have fought to destroy as "male privilege" is nothing of the sort. It is dirty and hard and hell and nobody really wants it. They fought for it let the have it!
If women can join combat arms they must sign up for the draft. If women want equality it is only fair. This is such a no brainer. Equal rights advocates for women should embrace this notion easily. Daughters .....Prepare for selective service. When this is done I will be accepting of women on a fire team. Otherwise it is discrimination against men.
Females in combat keep saying that they are given the same missions, weapons, armor, and vehicles. Nothing is actually different from a male soldier's experience. Plus, people are saying that women are physically not able to serve, but the military would train the soldiers so they actually fight, the drafting process does implement a test to see if they are fit, and there are other jobs when you are drafted. People also wouldn't have to worry about an entire family serving because Congress doesn't allow family members to be drafted at the same time.
Do we send Mom and Dad to war? World War 2 was supported big time by the women's effort here at home. They can still be great help. We don't need to send them to the front to be just as a great influence to the war. We need to think about that.
Women should not have to register for the draft because who will then take care of the children if it does ever happen? The children would be left to survive on their own and take care of their siblings if they have any. Only men should have to register for draft because men are known to be stronger than women. Women should not have to register for the draft for these reasons.
Service in an army proves you are an equal stake holder. If women want equal rights, then they should have to make an equal sacrifice. Liberty costs blood and it does not care the color creed, ethnicity or sex. It is a concept familiar to us all and if we love it, then defend it - to the last believer, man woman or child.
The first sentence of the article states that not all women are up to the challenges of warfare. No, they're not. Neither are all men. But you do what you have to do.
I doubt the draft will be instituted after Vietnam, anyway. I'm a 23 yo professional, and have not registered (not having been required to, as a female), but I am about to.
Yes, the choice to enlist and serve in a front line position is not the same as being pushed into the draft. However, as the Pentagon noted, women can be seen fit to serve in the front line. Just because there is a draft doesn't mean that everyone pulled in will be fulfilling a front line position. They could also fill other needed roles in the ranks. Israel utilizes a draft like system, where women also serve, but in the capacity that the military see fit.
If we are to strive for full equality in the USA, then something as pure as serving your country in a time of need, should not be shared by a few, but all.
Woman want equality but it seems only when it benefits them. There are two sides to the coin. If women truly want equality then give it to them without special treatment in all areas of life. Let women pay for the date and open the door for men for a change. No more special treatment for being a female. NONE!
Not only are women not required to register for the draft, they are not permitted to! This is absurd. Equality means all are treated the same, and that includes being subject to being called for military service if needed. Many women have served with great courage and distinction in our military forces.
Not all equality is a good thing and picking and choosing what women determine as "equal" is wrong. Of course you don't hear an uproar over this though because it is a "bad equality" and women think that they aren't strong enough for this but are strong enough for management positions of our armed forces. Ridiculous, sign em up!
The reason (c. 1996) for not having women be draft-eligible was that women didn't serve in combat. Women now, by court ruling, may serve in combat. That reason isn't valid any more.
In any case, a modern military is more than just front-line troops. In the event of a draft, the majority of draftees would be in logistics, transport or other "support" roles to free up existing troops. So the arguments about not being tough enough or "up to" fighting in the field don't really hold water either.
There are protections in place to make sure that a potential draftee wouldn't be called if, say, that draftee was the sole guardian or support for a family. This would apply equally to men or women, and would take care of the argument about "taking care of children, elderly, orphans, etc". (Besides, it's kind of sexist to assume men can't, don't or won't do those things.)
I understand a woman not WANTING to be drafted. Who does? I sure don't. Luckily, our all-volunteer military is set up in such a way that the various branches aren't in favor of conscription. Long story short, they don't want draftees, they want motivated volunteers.
The military is a traditionally male institution in which violence is promoted. Men do not want women in the military because they fear they would try to prevent violence to the women rather than do their job. Therefore, women should not be required to sign up for the draft.
From an early age girls are told they are weak. They are told they are delicate. They get it pounded into their brains so much that a good portion of them don't even TRY to be emotionally or physically strong. If women were required to sign up for the draft females would no longer be cushioned and crooned over while males get to be as rowdy as they want. This is change. This is the future of gender equality.
It is unfair to mandate men to register for the Selective Service when women are now serving in almost all capacities in the Armed Forces. Women have made great strides in being accepted as equals in the military over the last twenty years, most notably finding positions on naval vessels at sea. While there are still a few bastions they have yet to penetrate, female contributions to the armed services are irreplaceable and integral to our operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Since it is obvious that women can serve just as well as men, it is reverse discrimination for males to be compelled to register for potential draft, when women are not. Equal rights mean equal responsibilities.
If you want to say women are equal for somethings but not others, that is being discriminatory. Women are equal to men so thus they should need to register for the draft. It is a take it or leave it. Women are equal and must be put in the draft, or women are unequal, and do not get equal rights like voting.
If all males including the ones who arent very strong and weak have to sign up why cant females? Women are strong too and even though all of them may not be as strong as men they can still do other military jobs like computer work. There should be specific standards everyone has to meet in order to register for draft
If women are allowed in the military now, and they are just as efficient as men, then it is incredibly unfair.
Women have made great strides in being accepted as equals in the military over the last twenty years, most notably finding positions on naval vessels at sea. While there are still a few bastions they have yet to penetrate, female contributions to the armed services are irreplaceable and integral to our operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Since it is obvious that women can serve just as well as men, it is reverse discrimination for males to be compelled to register for potential draft, when women are not. Equal rights mean equal responsibilities.
I firmly believe that women should be allowed to be drafted if men are. (Though I do not believe there should even be a draft in the first place, that is a different argument.) Assuming a draft is necessary, women should in this day and age should be recognized as strong enough both mentally and physically to cope with war. To say that women should not be drafted is to say that we are incapable of taking on the same level of responsibility as men, which is ridiculously backwards. And yes, if it were allowed, I would gladly sign up for the selective service if it meant women would gain the same level of respect as men.
Reverse sexism is no different than reverse racism. Let's burden one group more than another because the stand will be politically seen as okay and it buy the votes of those who benefit. Also, let's have the father of a child have absolutely NO say as to whether his child gets to live or die. Just more of the same sexism.
You are equal or you are not. I bust my hump to be acknowledged as an equal, rules that suggest we are less than that are destructive to those who strive for equality.
If you can fight to the death I can too. If you can be deployed so can I. Etc. If you are worried about the family dynamics, then congrats! You just started walking a mile in the shoes of men whose positions have been taken for granted.
If all men, and women, are created equal as addressed under the constitution then you have no right to pick and choose. I have seen many women who are much more muscular than some men, I even have a female friend who served and she agrees that women should have to sign up for the draft. Equality should mean EQUALITY no sexist treatment.
The civil rights activists Susan B Anthony stated, "For any state to make a sex qualification that must ever result in the disfranchisement of one entire half of the people, is to pass a bill of attainder, or, an ex post facto law, and is therefore in violation of the supreme law of the land." Wouldn't this be a violation?
Popular arguments regarding why women shouldn't register is biological reasoning. Who's going to look after the kids? However isn't this being stereotypical by assuming women need to be caregivers at home?
After 80 years of constant promotion and effort towards women's rights, why begin to make limitations?
If men have to sign up for the draft it is wrong to treat women better by not making them sign. Since both men and women can have combat roles then both should sign for the draft. It's not right for women to not have to sign. People talk of equal rights, so make women sign for the draft right along with men.
Why should a man be the one to give his life for the country? Because that's his job? No, it is Women and Men's job, women are just as good some even better than men in battle they just need the appropriate training as do men. This is one more of the little things that show men that they are stronger and can do something we can't. Those strong Patriotic women that want to help there country cant even register for the draft if they wanted to its despicable and is one more thing to separate the equality of men and women
The definition of equality is being equal in status, rights, and opportunities. Do the men have the opportunity to stay home with his kids, but instead being forced to fight a war they might not want to fight. Saying that women shouldn't be drafted is like saying men are stronger and smarter than women. I as a male would fight for my country if it is in danger. But not because of our government disliking communism.
Women want to be equal it is clear, but registering for the draft is a part of being equal in every aspect to say that women are weak and fragile is not true, I see no reason for men and women not to be equally required to register for the draft. Just because you registered does not mean you will be put into action there is all sorts of medical restrictions that would make being put into action a undue risk to everyone in the unit. There are other jobs that can be taken by these cases that do not require one to be medically fit such as desk jobs and intelligence gathering.
While I was in Iraq I observed female warriors completing their tasks as well as their male counterparts so I know they can be deployed into combat. There are some physically demanding roles that a large portion of females and a smaller portion of males would not be suited as they could not pass the screening process. With that being said if a female or male can pass the demanding screening process of some combat arms specialties then they should both be afforded the same opportunity to serve their country, even if it becomes mandatory.
As we insist that all ethnic groups and sexes are of the same value then these diverse groups should all equally be available to serve their country in times of crisis without regard to their particular "type" of American niche coming into consideration as there are are plenty of non-combatant slots that need to be filled in time of war.
Women want equal benefits but not equal responsibilities. Every single day i hear women remind me of how "There are women out there who are just as physically capable as men or more capable". They scream and call you a misogynist when you make logical generalizations like "Women are generally weaker than men" But when it comes to being drafter, women are happy to make those same generalizations. Then and only then will they not only accept the fact that they are weaker, but they will even remind you of this.
Then you have the women who use the excuse of "Who will stay home and take care of the kids?"... Since when did the modern woman wanna stay home and take care of kids? I thought women wanted to do every single thing men did. I thought women wanted to be CEO'S just like men? I thought staying home and raising children was degrading? Now they wanna stay home and raise kids to avoid being drafted? It's insulting and whats worse? Men are letting this happen. GIVE WOMEN WHAT THEY WANT. GIVE THEM EQUALITY. Women shouldn't only be allowed to do the "good" jobs that men have like being a CEO and stuff like that, they should also be coal miners, garbage collectors, and stuff like that. I don't see feminists trying to get women drafted.... I don't see them complaining about how it's not fair that only men get drafted. I don't see that. Women should be drafted.
If women want to serve, have at it! That's totally acceptable. They should be given the opportunity to defend their country as well. But if they want to server, they should also be forced to sign up for the draft. If males have to sign up, possibly putting their lives on the line, women should be required to as well.
None of my female peers were pregnant before, during and shortly after the time period i had to serve, so i see no reason why they could not have served in some capacity, as well. If not in the military, then at least civil service. Even in the army there are more functions that both men and woman can do than functions that only men can do.
Men have died for women and the rest of the "tribe" for a million years. Women have only now left the cave and have joined our workforce, education, economic and political system - they can die for the tribe like everyone else. You don't get to pick and choose what parts of equality you want. "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
It's not fair at all to have males have to register for this and then let women just get by. If America is a place for equality then they shouldn't make one sex have to do something while letting the other sex have special privileges. If I have to sign up for combat, then women should too.
I just don't agree with it. I don't think its fair that men have to die to live in this country but women get to live here and they aren't required to register and they don't have any "civic duties" but yet the men do? What makes the women so special? They live on this soil, they breathe the same air, they draw the same unemployment but they dont have to register with selective services to get that and the men do, I feel that it is sexist. Other countries don't force men to register. It almost makes me want to move to Canada!
There is no such thing as equality.
Basically, if you are male you get to die for a country you don't really want to die for and never live the life you wanted to and if you are female you get to live without a death from war. Females are as strong as males and it has been proved from a female able to withstand pregnancy. They just need the tactics. Trust me, if equality existed, Gay marriage would've been legal, women would get fair pay in jobs and we'd be off all these biased and bigoted topics.
There'll be feminists who'll be whining about men having the "privilege" of being able to serve their nation. So, if we want to fight for the country, then we should, but then it shouldn't be an option that women may or may not want to go to war, 'cause that'll be unfair with men. So, if women want equal rights, then they shouldn't be given an option. They'll HAVE to get drafted. And there's no excuse of women being physically weaker, there's a gym everywhere - just go and workout!!
Registering for selective service is not needed in an ALL voluntary military, and wouldn't be actually necessary if a true need were to arise (SS# and all). It would seem that a nation would want people in the military to ONLY want to be truly voluntary (not, this is the ONLY "opportunity" I have due to social-economic status - or lack there of), as they would most willing to do that job (something that was learned in Vietnam). For some it is a way of life, for others a trade off for higher education, learn a trade. Etc. I think it should be a requirement for anyone in the military that wants to extend their contract ( beyond 4 years) should have to take college courses so when they separate from the military, they have more opportunities, and would be able to finish their education so they have a degree and experience. I also believe that many contractors that do military jobs should be replaced with uniformed military to save tax dollars. Wearing a uniform does not (and it does not need to) mean, "hunter - killer", and those support jobs need to be uniformed military.
Women always complain about they are be oppressed but when men do most of the work and have to serve our country and they don't it's basically one sided for women , but they complain all the time about how they are so weak and men are terrible for being the master race of Earth.
Women are now being allowed into combat roles into the military due to supposed "equal rights". Women have the same, if not more, opportunity in the military and in jobs than men do. There is no excuse for a woman to be "physically weaker" especially when nowadays there's a gym on darn near every street corner. You don't get to pick and choose which rights you get. You want the right to vote, fine, it's your responsibility to sign up for the draft as well.
Equal opportunities means equal opportunities. There was so much support from women to pass the law allowing them to be able to serve in direct combat roles in the military; It's only fair that they also have to register for the draft. If you're pulling the "physically incapable" argument now that the threat of having to sign up for the draft, you should have thought of that while the argument of "whether or not women should serve in direct combat roles" was taking place. Personally, I don't think women should be in direct combat roles, but now that the law has passed it's only fair they have the same equality as men in the draft.
Equal rights, equal fights. If women keep saying they are just as capable as men then this is obviously sexist If everyone is created equal then everyone should be treated that way. The lack of the draft pertaining to women is an example of sexism but however doesn't raise much attention and should be changed.
It's interesting that people only want equality in the ways that benefit themselves. Perhaps it's time to focus more on order and justice than "equality." I favor a completely volunteer military... No one ever is drafted. OR... A military conscription for ALL citizens (male and female) at the age of 18 where a two year minimum commitment is required and can be deferred for educational or health reasons only.
For 300 years in America, men exchanged military service for the rights to vote. Women however, have received this right scottfree. If we truly want equality, then we must either sign them up or abolish the draft all together. Isn't this what you've always wanted ladies? No? I see you running around netting high-end military job.
Members of congress declare war and people vote for members of congress. Logically all voters, men and women, should have to register for selective service because they are taking part in a choice which affects the possible declaration of war, which can lead to a draft. Voting without having to also register for the draft means taking part in a decision making process that can only risk the lives of others. This should have been taken into consideration with the implementation of the 19th amendment. If it is illegal to discriminate against voters based on sex, then it should also be illegal to discriminate against who should be required to defend that vote based on sex.