Christian's Cannot Believe in Creationism and Evolution Simultaneously
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Started: | 2/4/2019 | Category: | Religion | ||
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Creationism and evolution are conflicting positions about reality. They cannot rationally and honestly be held simultaneously, And anyone who pretends to hold both views is either irrational, Uneducated or dishonest.
Though the two subjects are very different they are not entirely conflicting. Evolution is defined as two key factors development and diversity. While the religion you specified (Christianisty) does not believe in the development of all creatures it does believe that we can naturally diversify. As stated in collosians 1:16-17 everything was created by god and for him therefore whatever continues to happen to that object or creature is natural cause. The statement you're making is irrational in its own, Saying that you cannot believe in both is wrong and small minded. If that statement were true than we would have no religous or Christian for this matter scientists or anyone educated at all, Because a person who believes in a higher being can also know that animals can adapt and evolve to meet the enviorment around thems requirements. |
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I respectfully and wholly disagree with your argument, And here is why.
Evolution does not deal with the initial aspects of life's origins, It simply focuses on how life changed after it was initially going (change in genetics over time). I think you and I agree on this. You said, "The statement you're making is irrational in its own, Saying that you cannot believe in both is wrong and small minded" The concept of creationism deals with individual "kinds", Or archetypes, Being created by God in about a weeks time. Each of these archetypes are the highest ancestral lineage for their kind and nothing beneath those kinds are back-traceable beyond their original archetype. From within those kinds, They further diversify genetically, But speciation never occurs (kinds do not create new kinds). I believe this is basically what you are saying Christians believe, Correct? If I'm wrong, Please correct me. If so, This is not evolution and it's entirely inconsistent with all available scientific evidence. The belief in creationism is irrational and small minded. You said, " If that statement were true than we would have no religous or Christian for this matter scientists or anyone educated at all, Because a person who believes in a higher being can also know that animals can adapt and evolve to meet the enviorment around thems requirements. " Anyone who believes these two beliefs are compatible are either ignorant or dishonest. This includes any scientist who wears their lab coat part time. I'll explain why. . . Within evolution, A species phylogeny is traceable back through it's clades in a tree-like structure, Where common ancestors are evidently demonstrable through various forms of science including but not limited to genetics, Geology, Radio metric dating and morphology. Whether you like it or not, You share DNA with a tree. Your genetics can be traced back throughout the figurative tree of life, And these phylogeny trees are available online for you to see. There is no "archetype" or "kinds" in which each clade descends from. This completely clashes with creationism and is why I insist it's impossible to honestly hold both views simultaneously. They are simply not in any way compatible. Beyond genetics you have morphology which studies the structural changes of biology. This is demonstrable within clades (such as human ancestry), As well as between clades. Beyond that you have geology where you find these fossils in a "chronological" order within the geo strata. You will never find a human fossil with a t-rex fossil, For example. All of the fossils line up perfectly with evolutionist's predictions. Beyond that you have several forms of radio metric dating which accurately dates the geology and other things, Once again lining up with the evolutionist's predictions. Beyond that you have demonstrable factual evidence, Produced in a lab, Of evolution in action. It has been studied, Documented, Verified and witnessed. It's fact, Biology changes over time. Over longer periods of time you'll see larger overall changes. This is the scientific consensus. In order to disagree with any of this, You would have a mountain of science to disprove. All these fields of science corroborate each other and beyond a question demonstrate that "kinds" were not "created", They evolved from simpler life forms. KeedoTheSpeedo forfeited this round. |
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The Bible says the Earth was a wasteland before humans
I am guessing Christians because they make a lot more of the population and a lie can still be a lie even if the person stating it does not know it is one. Meaning when liars tell gullible people a lie they believe it and they also lie.