What Makes you happy in life? Would you give it up, if god tells you to?

Posted by: XxShiro123xX

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Yes i would give it up

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No i wouldn't give it up

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reece says2017-10-25T14:10:30.5203227Z
What If you start hearing a voice in your head (claiming to be God) telling you to sacrifice one of your family members?
Seiji says2017-10-25T15:17:33.1309085Z
@reece then seek help.
clild says2017-11-11T23:15:10.7149367Z
That's a good question. I would recommend replacing 'god' with another term, considering not everyone believes in a higher being. Perhaps 'something bigger than yourself that you believe in truly/has the ultimate say', such as what if science (if you are intensely close with science/ scientific method) told you to stop? This boils down to cognitive dissonance, and because of what that entails (and I recommend reading on about this subject), we can easily assume most will answer 'no'.
Spiffy-Gonzalez says2017-11-23T05:22:20.2795716Z
Reece XD Honestly though, if God told me to and I knew it was God telling me to do it I would. Not saying I wouldn't feel awful, I would. But above all else Gods will be done.
ijaouanek says2017-11-28T23:05:12.8887485Z
I wouldn't think it's god
Bitch_Goddess says2017-11-29T17:42:13.1126239Z
Spiffy.....You'd kill your entire family....Because a magical sky-daddy told you to...? Shows how crazy some religious nuts are....
missmedic says2017-11-30T12:40:00.5683405Z
I would want to see some I.D. First
missmedic says2017-11-30T12:49:43.9496801Z
I would want to see some I.D. First
Anyara says2018-01-05T15:29:24.2439407Z
What about the atheists/agnostics/etc here? Your poll seems directed to believers of God. If I don't believe that He exists, how do I know that God is telling me to give something up?
Spiffy-Gonzalez says2018-01-12T02:30:14.9378673Z
Bitch_Goddess, who's more crazy: the person that would kill his family under God's orders, or the person who; if they KNEW it was God (you know, creator and destroyer of all things. The guy who decides what right and wrong actually are. The one who chooses wether you'll go to to a place of never ending happiness as opposed to burning in an eternal fire for all of eternity experiencing the worst pain you've ever felt multiplied by a billion billion. The guy who can do this at will, maybe you've heard of him) they would still refuse him? LOGIC! \(·_·)/
Bitch_Goddess says2018-01-18T20:13:05.9127427Z
Spiffy, Killing is immoral. Perhaps if your 'God' made it moral instead of immoral (even though it would logically make no sense), I'd have a different stance on the issue. However, the moment you force your religion on another (even if this God were to exist), that's where the line gets drawn. You can kill yourself in the name of God for all I care. But no one has the right to inflict harm to *other* people based on the idea that your God spoke to you. Honestly, I'd rather go to Hell rather than go to Heaven with a genocidal psychotic dictator who claims it's perfect and loving- that you people call "God". Living in a place of eternal suffering would be better than conforming to the immoralities that this God would want us to inflict upon others, especially to those I personally love and cherish.
Spiffy-Gonzalez says2018-01-20T06:18:44.5111693Z
XD dude, if God actually spoke to you than it is not a belief, it actually happened. We're talking God here. Decider of right and wrong. If God himself spoke to you and you KNEW it was God, and for him to actually be THE God he would have to be decider of right and wrong, than anything he says is right is automatically right. God's principle is above all others and is above individual morality. Secondly I'm pretty sure if God told you that you have the right to do anything, and Abrahamic Christian God having supreme authority over all things, than I'm pretty sure you DO have the right to. Our inherent sense of right and wrong was given to us by him according to Christianity and he can sure as well change it if he so pleases. You don't seem to understand that God's will would be done regardless. If you refuse he'll simply change your mind and damn you to Hell for questioning him. Also, about the rather going to Hell thing, no you wouldn't. Hell is a place of immortal punishment beyond all manor of mortal comprehension. If you spent even a tenth of a second in hell you would very well be traumatized do to the extreme pain you would be facing. Hell is a final place of torment to punish those who refused God's will that makes even angels suffer in unimaginable pain (keep in mind one Angel killed an entire army in less than a few seconds). I'm sorry but I'm have no doubt that under that kind of pain you would do WHATEVER God wants you to do under ANY circumstances to end that pain, especially considering that your entire life is less than a blink in the time of God.
XxShiro123xX says2018-01-22T14:25:01.8830722Z
If you are a believer of god and he told to kill someone, would you actually do it, what would non-believers think about your religion then ? Here's another question, why did god create such a terrible creature (humans)? Ever since the humans were made so many species have gone extinct, and we even kill each other over some of the most stupid things.
Bitch_Goddess says2018-01-22T21:32:22.0579077Z
So how exactly would one be able to differentiate whether it is God or a voice in your head? No matter the case, you have no right to involve others based on your personal interests on the matter. I couldn't give a shvt if it's "God" or not, you are in charge of your body, and yours alone. Killing someone is involving another, and it is completely immoral. "Secondly I'm pretty sure if God told you that you have the right to do anything, and Abrahamic Christian God having supreme authority over all things, than I'm pretty sure you DO have the right to." Yet, he isn't in charge of everyone. He could be considered in charge of those who follow him, but no one else is compelled or required to follow that sadistic fairy. Assuming God really does exist, he gave us as individuals free will- not the power to dictate what happens to others lives. "Our inherent sense of right and wrong was given to us by him according to Christianity and he can sure as well change it if he so pleases." Then, by all means, if "God" decides to make murder and despair moral, go right on ahead. However, the fact remains right now, that it is not. So if someone decides to murder another person "in the name of God", because "God told [me] so", you can bet your ass I'll be 100% against it. "I'm sorry but I'm have no doubt that under that kind of pain you would do WHATEVER God wants you to do under ANY circumstances to end that pain, especially considering that your entire life is less than a blink in the time of God." Nah, I'd be tossing back some drinks with my main-man Satan and partying with some bad-ass demons.
Spiffy-Gonzalez says2018-01-24T02:39:18.7258136Z
XxShiro123xX, not really. We kill each other over money, love, power, identity, safety, land, etc. Only difference with animals is they don't kill each other over money. However there have been plenty times when a fat animal would kill another fat animal over food, despite having plenty of its own. I'd say man is plenty better than other species since we've made cures, buildings, advanced technology, theology, sociology, etc.
Spiffy-Gonzalez says2018-01-24T02:40:08.1163634Z
XxShiro123xX, not really. We kill each other over money, love, power, identity, safety, land, etc. Only difference with animals is they don't kill each other over money. However there have been plenty times when a fat animal would kill another fat animal over food, despite having plenty of its own. I'd say man is plenty better than other species since we've made cures, buildings, advanced technology, theology, sociology, etc.
Spiffy-Gonzalez says2018-01-24T02:53:53.0134265Z
I'm pretty sure God would make you know. You're a fool if you think that God would have no way of making you know. "You're in charge of your body and yours alone" unless you're a God and you own everything since the creation of existence. It's kind of the point of being God. "You have no right..." actually you do. God kind of gave it to you. "He isn't in charge of everyone, only those who follow him" the Guy who created mankind and ALLOWS it to have free will isn't in charge of it... Because it has free will? Please, explain that. "However the fact remains, it has not" you're saying that the logical rhetorical assumption is not allowed to be made when you're in a rhetorical discussion? Because if so you're missing the entire point of a rhetorical discussion. "You can bet... If someone killed in the name of God... I'd be against it" See, the thing is you're not killing them in God's name. You're killing them because God told you so. There's a number of reasons to do it: you're immortal soul, the greater good, etc. "I'd be... Parting with demons" you obviously have no idea who the devil is, what demons are, or even the point of hell"
Bitch_Goddess says2018-01-24T18:09:18.1132759Z
Spiffy, God gave us free will, correct? Therefore, people are not forced to follow him. In so, they are not inclined to follow his will and his rules, and they are not part of his plan. In so, you are not inclined to be a part of his plan, be it through someone else's actions. Forcing yourself upon those who do not follow God (because God gave us the ability to stray) is not within your due right. If God wants someone dead, he can strike them down himself. Even so, I don't believe in God. And killing is immoral. Even if someone told me God told them to kill their family, I would not believe them. Even if it were to be true. And If I did believe them, I still wouldn't agree with it because, unlike you apparently, I value my life and the life of others. If someone told my sister to murder me, I would be completely against it. It's only common sense. I don't want to die, and I certainly would not die because some homicidal, psychotic God told them to kill me for whatever reason (assuming there's a reason in the first place). Again, if your little God wants to make killing ethical, it would be considered moral and our conscience wouldn't say otherwise. So until your imaginary friend does so, I am, and always will be, against murdering another person (unless through self-defense). Even if God told someone to. "you're not killing them in God's name. You're killing them because God told you so." Killing someone because someone told you is doing it in their name. For example, Muslim extremists kill in the name of their God, Allah. Because they believe that's what he wants them to do- that he asks for it in the Torah. When you kill for someone else, you are doing it in their name. "If you appoint someone to act in your name, it means that they can act as your agent within the restrictions you impose." If you instruct someone to kill, you are giving them the agency to act in your name. " you obviously have no idea who the devil is, what demons are, or even the point of hell" It's a joke, sweetheart. I don't believe in Hell or Heaven, so the idea that I'd be partying with demons is illogical; let alone that they'd be torturing me. As is everything about Heaven or Hell.
Bitch_Goddess says2018-01-24T18:10:02.6827616Z
Spiffy, God gave us free will, correct? Therefore, people are not forced to follow him. In so, they are not inclined to follow his will and his rules, and they are not part of his plan. In so, you are not inclined to be a part of his plan, be it through someone else's actions. Forcing yourself upon those who do not follow God (because God gave us the ability to stray) is not within your due right. If God wants someone dead, he can strike them down himself. Even so, I don't believe in God. And killing is immoral. Even if someone told me God told them to kill their family, I would not believe them. Even if it were to be true. And If I did believe them, I still wouldn't agree with it because, unlike you apparently, I value my life and the life of others. If someone told my sister to murder me, I would be completely against it. It's only common sense. I don't want to die, and I certainly would not die because some homicidal, psychotic God told them to kill me for whatever reason (assuming there's a reason in the first place). Again, if your little God wants to make killing ethical, it would be considered moral and our conscience wouldn't say otherwise. So until your imaginary friend does so, I am, and always will be, against murdering another person (unless through self-defense). Even if God told someone to. "you're not killing them in God's name. You're killing them because God told you so." Killing someone because someone told you is doing it in their name. For example, Muslim extremists kill in the name of their God, Allah. Because they believe that's what he wants them to do- that he asks for it in the Torah. When you kill for someone else, you are doing it in their name. "If you appoint someone to act in your name, it means that they can act as your agent within the restrictions you impose." If you instruct someone to kill, you are giving them the agency to act in your name. " you obviously have no idea who the devil is, what demons are, or even the point of hell" It's a joke, sweetheart. I don't believe in Hell or Heaven, so the idea that I'd be partying with demons is illogical; let alone that they'd be torturing me. As is everything about Heaven or Hell.
Spiffy-Gonzalez says2018-01-25T06:07:42.9175561Z
Bitch_Goddess, you're lack in faith has nothing to do with this discussion. You're correct in the assumption that God gave is free will, however you're wrong in the assumption that if God allowed us to harm another that it is still immoral. You keep bringing up this idea that God can "go ahead and make it moral". So ill say this as clearly as I can. This is a RHETORICAL DISCUSSION. One in which God has ordered you to kill someone. Under these circumstances he had ALREADY made such an act moral. Forcing others to act against their will, harming others, all of this would be considered moral because the one who decides what is moral has ALREADY MADE IT MORAL. So under these circumstances, NOT doing what God says would insure that you KNOWINGLY commit an evil act. Because under this discussion God would HAVE to exist, which would mean he IS the decider of right and wrong, not whatever you happen to believe at the time. You say it's common sense yet if this rhetorical situation actually occurred than you would KNOW there is an afterlife and you would KNOW that Hell and Heaven are real. So tell me logically, what makes more sense: committing an act which God deems to be just and receiving eternal pleasure. Or having your "I know better than God" moment and burning in Hell for infinite quadrillion years? It seems to me that acting on emotion knowing that it will earn you a negative outcome is not the logical thing to do, but that is just me. "Imaginary friend", "little God", etc. Once again, A RHETORICAL DISCUSSION. Under this discussion God MUST exist or else the discussion would not take place. "If you kill someone because someone told you to, you're killing in their name". This is the exact same as saying soldiers fight for Trump or Hitmen kill for mob bosses. There are many reasons to kill when told to that do not account for killing in their name. Say that someone was a demon. If God told an atheist to, than they could assume that they were killing them for the sake of humanity. Not for God. Or worse yet, their immortal soul. "I don't believe..." frankly I don't care what you do or don't believe. I have yet to reveal my religion. For all you know I could worship the flying spaghetti monster. NONE. OF. THIS. IS. RELEVANT. TO THE. DISCUSSION. For the final time: RHETORICAL discussion. If you KNEW God spoke to you (for whatever reason the universe has to offer) than you would KNOW God exists and therefore NOT be an atheist because you would have KNOWN GOD. Rather than offering up a bunch of dogmatic statements against Christianity, why not stick to the discussion?

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