The Instigator
ConservativeBen
Con (against)
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Kent_Hovind
Pro (for)

Abortion

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Started: 8/10/2018 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Debating Period
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ConservativeBen

Con

I believe abortion is murder in all cases including rape, Incest, And the in the life of the mother. I believe life begins at conception. The baby's life at week one is worth the same as the life at month 9. Millions of babies are killed pre-birth due to the decision of Roe vs. Wade and abortion facilities all across the United States such as Planned Parenthood. I believe Roe vs. Wade should be overturned and Planned Parenthood should be defunded by the US government. The abortion procedure is despicable and inhumane. I stand against the crushing of skulls, The removal of limbs, And the selling of the aborted babys' organs. On a religious point of view, I believe God wanted mothers to die for their babies, Not their babies die for them.
Kent_Hovind

Pro

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Posted by okuuuuuur 3 years ago
okuuuuuur
I don't believe abortion is ethical under any circumstance, Except for when the mother's life is in danger, Because of course the mother comes first in that particular scenario, Nobody is going like`if one goes down then both must go down! `, That is simply not rational thinking in any way. But, In the case of rape, For example, I don't believe the child in the womb should receive the death penalty for the crimes of the father. The rapist should be tracked down, He should be held at the full extent of the law and killed or castrated, And as for the mother, She should be given all the support that she can possibly be given to help her throughout her pregnancy, Through state funded services and charities, Not planned parenthood! If you had ever encountered the child of a rape victim or a woman who carried through with her pregnancy after suffering the horrible injustice of rape, You would come to realise that having the child is not as awful as it is made out to be, That actually your very own unique child might help you through the pain of the past. All governments should stop funding baby genocidal organisations like planned parenthood and start funding services to actually support women through pregnancies and make their difficult situations pleasant and make them feel like they are cared about. Abortion does not unrape you or make you unpregnant, It just makes you the parent of a deceased child. You cannot solve one violent act by another violent act.
Posted by thatbean 3 years ago
thatbean
And what of child rape victims that are able to get pregnant? A 12-18 year old does not possess the emotional or mental stability (or even physical, For that matter) to raise a child, Which is why they cannot adopt. So if a person in this age range cannot adopt, Why is it perfectly okay for them to go through a pregnancy that will scar them emotionally/mentally and raise a child in a way that may be less than okay? You argue for the living rights of a fetus, But what of all of the children that sit in households with abusive or neglectful parents because they weren't ready for a baby? What of all the children that starve and go hungry because their parents were forced to go through with a pregnancy despite not being able to afford it? What of the women that know the growing fetus in them is no longer growing because a complication occurred, And when they go through the pain of giving birth will hold a dead fetus that could have grown into an actual living baby in their arms, While risking complications that could leave her dead as well? If you can go ahead and put a fetus that is not yet a life before any of these people that are already living and have been living for so long, You need to reevaluate your view on abortion. Is it really the children you're concerned for, When you are doing nothing to help currently living children have better lives, Or are you more concerned with a woman serving her supposed duty to carry and give birth to a child?
Posted by thatbean 3 years ago
thatbean
In the case of rape? That's quite a bold thing to say. Rape is forced sex, In case you needed a definition. To say that a woman has to go through the pain of raising a child that was forced upon her for 18 years, With the risk that this is emotionally and mentally abusive to both the mother and child due to the circumstances, Is a terrible thing to say. What if you were the one carrying a fetus in your womb for nine months, Dealing with a pregnancy you are not emotionally prepared for, In consensual want of, Or just not ready for? You argue that a fetus deserves full human rights, And therefore all of the materials inside the woman's body that they occupy. You are telling a woman that she has to sacrifice her body. You are saying that a fetus, Which is not a fully grown baby or human in anyway for a very long time, Has more rights than she does. The "right to live" does not imply the right to use somebody else's body to sustain life. Furthermore, Planned Parenthood is a non-profit organization that provides reproductive health care to women. Only 3% of everything they do represents abortions. Abortion banning violates a woman's right to her own body and in which way she controls that body. Did you know that abortions are actually quite safe, As they are done by professionals? Banning abortion won't make it go away; it will only make it less safe due to illegal abortions, Just like banning drugs and alcohol doesn't mean people stop doing them. Carrying a pregnancy to term (and even if you are giving it up for adoption) is still very dangerous to the physical, Mental, And emotional state of a woman. Your morals don't control other people's lives, And you can't decide what's right for them, Especially so when you haven't a clue of what they've gone through. If you can't carry a child, Why do you have the right to tell a woman when and where to do so?
Posted by asta 3 years ago
asta
@Con

Although I'm pro life, Your less likely to convince others if you use religious arguments. This makes you look like a theocrat.
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