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FanboyMctroll
Pro (for)
The Contender
bfritts5
Con (against)

All guns should be BANNED in America!!!

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/22/2018 Category: Society
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Debating Period
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FanboyMctroll

Pro

Virginia Tech
Columbine
Sandy Hook
Orlando Nightclub
Aurora movie Theater
San Bernardino
Las Vegas
Douglas High School
Sutherland Springs Church shooting
Fort Hood shooting
Washington Navy yard shooting
Umpgua College shooting
March 2018 shooting ___________________________________
April 2018 shooting ___________________________________
May 2018 shooting ___________________________________
June 2018 shooting __________________________________
July 2018 shooting __________________________________

You fill in the locations for the next shootings or just wait until they happen.

Thank you NRA and all gun supporters, without you we wouldn't have all these killings!!!

WHEN IS AMERICA GOING TO WAKE UP AND SAY ENOUGH WITH THE GUNS???
BAN ALL GUNS PERIOD!!!
bfritts5

Con

guns should not be banned it is in our constitution so
Debate Round No. 1
FanboyMctroll

Pro

The constitution will be amended in the future once enough victims of gun violence come forward. The second amendment needs to disappear, the constitution was written 300 years ago, we have evolved since then, there is no savage land with the wild west. Billy the Kid and Jessie James aren't riding into town with one sheriff. The Indians aren't riding into a town to scalp people. We have modern law enforcement now.

There is no need to own guns, especially machines guns like the AR-15, who needs a machine gun, this is a weapon of war not defense, and with the current track record of killings sooner or later the victims will outgrow the gun owners and then the tide will change. The last ones remaining will be the sovern militia type nut jobs, and I'm volunteering to take them out myself with a SWAT team.

Guns will be banned right after the 2nd amendment is taken out of the constitution

First I need all school students across America to march on Capitol Hill and have the NRA deemed a terrorist organization.
bfritts5

Con

(2015 stats)

Murder Victims by weapons
Rifles: 252
Knives:1,544
Blunt Objects: 437
Bare hands/ feet: 624
Car crashes: 40,000
Car crashes under the influence:10,265

All these people are dying from being under the influence... maybe we should just ban cars for sober people too maybe thats the problem

We have a mental health problem in America... Not a gun Problem
Debate Round No. 2
FanboyMctroll

Pro

USA has way more gun deaths than other developed nations, and it has far more guns than any other country in the world.

The US has nearly six times the gun homicide rate of Canada, more than seven times that of Sweden, and nearly 16 times that of Germany

The US makes up less than 5% of the world"s population, but holds 31% of global mass shooters

The US also has by far the highest number of privately owned guns in the world. Estimated in 2007, the number of civilian-owned firearms in the US was 88.8 guns per 100 people, meaning there was almost one privately owned gun per American and more than one per American adult. The world"s second-ranked country was Yemen, a quasi-failed state torn by civil war, where there were 54.8 guns per 100 people.

Americans make up less than 5 percent of the world"s population yet own roughly 42 percent of all the world"s privately held firearms

For example, a 2013 study, led by a Boston University School of Public Health researcher, found that, after controlling for multiple variables, a 1 percent increase in gun ownership correlated with a roughly 0.9 percent rise in the firearm homicide rate at the state level.

Guns are not the only contributor to violence. (Other factors include, for example, poverty, urbanization, and alcohol consumption.) But when researchers control for other confounding variables, they have found time and time again that America"s high levels of gun ownership are a major reason the US is so much worse in terms of gun violence than its developed peers

Only 52 out of the last 235 killers , or about 22 percent, had mental illnesses. "The mentally ill should not bear the burden of being regarded as the "chief" perpetrators of mass murder. Instead, the US appears to have more lethal violence " and that"s driven in large part by the prevalence of guns.

Assaults in the USA are on average 3 times more likely to involve guns, not cars or knives or other weapons but GUNS!!

if you look to Chicago, where you had over 4,000 victims of gun-related crimes last year, they have the strictest gun laws in the country, therefore gun laws and restrictions do not work, we need to ban the guns completely

A gun only has one purpose, and that is to kill people, a car is used for driving, a knife is used for cutting and you can use the excuse that a piece of pvc pipe can be a lethal weapon or a brick, so we should stop using bricks for homes because they can kill. You argument is weak. Guns serve one purpose only and that is to kill, if we ban guns and eliminate them completely, we would not have gun deaths like we do now.

Fanboy out (mic drop)
bfritts5

Con

I think we are far too late in banning guns. Do you think just because we are going to ban guns, criminals will just go away? And now, everybody in the US is target practice for these people. Where will mass shootings happen more, a sign that reads
"This is a gun free zone"
or
"Staff is heavily armed and trained"
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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by FanboyMctroll 2 years ago
FanboyMctroll
Guns serve one purpose only, to kill, get rid of guns, the killing gets reduced, not eliminated but reduced significantly in America.

Bomb materials are already monitored on the FBI watch list same as if Jim Bob decides to buy 10 bags of fertilizer, all monitored, IED components are monitored, that is 3why bomb aren't going off everywhere since McVeigh.

BAN GUNS and the school shooting will reduce by 90%

Victims need to stand up and have the NRA charged with mass murder and have all of them in prison!!
Posted by Nickleos 2 years ago
Nickleos
Lets say guns are gone. Would be school shooter Eugene has had enough. What does he do? He cant bring a gun and kill people. You know whats easier to get than a gun? An IED. The ingredients to make gunpowder can all be found in the gardening section at home depot. Eugene makes a bomb. Eugene blows the school without warning, nobody even has a chance to run. This is just one situation of many. If a.person wants to harm another person, they will find a way with or without a gun. And thats not even including illegal guns, 3d printed guns, knives, etc. Crime will always exist. Hatred will always exist. Take away guns and hatred still exists.
No matter what you do, it wont eliminate these atrocities from happening, its good that instigator is passionate about this. But you cant just use emotion in a logical debate.
Posted by TheLogicGeneration 2 years ago
TheLogicGeneration
Oh a hell yeah!!!!! :D
Posted by TheLogicGeneration 2 years ago
TheLogicGeneration
Oh a hell yeah!!!!! :D
Posted by itsthecap 2 years ago
itsthecap
Ok, there are shootings in America, but banning all guns is insane. There are different sources people can get their hands on a gun even if it"s banned. If it"s easy to import drugs from Mexico to the U.S, what makes you think banning guns will stop all gun manufacturing?

Mass shooters cause harm on places where there is no security. They know that if they went to a school, they wouldn"t have a challenge to face.

Now if you"re concerened about the deaths in America, We"ll why can"t you focus on banning tobacco that kills way more people than guns. Or focus on preventing heart dissease which is the number 1 leading cause of death in America. You can"t take evil away from a person. So even if you do take away their gun, there are different ways an evil person can inflict harm.
Posted by Arclite 2 years ago
Arclite
We need to do more to crack down on the individuals who are perpetrating these crimes, rather than a tool that is used to do so. I personally would advocate for harsher background checks, but not the relinquishment of firearms all together. The second amendment still stands and for good reason, be it self defense, personal liberty, and even to resist in the off chance that our government oversteps its boundaries. Con already stated some relevant stats, albeit without a citation, that validate the exact argument that needs to be made. People who are motivated to kill will not stop once an avenue is taken from them. We have seen this in the former USSR, the UK, and even the general EU. The left needs to grasp the fact that attempting to abolish the second amendment is not going to happen for the foreseeable future. They have tried in both Maryland and California, about as liberal as it gets, and even there these pushes failed.
Posted by FanboyMctroll 2 years ago
FanboyMctroll
Enough is enough, I don't want to fill in the blanks for March 2018, April, May , June, for the rest of the year.

Enough people have lost their lives and people don't understand it until they lose a loved one themselves to gun violence, then they will understand. There is no need to own a gun!!!

STUDENTS, YOU ARE ALL THE FUTURE, STAND UP AND SAY NO TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT!!!

Guns were used for survival in the 1700, 1800, in todays modern society there is no need for guns, we have law enforcement now, State Police, Federal Police, ATF, SWAT, we have enough police presence that guns are not needed.
Posted by alphabet 2 years ago
alphabet
Pro guy you are so emotionally charged its hilarious
good arguments though
Posted by alphabet 2 years ago
alphabet
yo chill a little bit fanboy. screaming in all caps is not gonna get anyone to accept your logic.
The con guy has a lousy argument- just cuz its now legal doesnt mean it should be.
ultimately guns do not kill people by themselves, someone pulls the trigger. You cant simply blame knives for stabbings. It is the interaction between the human and object that together enable a kill.
The guy needs to be a psycho- no sane person intentionally murders, especially like that.
The real issue is mental health- a psycho can find many ways to kill even if theoretically he cant get a gun.

Banning guns theoretically may remove a method to mass kill which would be good, but its difficult to say that it would actually work. Criminals may still be able to get guns, and regular citizens would lose a way to protect themselves, potentially prevent other shootings by shooting the shooter or the shooter will be scared off by legal gun owners and not shoot in the first place or the psycho will not bother shooting because it will be shut down before its a mass shooting.
All maybe's and theory with no hard evidence on either side.
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