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# 2 + 2 does not equal 4

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 Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point Started: 7/30/2013 Category: Miscellaneous Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period Viewed: 1,894 times Debate No: 36175
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 Pro First round is for acceptance :)Report this Argument Con I accept.Report this Argument Pro 'Believe it or not, sometimes 2 + 2 does not equal 4. It depends on what type of measurement scale you are using. There are four types of measurement scales– nominal, ordinal, interval, and ratio. Only in the last two categories does 2 + 2 = 4. Let me explain. All the nominal scale does is name or classify. Each number merely represents a category or individual. For example, numbers on baseball or football uniforms are only nominal. Having the number "1" on your uniform does not necessarily mean you are "numero uno" (the best) in your sport. Social security numbers are also nominal. All they do is name or classify the individual. The ordinal scale has all the qualities of the nominal scale plus the ability to rank objects according to some attribute. If you ranked all the members of a group according to height, "1" would be the tallest, "2" the second tallest and so on. However, the intervals between these rankings are not necessarily equal.If the tallest people were 5'11", 5'8" and 5'7", respectively, the interval between the first two ranks would be 3 inches, while the interval between the last two is only 1 inch. Ranking in various sports and beauty contests are also only ordinal scales. An interval scale combines the qualities of the previous scales with equal intervals. The best example would be a centigrade (Celcius) thermometer. The change in heat between 0oC and 10oC is the same as between 10oC and 20oC. But watch out! 20oC is not twice as hot as 10oC! Why? Interval scales havearbitrary zeros (just because we decided to call it zero), rather than absolute (true) zeros. At 0oC water freezes, but that does not mean that there is no heat. In contrast, the ratio scale has all the qualities of the previous scales plus an absolute (true) zero, as with a Kelvin thermometer. At 0oK, theoretically there isno heat. You have nothing of what you are measuring, therefore the zero is true or absolute.'SOURCE: Since 2 + 2 sometimes does not = 4, then it would be wrong to say that you are against the notion that 2 + 2 does not equal 4. Report this Argument Con To begin, if you follow the link, you can clearly see that Pro plagiarized his whole argument. That being said, let's continue the the rebuttal.Rebuttal:Let me remind you of the resolution: "2 + 2 does not equal 4." However, Pro states: "Only in the last two categories does 2 + 2 = 4." It seems Pro is contradicting himself with the resolution. He admits that 2 + 2 can equal 4. However, in the resolution, Pro agrees with the statement: "2 + 2 does not equal 4." Pro is trying to manipulate his original stance on the argument.Pro also states: "Since 2 + 2 sometimes does not = 4, then it would be wrong to say that you are against the notion that 2 + 2 does not equal 4." Pro's logic is flawed. Once again, he is trying to manipulate his stance on the resolution. However, his manipulation works against him as well. I may very well say: since 2 + 2 sometimes equals 4, the it would be wrong to say that you are for the notion 2 + 2 does not equal 4. Therefore, Pro's argument is invalid.Argument:I will prove that 2 + 2 = 4. IIf you have 2 apples, and I have 2 apples, and I give you my 2 apples, you then have 4 apples. There is a physical example. Now let's give you a mathematical example:1 + 1 = 21 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 4(1 + 1) + (1 + 1) = 4(2) + (2) = 42 + 2 = 4Therefore, 2 + 2 equals 4.Vote Con.Report this Argument
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Posted by Benshapiro 5 years ago
I think this is the biggest landslide loss in the history of this website. Do I get a hall of shame award?
Posted by donald.keller 5 years ago
Pro would have won if he had set the Resolution to "2 + 2 does not allows equal 4"
Posted by TheEpicMinecrafter 5 years ago
The answer is a heart. ;)
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