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Davey_Wavey
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swiftify
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Being Transgender Should be Classified as a Mental Disorder

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Started: 7/27/2018 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Debating Period
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Davey_Wavey

Pro

Accept first round we'll debate second.
Debate Round No. 1
Davey_Wavey

Pro

BIID or Body Integrity Identity Disorder, By definition means "a rare, Infrequently studied and highly secretive condition in which there is a mismatch between the mental body image and the physical body. Subjects suffering from BIID have an intense desire to amputate a major limb or severe the spinal cord in order to become paralyzed. " - https://www. Ncbi. Nlm. Nih. Gov/. BIID is in layman's terms a disorder which the victim is mentally impaired by the false presupposition that they're are a amputee inside of a normal persons body. You can clearly see why this is a mental disorder. So why do we say that people with BIID are mentally ill for cutting off a healthy arm or a leg, But when a transgender person wants to cut off a healthy penis or breasts it's not a mental illness? You could argue that "the transgender person isn't delusional and is really a woman trapped inside a mans body" vice verse. But that isn't true either, You could use that same argument to defend the actions of people who have BIID arguing "No I'm not a normal healthy person I'm really an amputee stuck inside of a normal persons body. "

Trans people are clearly not the gender they identify with, Take a look at your 9th grade Biology book for reference. A male has a X and a Y chromosome a female has two X chromosomes. Men and Women literally have different brains, The male and female brains. When you surgically remove a penis that does NOT change the rest of your Biology as a male and if you add a penis as a female that does NOT change the rest of your Biology as a female because for in both cases surgery doesn't change gender. Since we can clearly differentiate male and female and deduct that it is impossible for one to be the other what does it mean for people transgender people who think they're are the other? It means they're mentally ill, A mental illness is in the mind not in the rest of your body. Just like identification is in the brain. For example a black person identifies as black because he can look at his own arm and the neurons in his brain deduce that he is black because of what he sees. Or a person who identifies as tall he can deduct that he is tall from seeing the majority of people around his head tops or measuring himself against other people. But when the short person identifies as tall after rewiring the evidence to his own conformation bias and deduces he is a tall person that would be someone with a mental illness. Just as someone who identifies as being a females when in reality is a male is mentally ill. In fact it used to be called "Gender Identity Disorder" it was only recently pulled from the diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders or the (DSM-IV-TR) because of the American Board of Psychology's fear of not being "politically correct. "

"But what about intersex people? " Let me first say that less than 1% of people or Biologically considered intersex and the vast majority of people are clearly a male or a female from birth. For those less than 1% of people who are intersex the solution for them is not change their gender (because they're still classified as male or females at birth) it is to get them help. Being intersex is an actual disorder we don't treat people with disorders by conforming to their ideologies do we? We don't treat people who have depression by telling them to kill themselves do we? Just like we should help people who are intersex overcome their disorder by not undergoing gender reassignment surgery but sending them to a psychologist and/or other specialist to help them with their disorder. (This can also said for people who identify as transgender for they also have a mental illness. )

The definition of a mental disorder (mental illness and disorder can be juxtaposed) is "A substantial disorder of thought, Mood, Perception, Orientation or memory that grossly impairs a person"s behavior, Judgment, Capacity to recognize reality, Or ability to meet the ordinary demands of life. "- "https://www. Merriam-webster. Com/dictionary/mental%20illness. " Take the part where it says "disorder. . . . Of perception" and "impairs a person's behavior, Judgment, Capacity to recognize reality. " After reading the dictionary definition of mental disorder, It is self evident being transgender is up to par to the criteria. We shouldn't deny that trans people have a mental illness but we should accept it and help them. Imagine a society in which we all encourage depression and not offer people with it help? That's the same thing we are doing with trans people by letting their delusions be accepted as fact.

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Posted by annabanana20 3 years ago
annabanana20
This is a stupid debate. Get help Davey_Wavey
Posted by mosc 3 years ago
mosc
Nazi superior race - Go to Dresden.

Being a pervert ^^^^ once was a Capital Crime. Nazis get Hanged.
Posted by What50 3 years ago
What50
Isn't it called Gender Dysphoria.
Posted by felixmendelssohn 3 years ago
felixmendelssohn
most mental disorders tend to hamper a person's productivity. Transgender does not seem to have that effect so NO its not a metal disorder.
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