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Are you sure ALL Jewish can not reach Heaven?

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Started: 2/20/2018 Category: Religion
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reallyawesome123

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Are you sure? Sure, you need to believe in Jesus, and have both faith and works (another argument for a different time), and much more, but do you really believe God will choose to condemn every person who did not believe Jesus was the Son of God? We both know he is God's Son, but not everybody does. Jesus is the Son of God, and he gave us the possibility to reach heaven. When the Jewish crucified Jesus, the Jewish religion was finally complete. Salvation was from then on, quite possible. Speaking of which Salvation originated from the Jews. (John 4:22) If Salvation originated from the Jews, then they themselves can obtain it. It is not up to us Christians to presume the Salvation of others.
FollowerofChrist1955

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Absolutely, while YOU are ALL presumption. Take note Salvation is FROM the Jews. Not of the Jews.
Scripture: John 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I give you.

INFERENCE of scripture IS FORBIDDEN! It SAYS or it DOES NOT SAY! To infer IS to ADD or detract from scripture.

Example; 2 Corinthians 9:7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

There are those who claim THIS SCRIPTURE proves TITHE is optional!
That IS WRONG. As TITHE IS NOT EVEN STATED, it MUST BE INFERRED. As previously noted ... you shall not ADD to or take away FROM .... it doesn"t SAY TITHES at all. Nor offerings does it?

Malachi 3:8
8""Will a mere mortal rob God? Yet you rob me. "But you ask, "How are we robbing you?" "In tithes and offerings.

This does not mention GIVING, it STATES TITHES, and OFFERINGS it makes CRYSTAL CLEAR, you do not TITHE you do not OFFER? YOU ROB God!

To Give to the poor, IS NOT tithing, as tithing IS NOT giving to the poor!

Now lets move on to the REAL TRUTH. ETERNAL LIFE is a GIFT of God, neither earned, nor performed for! Completely free, without attachment!

Scripture:Ephesians 2:8
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--

Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

John 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.

You can ATTEMPT to infer what you will, from the word CONDEMNED! But to infer SAVED? Is merely stupid! And one not to be taken seriously!

The problem with the Jew, aside from the Jews for Jesus of Course, is that the ENTIRE Jewish population remains Pharisee. From 70 Ad to the PRESENT ALL Jewish except those mentioned REMAIN without Blood atonement. As the Levitical Laws HAVE NOT CHANGED, and the Temple NOT present since 70 AD, there CAN BE NO ATONING for the SINS of the Jews, from That time to the Present ... thus ONLY the Jews for Jesus, are SAVED! As THEY HAVE ATTAINED atonement for their SINS by the Blood of Christ.

Any soul on EARTH who has not the atoning Blood of Christ has NOT salvation. End of story!

The Thing about Gods TRUTH is that it CANNOT BE manipulated by Mans wishful thinking, it remains IRONCLAD.

Levitical LAW DEMANDS BLOOD SACRIFICE .... you being Jew CANNOT wish that away ... it MUST BE DONE or you are in VIOLATION of the Laws as given BY MOSES himself! Nothing, no excuse you ATTEMPT TO MAKE will alter that truth. You can attempt to ADD or TAKE AWAY from the law, ut in doing so you VIOLATE another ... in Deuteronomy 4:2. You see, Gods word CANNOT BE GOTTEN AROUND, because TRUTH cannot be gotten around!

In CHRIST ... BLOOD Sacrifice IS RESTORED, He IS the Temple.

Hebrews 10:14 For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

I noticed you IGNORED the words of Isaiah. You cannot IGNORE scripture under any pretense of obedience to God, yet you did? Have your senses become so dulled that you no longer recognize blasphemous actions within yourself?
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Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 2 years ago
FollowerofChrist1955
Youraverageunicorn ;

There has never BEEN any doubt of Heavens or Hells existence. Only THOSE going to EACH no the truth of it!
By evidence ... those going to Heaven WALK after God. Those GOING to Hell walk after themselves!

Just as a reminder, You remember Adam and Eve? Remember the Fall, that everyone knows? Yeah!
ALL ARE DESTINED TO HELL at DEATH. The ENTIRE HUMAN RACE, BAR NONE!

How do I know this ... I can READ!
I'm assuming you can too? Read this: Romans 5:12
Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned.

passed unto ALL men! See that ... whose ALL MEN? ALL MEN!
So the moment Men are Born they are to die in time and GO to Hell. NO EXCEPTIONS.

Ahh but there's MORE. read this? 1b Corinthians 15:21
"For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man."

Death came through Adam, restoration back to Heaven comes ALSO through ONE MAN-Jesus Christ!
see. People always say why a Loving God would send people to HELL. God didn't ADAM did. GOD made A WAY for YOU to escape that fate ... he had Jesus DIE to pay for the SINS of the World that WHOSOEVER accepts Christ as Savior and Lord ... WILL BE SAVED! How? BY YOUR SINS, past, present AND FUTURE, being passed onto JESUS , HIS BLOOD PAYS IN FULL, your Sin Debt.

Once you accept Christ God SEALS YOU with HIS HOLY SPIRIT. Once sealed God takes up your growth and teaching, from that moment forward. And eternal Life is GIVEN to you AS A FREE GIFT!
Can't Lose it, cause you didn't earn it.
Look up close your eyes and tell Jesus you know your a sinner and in need of His salvation. Tell Him you know He is Lord and savior and that your asking for Him to come into your Heart, and save you. Then get a Bible go to any Christian Church and Tell the Pastor you accepted Jesus into your heart. He will help you after that.
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 2 years ago
FollowerofChrist1955
reallyawesome123;
I'm sending a friend request ... lets talk!
Posted by Youraverageunicorn 2 years ago
Youraverageunicorn
I don't know. I think this debate should first focus on if their IS a heaven or hell...
Posted by reallyawesome123 2 years ago
reallyawesome123
Check this for our Church's rule on it- http://www.slate.com...
Posted by reallyawesome123 2 years ago
reallyawesome123
Second of all, I am a Catholic Christian. It is what we believe. I am trying to present the truth with love, for truth without love is not true.
Posted by reallyawesome123 2 years ago
reallyawesome123
Show me, where in the bible does it Explicitly note all Jewish will not go to Heaven?
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