We should eradicate religionPosted 5 years Ago

At 11/15/2015 5:08:19 AM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/15/2015 5:03:00 AM, armogeden wrote:
At 11/15/2015 4:55:31 AM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/15/2015 3:57:28 AM, armogeden wrote:
At 11/14/2015 10:02:34 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/14/2015 9:44:53 PM, armogeden wrote:
At 11/7/2015 11:32:36 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/7/2015 10:32:20 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/7/2015 9:44:03 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/7/2015 8:54:29 PM, desmac wrote:
At 11/7/2015 7:43:56 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/7/2015 4:29:53 PM, desmac wrote:
At 11/7/2015 4:21:53 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/7/2015 8:17:52 AM, smelisox wrote:
There's just no place for religion in a progressive, modern society.

Based on what? Religion has brought us hospitals, the university system, and the scientific method.

So it has outlived whatever slight usefulness it may have had.

Or it brings comfort and peace to billions.

By flying planes into skyscrapers.

No, by feeding the hungry, comforting the sick, clothing the naked, and visiting the infirmed.

What does religion have to do with any of that?

Many followers of Jesus Christ are inspired by their religion to do such activities.

I am inspired by human decency to those things. Charity is defined as an organization set up to provide help for those in need. I feel inspired to help people and I do not want nor need the reward of heaven to do so or the threat of eternal torture after death for not doing so.
Where in the definition of charity does it state anything to do with religion?
It is also quite amusing to see theist immediately jump to the '...But we do charity work.' excuse as if it is some kind of get out of jail free card that excuses them of the atrocities they have committed and are still committing around they world.

To answer your question, since Jesus prescribed it, charity is ALSO a religious concept along with a secular one.

The difference being that most secularists aren't in it for the rewards.

Regardless of motivation, this is evidence that, unlike the subject of this thread suggests... religion should NOT be eradicated.

What is religion's use to society if people can be good without it? I am actually confused about this so please answer seriously.

Extra motivation. And we would argue that God has placed the desire to do good in everyone, so it could be argued that you can't do good without religion/GOD.

Because without religion I would be murdering people? Because without religion parents would lose their innate want to protect their offspring? This can all be explained with evolution.
A species would not survive if members of that species did not protect each other or care for each other, of course their will always be 'bad eggs' but religion or lack of religion does not change that. But it seems prominent though out history that religion has divided the human race rather than united it.
As for your point ' it could be argued that you can't do good without religion/GOD.' I have no religion therefore I am doing it without religion. As for God, what god? Zeus, Aizen-Myoo, Odin ect.?
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We should eradicate religionPosted 5 years Ago

At 11/15/2015 4:55:31 AM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/15/2015 3:57:28 AM, armogeden wrote:
At 11/14/2015 10:02:34 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/14/2015 9:44:53 PM, armogeden wrote:
At 11/7/2015 11:32:36 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/7/2015 10:32:20 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/7/2015 9:44:03 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/7/2015 8:54:29 PM, desmac wrote:
At 11/7/2015 7:43:56 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/7/2015 4:29:53 PM, desmac wrote:
At 11/7/2015 4:21:53 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/7/2015 8:17:52 AM, smelisox wrote:
There's just no place for religion in a progressive, modern society.

Based on what? Religion has brought us hospitals, the university system, and the scientific method.

So it has outlived whatever slight usefulness it may have had.

Or it brings comfort and peace to billions.

By flying planes into skyscrapers.

No, by feeding the hungry, comforting the sick, clothing the naked, and visiting the infirmed.

What does religion have to do with any of that?

Many followers of Jesus Christ are inspired by their religion to do such activities.

I am inspired by human decency to those things. Charity is defined as an organization set up to provide help for those in need. I feel inspired to help people and I do not want nor need the reward of heaven to do so or the threat of eternal torture after death for not doing so.
Where in the definition of charity does it state anything to do with religion?
It is also quite amusing to see theist immediately jump to the '...But we do charity work.' excuse as if it is some kind of get out of jail free card that excuses them of the atrocities they have committed and are still committing around they world.

To answer your question, since Jesus prescribed it, charity is ALSO a religious concept along with a secular one.

The difference being that most secularists aren't in it for the rewards.

Regardless of motivation, this is evidence that, unlike the subject of this thread suggests... religion should NOT be eradicated.

What is religion's use to society if people can be good without it? I am actually confused about this so please answer seriously.
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We should eradicate religionPosted 5 years Ago

At 11/14/2015 10:02:34 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/14/2015 9:44:53 PM, armogeden wrote:
At 11/7/2015 11:32:36 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/7/2015 10:32:20 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/7/2015 9:44:03 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/7/2015 8:54:29 PM, desmac wrote:
At 11/7/2015 7:43:56 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/7/2015 4:29:53 PM, desmac wrote:
At 11/7/2015 4:21:53 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/7/2015 8:17:52 AM, smelisox wrote:
There's just no place for religion in a progressive, modern society.

Based on what? Religion has brought us hospitals, the university system, and the scientific method.

So it has outlived whatever slight usefulness it may have had.

Or it brings comfort and peace to billions.

By flying planes into skyscrapers.

No, by feeding the hungry, comforting the sick, clothing the naked, and visiting the infirmed.

What does religion have to do with any of that?

Many followers of Jesus Christ are inspired by their religion to do such activities.

I am inspired by human decency to those things. Charity is defined as an organization set up to provide help for those in need. I feel inspired to help people and I do not want nor need the reward of heaven to do so or the threat of eternal torture after death for not doing so.
Where in the definition of charity does it state anything to do with religion?
It is also quite amusing to see theist immediately jump to the '...But we do charity work.' excuse as if it is some kind of get out of jail free card that excuses them of the atrocities they have committed and are still committing around they world.

To answer your question, since Jesus prescribed it, charity is ALSO a religious concept along with a secular one.

The difference being that most secularists aren't in it for the rewards.
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We should eradicate religionPosted 5 years Ago

At 11/10/2015 4:34:43 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/10/2015 4:03:20 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/10/2015 3:54:59 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/9/2015 7:29:12 AM, desmac wrote:
At 11/8/2015 10:33:06 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/8/2015 10:17:16 AM, desmac wrote:
At 11/8/2015 2:55:48 AM, Harikrish wrote:
If religion was so bad, how is it that atheists have higher rates of suicide?

http://www.adherents.com...

According to a recent study published in The American Journal of Psychiatry religious affiliation is associated with significantly lower levels of suicide compared to religiously unaffiliated people, atheists and agnostics. Source: Kanita Dervic, Maria A. Oquendo, Michael F. Grunebaum, Steve Ellis, Ainsley K. Burke, and J. John Mann. "Religious Affiliation and Suicide Attempt" (161:2303-2308, December 2004).
Full article online: http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org...

Please supply the suicide figures for atheists and religionists.

It is given in one of the links. You need to read the links provided.

The link to Adherents (a religious site) contains no such figures. The link to the American Journal of Psychiatry states "Page not found"

Would you please re-post the link?

You don't read too good. This was taken from the Adherent site.

"In 2002 the American Journal of Epidemiology published a study by Dr. Sterling C. Hilton showing that active Latter-day Saints are 7 times less likely to commit suicide than their surrounding peer population. (See: "High Religious Commitment Linked to Less Suicide", describing the study from American Journal of Epidemiology)."

LDS are 7 times less likely to commit suicide than the general US population of non religious affiliated or atheists for short. Correlate that with total suicide rates 41,000 completed and over 500,000 attempted suicides and you get 35,000 (7 to 1) atheists suicudes and 420,000 attempted suicudes.by the same non religious affiliated group of atheists.

Something needs to be done about that, after all, they are no benefit to society and are dead keen on getting to heaven, so we need to convince them that it would help them and society simultaneously and is therefore the best they can do for their fellow man and their god and in the end themselves.

Suicide or self termination is forbidden in most religions. But atheists do not have the same restrictions. Atheists choose to self terminate not because they are looking forward to entering heaven. They self terminate because they want to escape the miserable hell they created for themselves. When atheists leave DDO for short periods of time, they are calling timeout to contemplate self termination and their options. Most delay the decision and return more vitriolic than before. Some are banned to force them to contemplate by the moderators. You are one such example.

If these statistics are true then it is probably because they have to share a planet with people like you.
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We should eradicate religionPosted 5 years Ago

At 11/7/2015 11:32:36 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/7/2015 10:32:20 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/7/2015 9:44:03 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/7/2015 8:54:29 PM, desmac wrote:
At 11/7/2015 7:43:56 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/7/2015 4:29:53 PM, desmac wrote:
At 11/7/2015 4:21:53 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 11/7/2015 8:17:52 AM, smelisox wrote:
There's just no place for religion in a progressive, modern society.

Based on what? Religion has brought us hospitals, the university system, and the scientific method.

So it has outlived whatever slight usefulness it may have had.

Or it brings comfort and peace to billions.

By flying planes into skyscrapers.

No, by feeding the hungry, comforting the sick, clothing the naked, and visiting the infirmed.

What does religion have to do with any of that?

Many followers of Jesus Christ are inspired by their religion to do such activities.

I am inspired by human decency to those things. Charity is defined as an organization set up to provide help for those in need. I feel inspired to help people and I do not want nor need the reward of heaven to do so or the threat of eternal torture after death for not doing so.
Where in the definition of charity does it state anything to do with religion?
It is also quite amusing to see theist immediately jump to the '...But we do charity work.' excuse as if it is some kind of get out of jail free card that excuses them of the atrocities they have committed and are still committing around they world.
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