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Would a federal sales tax be more equitable than the current federal income tax?

  • This way tourists, unemployed, illegals, people on state aid and everyone else would contribute. Cash businesses would now pay taxes (nail salons, bars, restaurants, etc..)

    Not to mention that we would not need the IRS any longer which would save a ton. We would just have to think of an option for homes, cars, boats, etc...

    Seems to have bailed Russia out and we can't keep doing what we are doing and expecting it to get any better right? Simply crazy to me that the tax system we have now gets mishandled the way that it does. This could also fund no cost hospitals the way Brazil has. You can have insurance and go to the state of the art hospitals or walk into a free county hospital.

  • Think about illegal aliens and tourists

    To swap income tax for sales tax makes more sense. This could also help fix our illegal alien problem. I only have a problem with illegal aliens because they use government programs and our education system but they don't pay taxes. I think the House should swap immigration reform for a flat federal sales tax because anytime something is sold, tax will be paid no matter who you are. So in essence everyone is paying taxes, not just the 1% or just the 99%, ALL 100% will pay according to what they use. I would much rather have all 1625 of my paycheck every 2 weeks and determine how I will spend it than the 1087 I get because of income taxes and medicare taxes and social security taxes which I will never see. At least with a flat sales tax I am not being promised something there is no way my generation will ever see.

  • Absolutely YES,

    This is a great idea and we should push for it. We would then be able to tax the 60 billion dollar a year drug trade. That drug dealer that buys a luxury boat or car would then be taxed. This would generate a big stimulus to our economy. We would have less need for the tax attorneys, the huge IRS department (whose budget this year is 13.3 billion dollars) and CPA's to do these tax returns.
    This would be a win - win for all of us, rich or poor.

  • A flat Federal sales tax would be more equitable than the current income tax system.

    A national sales tax would fall evenly on all citizens regardless of their income. No matter who purchased, for instance, a washing machine, they would have the same tax placed on the purchase price; there would be no level of differing taxes based on income. For this to be truly equitable there must be no exemptions for luxury goods, such as yachts, to shield the rich.

    Posted by: FLindsay
  • Yes

    I live in Texas where there is no state income tax. However, we have one the highest sales tax rates in the nation. Our sales tax works as our income tax and everyone is subject to except when purchasing food or services such as plumbing. I feel the same will work for the rest of the country!!! This will not hurt the poor, it will ensure that wether you are buying a ford fiesta or a Maserati you will be paying your "fair" share!!!

  • YES

    I see a lot of people saying it would hurt the poor but it's simple math. If a low income person spends 100% of their check, say $600 and are taxed 10% that's $660 dollars. If a rich person spends 10% of their check, $600 dollars and are taxed 10% that's $660 dollars. The rich just have 90% they can't spend if they don't want to be taxed. The tax remains the same dollar for dollar. It doesn't affect the poor as much as the rich. More spent money, more taxes paid. Less spent money, less taxes paid. The poor WOULD NOT have more of a burden.

    There are a lot of "rich" people out there that blow 1000's a day on crap only to turn around and claim it back in deductions. With a sales tax these 1000's in spent money would turn into 100's in tax income.

    For the middle and lower class it would mean keeping more of your check to start, let you save money back, and move up the chain. The only safe gaurds that would need to be put in place is "passing the buck" which a lot of companies currently do. Raise the price of items to make up for the tax they have to pay. The IRS wouldn't be able to be closed, it would just get smaller and keep an eye on big businesses to make sure they aren't trying to take advantage of the consumer by trying to pass on the tax as a "cost of living increase".

  • The great equalizer

    So as per my W2 and my tax return I am left paying 15.3% total in federal tax. So if every person and business pays exactly the same then it's a simple done deal. And I do mean everyone, every time. Disney just bought Lucas for four billion plus. Place the same 15% sales tax on that. Bam! It would absolutely fix everything.

  • Tired of the rich not paying fair share

    With the current tax bills and medical insurance going sky high since Obamacare, the only way to equally share the pain is through a Federal Sales Tax. Not on staple foods, clothing, except Luxury items. Hit everyone the same way. Lower incomes who buy more food and basic clothing will not be hit as hard as the ones buying Vineyards and G6's. How much odes the Goverment pay the IRS in salaries to harass middle income Americans? Why not just turn the IRS into tha sales tax collecting agency and get rid of a tax program that has turned the 1040 into a lesson in Astro-Physics and Nuclear Reactor Engineering?

  • Absolutely

    Provide an incentive for saving and investing while taxing consumption. Also decrease the tremendous cost of tax compliance for millions of Americans as well as corporations every year. I'm an accountant and realize that thousands of CPAs would have to find new work if tax were to be simplified to this point. In reality though, they are smart individuals who can help a business grow and should not be troubled for finding jobs. The overall increase in savings & investing leads to smart spending which drives the up tax revenues and produces a more active economy. Reduce government limitations and entitlements but increase education and public communication so that we have a voting population who is knowledgeable and driven on the issues. Our bi-partisan system has failed as both sides are deceptive.

  • More equal

    Those with more income generally buy more any way, and generally buy more expensive items.
    Food, medical, housing (to an extent), clothing (to an extent), should not be taxed. Those are the necessities of life.
    If a person of greater wealth wants to buy "bling", they pay more in taxes. Those who are on a lower budge pay less.
    No income tax, but tax on what is purchased.

  • A sales tax would not be more equitable than the federal income tax because it would hurt the poor the most.

    There are basic needs that every person, rich or poor, must have. To tax heavily the basic needs and services that everyone must purchase is to place an undue burden on the poor. Certain basic things would become completely unaffordable for those who didn't have much money. The rich and poor would basically be paying the same taxes, but it would cripple the poor while not affecting the richest. This is not a humane concept.

    Posted by: OnfBIeak
  • A federal sales tax would only achieve the same thing that the current income tax does.

    While it sounds right on the outside, a tax such as this is really no better or different than an income tax. The income tax is figured on a progressive scale that has people who earn more paying a higher percentage than those earning less. Since richer people have more money, they obviously buy more stuff, and would, once again, pay more in taxes. Therefore, a tax like this would achieve nothing and look very underhanded and bad on our government's part.

    Posted by: BryanPeterson
  • No, a national sales tax would not be equitable.

    A national sales tax would be inequitable to the poor who spend more of their income on purchases than the wealthy. The purpose of our tax system is to tax the wealthy more than the poor. They benefit more from our society than the poor and should pay more. The problem with the current system is that it has become so complicated with the constant changes. The progressive nature of the tax system would be benefited by simplifying it, but not creating a national sales tax.

    Posted by: R43Shep
  • Federal sales tax would not be more equitable at all, because it penalizes consumption and taxes people unequally.

    Federal sales tax sounds like a good idea at first, but there are many problems with it. Among these problems would be that it discourages consumption, which in the long run, hurts our economy. It is also unfair because it taxes the poor at a much higher rate than anyone else. If a poor person has to spend 100% of their pay check to get by, then they get taxed on 100% of their pay check. Whereas a rich person might only spend 20% or 30% of it, leaving them largely untaxed.

    Posted by: M0r3Fire
  • Crunch the Numbers

    The leak is in spending; fix the leak and then we'll figure out how to decrease taxes. Otherwise, this is just an alternative way to raise money that will be wasted. Many people confuse *lower* taxes with *fair* taxes - which is an oxymoron in the first place: "fair" and "tax" shouldn't even be in the same phrase.
    If you actually do the math, you'll find that this doesn't lower anything; just moves the costs from the rich to the poor. I think those who earn their money should keep it - including the rich. But creating a vast economic gap between the rich and the poor is not exactly the way to avoid a 1780 France. Do we really want to eat cake?
    Think about it. Say, someone makes $30,000/year. Under current (2014) brackets, they'll pay income tax (15%) on $21,074 of it. That's a $3161.10 tax liability. Fair Tax is going to be about 23%. Let's say they spend $1300/month on rent, utilities, and groceries (all supposedly exempt from a nation-wide tax...But since when has our government agreed to permanently exempt anything?), and the remaining $1200/month goes to gas, clothes, non-grocery items, furniture, electronics, entertainment, and dining out. That's $14400/year, which, in a 23% tax comes to a $3312 tax liability.
    And that's if our notoriously waffling government keeps it at 23%.
    Besides hurting those with lower income, we're tempting people to buy internationally, producing a shortage of American jobs - and tempting people not to buy at all, which is good for long-term economy, but fatal short-term. We shouldn't punish for earning money, but should we punish for providing the means for people to earn money - i.E., buying? We're supposedly putting the IRS out of business, which sounds great, except we're transferring the workload from them to the shoulders of the sales tax collectors - businesses. That will be doable for the large retail stores, but small businesses spend hours every month (I know; I used to be a bookkeeper for a small store) filing taxes. Do we really want to make it harder for them to make ends meet?
    The tax system needs serious work. But I think people are so in love with the "Fair Tax" name, they aren't paying attention to the ramifications.

  • Would just increase inequality

    In the past few years, the income of the top 1% has increased 275%, and the flat tax would just worsen this! The rich would have no income tax, and the sales tax would be a mere part of their yearly income. In addition, why should we tax those making $50,000 yearly the same amount as those making $1,000,000 yearly? Furthermore, if we decrease the salary of the poor, a chain reaction will occur, as they will be forced to use more healthcare provided for them.

  • Many people buy things

    Many people buy things in the store, including kids. With sales tax, kids would have to pay more for the things they like. A little kid also doesn't have to pay income tax, seeing how they don't make money. I think that federal income tax is the better way to go.

  • sales tax and federal tax too

    Give the government a chance and they will make it worse. The less they do the slower they over tax us and spend more money that the US does not have. If they CHANGE from an income tax to a sales tax it might work if certain exceptions like those in NY State are used. Food and Medical should not be taxed.

  • Demand drives our economy.

    No matter how gleefully supporters argue that a federal sales tax will encourage people to save, they are merely obfuscating the fact that this saving comes at the expense of spending that creates demand, and it is always demand that creates economic growth. Nothing supply-siders say about giving businesses money to "create jobs" addresses the basic economic fact that it is demand that creates jobs.

    People do not create businesses in order to add jobs to the economy, they crate businesses to make money, and the only way they can make money in a capitalist system is by meeting demand. No demand, no business. No demand, no new jobs.

    Therefore any, and all, arguments supporting supply-side stimulus are merely ideological, and are not accurate.

  • I disagree-reduce taxes don't increase them.

    Opening the door to federal sales tax without identifing how it will be managed, where the money will go and who can raise or lower the tax is not the way to do business. We already pay more than our fair share of taxes based on income, adding sales taxes will just increase financial burden, dramatically increase the cost of goods sold and reduce overall money flow. Ultimately higher taxes reduce sales and could cause a run away affect and would further burden this country with loss of sales. Ultimately, spending would stop except for essentials. Now if we completely removed income tax and reduce the sales tax burden to around 5% and insured states didn't tax more than 5%, 10% on the cost of goods is reasonable. In CA I already pay nearly 10% sales tax on goods, 25% would push most Californians off of purchasing goods in t he medium to low income households.


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