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Why is it always a toss up between evolution and creation? Truth is we dont know how we got here. Agreed?

Asked by: steffon66
  • Toss this, Evolution=Creation

    Whatever science claims to know is always in flux as newer theories are tossed around continuously; we still can't even prove where here is. Science cannot even fully explain why two particles can be at two different places at the same time. So how can anyone KNOW what or where here is? We do know that humans think they perceive what is real or not and If there was a creator, which I fully believe, what mode of creation other than evolution could be more elegant or "creative" than a mode of creation which feeds off of and sustains itself. Evolution=creation

  • Though i think its likely that we evolved i dont know.

    And neither do you. To think you know what happened billions of years ago while you believe a perfect god (the most complex thing in existence) wouldnt need a creator but the flawed universe did need a creator and couldnt have come from nothing (have always existed or been the result of nothing). People think laws of nature have to be written but unlike the laws of men they are just facts about how things do infact behave and wouldnt have to be written, as what determines what something will do is what its made out of along with many other factors, none suggesting that the laws were created by intelligent design. Bottom line is something came from nothing along time ago and we exist in a tiny amount of time in a tiny amount of space and you have to wander why god waited who knows how many years to create life on a planet when he could have created life so much sooner as the odds of this being the only planet ever that could support life are slim to none. If god is all powerful this means he could have made a planet in the goldy locks zone much sooner. He did a whole lot for a tiny pay out given the fact that gods all knowing and and we arent even close and dont even compare. We are not significant as we dont know right from wrong so our actions arent noteworthy as we dont deserve punishment or reward for them as without knowing right from wrong we will inevitably be wrong a lot given all the things we could consider to be right or wrong. I have no choice but to believe we came from evolution as the bones and stuff they have found show the change. There is much more evidence for evolution than there is for free will. But i still do not know and dont claim to know how the universe got here and even the character of this being because that would be ridiculous. But i guess this whole perfect god situation is ridiculous. It comforts a lot of people but at what cost? But as far as im concerned there may be a god or the universe and everything we do might be random. I dont know. And clearly neither do you

  • God or evolution?

    The origin of the cosmos, Earth and the human race is the ultimate million-dollar question. Did we come into existence by chance, or were we created by a supreme being? Your guess is as good as mine. In principle, the answer may be discovered, but for the time being, it's up in the air.

  • Only people who don't understand the Bible and science think like that.

    I could have voted on the other side. Because the Bible does not cancel out science neither does science cancel out the Bible. People don't even know what the Bible is about.

    Tell me, if you are a law student wanting to know all about laws. Will you go out and start reading books about how to cook? No you will read books about laws.
    People don't know that the Bible is not a science book. It was never written like you would write a science book.
    If you read a romantic book, and you try using science to do an experiment to base on theory in that Book you will end up believing romance does not exist.
    The Bible is a message to us. Instruction on how we should live, and follow Jehovah our God. But even though the Bible is just a message what is even more phenomenal about it is that. It touches science in a way that is still accurate today. So scientist just take this book as a science book when it is not. Simply because when the Bible hit a science topic, it so accurate you will have to believe the writer's was a scientist as well. For example. The Bible talks about the human Embryo. How would they know that a baby start as an Embryo inside the mother when they had no technology that we have today? The Bible as talked about Photosynthesis, it describe the complete cycle of are planet regeneration system. The Bible as talked about the shape of our very planet. When science was nowhere near existence. And yet what it said about our planet took us thousands of years before developing the technology that will prove oh the Bible was right.

    Science is very new, the Bible does not disagree with science. The only problem is us. Is you ready know science and their idea of how we came into existence, some of the thing they have discover cannot be truth. Even they the sciences will tell you these are OUR SPECULATION. They never say this is that and I am 100% sure of it. Their claims are speculation, what they think. Not what there is, when it comes to our existence. All their theory are speculation. They even said something is respond for theory of the big bang, many knows that theory. But the Bible never told us how God Cause the universe to start. The Bible told us that In the Begging God created the heaven and the earth. That's all, God didn't wanted to get into how he did it. Because that was not his focus of the Bible.

  • Even though the evidence is for evolution.......Yeah.

    Truth is, even though we have a great deal of evidence for evolution (and none for Christianity) we still don't know how we got here. All we can make are pretty solid guesses, but they can be turned upside down. We could have been made to throw our own feces at each other by a glowing Norwegian-speaking Wookie! So, in truth, we have strong guesses, but they may not be true.

  • Sometimes Assumptions aren't the Answer

    Neither the bible nor science have enough evidence to prove their case.
    If you wanted to compare something to something else, Example ("Is this car better on gas than this one?") you would want to ask an expert on those cars who has proved or has obtained proof from someone else that one car used less gas, driving x miles than the other.

    Science: Has not obtained absolute proof of how we were created, and cant because scientific theory is always up for question ("that includes gravity")

    Religious Individual or group: Has blind faith based on a book they have read, and experiences they have been through, no matter how convincing it is still not proof.

  • Sometimes Assumptions aren't the Answer

    Neither the bible nor science have enough evidence to prove their case.
    If you wanted to compare something to something else, Example ("Is this car better on gas than this one?") you would want to ask an expert on those cars who has proved or has obtained proof from someone else that one car used less gas, driving x miles than the other.

    Science: Has not obtained absolute proof of how we were created, and cant because scientific theory is always up for question ("that includes gravity")

    Religious Individual or group: Has blind faith based on a book they have read, and experiences they have been through, no matter how convincing it is still not proof.

  • Sometimes Assumptions aren't the Answer

    Neither the bible nor science have enough evidence to prove their case.
    If you wanted to compare something to something else, Example ("Is this car better on gas than this one?") you would want to ask an expert on those cars who has proved or has obtained proof from someone else that one car used less gas, driving x miles than the other.

    Science: Has not obtained absolute proof of how we were created, and cant because scientific theory is always up for question ("that includes gravity")

    Religious Individual or group: Has blind faith based on a book they have read, and experiences they have been through, no matter how convincing it is still not proof.

  • Sometimes Assumptions aren't the Answer.

    Neither the bible nor science have enough evidence to prove their case.
    If you wanted to compare something to something else, Example ("Is this car better on gas than this one?") you would want to ask an expert on those cars who has proved or has obtained proof from someone else that one car used less gas, driving x miles than the other.

    Science: Has not obtained absolute proof of how we were created, and cant because scientific theory is always up for question ("that includes gravity")

    Religious Individual or group: Has blind faith based on a book they have read, and experiences they have been through, no matter how convincing it is still not proof.

  • No, but we have pretty good idea as to what it is. Although I think by now creationism is outdated.

    The science doesn't support creationism, and I say that as a christian- If there's more evidence for some other theory than evolution, that's the one I'll believe- as it is, evolution is not one we're certain of (although we're pretty much certain creationism did not happen- how on earth would there have been room for the 99.9% of species which are now extinct? How does creationism battle the massive evidence for evolution? Most Christians nowadays don't believe it.)

    So of course the people who understand this feel the need to explain it to their less enlightened peers. We don't know for certain, but there's an awful lot of evidence for evolution- we should at least put faith in the most probable one.

  • Evolution is True

    As a species, we have always looked for a reason and a method in which we ended up on this planet. It is very understandable and logical that, as time progressed, we have created stories as to our origins. Science, however, has revealed so much to us through trial and error about our natural surroundings as well as the origins of, not only our species, but other species as well. We cannot just abandon these findings because it goes against the stories we created. With that said, I am not arguing about the existing of a god. What I can tell you is that the scientific evidence points to a Big Bang and an evolution of life on earth. I admit, we do not know what caused the big bang. The big bang could be an explosion caused by a failed science experiment of a higher being. Just the same, we cannot know whether the big bang was the fart of a unicorn and that planets are all bacterial particles floating around. So as to the question of we don't know how we got here, we do know enough up to the point of the big bang but not further so for people to go against science and say evolution is false is a grotesque retarding of knowledge.

  • We may not know for sure, but some things are obvious.

    Life exists, where once it didn't. It's illogical to believe that inanimate matter just spontaneously came to life. Evolution is real. As is the creation of life. Your beliefs are determined by what the word Creator means to you. If you believe God is your creator, or solar radiation and volcanic vents, you are equally dillusional. All a creator requires are knowledge of genetics and the ability to travel through time/space. Not altogether impossible. Or at the least, just as possible as any other option, but far more logical. In my opinion, a creator is the inevitable conclusion of evolution. Be it organic, or mechanical. That is irrelevant. Life requires a creator to exist. And a creator requires life to evolve. As with everything in nature, its cyclic. We, are part of the life cycle of a creator.

  • Unfortunately, ignorance doesn't get us anywhere.

    Without a revelation (the Bible) we cannot truly know much about our Creator, only that a supernatural entity created our universe. We can know this to be factual by applying to the issue a fundamental scientific principle: the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This law states, in general terms, that order cannot, by chance, come out of chaos. By using logic, we can use this to determine that a supernatural entity created our universe, because order (complex structures) cannot come into being without the work of a deliberate force. So, we do know, generally speaking, where we came from, and ignoring the facts is just confusing the issue.


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