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Border fences. . . . Walls, Are necessary to Protect a nations soverinty.

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Started: 12/31/2018 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Lookingatissues

Pro

DEBATE. Org, A New topic, New topic. . . Border fences/ Walls, Are necessary to Protect a nations sovereignty. By. . . Lookingattheissues 2
A nation can't survive if the borders aren't secure and will disingrate and fail like the once infameous Rome. Other countries by building fences /walls on their borders prove that they are effective in stopping invaders from invading a nation. Only those who believe in Nations without borders, A one world, Object to border fences/walls.
". . . . A brilliant college professor named Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, Mexifornia, Explaining how immigration " both legal and illegal " was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream. The cost to America's citizens to provide welfare to aliens flooding America's cities and towns is growing by leaps and bounds to the point of dissolution and unsustainable and will collapse under the ever increasing demands made upon it. Since America's borders are ineffective in keeping out illegal aliens and the elite in politics and education, ". . . . Encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. "and adovcate". . . . . Replacing. . . . The melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. . . . And claim. . . . It is important to ensure that we have various cultural sub-groups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, Emphasizing their similarities. "
quote March 11, 2017 Dan Volkman
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America must have control of who and how many aliens are allowed to enter this country. An impregnable border is a must if a nation is long to remain a nation.
Sonofcharl

Con

And what is Pro's definition of a perfect U. S. Citizen?

And which planet do illegal aliens come from?

The U. S. A. Is a nation founded on immigration and multi-culturalism. So why does Pro choose to be so selfish now?

Is Pro something of a racist nimby? Just doesn't want people who look and sound a little different living next door.

There is only one world so embrace it. What's the point of hiding behind mental barricades?
Debate Round No. 1
Lookingatissues

Pro

Lookingatissues forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
Lookingatissues

Pro

Lookingatissues forfeited this round.
Sonofcharl

Con

Once again a debater unable to back up their prejudices with eloquence.

The pen is mightier than the sword as Edward Bulwer-Lytton once said.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by levi_smiles 3 years ago
levi_smiles
I suspect that the March 11, 2017 Dan Volkman tag after the cut & paste is an Imagine Dragons reference.
Posted by levi_smiles 3 years ago
levi_smiles
This was a popular meme back in 2005, Which accurately quotes a 2004 book endorsement by Gov. Lamm, Who remains pleased and surprised at the quote's longevity. I found Lamm to be a fairly good governor but I also recall that his other moments in the national spotlight were also less than graceful: reneging the '76 Olympics, The "duty to die" quotes, Where he stated that senior citizens have a moral obligation to expire sooner after retirement, And losing the Reform Party nomination to Ross Perot.

The guy who wrote the book Mexifornia is named Victor Davis Hanson, Not Victor Hansen Davis but the amazing thing is that's because Gov. Lamm got the author's name wrong in the actual speech. I wonder, Does one still get paid for a book endorsement if one gets the author's last name wrong in the actual text of the endorsement? Because. . . . That's what Lamm did here. Snopes fact checked the speech years later and even in Lamm's re-edited copy the name was still screwed up.

There's plenty more to note about Hanson's dire 2003 predictions about immigration in a post-911 world and how none of that turned about to be true: illegal immigration is down 75%, California is prospering, Surpassing the economy of the UK last year. But I expect I am talking to air.
Posted by valganis 3 years ago
valganis
its a bot poster
Posted by Juris 3 years ago
Juris
Delete some of your debates with exact title. .
Posted by Soviet4life 3 years ago
Soviet4life
ya, We do need a strong border
Posted by DeletedUser 3 years ago
DeletedUser
why did you make SIX of the exact same debate
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