No evidence for the existence of GodPosted 4 years Ago

At 10/15/2016 3:21:08 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/14/2016 10:42:39 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/14/2016 9:36:37 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/14/2016 4:40:57 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/14/2016 5:01:27 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/13/2016 7:27:51 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/13/2016 4:58:45 PM, Willows wrote:
At 10/13/2016 1:11:37 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/12/2016 8:55:01 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/9/2016 10:03:41 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
People who claim that there is no evidence of God either misunderstand what the definition of evidence is, or have never cognized an argument for God's existence.

Crap, there is no evidence for the existence of God.
I know exactly what the word evidence means.
I know of many arguments for God's existence and so far not one of them is valid and not one of them has supplied any viable evidence.
Most theistic arguments tend to evade the question and merely argue about the argument itself in a vain attempt to absolve themselves of providing the evidence.

What is even more ridiculous is that theists stretch this tactic even further by asking for proof of no evidence.

The evidence for the existence of God is us. When we reverse engineer and deconstruct the personality we realize it is a falsehood and we are awakened to our true identity which is one with infinity and eternity. It's a process. God is real but we have to be willing to give up the identity of the personality in order to find out for ourselves.

That is theological rhetoric. To say that we are evidence for the existence of God is a simple ignorance of the facts. We are here, therefore God is so, is a completely redundant and inconclusive argument.

The personality resists the soul at all costs. It tries to rationalize away the truth. Underneath its rationalizing is the fear of what would happen if it were to quit thinking. It would eventually come face to face with what seems like a big black void. That void is part of the emptiness of space that exists inside each and every one of us. It is part of what is infinite and eternal dwelling inside us. It is equivalent to outer space. The personality is like a shell separating the inner space from the outer space. Once we see it's falseness, all that is left is truth. That truth is what is infinite and eternal. We are one with this. Why so much dependency on avoidance of it?

Such metaphors do nothing to prove the existence of God and there is no such thing as a soul. Like the term "mother nature", the word "soul" is a metaphor.

No one is claiming the metaphors are proof. They only point to the truth. You have to experience truth for yourself. Notice how the personality tries to rationalize away reality. If you were to let go of the need for rationalizations you would eventually feel a sense of inner emptiness. Try it for yourself and see what happens. How long can you last without rationalizing and denying? What is underneath the attachment to the thinking mind? It is fear of facing internal emptiness. That inner emptiness is part of what is infinite and eternal. Notice how badly the personality has to avoid it. The intensity of denial is the same intensity it is avoiding the soul. The proof is in your own experience but it takes radical honesty.

Radical honesty? Quite the contrary. You are advocating the swallowing of false hopes and fabrications without question.

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

It's quite simple, you have been indoctrinated to accept nonsense.

Do you admit the mind is avoiding the stillness and silence of what is infinite and eternal? Yes or no?

That's just more nonsensical gibberish. Have you completely lost touch with reality?

It's pretty obvious you are avoiding the issue. Classic symptoms that the personality cannot admit there is a problem and is in denial about it. The personality has built itself up and is too proud to risk being wrong. It has too much to lose so it avoids the soul at all costs. Kind of like what you are doing. What a coincidence.
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No evidence for the existence of GodPosted 4 years Ago

At 10/15/2016 5:31:09 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/14/2016 4:40:57 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/14/2016 5:01:27 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/13/2016 7:27:51 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/13/2016 4:58:45 PM, Willows wrote:
At 10/13/2016 1:11:37 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/12/2016 8:55:01 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/9/2016 10:03:41 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
People who claim that there is no evidence of God either misunderstand what the definition of evidence is, or have never cognized an argument for God's existence.

Crap, there is no evidence for the existence of God.
I know exactly what the word evidence means.
I know of many arguments for God's existence and so far not one of them is valid and not one of them has supplied any viable evidence.
Most theistic arguments tend to evade the question and merely argue about the argument itself in a vain attempt to absolve themselves of providing the evidence.

What is even more ridiculous is that theists stretch this tactic even further by asking for proof of no evidence.

The evidence for the existence of God is us. When we reverse engineer and deconstruct the personality we realize it is a falsehood and we are awakened to our true identity which is one with infinity and eternity. It's a process. God is real but we have to be willing to give up the identity of the personality in order to find out for ourselves.

That is theological rhetoric. To say that we are evidence for the existence of God is a simple ignorance of the facts. We are here, therefore God is so, is a completely redundant and inconclusive argument.

The personality resists the soul at all costs. It tries to rationalize away the truth. Underneath its rationalizing is the fear of what would happen if it were to quit thinking. It would eventually come face to face with what seems like a big black void. That void is part of the emptiness of space that exists inside each and every one of us. It is part of what is infinite and eternal dwelling inside us. It is equivalent to outer space. The personality is like a shell separating the inner space from the outer space. Once we see it's falseness, all that is left is truth. That truth is what is infinite and eternal. We are one with this. Why so much dependency on avoidance of it?

Such metaphors do nothing to prove the existence of God and there is no such thing as a soul. Like the term "mother nature", the word "soul" is a metaphor.

No one is claiming the metaphors are proof. They only point to the truth. You have to experience truth for yourself. Notice how the personality tries to rationalize away reality. If you were to let go of the need for rationalizations you would eventually feel a sense of inner emptiness. Try it for yourself and see what happens. How long can you last without rationalizing and denying? What is underneath the attachment to the thinking mind? It is fear of facing internal emptiness. That inner emptiness is part of what is infinite and eternal. Notice how badly the personality has to avoid it. The intensity of denial is the same intensity it is avoiding the soul. The proof is in your own experience but it takes radical honesty.

Still, you talk in metaphors. You would have to be deluded to think that metaphors point to truth. More often than not, metaphors are a convenient way of dressing up lies.

Metaphors are a playful and useful way to remember stories. This is not the issue at hand. Why the distraction? Notice the personality is buying time to delay coming to terms with the soul because the personality is the anti-thesis of what is eternal and infinite.
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John 3:16, awesome scripture !!!Posted 4 years Ago

At 10/12/2016 7:17:20 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/11/2016 10:28:08 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 10/11/2016 10:14:09 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/11/2016 9:46:43 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 10/11/2016 9:40:21 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/11/2016 9:20:22 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:55:26 PM, graceofgod wrote:
but what does it mean to you??

It means God came as a Jew to save the world. But picked a very bad time to come as a Jew because the Jewish homeland was under Roman occupation. The Jews were expecting a messiah to come to deliver them from the oppressive Roman occupation. But when Jesus showed up without any powers and claimed to be the Jewish Messiah. The Romans laughed, mocked, beat and crucified the Jewish Messiah Jesus. Thus putting an end to any Jewish ambition of overthrowing Roman rule.
God saw the folly of his premature visit as Jesus and vowed he would return with greater powers. But technology and modernization of the human race has delayed his return. His messiah complex is now a treatable mental illness which is giving him second thoughts about pulling another failed stunt.

Jesus came and did exactly what he was meant to do, he took away the curtain, he made a way for us to be saved and no God directly....

Jesus will return when God decrees it, nothing we can do could stop God's timing...

The scriptures say Jesus came to fulfill the prophesies. But he did not fulfill the prophesies. The Jews who know their scriptures better don't believe Jesus fulfilled their scriptures. This is why they rejected him. The Romans ended the debate by crucifying Jesus. So Jesus was not a messiah of anything, but a dead Jewish corpse nailed to a wooden cross.

what prophecies did he not fulfill??
they rejected him because some liked the positions they held and he spoke against them, some zealots thought he was coming as a mighty warrior to fight against the Romans, just because they did not see him for who he was is their error...

Here is why the Jews rejected jesus as their messiah.

What exactly is the Messiah?


The word "Messiah" is an English rendering of the Hebrew word "Mashiach", which means "Anointed." It usually refers to a person initiated into God"s service by being anointed with oil. (Exodus 29:7, I Kings 1:39, II Kings 9:3)
he was anointed with the Holy Spirit, a higher calling...
Since every King and High Priest was anointed with oil, each may be referred to as "an anointed one" (a Mashiach or a Messiah). For example: "God forbid that I [David] should stretch out my hand against the Lord"s Messiah [Saul]..." (I Samuel 26:11. Cf. II Samuel 23:1, Isaiah 45:1, Psalms 20:6)
anointed with the Holy spirit...
Where does the Jewish concept of Messiah come from? One of the central themes of Biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God. (Isaiah 2:1-4; Zephaniah 3:9; Hosea 2:20-22; Amos 9:13-15; Isaiah 32:15-18, 60:15-18; Micah 4:1-4; Zechariah 8:23, 14:9; Jeremiah 31:33-34)
he has brought perfection, everyone in him is made perfect...
Many of these prophetic passages speak of a descendant of King David who will rule Israel during the age of perfection. (Isaiah 11:1-9; Jeremiah 23:5-6, 30:7-10, 33:14-16; Ezekiel 34:11-31, 37:21-28; Hosea 3:4-5)
have you read the genealogies, and his eventual complete reign..
Since every King is a Messiah, by convention, we refer to this future anointed king as The Messiah. The above is the only description in the Bible of a Davidic descendant who is to come in the future. We will recognize the Messiah by seeing who the King of Israel is at the time of complete universal perfection.
he is a king, king of kings, lord of lords//
1) JESUS DID NOT FULFILL THE MESSIANIC PROPHECIES
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What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? The Bible says that he will:

A. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
je rebuilt the temple in the third day when he arose....
B. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
he has gathered all the Jews back to the father, all those who will come...
C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
which he will in the end...
D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world"on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).
which nation has not heard of God, the end will come when every knee shall bow...
The historical fact is that Jesus fulfilled none of these messianic prophecies.
yes he did, just not how people thought he would...
Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming, but Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright, and no concept of a second coming exists.

the second coming is spoken about, the end times are spoken about....

The only problem is that God is eternal and timeless. Why wait and look for something where it cannot be found?
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No evidence for the existence of GodPosted 4 years Ago

At 10/14/2016 9:36:37 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/14/2016 4:40:57 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/14/2016 5:01:27 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/13/2016 7:27:51 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/13/2016 4:58:45 PM, Willows wrote:
At 10/13/2016 1:11:37 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/12/2016 8:55:01 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/9/2016 10:03:41 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
People who claim that there is no evidence of God either misunderstand what the definition of evidence is, or have never cognized an argument for God's existence.

Crap, there is no evidence for the existence of God.
I know exactly what the word evidence means.
I know of many arguments for God's existence and so far not one of them is valid and not one of them has supplied any viable evidence.
Most theistic arguments tend to evade the question and merely argue about the argument itself in a vain attempt to absolve themselves of providing the evidence.

What is even more ridiculous is that theists stretch this tactic even further by asking for proof of no evidence.

The evidence for the existence of God is us. When we reverse engineer and deconstruct the personality we realize it is a falsehood and we are awakened to our true identity which is one with infinity and eternity. It's a process. God is real but we have to be willing to give up the identity of the personality in order to find out for ourselves.

That is theological rhetoric. To say that we are evidence for the existence of God is a simple ignorance of the facts. We are here, therefore God is so, is a completely redundant and inconclusive argument.

The personality resists the soul at all costs. It tries to rationalize away the truth. Underneath its rationalizing is the fear of what would happen if it were to quit thinking. It would eventually come face to face with what seems like a big black void. That void is part of the emptiness of space that exists inside each and every one of us. It is part of what is infinite and eternal dwelling inside us. It is equivalent to outer space. The personality is like a shell separating the inner space from the outer space. Once we see it's falseness, all that is left is truth. That truth is what is infinite and eternal. We are one with this. Why so much dependency on avoidance of it?

Such metaphors do nothing to prove the existence of God and there is no such thing as a soul. Like the term "mother nature", the word "soul" is a metaphor.

No one is claiming the metaphors are proof. They only point to the truth. You have to experience truth for yourself. Notice how the personality tries to rationalize away reality. If you were to let go of the need for rationalizations you would eventually feel a sense of inner emptiness. Try it for yourself and see what happens. How long can you last without rationalizing and denying? What is underneath the attachment to the thinking mind? It is fear of facing internal emptiness. That inner emptiness is part of what is infinite and eternal. Notice how badly the personality has to avoid it. The intensity of denial is the same intensity it is avoiding the soul. The proof is in your own experience but it takes radical honesty.

Radical honesty? Quite the contrary. You are advocating the swallowing of false hopes and fabrications without question.

I don't understand what you're trying to say. Do you admit the mind is avoiding the stillness and silence of what is infinite and eternal? Yes or no?
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No evidence for the existence of GodPosted 4 years Ago

At 10/14/2016 5:01:27 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/13/2016 7:27:51 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/13/2016 4:58:45 PM, Willows wrote:
At 10/13/2016 1:11:37 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/12/2016 8:55:01 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/9/2016 10:03:41 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
People who claim that there is no evidence of God either misunderstand what the definition of evidence is, or have never cognized an argument for God's existence.

Crap, there is no evidence for the existence of God.
I know exactly what the word evidence means.
I know of many arguments for God's existence and so far not one of them is valid and not one of them has supplied any viable evidence.
Most theistic arguments tend to evade the question and merely argue about the argument itself in a vain attempt to absolve themselves of providing the evidence.

What is even more ridiculous is that theists stretch this tactic even further by asking for proof of no evidence.

The evidence for the existence of God is us. When we reverse engineer and deconstruct the personality we realize it is a falsehood and we are awakened to our true identity which is one with infinity and eternity. It's a process. God is real but we have to be willing to give up the identity of the personality in order to find out for ourselves.

That is theological rhetoric. To say that we are evidence for the existence of God is a simple ignorance of the facts. We are here, therefore God is so, is a completely redundant and inconclusive argument.

The personality resists the soul at all costs. It tries to rationalize away the truth. Underneath its rationalizing is the fear of what would happen if it were to quit thinking. It would eventually come face to face with what seems like a big black void. That void is part of the emptiness of space that exists inside each and every one of us. It is part of what is infinite and eternal dwelling inside us. It is equivalent to outer space. The personality is like a shell separating the inner space from the outer space. Once we see it's falseness, all that is left is truth. That truth is what is infinite and eternal. We are one with this. Why so much dependency on avoidance of it?

Such metaphors do nothing to prove the existence of God and there is no such thing as a soul. Like the term "mother nature", the word "soul" is a metaphor.

No one is claiming the metaphors are proof. They only point to the truth. You have to experience truth for yourself. Notice how the personality tries to rationalize away reality. If you were to let go of the need for rationalizations you would eventually feel a sense of inner emptiness. Try it for yourself and see what happens. How long can you last without rationalizing and denying? What is underneath the attachment to the thinking mind? It is fear of facing internal emptiness. That inner emptiness is part of what is infinite and eternal. Notice how badly the personality has to avoid it. The intensity of denial is the same intensity it is avoiding the soul. The proof is in your own experience but it takes radical honesty.
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No evidence for the existence of GodPosted 4 years Ago

At 10/13/2016 4:58:45 PM, Willows wrote:
At 10/13/2016 1:11:37 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/12/2016 8:55:01 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/9/2016 10:03:41 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
People who claim that there is no evidence of God either misunderstand what the definition of evidence is, or have never cognized an argument for God's existence.

Crap, there is no evidence for the existence of God.
I know exactly what the word evidence means.
I know of many arguments for God's existence and so far not one of them is valid and not one of them has supplied any viable evidence.
Most theistic arguments tend to evade the question and merely argue about the argument itself in a vain attempt to absolve themselves of providing the evidence.

What is even more ridiculous is that theists stretch this tactic even further by asking for proof of no evidence.

The evidence for the existence of God is us. When we reverse engineer and deconstruct the personality we realize it is a falsehood and we are awakened to our true identity which is one with infinity and eternity. It's a process. God is real but we have to be willing to give up the identity of the personality in order to find out for ourselves.

That is theological rhetoric. To say that we are evidence for the existence of God is a simple ignorance of the facts. We are here, therefore God is so, is a completely redundant and inconclusive argument.

The personality resists the soul at all costs. It tries to rationalize away the truth. Underneath its rationalizing is the fear of what would happen if it were to quit thinking. It would eventually come face to face with what seems like a big black void. That void is part of the emptiness of space that exists inside each and every one of us. It is part of what is infinite and eternal dwelling inside us. It is equivalent to outer space. The personality is like a shell separating the inner space from the outer space. Once we see it's falseness, all that is left is truth. That truth is what is infinite and eternal. We are one with this. Why so much dependency on avoidance of it?
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No evidence for the existence of GodPosted 4 years Ago

At 10/13/2016 2:51:01 PM, Looncall wrote:
At 10/13/2016 1:11:37 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/12/2016 8:55:01 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/9/2016 10:03:41 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
People who claim that there is no evidence of God either misunderstand what the definition of evidence is, or have never cognized an argument for God's existence.

Crap, there is no evidence for the existence of God.
I know exactly what the word evidence means.
I know of many arguments for God's existence and so far not one of them is valid and not one of them has supplied any viable evidence.
Most theistic arguments tend to evade the question and merely argue about the argument itself in a vain attempt to absolve themselves of providing the evidence.

What is even more ridiculous is that theists stretch this tactic even further by asking for proof of no evidence.

The evidence for the existence of God is us. When we reverse engineer and deconstruct the personality we realize it is a falsehood and we are awakened to our true identity which is one with infinity and eternity. It's a process. God is real but we have to be willing to give up the identity of the personality in order to find out for ourselves.

Word salad, no more.

Why not contribute something a bit more useful next time?
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No evidence for the existence of GodPosted 4 years Ago

At 10/13/2016 1:13:38 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/13/2016 1:02:18 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 11:57:08 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:41:11 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 7:27:23 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/11/2016 6:09:47 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 4:00:27 PM, Looncall wrote:
At 10/11/2016 3:36:17 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 2:19:32 PM, Looncall wrote:
At 10/11/2016 2:32:54 AM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
There is evidence of God. If we look at all the outer space out there on clear night we can have all the evidence we want. God is infinite and eternal. Also, if we practice long and hard enough to still the mind we have an opportunity to feel and know without doubt that we are one with infinite eternity. In fact, doing so is necessary for the well-being of, not only ourselves, but the rest of humanity and its future.

How does looking at the sky give evidence for god(s)? Please show your work.

As for the rest, it's clearly all in your head, and not at all convincing.

Simple. God is infinite. Is space not infinite? The little space you can see is a tiny fragment of God. God is eternal. Do you suppose that space is going to evaporate or disappear any time soon? It is timelessness in itself. The personality needs convincing because it's existence is always dependent on something. it is an imitation of the true identity of the soul which is unconditional liberation and freedom.

As far as anyone knows at present, space is not infinite.

Please provide evidence that the "soul" notion is not just an ancient error of thinking, akin to asking where the fire goes when the fuel runs out.

It would be pretty na"ve to think space is NOT infinite.

The universe, which includes space, is finite, but it is boundless, but that doesn't mean it's infinite.

You ARE the evidence that the soul is real.

No, we are the evidence for evolution, souls have never been shown to exist, they are a myth.

We would not be alive if were not for the soul because it is life in and of itself.

Baloney. If that were the case, the soul would be part of every medical book on the planet. We would know it exists because there would be hard evidence of its existence.

Realizing this is a matter of reverse engineering the personality. We were very close to the soul when we were children. During the transition to adulthood we adopted an identity from the collective identity (parents, peers, authority figures). This adopted develops and we take it to be all of who and what we are. The truth is we are infinite. We can test this theory by practicing stillness of the mind and its desire to hold on to thoughts and beliefs. This expands our awareness and we have the chance to actually become one with infinity. Our self-worth is tied into this.

That sounds like a lot of new age nonsense. Do you actually have any evidence to offer for your claims?

Well what is your definition of infinite?

limitless or endless in space, extent, or size; impossible to measure or calculate.
"the infinite mercy of God"

synonyms: BOUNDLESS, unbounded, unlimited, limitless, never-ending, interminable;

The universe is boundless, but finite in matter/energy and space. The idea of it being boundless is that it is expanding. If it stopped expanding, it would no longer be boundless.

How can the universe be finite in space if it is boundless?

Space is simply the distance between two objects, obviously that can't be infinite. For those objects (matter/energy) to be boundless, that would mean they are all still moving away from each other, thus increasing the space/distance between them, which is what we observe. It appears they will be continue to do that forever, hence boundless.

I understand matter and energy are finite but space is not. I'm not trying to get too technical here because we are approaching ultimate mysteries. All I'm saying is that a few good basic concepts we can use to approximate God are infinite and eternal.

All you're doing is applying abstract terms to something that has never been shown to exist, hence it's just in your head and is meaningless in reality.

The soul is a miraculous state of unshakeable unity, wholeness, oneness. There is no relativism. Let's not confuse the space I am talking about here. I'm talking about outer space independent of distance between two objects. We usually think about the objects IN space but rarely we do think about space in and of itself. The way to prove that God exists is by slowly peeling back everything that doesn't exist. We see what's real by looking deeply into what is false, the personality of which is the final and most tenacious frontier.
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No evidence for the existence of GodPosted 4 years Ago

At 10/11/2016 7:27:23 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/11/2016 6:09:47 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 4:00:27 PM, Looncall wrote:
At 10/11/2016 3:36:17 PM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 2:19:32 PM, Looncall wrote:
At 10/11/2016 2:32:54 AM, PrizeBeatz1 wrote:
There is evidence of God. If we look at all the outer space out there on clear night we can have all the evidence we want. God is infinite and eternal. Also, if we practice long and hard enough to still the mind we have an opportunity to feel and know without doubt that we are one with infinite eternity. In fact, doing so is necessary for the well-being of, not only ourselves, but the rest of humanity and its future.

How does looking at the sky give evidence for god(s)? Please show your work.

As for the rest, it's clearly all in your head, and not at all convincing.

Simple. God is infinite. Is space not infinite? The little space you can see is a tiny fragment of God. God is eternal. Do you suppose that space is going to evaporate or disappear any time soon? It is timelessness in itself. The personality needs convincing because it's existence is always dependent on something. it is an imitation of the true identity of the soul which is unconditional liberation and freedom.

As far as anyone knows at present, space is not infinite.

Please provide evidence that the "soul" notion is not just an ancient error of thinking, akin to asking where the fire goes when the fuel runs out.

It would be pretty na"ve to think space is NOT infinite.

The universe, which includes space, is finite, but it is boundless, but that doesn't mean it's infinite.

You ARE the evidence that the soul is real.

No, we are the evidence for evolution, souls have never been shown to exist, they are a myth.

We would not be alive if were not for the soul because it is life in and of itself.

Baloney. If that were the case, the soul would be part of every medical book on the planet. We would know it exists because there would be hard evidence of its existence.

Realizing this is a matter of reverse engineering the personality. We were very close to the soul when we were children. During the transition to adulthood we adopted an identity from the collective identity (parents, peers, authority figures). This adopted develops and we take it to be all of who and what we are. The truth is we are infinite. We can test this theory by practicing stillness of the mind and its desire to hold on to thoughts and beliefs. This expands our awareness and we have the chance to actually become one with infinity. Our self-worth is tied into this.

That sounds like a lot of new age nonsense. Do you actually have any evidence to offer for your claims?

The only bounds are in your mind. They are not real but made up, like time, international borders and the belief that money actually has value. Such beliefs come from the collective identity and their strength depends on collective agreement.

The soul is not a myth. The personality is. We can reverse engineer the personality and see it is an imitation of something much, much bigger. For example, the personality emulates self-worth by fixating on beliefs, thoughts, the mind and time, anything that will reinforce its identity. It is running away from what is infinite and eternal and doesn't know it is unconsciously fighting a war against God.

One of the overlooked morals to the story of Jesus Christ is the rejection and burial. Science doesn't want any part of the soul. Religion doesn't either. It is the cornerstone the builders rejected. It is misunderstood and the scriptures are misinterpreted as literal when they are actually pointing to the soul. It is no in the Trinity and institutions would rather adopt something more palatable to the masses because the soul is not as profitable as the literal, for example.

The hard evidence comes through spiritual awakening when we do the work of stepping out into the deep unknown in the face of losing our identity. It is disturbing because there is nothing to hold onto. It takes, patience, practice and love for the truth at all costs. One must give up their instinct for survival. Sure it sounds like nonsense. It's totally backwards, upside down and counter-intuitive. The wisdom of God is foolishness to men.
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No evidence for the existence of GodPosted 4 years Ago

At 10/12/2016 8:55:01 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/9/2016 10:03:41 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
People who claim that there is no evidence of God either misunderstand what the definition of evidence is, or have never cognized an argument for God's existence.

Crap, there is no evidence for the existence of God.
I know exactly what the word evidence means.
I know of many arguments for God's existence and so far not one of them is valid and not one of them has supplied any viable evidence.
Most theistic arguments tend to evade the question and merely argue about the argument itself in a vain attempt to absolve themselves of providing the evidence.

What is even more ridiculous is that theists stretch this tactic even further by asking for proof of no evidence.

The evidence for the existence of God is us. When we reverse engineer and deconstruct the personality we realize it is a falsehood and we are awakened to our true identity which is one with infinity and eternity. It's a process. God is real but we have to be willing to give up the identity of the personality in order to find out for ourselves.
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