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backwardseden
Pro (for)
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Da_AcidKritana
Con (against)

Atheism is disbelief, Rejection of belief, Absence of belief. A god takes belief. That's a religion

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Started: 5/7/2021 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 1 month ago Status: Debating Period
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backwardseden

Pro

Since atheism is the disbelief, The rejection of belief, The absence of belief in a god or gods, That's not a religion. To believe in a god, Especially when no god or gods have ever been proven to exist in the entire existence of the human race to back up any claim or claims with evidence, That's a religion.
Da_AcidKritana

Con

Atheism is a belief. In order to disbelieve something, You have to believe it's not true. If you disbelieve in gods or god, Then you believe that they don't exist. Just like believing that unicorns aren't real is a form of belief.

The only way it cannot be a belief is if it was never known by you. Because you don't know of it, You can't either believe or disbelieve it.

That's why atheism is a religious belief system - we believe that gods and god do not exist.

It relates to religion, And is a belief about it.

(I'm an atheist, If you can't tell. )
Debate Round No. 1
backwardseden

Pro

Atheist: a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.
Wikipedia, The very first few sentences. "Atheism, In the broadest sense, Is an absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, Atheism is a rejection of the belief that any deities exist. "

* "The only way you can be a bad atheist is to believe in god. " Matt Dillahunty
* "You don't get to put your unreason upon the same shelf with my reason. " Bill Maher
* "Atheism is a response to a single claim, That some god exists. We don"t believe that"s true so we"re atheists. And that"s all it means. " Jen Peeples

No. Atheism does not relate to religion at all. Atheists are individuals and are separate from religion and are not bound by a book or compare clothing on any given Sunday as examples.
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=7o5h0DdcyTA - Reasons for accepting atheism B. O. P.
"Religious claims fail to meet their B. O. P. " Matt Dillahunty
"Its not that we accept atheism because you"re accepting a nonbelief. Or let me rephrase it. It the rejection of a belief. It means the same thing I suppose. You"re suggesting that we believe in something never indicated until indicated I can"t believe it. I mean you can make up any number of things that can come to your imagination, But when you posit them as true it is incumbent upon you to come up with a reason why we should believe that it is true. " Aron Ra
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=WbxqvugoJuw - Proof that atheism is accurate and correct
Atheism doesn"t have the B. O. P. It is the rejection of claims that have not met their B. O. P.
Atheism is the lack of belief in something.
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=E3rGev6OZ3w&t=130s - Penn Jillette: Reading the Bible (Or the Koran, Or the Torah) Will Make You an Atheist
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=lMLzThidlZM The Burden of Proof is on Christians or Atheist? ! - The Atheist Experience #776
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=9b1Hj0_S48A - Bill Maher - Atheism IS NOT a Religion
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=qHsFA7cp7M0&t=178s - Atheism a religion?
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=cUh91EP8ClE - The case for Atheism (Richard Carrier)
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=lDpEeHD54Mo&t=1397s - The Gospel According to Carrier
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=mLdjoEWOnec - A believers guide to Atheism in 9 minutes
https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=GVINMVghksk - How to Completely Refute Atheism: Refuted
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=wtO1e9breLs - Is Atheism a Dogmatic Religion?
* https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=TqhRlpjp4Dw - Atheist VS christian Jaclyn Glenn
Da_AcidKritana

Con

> Atheist: a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.
Wikipedia, The very first few sentences. "Atheism, In the broadest sense, Is an absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, Atheism is a rejection of the belief that any deities exist. "

Wikipedia is a good place to start, But do you think you should really be using it as your evidence?

As for the quotes, I find them interesting. But how does that pertain? They just say that you don't believe in a god/gods, Dibelief.

> No. Atheism does not relate to religion at all. Atheists are individuals and are separate from religion and are not bound by a book or compare clothing on any given Sunday as examples.

Atheism is a disbelief in a god or gods - it is connected to religion and is thus a religious belief. I don't necessarily know about religion (at least not yet). I didn't say that we had a specific book or clothing (? ) or anything like that. Religion does not necessarily need that. It's just that (at least) some religions have those. Not all, Of course, So that defeats your point.

> Or let me rephrase it. It the rejection of a belief.

When you're rejecting a belief, It means that you don't believe it's true. Thus, Disbelief.

Thats a lot of YouTube videos. . . I'll watch them in a little when I can.
Debate Round No. 2
backwardseden

Pro

"Wikipedia is a good place to start, But do you think you should really be using it as your evidence? "
Yep.
And I went MUCH further and far deeper.
Did you watch the vidies? Apparently not.

"I didn't say that we had a specific book or clothing (? ) or anything like that. "
I did. It's called "giving a few examples. "
Religion requires some type of reference point like a belly aching bumbling babbling baby brained big black hole bible or better known as a BOOK to unite people under. And yes, According to George Carlin people do compare clothing every Sunday.
Atheism has no reference point except that there is disbelief, Rejection of, Absence of belief in a god(s). That's it. That's all atheism is. Atheists are individuals. Those who are religious are united under multitudes of beliefs. AND to make matters worse for those who are religious, There's probably no consensus for those beliefs.
Now how is disbelief, Rejection, Absence - a religion?

Makes sense?
Please tc and haveth thee fun!
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Posted by philboi 1 month ago
philboi
" Atheism is the belief that there are no Gods" atheist philosopher Graham Oppy.
Posted by Ihsieman 1 month ago
Ihsieman
Then it is the belief in the rejection of God, And this guy takes it to a religious extreme, Look at his past debate, Well he does believe in Gia, So. . . .
Posted by canis 1 month ago
canis
Atheism is not disbelief. Its not a rejection. It not absence of anything.
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