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LOL98700z
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Redstone
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All personnel in developed countries are free

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LOL98700z
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/1/2019 Category: People
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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LOL98700z

Con

Since this is the opening round, I am going to provide my argument on my current position, Which is that human being are not free.

Argument 1: The definition of freedom:
According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, The word Freedom stands for:
- The quality or state of being free, Such as: 1. The absence of necessity, Coercion, Or constraint in choice or action; 2. Liberation from slavery or restraint or from the power of another : INDEPENDENCE. From the definitions, We can clearly see that the word of freedom is to have a person acting according to his will however, This is indeed not the case in the modern society. Regardless of whether you are in a Developed Country or a Developing country, There is always some sorts of rules you must abide by in order to survive in the society you live in.

Argument 2: Freedom is never real
Despite repeated claims from countries such as United State saying that they are the ultimate Free West, These claims aren't true. First of all, From the Argument 1, We can understand that being free is to live by no one's rule, Which is not the case in United State, Or other places on earth. Everyone must abide to the law in order to survive. One of the most outrageous example of the freedom that was took away from people, Is the electoral right. The Electoral College, The most notorious government branch today, Controlled by 583 representatives from all states, Selected by people. Despite it's continual framing as free election, The election is not free as the electoral colleges are weak against corruption of the electoral representative. For example, In the 2000 presidential election, The most controversial part was the California part. While the California Court had ordered for a recount, The Supreme court called the recount: "Unconstitutional" and ordered to stop the recount, Effectively giving Bush the presidency. While this is perhaps normal, Gore is still the only presidential candidate in the history of United State who had won the General vote but had lost the Electoral vote. The US system of election is simply, In 1 word, Anti-free election.

C3: The Social Structure Of Developed Country:
One of the most significant point that should be pointed out here is the radical change in society after the Industrial Revolution, While introducing money and mass production, The industrial revolution also began to shape our mind into a stable structure. Currently nearly everyone simply have 1 way to go in life: Go to school - University - Job - Retirement - Death. That is not what freedom truly is, Human is a creative species. However, With all these requirement that we had now make into our shackles, Human kind is truly, No longer free.
Redstone

Pro

My Argument: I do agree that in developed countries people may not be completely free, But do have freedom to do certain things. What people have freedom to do is said in the Bill of Rights, Or the first ten amendments to the constitution of the United States. One example is the freedom of speech. This means citizens of the USA have freedom in this particular area. So they can have unrestricted direct communication to other people and cannot be punished for speech due to them not having any restrictions in this area.
Debate Round No. 1
LOL98700z

Con

First Of All, Thank you for responding to this debate.

My Opponent offered an argument based on people's freedom of speech. However, That is certainly not totally true. Despite the surface claim of free speech, US continues to have bias and restricted news that were not released. In the UN definition of freedom of speech, It was stated:
"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, Receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. "
However, Many news media and also other types are being targeted in not only US but also other developed countries. For example, Spotlight, A 2015 American biographical drama film directed by Tom McCarthy. The film follows The Boston Globe's spotlight team as they uncover the crime done by a catholic priest called John Geoghan. Revealing to us that not only does the government censor news, But also large cooperation.

Secondly, There is something very important on the definition of speech: everyone have the right to freedom of opinion and expression, Which means they also have the right to receive informations. Edward Snowden might be the best example of this. Employed by both CIA and a NSA sub-contractor, Snowden gave up a comfortable life of 200 thousands US dollar a year, And revealed to the public about the project PRISM. A project that is suppose to spy on US citizens' online activity and also personal information. While the public does have a right to know this, And indeed falls under the freedom of speech, US government still declared him as a traitor, Proving to us how government must be hidding secret from the public, Not for their own good, But for bad ways.
Redstone

Pro

Redstone forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
LOL98700z

Con

I does seem that my opponent had forfeited. I regret this debate as much. Pls vote con for win!
Redstone

Pro

Redstone forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
LOL98700z

Con

OH NIUBI, Hhehehehehhe
Redstone

Pro

Redstone forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
1 comment has been posted on this debate.
Posted by LOL98700z 3 years ago
LOL98700z
It does seem that my opponent has yet to reply. . . . . . . .
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Vote Placed by Leaning 3 years ago
Leaning
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro forfeited and didn't really expand upon his argument at all. Con had an alright argument that made sense in how it pointed out some of the ways people in the USA were not free. While I'm still inching towards people in developed countries being free, Con did happen to remind me of a strange thought of my own. That maybe in a fashion, anything that exists cannot be free. There's always something, even if it's gravity, the limits of the human brain, and so on. Anyway, pity that Redstone up and quit it seems.

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