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hoffman1998
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billsands
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Cattle, Pigs, Sheep, And chickens are better off in free range farms than in nature

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hoffman1998
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/26/2019 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 616 times Debate No: 120051
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hoffman1998

Pro

This debate isn't about what feels right or wrong but rather, It asks us, The debaters to place ourselves in the shoes of these animals, Regardless of how feasible that is to do, And attempt to make a preference decision for these animals with regards to what is preferable, Free roaming in the wilderness or kept and slain in free-range farms.

I believe animals that are bread, Taken unconditionally fed, Rigorously looked after, And protected from the harms of nature (and eventually prematurely slain for food) are better off than in the scenario where they are let out into the wild and are exposed to the horrors of disease, Starvation, And constant fear and stress from wild predators, Which would eventually dictate the eradication of these now domesticated animals.

On average these animals wouldn't survive as long in nature, As they do in free-range farms, And their quality of life is significantly worse. Also, The slow and painful death to disease or starvation is, Although less of a shock, Far worse in terms of the accumulated pain and suffering than getting knocked out and then getting your throat slit, Or even without the 'getting knocked out' part.
billsands

Con

Well these are domesticated animals are they not? They can't survive in nature so the point is rather moot no?
Debate Round No. 1
hoffman1998

Pro

Not really, No. You can argue that these animals would've preferred a chance at living in nature. You can argue that the way they die (be it by predator, Starvation, Or disease) in nature is preferential to their helpless slaughtering. You can argue that their inability to escape the farm negatively impacts their wellbeing. Man, There are plenty of cherries to pick. Also, By domesticating an animal you might be removing decreasing or amplify its certain features, But you're not directly taking away its ability to survive in nature. Sure, Currently domesticated animals have a low chance at surviving in the unexplored, Vicious environment we call nature, But the same can not be said about their offspring (which would then grow up in nature).

Why did you accept the debate if you don't even make an attempt at refuting my arguments?
billsands

Con

Starvation is the worst death imaginable worse than a human execution
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by Sonofcharl 3 years ago
Sonofcharl
"Old English way of saying extinct"

Pull the other one it's got bells on.
Posted by Sonofcharl 3 years ago
Sonofcharl
I would also suggest that if humans did decide to end the production of farm animals.
The best way to go about it would be the immediate cessation of all breeding programmes, Whilst continuing with current slaughter and utilisation practices. What would be the point in simply opening the farm gate and letting that valuable food resource run off into the wild.
To coin a farming phrase: Wouldn't it be better to make hay whilst the sun was still shining.
Posted by hoffman1998 3 years ago
hoffman1998
Old English way of saying extinct
Posted by Sonofcharl 3 years ago
Sonofcharl
What does go instinct mean?
Posted by hoffman1998 3 years ago
hoffman1998
I'm not here to win debate points I'm here to debate. Won't respond to your troll comments, But your the last comment seems to have some credence so I shall respond to that. If you terminate animal farming, Millions of animals are going to die a slow and painful death and these animals will probably go instinct unless kept in a zoo.
Posted by Sonofcharl 3 years ago
Sonofcharl
And the good thing is:

No throat slitting involved in fruit harvesting.
Posted by Sonofcharl 3 years ago
Sonofcharl
Love the way Pro transitions and argues against themself.

Nice ploy billsands. Con takes it.

And cherry picking is usually an operation employed both on fruit farms and in the natural environment.
Posted by Sonofcharl 3 years ago
Sonofcharl
Let's face it.

Getting knocked out and having your throat slit is pretty sh*t.

And you're right. Not getting knocked out but still having your throat slit would probably be even sh*tter.
Posted by Sonofcharl 3 years ago
Sonofcharl
Or are you suggesting that animals should be unconditionally fed bread?

I would personally suggest that an unconditional diet of bread would be somewhat detrimental to an animals wellbeing.
Posted by Sonofcharl 3 years ago
Sonofcharl
Are animals really bread?

Aren't sandwiches bread, Often with a tasty rendered animal filling?
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Vote Placed by Thoht 3 years ago
Thoht
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