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Topaet
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frankfurter50
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A vegetarian diet is to be preferred over an omnivorous diet

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Started: 7/7/2018 Category: Philosophy
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Topaet

Pro

This debate will be about whether a well-balanced vegetarian diet is generally to be preferred over a well-balanced omnivorous diet. Therefore, arguments about nutrient deficiencies will be excluded unless Con can show that even a well-balanced vegetarian diet leads to nutrient deficiencies.

Additionally, no further arguments are to be made in Con’s final round as rebutting these is impossible.


Definitions:

Vegetarian diet: A diet that excludes meat.

Omnivorous diet: A diet that includes a variety of meat and dairy foods as well as plants. [1]

Thank you for accepting/reading the debate and have fun!

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frankfurter50

Con

I accept, absolutely, Sir.

A vegetarian diet is not to be preferred over an Omnivorous diet. Meat contains certain ingredients which simply cannot be found in a stick of celery. In addition, the two dominant protein substitutes- nuts and beans- taste like garbage. In addition, vegetarian human diets are not even natural. cavemen ate meat, and did not flinch at the concept of devouring animal flesh. Why torture yourself? One cannot subsist on legumes alone. Meat is best.

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Debate Round No. 1
Topaet

Pro

Response to your round 1:
You are committing an Argumentum ad Naturam fallacy because you are arguing that a vegetarian diet is bad as it is "not even natural".
You are committing a Strawman Fallacy because you are vastly distorting, exaggerating and misrepresenting my view. I clearly stated that this debate will be about a whether "a well-balanced vegetarian diet is generally to be preferred over a well-balanced omnivorous diet." therefore your claims that "Meat contains certain ingredients which simply cannot be found in a stick of celery." and "One cannot subsist on legumes alone." are irrelevant and misrepresenting my view as I've never claimed that a celery-only or legume-only diet are to be preferred over an omnivorous diet.
Furthermore, it is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets are healthful and nutritionally adequate [14].

My first round:
In this debate, I will be arguing that a vegetarian diet is to be preferred over an omnivorous diet as it is healthier, has a less significant negative impact on the environment and reduces the suffering and death of sentient lifeforms.
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A vegetarian diet is healthier than an omnivorous diet:
In a 1988 report, it was found that there is a significant positive association between meat consumption and mortality because of all causes of death combined, coronary heart disease, and diabetes. [1]

In another 2007 study, it was found that there is a significant positive association between red and processed meat intake and risk of cancer of the colon and rectum, esophagus, liver, lung, and pancreas [2].

In a 2003 meta-analysis, it was concluded that long-term (≥ 2 decades) adherence to a vegetarian diet can lead to a significant 3.6-year increase in life expectancy [3].

As it can reasonably be assumed that everyone would generally prefer not to have cancer in one’s rectum (or anywhere else), cardiovascular disease, and diabetes, it can be concluded that a vegetarian diet is to be preferred over an omnivorous diet as it is generally healthier, leads to a higher life expectancy and reduces one’s chances of getting cancer in one’s rectum.
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A vegetarian diet has a less significant negative impact on the environment:
According to a 2017 study, livestock farming is responsible for at least 14.5% of greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions and is estimated to be responsible for at least 51% of global GHG emissions “based on the most complete and comprehensive analysis of all factors associated with livestock products (including emissions from the animals themselves and lost carbon sequestration from land clearing for feed production) estimates the sector's contribution to be at least 51 per cent of total global GHG emissions” [4],[5]. It is important to note, however, that even 14.5% is more than emissions from all transport combined [6].

The chairman of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Dr Rajendra Pachauri, has described eating less meat as "the most attractive opportunity" for making immediate positive changes to climate change [7].

As it can reasonably be assumed that people generally have no intention of harming the environment and would prefer having a less significant influence on climate change, it can be concluded that a vegetarian diet is to be preferred over an omnivorous diet.

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A vegetarian diet reduces the suffering and deaths of sentient lifeforms:
In the same way that it is immoral to torture a cat (or any other animal) for the sake of viewing pleasure, it is immoral to eat a cat (or any other animal) for the sake of tasting its flesh. [16]

Mylan Engel’s argument against eating meat [15]:
(p1) Other things being equal, a world with less pain and suffering is better than a world with more pain and suffering.
(p2) A world with less unnecessary suffering (suffering which serves no greater, outweighing justifying good) is better than a world with more unnecessary suffering.
(p3) Even a minimally decent person (a person who does the very minimum required by morality and no more) would take steps to help reduce the amount of unnecessary pain and suffering in the world, if they could do so with very little effort.
(p4) Many nonhuman animals (certainly all vertebrates) are capable of feeling pain [9].
(p5) Animals in the meat industry are suffering [10],[11],[12],[13].
(p6) Refraining from eating meat and eating something else instead requires very little effort [14].
(c) We ought to stop purchasing and consuming meat.

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Overall, it can be concluded that a vegetarian diet is to be preferred over an omnivorous diet as it is generally healthier, better for the environment and because the extended suffering animals endure outweigh the short pleasure of eating meat.
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[2]: Genkinger JM, Koushik A (2007) Meat Consumption and Cancer Risk. PLoS Med 4(12): e345. https://doi.org...
[3]: Singh PN, Sabate J, Fraser GE. Does low meat consumption increase life expectancy in humans? Am J Clin Nutr. 2003 Sep;78(3 Suppl):526S-32S.
[4]: Bogueva, Diana & Marinova, Dora & Raphaely, Talia. (2017). Reducing meat consumption: the case for social marketing. Asia Pacific Journal of Marketing and Logistics. 29. 10.1108/APJML-08-2016-0139.
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[6]: Ipcc.ch. (2018). [online] Available at: https://www.ipcc.ch... [Accessed 8 Jul. 2018].
[7]: Dr. Rajendra Pachauri. Chair of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Lecture: ‘Global Warning - The impact of meat production and consumption on climate change’. September 2008
[8]: Doug Gurian-Sherman, "CAFOs Uncovered: The Untold Costs of Confined Animal Feeding Operations" (5.6 MB) , www.ucsusa.org, Apr. 2008
[9]: National Research Council (US) Committee on Recognition and Alleviation of Pain in Laboratory Animals. Recognition and Alleviation of Pain in Laboratory Animals. Washington (DC): National Academies Press (US); 2009. 1, Pain in Research Animals: General Principles and Considerations. Available from: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
[10]: Joby Warrick, "They Die Piece by Piece: In Overtaxed Plants, Humane Treatment of Cattle Is Often a Battle Lost," Washington Post, Apr. 10, 2001
[11]: Pew Commission on Industrial Farm Animal Production, "Putting Meat on the Table: Industrial Farm Animal Production in America" (7.2 MB) , www.ncifap.org, Apr. 28, 2008
[12]: Humane Society of the United States, "Undercover at Smithfield Foods" (467 KB) , www.humanesociety.org (accessed Jan. 17, 2011)
[13]: Farm Sanctuary, "The Welfare of Cattle in Beef Production" (700 KB) , www.farmsanctuary.org (accessed Jan. 17, 2011)
[14]: Craig WJ, Mangels AR; American Dietetic Association. Position of the American
Dietetic Association: vegetarian diets. J Am Diet Assoc. 2009 Jul;109(7):1266-82.
PubMed PMID: 19562864.
[15]: Engel Jr, Mylan (2000). The Immorality of Eating Meat. _Chapter in The Moral Life_:856-889. https://philpapers.org...
[16]: 2. Rationalwiki.org. (2018). Essay:Why You Shouldn't Eat Meat - RationalWiki. [online] Available at: https://rationalwik
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Posted by zhaod1 3 years ago
zhaod1
People eat too much meat nowadays, That's why vegetarians are healthier. If meat consumption is balanced, It is actually healthier than a vegetarian diet.
Posted by asta 3 years ago
asta
Pro is right.
Posted by canis 3 years ago
canis
"Is to be preferred".. Makes no sense.. Well only in a non existing "preferred" sence..
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