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  • Guilty as Anything

    Oh, please. Common sense is the biggest threat to poor Blade Runner, here. Obviously the first thing an intruder would do is lock themselves in the bathroom. He woke up to sounds in the bathroom, and his girlfriend wasn't beside him in bed. So naturally the only thing to do is fire through the door, right? RIDICULOUS! It's so stupid it's funny. As far as common sense goes, Pistorius doesn't have a leg to stand on.

  • Yes he's guilty!

    Apparently they both woke up and she said"Can't you sleep my babba?"Then after bringing fans in straight after he heard noise from bathroom of window opening,then how the hell could he have not noticed Reeva going into the toilet???She could not have gone there as he said, it doesn't fit at all??Also notice how he distances himself in defence by saying "It isn't true"etc if I was innocent of a murder I'd be more passionate and yelling "No I didn't" his answers are too constructed,no feeling to his defences at all. But Nel is right none of this makes sense,also Reeva's sister sister describes her as outspoken and feisty she would not have remained silent!To be honest who would not scream out not to shoot if they were in the toilet with him being hysterical and waving a gun around!!He may not have intended on killing her but lets face it you don't play with guns as if they're toys!

  • He's clearly guilty

    Anyone fearing an intruder would be concerned for the safety of their loved one. He'd have been concentrating on her safety and would have known where she was.

    His testimony lacks credibility, his lies over gun conditions surrounding his ND in restaurant show he is not prepared to tell the truth, he carries his own gun one up, makes out that having a gun handed to him one up was the cause of the ND.

    He is trying to blame anyone except himself. He deserves a life sentence.

  • He had motive to kill her

    The thought that the beautiful Reeva might leave him, the legless man, sent him into a jealous rage. It was Valentine's Day, they probably had an argument (heard by neighbors) and she sought privacy in the toilet so she could call someone on her mobile phone. He snapped and shot her in cold blood. His crocodile tears in court are fake. He's just sorry for himself and the idea of spending a long time in prison.

  • Guilty as hell

    Who would lock a toilet door in the middle of the night? He said he was screaming and shouting to Reeva so there is no way she wouldn't respond to let him know she was there. Nel has it spot on. OP's whole testimony just doesn't make sense. The episodes in the restaurant and on the motorway have exposed him too. He must think we are all idiots or else he has some sort of mental condition.

  • "Accidentally" fired the gun 4 times

    It is impossible to believe OP shot the gun through the bathroom cubicle 4 times "accidentally". A gun fired once maybe, but three more times??! Nor is it believable that he shouted to Reeva to call the police, yelled at the make-believe intruders, and throughout it all Reeva never made a sound. Lastly, there is no way Reeva didn't make a sound after she was hit 3 times with the bullets. More than 1 neighbor testified to hearing Reeva scream before the shots.

  • Guilty as Sin

    He kept repeating in court that he wanted to come between the intruder and Reeva and that his sole aim was to protect her from the intruder yet he didn't think to check up on her or call to her quietly as he was walking down the hallway he had plenty of time. As he was approaching the cubicle she would have heard his voice getting closer and she would have called out to him.
    If she had her phone she had time to call the police as he said he was shouting as he was walking down the hall. She could have sent a text if she didn't want to speak. The poor woman must have been scared to death Man. She took her phone and locked the door.

  • Why 4 Shots

    Oscar fired 1 shot - she screamed .. He paused a moment (split second) shocked that he actaully did shoot her (He intended to in his rage, but was not sure he would actually do that) then decide it's best for him to finish this and claim he thought it's a intruder, and he shot until he her screaming stopped, bam (screams from reeva) bam (screams continue) bam (screams stop)! He was ready for a 5th shot standing there and waiting for any noise a couple of seconds, then put the gun down...

  • No- one would shoot

    1. You would only would shoot if you had a reason to fear for your life. He firstly had no reason to fear for his life. But if he did fear for his life, he would not risk shooting through a door as he may more easily miss and aggravate whoever was in there.

    2. No- one grabs his gun and shoots without first checking on the status of the person next to him and making sure she is safe. There is no way he could not have realized she was not there in such a small apartment.

    3. His evidence is not believable and full of inconsistencies and holes. For example claiming the fans were in places it serms they could not be based on the length of chord and capacity of the multi plug.

    4. This is not really supporting argument, but at times in court when he is acting most disorientated and emotional, he still has the composure never to forget to say "my lady" which is not that easy to consistently do when being questioned by a man under apparent stress. His sad monotone voice reminds me of a child when caught eating candy and denying it. As a parent of little kids I can recognize a voice lying and trying to act honest. All fake.

    He is guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

  • Rot in Hell Oscar, you liar!

    You are awaken at night by a sound in your bathroom. What is the first thing you do?
    99% of people will turn to see if their partner is in bed next to them first. The other 1% will just assume that it is their partner in the bathroom - Especially if the noise is coming from the toilet.
    This scenario happens to everyone around the world, and is quite common.

    So how can someone like Oscar, who appears to be an intelligent man, claim that he did not even check to see where his gf is, and proceed to go into the bathroom and open fire into a toilet door without asking who it is that is in there? It just doesn't make sense and his story of events is a plain insult to our intelligence!

  • Even a Gold medalist athlete can trip up on the way to the finish line

    Forensics tell the detail that the liar forgets. Small things become noticeable and stack up over the trial plug for the fan did not fit the wall , jeans moved , balcony doors were meant to be closed by Reeva as Oscar said he fell asleep first. This may seem like a lot of small chunks of evidence now but many of these add up to more of a scene of the crime. Its fundamental questions and eventually with more Gerry Nel will have time in the witness box to draw out the many little things. In all probability Oscar will not say "I accept responsibility" but all along he is being drawn to perhaps mistakenly blurt this out... He is constantly having to speak about the night he does not want us to know the truth about. Wisdom in process and the legal strength of all the teams who are doing their job well are up against an athlete who has won gold so don't forget he is going to be streaks ahead in the running BUT he can always trip up... And this is what may happen when he has no more tears we will see anger.

  • Pistorius is definitely guilty

    It will be a tradgedy if this man who tells one lie after another is not found guilty

    He is guikty beyond reasonable doubt..

    Why didnt he grab hold of Reeva 's hand and exit via the bedroom whee door out if the house if he thought burglars were in the house, why did Pistorius not hear Reeva scream when he shot through the door?

  • No question of guilt

    Of course he's guilty. Even if he truly thought burglars were hiding in his toilet, to shoot at them through a closed door when they could have been of no possible threat is criminal. To claim that he is yelling suddenly at his girlfriend to call the police when she is 10 feet in front and seemingly deaf and mute is ridiculous. To claim he is concerned about her safety and he doesn't even notice where she is can be nothing else than a shameless lie. And every time he is beyond called to account for these lies, he retreats to the usual "I don't know." And all along he retches and breaks down as the slain woman's mother sits stoic and dignified.

  • How can you mistake your own wife for an intruder

    She was injured already, and her screams would have been enough for him to know and to cease his aggressive action - how he could not hear such high-pitched screams of a terrorised woman fearing imminent death is beyond me. Those are the kind of screams that a human is only capable of under these circumstances or similar... He killed her in a cold-blooded rage and should be judged accordingly.

  • Guilty, guilty, guilty!

    Screams before the gunfire. The man is violent and volatile. Reeva, was afraid of him. Pistorius has consistently lied and changed his story; there are too many inconsistencies. Pistorius is arrogant, selfish, in-denial and as was evident today, incapable of taking any responsibility. Pistorius is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. He have taken away the life of a vibrant, compassionate, loving, intelligent and wonderful woman!

  • Guilty of that no doubt.

    He was in full control, He was outside the door, he knew they couldnt get out, and he had his gun, He should of just told them he had a gun and then called security, But he knew Reeva was the only person in there and he blew her away, Bit to late for the tears now Oscar.

  • So obviously guilty.

    He has now said he heard a noise coming from the bathroom, and if Reeva had spoken he would not have shot. So, there you go - in Pistorius's view, it was her own fault. According to his earlier testimony, he didn't give her the opportunity to speak - he just fired the gun. We will probably never know the details of what happened that night, but what sort of person would shoot FOUR times through a closed door before checking where their partner was? The man is a sociopath - no genuine remorse, just a performance of remorse in court. A overblown bad performance, at that.

    Posted by: EdP
  • Guilty as Hell... Will also rot in Hell!!

    He's a persistent liar. The way he answers the questions proves hes a liar. He should take a lie detector test.. In fact he should be hooked up to during his questioning. He has no remorse and he has no feelings for Reeva's Family. Its all about Oscar... The murderer! Spit!

  • Certainly a Guilty Man.

    Pistorous knew what he was doing. He clearly has a bad temper and with the evidence and witnesses stacked highly against him he should and rightly so be sentenced. He is a clever man who has been given top advice on how to Testify playing the 'sympathy card'. Nel should get tp the bottom of his lies, over emotion and justice will be done.

  • The s.African law is in his favour

    It will be culpable murder/homicide - I feel he's guilty, the facts are there e.g. why he didn't call out to reeva when he walked to the b/room or as he approached the door? Surely you wake your partner up if you think someone's in the house!? And you check before loading shots thro the door. Point is the absence of a jury, as a judge she is bound more than a jury to act within the law. It is on the prosecution to present uncertain doubt that it was murder, if there is any doubt at all the judge has to offer a lesser sentence.

  • If there is justice he will be found guilty

    Why would anyone fire bullets through a door without knowing exactly whose in there regardless if your afraid or not. Especially when you know your lover is in the house. At 3 in the morning you would know exactly where you partner was .Even if he thought she had been abducted you would never fire through a door just in case.Hes a liar and a murderer set off by his acknowledged terrible temper Thankfully they didn't have children or he may have shot them all.

  • Yes he murdered her

    Why would anyone just shoot through a bathroom door not knowing who is behind it,would you not just warn the person then call police ,what would you be afraid of you have the gun,wouldn't a criminal be looking for something more valuable then what is in a bathroom,wouldn't, you wonder where your girlfriend was,I hope that no one falls for the lies that he is telling,some athlete more of a coward

  • Yes he murdered her

    Why would anyone just shoot through a bathroom door not knowing who is behind it,would you not just warn the person then call police ,what would you be afraid of you have the gun,wouldn't a criminal be looking for something more valuable then what is in a bathroom,wouldn't, you wonder where your girlfriend was,I hope that no one falls for the lies that he is telling,some athlete more of a coward

  • Agree with all arguments against him

    Yes Oscar Pistorius will be found guilty of murder. 3 Neighbours heard a woman screaming after the first shot. Who wouldn't recognize your own girlfriends voice? It's not convincing that he didn't know it was her. It's clear he knew she hid there, because they had an argument. Really curious to find out what really happened before.

  • Yes he will be found guilty

    He was not in danger when he fired those shots into the locked bathroom door he was in a rage. He had just had a horrible argument and fight with his girlfriend. The screams heard by neighbors were followed right away by the shots so he knew exactly where she was i the house. If screams were heard half an hour before when everything had calmed down that would be another matter.

  • Will Oscar Pistorius be found guilty?

    Guilty as charged. The man loves guns. Guns are designed to either maim or kill. He takes it a step further by using "expansive" bullets, and only withdraws an order for a set of seriously nasty weapons following his shooting escapade against his unfortunate and terrified girlfriend. Not kind, and not humane.

  • He will rightfully be found of murder

    I just don't believe that you would shoot a gun through a door because you heard noises inside.Especially if somebody else lives @ your house. Even if he was found not guilty I'd personally like to see him get an equal sentence as he would for premeditated murder as it is complete recklessness and the outcome is stillthe same For reena and her family

  • Guilty but remorseful

    He should have told the truth and gone for tempory insanity through crimes of passion!!! I believe he has total remorse! But no truer words have been spoken if you do the crime you have to do the time!!! Very sad for both families! People with short fuses need help let this be a lesson get help today!!

  • I don't buy his story

    He was caught in a moment of complete rage and lost it. This is a far more likely scenario . I'm certain he is feeling regret. More so because this is gonna screw up his own life, not because Reeva is dead. The bathroom door was locked. Who the hell locks the bathroom door when the only other person in the house is your lover?, and especially if you live in a gated community. Locks are for keeping people from accidentally opening the door on you. Or for keeping yourself away from a raging maniac with a gun.

  • Oscar Pistorius will be found guilty of murder

    Some federal laws are needed for gun dealers. All evidence and witnesses to the murder point to Oscar Pistorius as the murder. If you think about it, he was the only present member in the house and knew his girlfriend very well. How can someone shoot without even looking. One clearly had a motive to get rid of someone, and there is ample of evidence to suggest that.

  • Yes, Pistorius will be found guilty.

    I think that Oscar Pistorius will be found guilty of murder. I do not see how Oscar is not found guily. There is just way too much evidence to suggest so. I also do not believe his story that he thought his girlfriend was a robber who was in the bathroom.

  • Oscar Pistorius will be found guilty of murder

    Yes Oscar Pistorius will be found guilty of murder because he fiarly obviously shot his girlfriend. The facts of the case seem clear and it would be unusual for someone who all but got caught red handed to get away with shooting someone simply because of their status as a celebrity. At no point has he really denied the accusations other than to try to muddy the waters about why she died but overall it was his house, his gun and he shot her. There isn't much in the way of defense that is going to change the facts.

  • Yes, I do

    I have yet to look at all of the evidence in this case objectively, and maybe I will change my mind once I do, but I do think that Oscar Pistorius will be found guilty of murder. Something about him tells me that he committed this murder, but I could be wrong.

  • Guilty of murder

    Nel is right. Oscar tailored his evidence as he went along. He added pertinent details to help his case such as telling reeva in a whisper or low tone that he thought there was an intruder but did not remember to mention this in his bail application. He even admits during his cross examination that he has been reconstructing as he goes along. He won't even take responsibility for pulling the trigger in the restaurant or on the night of the crime. Who does he think he is kidding, these are obvious lies. POOR REEVA. She tried to escape him by locking herself in the bathroom. She took her cellphone but didn't even have time to call or text for help.

  • Guilty of murder

    Nel is right. Oscar tailored his evidence as he went along. He added pertinent details to help his case such as telling reeva in a whisper or low tone that he thought there was an intruder but did not remember to mention this in his bail application. He even admits during his cross examination that he has been reconstructing as he goes along. He won't even take responsibility for pulling the trigger in the restaurant or on the night of the crime. Who does he think he is kidding, these are obvious lies. POOR REEVA. She tried to escape him by locking herself in the bathroom. She took her cellphone but didn't even have time to call or text for help.

  • He is absolutely guilty

    There is no way that anybody able bodied or not would not know that their partner was not in the bed with them when they got up to close the curtains or whatever he was supposed to be doing. He screamed out when he thought someone was there, she would have responded, it is so ridiculous. The person that I feel most sorrow for is Reeva who lost her beautiful life and secondly her mother who has to live without her knowing that he will probably walk free and knowing that there is no way on earth that this was an accident.

  • Guilty as all hell

    She locked the door and went in there with cellphones...They had been arguing..He is known for his out of control violent temper and was afraid she was leaving him as she said she was afraid of him...Nothing left to say...Lock him up...He can think about it for the rest of his life and find a way to do something more noble than running around a track.

  • Guilty as all hell

    She locked the door and went in there with cellphones...They had been arguing..He is known for his out of control violent temper and was afraid she was leaving him as she said she was afraid of him...Nothing left to say...Lock him up...He can think about it for the rest of his life and find a way to do something more noble than running around a track.

  • Only a sycophant and fool would believe in pistorius

    It is sad that anyone would believe in this obvious liar. If you hear a noise in the bathroom the first thought would be your girlfriend went to the bathroom and you would ascertain her whereabouts before concluding it was an intruder. He lied repeatedly in the trial. He stated in his bail he presumed the intruder was in the toilet because the door was locked. That was weak, so he changed to state he heard the door slam or kicked shut. Five minutes later he forgot he told nel he thought someone might have kicked the door. "i made a mistake, me lady!"

  • Even reputable astrologers and clairvoyants say guilty ...

    Check out the myriad of astrologers posting looking at his charts.. A crime of passion...The exact same aspects astro logically were in play that night as were seen on the day of deep traumas he experienced as a child on the day his father and mother s marriage disintegrated .. Reeva was leaving him... He exploded with the long suppressed rage of abandonment that had been buried for years...

  • Guilty as hell...

    He should spend the rest of his life in jail to think about his actions and his lies...He should admit the truth, that he is misogynistic rage-aholic
    and needs therapy to understand his mental confusion about control issues that lead to his being a murderer. I hope common sense rules the day so that he is convicted as charged.

  • Guilty as hell...

    He should spend the rest of his life in jail to think about his actions and his lies...He should admit the truth, that he is misogynistic rage-aholic
    and needs therapy to understand his mental confusion about control issues that lead to his being a murderer. I hope common sense rules the day so that he is convicted as charged.

  • Unforgivable crime - guilty

    His version of events is a tissue of lies to produce a scenario that would exonerate him. It is just not believable that she made no noise. He knew who was in the cubical, and so what he did - firing four dum dum bullets into her, ripping her apart - was a cowardly and despicable crime. He might very well look sorry now, but most likely because of the situation he has found himself in. That anyone would think that he deserves to get off of this is staggering and beyond belief. That woman must have screamed in terror as she was blown to pieces by a despicable coward. In the end, the crime was commited by him, and him alone, and nobody can deny that. It could have been a kid running away from a gang of bullies, or somebody who wanted his autograph. But it wasn't, it was his girlfriend, who quite obviously screamed in terror.

  • Unforgivable crime - guilty.

    His version of events is built up to fit a scenario that would exonerate him. What he did, to fire four dum dum bullets into a girl at close range, ripping her apart, is despicable beyond words. No matter how sorry he looks now, (most probably over the situation he has found himself in) the crime took place, and the girl has been murdered, and in such a terrifying way.

  • Guilty, guilty, guilty

    There are so many lies and inconsistencies. Reeva made no sound? He did not check on her? He told security calmly all was well? He changed his shooting position? Why only four shots (the last one lethal) she was afraid of him. Instead of calling police he crawls into a narrow hallway....He is guilty...

  • Poor rich boy used to getting what he wanted.

    I hope he doesnt get it this time. Not guilty would be a travesty. Convict him of murder, of manslaughter, something that gives him 10 plus years - hopefully life - behind bars. Please...Only a fan of his could possibly believe that he doesnt deserve some time in the slammer.

  • The stomach contents????

    Reeva had 200mls undigested in her stomach!! She must have eaten around two hours before her death. Even allowing say another two hours earlier that would mean she ate at around 11pm. Just on this Pistorius is a liar!! I've been watching and re-watching the whole trial... The defense experts are a laughing stock... Totally incompetent... OP will get a guilty verdict!!!

  • I heard that he is taking acting lessons!!!

    Just note how when he was being questioned over things he was sure about, there was no weeping and wailing. As soon as it was about where Reeva was etc, he was breaking down like an overgrown baby! I agree with everything everyone has said here. It is unfathomable how Reeva would not have heard him screaming at her and carrying on if this was the case as he came down the hallway; she would have called out "I'm here hun etc." Also if you know someone well, like a boyfriend, would you lock the door when taking a pee? Utter nonsense.

  • Series of events

    I have been the victim of false allegations against me, so I am extremely cautious when hearing 2 peoples testimony. Unfortunately in this case, we only have OP. (RIP Reeva). It is extremely difficult to prove a series of events, but in this case, the fans, the duvet on the floor, the jeans, the 'babba' conversation, the helpful pitch dark room, the lack a response from Reeva after hearing intruders, the womens screams, the 4 'accidental' shots, the food in the stomach, the phone call from the guard and 'everything is ok response', the previous gun cases and his obvious avoidance strategy during his cross examination. All of these events individually do not suggest guilt. However, when you add them together. It suggests a 99.9% accuracy of guilt. Even if it is the 0.01 % chance that he did think she was an intruder, he should still go to jail for 20+ for stupidity and weapons violations. Dont let there be another OJ.

  • He is guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

    If he thought that there was an intruder in the bathroom he should have first ensured that Reeva was safe by locating her and asking her to go downstairs and call the police. Going by his version of events as the Prosecutor pointed out why did he stop shooting specifically after firing 4 shots and not empty the magazine? There in lies the truth that he is lying!

  • Guilty as hell

    His Story makes no sense he is a reckless man who has a very bad temper and who has a love for firearms. Oscar Pistorius has broken
    every law of common sense and therefore he is guilty and should go to prison for murdering Reeva in my opinion guilty guilty.

  • Probability of guilty

    Odds of fans, duvet being moved by police?
    Odds of sleeping on different side of bed on this night?
    Odds of not seeing Reeva moving with Phone to the bathroom?
    Odds of not noticing Reeva missing from bed?
    Odds of food remaining in stomach 8 hours later ?
    ODDS of the dude downstairs sleeping through the whole event?

  • Probability of guilty

    Odds of fans, duvet being moved by police?
    Odds of sleeping on different side of bed on this night?
    Odds of not seeing Reeva moving with Phone to the bathroom?
    Odds of not noticing Reeva missing from bed?
    Odds of food remaining in stomach 8 hours later ?
    ODDS of the dude downstairs sleeping through the whole event?

  • Guilty As Hell

    This guy is a joke. He wanted to kill Reeva because he was in a jealous rage and not the first time. She probably wanted to leave him and he couldn't take it. Mr. Nel is doing an excellent job. I can't wait for the judge to find him guilty. Celebrity or not, if you do the crime you must do the time.

  • Guilty of Murder

    I believe that Oscar is guilty. He is an outstanding actor who seriously fears he is about to loose his freedom. Many people feel for him, as tears and visible stress is evident however it's important to look past the emotion and look at the facts in this case. Reeva was a victim trying to protect herself from an enraged lover. Since when do intruders use the bathroom when they break in? Really ridiculous. I believe he deserves the death penalty. He will forever hear her screams and visualize what he has done. There is no rest for the wicked. May Reeva rest in peace.

  • He displays some aspects of a pathological liar and partial narcissistic psychopath

    His whole testimony is a pack of lies
    He has qualities displayed in psychopaths.
    Distrust of others, lying , not taking responsibility for one actions, blaming others , narcissistic ideas about his invulnerability .
    His crying is all fake in that he is concerned about his own fate .
    He makes no desperate apology for killing someone and asking for
    forgiveness because he has no empathy for anyone except himself.
    But he will probably walk free because this silly world loves heroes

  • Guilty guilty guilty

    I have one thesis out of plenty that shows oscars version to be a lie,saying that the movement he heard must have been the magazine rack and then immediately shoot there after does not support his case,because both the state and the defense evidence is that Reeva was standing in close proximity to the door when she was shot,in that time how fast did she have move from the magazine rack to the door??

  • No way He's innocent!

    No way in hell you are going to fire a gun without knowing if your loved ones are safe. That's pure BS. Even if you feel extremely vulnerable, If you hear no one threatening your life to just go and shoot without knowing is crazy! This guys has a history of having a temper and know He's not gonna sit there and act like He thought his life was in danger. On top of that He didn't hear a word of Reeva the whole entire time. Who does He think He's fooling?

  • He lied too many times.

    He said he did not know of the word zombie stopper, but he did.
    He said reevas could not have gone down to eat while he was asleep and they ate at about 7pm. What a load of balloni. So many inconsistencies. His acting crying is different to his real crying he done when he was shown reevas head wound. I believe he regretted it after but done in heat of moment. Spoilt little brat.

  • He lied too many times.

    He said he did not know of the word zombie stopper, but he did.
    He said reevas could not have gone down to eat while he was asleep and they ate at about 7pm. What a load of balloni. So many inconsistencies. His acting crying is different to his real crying he done when he was shown reevas head wound. I believe he regretted it after but done in heat of moment. Spoilt little brat.

  • Guilty guilty guilty

    Sometimes it's so easy to find out the truth but we choose the hard way! The easy way is 'his story just simply doesn't make sense'. To many unrealistic parts of his version of events, the constant crying in court is so over the top, you would have to be an Oscar Pistorius fan to believe it!! Ooo and that apology that was way bad 'I think about you everyday when I wake' "......Please, this guy only thinks of himself. GUILTY AS HELL, PLEASE FIND HIM GUILTY AND NOT LET HIM GET AWAY WITH IT .

  • I do hope he will be found guilty.

    His version does not make sense in a lot of ways as Nel has pointed out. I just cannot believe that when you hear a noise in the toilet you dont automatically check its not your bedmate who just popped to the loo or even say anything to them like "did you hear that" But just grab your gun and start shooting when you dont know who you are shooting at. The part of the story that has no improbabilities is the part where he broke down the door and carried her downstairs which shows that this was the only truthful part of his version of events.

  • Yes, but this debate needs clarification....

    There are three possible convictions: (1) premeditated murder, (2) murder and (3) culpable homicide. The debate question is, I suspect, a bit misleading, as some people will presume it's about the actual verdict, while others will consider it in the broader sense. He has, in fact, admitted to killing her. The question is, was it an accident, was it an uncontrollable act of passion, or was it a conscious, premeditated action?

  • Should be found guilty

    This is another case, such as OJ, where the defendant is a sports hero, and the public has an idealized image of him, rather than an awareness of his true violent private persona.

    First of all, the fact that screams by a woman were heard by witnesses, as well as mention of a heated argument that lasted for about an hour, disputes his claims that Reeva was asleep at the time of the murder.

    Second of all, how could he have gone to the side of the bed where she was sleeping to retrieve his gun, and never take a moment to wake her up and let her know that he was going to protect them from an intruder? It is ludicrous to suggest that he told her that he heard an intruder, and never sought a response from her, or noticed that she was not in the bed at the time. And if he had not had a response from her, wouldn't he have made sure she was not actually in the bathroom by inquiring to double check that she had not gone in? He is the one who claims he had not had a response from her. Who fires four gunshots into a bathroom, with the door locked, without demanding that whoever is in there come out or they will fire, first? He would have jiggled the handle to attempt to enter, see that it was locked, and being in the bathroom, she would have told him so.

    Thirdly, how on earth could somehow silently break into someone's home, without making any noise whatsoever? He would have had to break a door or window, or make noise climbing up to a balcony and entering. At that point, both he and Reeva, would have been awoken. Then, going for a gun would have made sense. And why would this supposed intruder then go lock himself into a bathroom with no one noticing any of this? This is outrageously illogical.

    In addition, if they were supposedly asleep, for at least four hours, how had she actually eaten, two hours previously, as forensics prove? He claims he has no idea. There is also evidence that he sent a text message around 2am. This would discount that they had been asleep since around ten o'clock that evening.

    What reason did he have to say that there was no problem, when he spoke to the attendant of the complex, after she was dead? Why did he not immediately call the police once he found out she was shot instead of calling a relative? Why did he then sabotage the crime scene by picking up and moving her body, interfering with the forensics?

    This is a senseless, premeditated murder of a beautiful innocent human being who ironically was a huge advocate against domestic violence, which is a prevalent epidemic in South Africa. She had her young life ripped away from her in a horrific, terrorizing way. He should receive life in prison. Case closed.

  • Open your eyes people

    Why would Reeva not answer Pistorius's calls to the "intruder?". Why, if she was just using the toilet in the night, would she lock the door. How can you "accidently" fire 4 times in a pattern clearly intended to hit a person behind the door in the torso/head. Pistorius is a narcissistic guilt shifter who deserves nothing less than life in prison

  • Guilty beyond ALL reasonable doubt.

    1. He is an intelligent and experienced gun-user.
    2. He is a world class athlete: he is trained to discipline his emotions.
    3. As posted before: 99% check if partner there, 1% assume partner in bathroom.
    4. Burglars don't head for bathroom and lock it.
    5. 4 shots, aimed at someone seated on toilet - NOT a big boogy man standing.
    6. His emotional breakdowns not consistent with his disciplined career.
    7. Lovers generally do not lock the toilet door I would think. The reasonable expectation is for other to check they are not in bed. But this debatable.
    8. Scared? Really? When YOU have a gun?
    9. OP's story unreasonable.
    10: Murder story reasonable: Valentine's Day, She's upset a man affected by his disability. He appears to me to be a person who usually gets his way. He is a person driven to WIN - not LOSE, and was mad at her rejecting him.
    11. His story is incredible, to the point of insult. Yes, he must be assumed innocent unless doubt can be shown - but there is no doubt here. He is as guilty as hell.

  • Guilty guilty guilty

    Oscar pistorius is an insecure individual who is constantly battling to try so hard to be something great because of his disabilities. He will never be secure in any relationship and because of this, he should not get serious with anyone or change beautiful people because of his own mishaps! You cannot love another person if you hate yourself!!

  • Guilty guilty guilty

    Oscar pistorius is an insecure individual who is constantly battling to try so hard to be something great because of his disabilities. He will never be secure in any relationship and because of this, he should not get serious with anyone or change beautiful people because of his own mishaps! You cannot love another person if you hate yourself!!

  • Common Sense Says Guilty!

    You share you home with someone else, be it a spouse, a partner, a parent, a sibling or a child. In this instance it was your partner who you know shares the same bed as you. You know you are not in the house alone when you hear what you think is a suspicious noise during the night. Yet, rather than check the whereabouts of the person you know full well was sleeping alongside you, but who is no longer present in your bed, you decide the best thing to do is instead open fire through a bathroom door?!? As prosecutor Gerrie Nel concluded, Oscar's version is so improbable a chain of events that no reasonable person can consider it the truth.

    Posted by: RedC
  • Yes he is clearly guilty

    They clearly had an argument. She decided to leave and went to get dressed but he started to get aggressive so she left her jeans on the floor, grabbed her cellphone and locked herself in the bathroom.
    While they were arguing, she emptied her bladder, not once suspecting she would end up dead, as any person in a toilet would do at 3am.
    Realizing she wasn't going to get out, Pistorious got into a rage, tried to smash the door down, when he couldn't, he grabbed his gun and fired 4 shots through the locked door.
    As soon as it was done, he probably realized that he could have shot her. He screamed out to her but on hearing no reply, he panicked. Grabbed the bat and smashed down the door.
    The full horror of what he had done confronted him when he broke down the door.
    That is why he breaks down when forced to recall that particular moment.
    While I don't think he is a cold blooded murderer, I think he is narcissistic and egoistic. A reckless man prone to fits of rage, wrapped up in himself. A gun in the hands of a person like this is a tragic incident like this waiting to happen.
    He should be convicted of murder. It's the least Reeva Steenkemps family deserves.

  • People are creatures of habit

    All of his evidence, leads one to think otherwise. All the sleeping on the wrong side of the bed. Putting items of clothes where they would not be. Not asking questions when someone gets out of bed. We are all made of the same DNA and do things very similar. Try to just brush your teeth with your opposite hand. Or Not touch your toothbrush with your tongue while you brush your teeth. Something that simple is hard initially because we are creatures of habit. Surprised the prosecution didn't ask if they discussed that she saw her ex-boyfriend that day. I think her seeing her ex the day before valentine sent him into a rage. She had all intentions of having a good evening and that bit of info made him jealous. They argued and she realized things would not change with his jealously and wanted out of the relationship. Then the act happened. Unfortunately I don't think people (the judge) can ignore his status and sentence him as any other suspect. If you or I were on stage we would not get away with this babel. Being let out on bail is an indication of the forthcoming judgement. But I personally think he's guilty. I'm married and there is not way you would not hear someone moving from one room to another. Especially in the middle of the night sound are amplified. My tv on 45 of 100 sounds setting sounds quite at during the day. At night setting 2 will wake my wife up and she'll ask me to watch tv in another room. Sad situation.

  • 100% guilty of murder

    1. He never established where Reeva was before going off and shooting at the toilet door. Any couple would have had a conversation about the noise "did you hear that?" "yes!", "just stay here" - then take your gun and go towards the perceived danger. 2. His stories are too long and complicated. Too many improbabilities. The truth is simple, lies are complicated. 3. He claims that Reeva never said a word when he was standing in front of the toilet door shouting for her to call the police (this could never happen, any normal person would've answered "it's me in here, just relax"). If she was however in there trying to stay quiet "because of the burglars", she would've tried to call the police from in there and there would be call records. 4. He won't admit to any of the charges - not even when it is as clear as day that he was guilty of possessing ammunition that he didn't have a license for, which is illegal, he still plead not guilty. That was the opportune time to prove his credibility by at least admitting that he didn't know it was illegal and if it is, then he accepts full responsibility. But he keeps playing this innocent victim who does nothing wrong, everything is just an accident that he refuses to take responsibility for. 5. She locked the toilet door and had her cellphone with her - I have never in my entire life locked (or even closed) the toilet door in the middle of the night or taken my cellphone with me. 6. The fact that there is proof of terrible arguments so early in their relationship - the way he picked on her, insulted her, etc is very unusual for beginning stages when everything is usually "sunshine and roses". 7. At the end of the day, he was completely reckless (and has been many times with his gun) and he should suffer the consequences of that - whether intentional/unintentional. He senselessly took a beautiful young woman's life - a friend, a daughter - for no good reason and left so many people unable to cope with life.

  • Pistorious is Guilty of first degree murder.

    The most sickening aspect of the trial is that this Pistorious guy shows no genuine remorse. His only concern is self preservation. He makes me want to retch and vomit at his antics. All his freak show blubbering is so staged. I hope that he pays the full price and then some. Justice for Reeva and her dignified family. It's the least that they deserve and there the only people that matter.

  • Why would she take her phone to the bathroom.

    Of course he's guilty, this man is famous for his spontaneous outbreaks of temper. It's been proven that she had eaten later than what he claims and still he argues that point. All the evidence stacks up to a guilty verdict but remember this is South Africa!,. He will probably be aquited. Shame on you OP for taking the life of a beautiful sole.

  • Reeva standing, clothed, facing door, door locked

    That would seem to point to a conversation/argument through the door - especially in view of OP admission that he was talking/screaming. I was intrigued at evidence today. OP was asked what he said. Big pause...'Get the **** out of my bathroom.' As Nel said, actually sounded like the truth

  • Guilty as charged

    Too many improbable loopholes in his story.

    Why has nobody made an issue of the fact (based on OP's account) of why Reeva went to the toilet in the early hours of the morning with her mobile phone? Who does that?

    A person may do that if they are up and arguing, then perhaps fleeing to the toilet for refuge? Perhaps she was going to call somebody in reference to the argument or for assistance?

    Speculation aside, the fact is OP intentionally fired 4 shots through a bathroom door suspecting somebody was behind it, without reasonable challenge of a suspect. Otherwise Reeva would have called out in response.

    Reeva or not, it was an execution and so guilty of murder.

  • Why didn't he check when the thought entered his head to pick the gun up?

    I have looked at it form all angles. Honestly my brain hurts...I mean you don't want him to have done this do you. That anyone could do such a hideous thing but something just doesn't stack up and it comes to the basic thing about knowing where she was in the house. If you heard a noise in the bathroom, fan blowing in his face or not. You would first think that's my partner in the bathroom first off. You wouldn't assume it was a burglar over the girlfriend. Even as late as before he shot...He didn't think to check where she was. I think he's convinced himself he's innocent. People with PERSONLAITY DISORDERS DO THIS straight away in there mind. Narcissistic personality disorder is what I'd say he has. He was in a rage. He was out of control, if he wasn't out of control I don't think he would have thought arh, I'm going to kill her tomorrow but with regards to premeditation. He thought he picked the gun up he worked to his 'burglar'. He is a victim of a screwed up upbringing but it doesn't justified what he's done one bit. I feel for you Reeva. You sounded a lovely girl, unfortunately just the sort of lady that would attract his attention - plenty of narc supply to try and get hold off. We've got to learn form this plenty of men and women are victims of personality disorder people there are tuns about. We should all be taught about them form a young age, not only learn form face to face experience. As we have seen here - not all of us come out alive. For the record there are a few different types and sometimes overlap. There one thing in common THEY CANNOT EMPATHIZE. The rot of evil. Empathy is a LEARNED behavior from our parents. Let's all try and do something about this!!!!

  • Not guilty innocent not guilty innocent

    It was in the middle of the night,he has fears and these make him behave differently,with limited mobility he can only use the gun,his remorse looks that he didnt have the intention to kill,he is an honest person with so much talents to give to others.His body language shows honesty.

  • Only Oscar Knows

    This case has attracted world wide attention. In many countries around the world, the way the crime scene was handled , a huge error in the preservation of the scene and the first responders management of their movements throughout the home and that their is NO eye witness to this terrible event only evidence from neighbours on sounds, would shape this trial in a very different way. There is no question that Oscar Pistorius fired his weapon but in that moment only he can account for his actions. Lets say they did have a fight and Reeva went into the toilet to be away from him. They sent thousands of text messages to eachother everyday and night. On that night and in that moment, if they were fighting and yelling at eachother through the toilet door - for a women who was so vocal and not scared to speak her mind. WHY was there no quick text message from her phone to anyone. In that moment there has been no mention of a text of even one word - HELP. Or even a text to a friend - a short message describing what was happening. I in NO way think that it is alright on any level to end to end someone's life in such a horrific manner.
    But this is a question of how to provide the correct punishment for the crime. Why are many or all most all of the witnesses kept together in the same rooms. The people providing evidence should not have been communicating with other witnesses. People like to have their 5 minutes of fame and when this trial is over and the witness orders from the Judge are lifted..... You can almost place a bet that many will tell their story especially the likes of Ex-girlfriend Samantha. A woman that loved Oscar so much she wanted him back in her life but now seems to have only negative things to say. If she wanted her relationship with Oscar Pistorius to keep going and be part of his life, then their 2 year relationship couldn't have been all bad. This athlete was so inspiring to so many people, especially those with a disability. His life what ever the outcome from the Judge and the Court is over .
    Also ask yourself this - for almost a year he was allowed to travel Overseas and leave the country if the proper paperwork could be arranged. Knowing that a good outcome was not going to be a remote possibility. Then why did he not leave the Country and not return to face this case.???....
    As we hear more evidence - then perhaps a clear yes or no answer could be given as to his guilt. There is no winning with this case - a very talented and beautiful young woman lost her life and a young man who will have to live with his actions for the rest of his life.

  • I really hope not!

    No facts were presented that this was premeditated. I firmly believe his story and that it was a horrible accident. You can tell how torn up he is over this. It's so heartbreaking. I hope he is found not guilty. Love you Oscar! Forever a fan!

    -Sending love from the USA

  • Not innocent, but not guilty in the eyes of the law.

    I believe that in all probability he did intentionally kill her, but in the legal system (even in South Africa) the prosecution has responsibility to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt, the defense doesn't have to prove innocence. There has always been a bias towards the defense. If the prosecution cannot prove guilt BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT (that's the key here), the judge has no option other than to rule not guilty. The prosecution in this trial has done a very good job to show that he is probably guilty, but they haven't removed all reasonable doubt. Nor do they have the evidence to do so. So unfortunately the judge has to rule not guilty on the charge of intentionally murdering her.

  • Not innocent, but not guilty in the eyes of the law.

    I believe that in all probability he did intentionally kill her, but in the legal system (even in South Africa) the prosecution has responsibility to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt, the defense doesn't have to prove innocence. There has always been a bias towards the defense. If the prosecution cannot prove guilt BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT (that's the key here), the judge has no option other than to rule not guilty. The prosecution in this trial has done a very good job to show that he is probably guilty, but they haven't removed all reasonable doubt. Nor do they have the evidence to do so. So unfortunately the judge has to rule not guilty on the charge of intentionally murdering her.

  • Not Guilty Of Premeditated Murder

    Prosecutors are overreaching. Its become a default rule in high-profile cases, in my opinion that's what led to the acquittal of George Zimmerman. Ambitious prosecutors overreach for the highest murder charge when the evidence just isn't there. In the Pistorius trial, as in the Zimmerman trial, a conviction on a lesser charge, in this case culpable homicide, would be almost automatic. Now nothing short of life in prison will satisfy as justice to Reeva Steenkamp's family, and that's understandable, but from a legal perspective, it's an unlikely success for prosecutors. Premeditated murder requires planning and deliberation. Let's get even more specific: It requires the time to form the conscious intent to kill and then act on it after enough time for a reasonable person to second-guess that decision. If you look at the facts of the Pistorius case, you'll find that there is simply no evidence to prove this type of planning and deliberation. The prosecution can't just speculate on state of mind.

    So far there has been a rumor that a witness heard the couple fighting intensely about an hour prior to the shooting. If they were fighting, who knows how long the fight lasted? How can we guess whether the shooting did or did not occur in the heat of passion immediately following or in the midst of a fight, thereby ruling out premeditation? There must be evidence.

    However, the Pistorius case presents no such evidence of planning. To the contrary, if there is testimony that a heated argument preceded the murder, then that is more supportive of negligent homicide than premeditated murder.

    The prosecution tried to base its whole theory of premeditation around Pistorius' prosthetic legs. Initially, prosecutors claimed that Pistorius took the time to put on his prosthetic legs. They claimed that the time that passed while he put on his prosthetic legs was sufficient to allow him to think out and plan the murder. But just recently we heard a ballistics expert testify that Pistorius likely shot Steenkamp while on his stumps. This evidence completely belied the prosecution's theory, and with no one to contradict it, it seems the prosecution has or will concede that he was not wearing his prosthetics. Now the prosecution appears to be left with zero evidence to prove intent.

    Theres just too much doubt about what went on in Pistorius' mind and in that house that evening. In my opinion, the rest of the evidence is just irrelevant. How he acted after the fact and whether he screamed or she screamed does not prove deliberation and planning. Unless the prosecution can find some solid evidence from inside that house, it will not succeed. Neither circumstantial witnesses like neighbors nor experts can speak to Pistorius' state of mind. The judge has the discretion to convict on a lesser charge, but the prosecution is undermining the strength of such a conviction by focusing all its efforts on trying to prove premeditation. This is what happened with George Zimmerman, and he was acquitted.

  • Not guilty. Innocent.

    SA is a violent place and if you are suddenly awaken and think there is an intruder you react and it has to be fast otherwise you will be killed. America , Mexico, most of South America are the same. I believe he was trying to protect Reeva. It was a big mistake as he didn't hear her get out of bed and reacted knowing in his mind Reeva is asleep and I must protect her.

  • Not Guilty of Murder (but Guilty of Culpable Homicide, and Guilty on firearm/ammunition charges).

    I think he knew exactly who was in the toilet; that he chased her during a violent argument and when she managed to lock the toilet door before he could reach her, he went into a blind rage and shot repeatedly before she had time to ring anyone for help. However, unless there's harder evidence to come, I think he'll get the lesser charge. He may be sentenced to a minimal jail sentence but even if he walks free, life as he knew it, is over. He'll never be able to shake off the 'killer' label and for a man who overcame such adversity to become a world class star, admired and respected by millions, this will be his punishment and a life long sentence.

  • I believe OP is not guilty of murder but guilty of culpable homicide.

    OP shot out of fear or anger. SA is a violent society, fear of crime is very high. OP is a young man who has been blessed with fame and success. He has also had many difficult times. He has been selfish and unwise but also caring and well meaning.

  • Not guilty. Did not intentionally shoot Reeva.

    It was 3 in the morning... If you hear noises in the bathroom (like those Oscar claims) then you would question what the hell is going on. Considering it is South Africa, its a volatile country and there are many cases of intruding, so Oscar would have already made that judgement. Also, saying he should have waited to see who was in the bathroom, in hindsight was the right/best thing to do, but this is in hindsight and it would have been different on the night. If it was the worst case scenario and he waited to see who was in the bathroom and then got burgled/killed, it would be the opposite of todays case. Additionally, the case that neighbours heard what happened or arguments is unsure, as some of these 'witnesses' were up to 600m metres away and this evidence has been disputed by Oscars representatives. I hope justice will be done if he did it intentionally, but I believe that until substantial evidence is shown, then he cannot be guilty. There are many questions that are asked in hindsight, for example, why did he not call out or go to inform/check on Reeva. But these need to be explored fully by the prosecution.

    Posted by: jobs
  • Not guilty not

    His remorse is not that of a person that had intent to kill. We saw of the "monster's" trial last year the guy seemed not to care and should no emmotions at all. If he is found guilty that means the court allows Saps to tamper with crime scenes and not answer for them..The issues of missing watches police men unplugging the fan to charge his phone wearing unprotective clothes and all that.

  • The s.African law is in his favour

    It will be culpable murder/homicide - I feel he's guilty, the facts are there e.g. why he didn't call out to reeva when he walked to the b/room or as he approached the door? Surely you wake your partner up if you think someone's in the house!? And you check before loading shots thro the door. Point is the absence of a jury, as a judge she is bound more than a jury to act within the law. It is on the prosecution to present uncertain doubt that it was murder, if there is any doubt at all the judge has to offer a lesser sentence.


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