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Bryan101
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Sonofcharl
Con (against)

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Started: 5/27/2018 Category: Religion
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Debating Period
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Bryan101

Pro

Here is something controversial...

What would happen if we went to any other tomb on Earth, opened the doors and said "Wake Up, It Is Time!"? Every nonbeliever and their idol hands would remain a lifeless body.

What would happen if we said, "How can you see what is in Heaven so clearly but you can't see what is standing directly in front of your face!"? We would be stoned mentally and spiritually by the walking dead.

What would happen if we persisted even further? We would become surrounded and stoned physically!

Therefore we walk past the tombs of nonbelievers and do not enter.

If the dead ever find themselves trapped in a dark tomb with other nonbelievers waiting for Christ to return then forgive one another, confess to one another and the gates of Heaven will open and Christ will be revealed.
Sonofcharl

Con

Where is the controversy?

1) My hands are neither idol or idle. Notwithstanding the cataclysm, beseech them awaken and their hearts not their hands will lie in the decaying broth of infinite time.

2) The limitations of vision and the fog of spirituality, the pea soup fog of spirituality. Can you see your nose in front of your face. Stoned! Hey man only the stoned see the walking dead, tripping on scriptural delusion.

3) Persistence is futile. Banging heads against the infinite wall of reality. Stones will only scatter that tenuous organic froth. The impudence of knowledge exceeds it's significance tenfold, a hundredfold. Chance knowledge and that meagre stone dropping into the infinite ocean of time and space.

4) Walk where you dare, for the dead care or believe not. Tombs are but the nonsense of conceptuality.

5) The three way acceptance of spirituality, illusion delusion and confusion. Words tumble and delight the senses of the gullible. Words spin like muons and decay in an instant ,but knowledge hangs like a sticky residue. Those gates are an illusion, a mind held delusion wrought by impudent knowledge and self wrought confusion, standing gloriously in the middle of nowhere.
Debate Round No. 1
Bryan101

Pro

Thank you for you time, well said.

Every life is a witness to his or her own existence. Every witness has a genesis, pages in-between, and a revelation. We are each our own book, our own temple and GOD, the Sun of God and the spirit of truth testifies within us all, All and ALL.
Who would crucify the right hand (forgiveness for all, Forgiveness for All and FORGIVENESS FOR ALL"no sin, No Sin and NO SIN)? Who would crucify the left hand (confessional baptism, Confessional Baptism and CONFESSIONAL BAPTISM"no sin, No Sin and NO SIN)? Who would crucify the feet (the pillars of truth, The Pillars of Truth and THE PILLARS OF TRUTH)?) The three are one, One and ONE"spirit, Sun and GOD"confession, Forgiveness and TEMPERANCE"I am, I Am and I AM"the head, Head and HEAD (temperance, Temperance and TEMPERANCE"no sin, No Sin and NO SIN.

There are seven unlit wicks and seven stars. There are seven seals. We can leave the judging to GOD whom has good judgment while we focus on forgiving others, confessing our sins and practicing temperance! What is unlit becomes lit. When we unlock all seals (forgiven all, confessed to all and returned to all temperance) we will let the wicks on our lampstand shine; shine, shine, shine, shine, shine, shine and shine.

The left hand of GOD, which has been lowered down, is a section of the path in which all of us travel (confessional baptism). Broad is the path that leads to destruction (judging all, condemning all, and turning away from all temperance) and narrow is the path (forgiving all, confessing to all and returning to all temperance) that leads to salvation (Forgiven All, Confessed to All and Returned to All Temperance).

When the right hand of GOD (NO SIN"FORGIVEN ALL) and the left hand of GOD (CONFESSED TO ALL"NO SIN) come together there will be an ALMIGHTY CRACK! We will wake up! GOD"S Prayer, (RETURNED TO ALL TEMPERANCE"NO SIN), will be answered, Answered and ANSWERED.

These Three Truths we hold to be self-evident:

THE LAW OF THE SPIRIT OF LIFE IS THIS: FORGIVE ALL, CONFESS TO ALL, AND PRACTICE ALL TEMPERANCE"NO CONDEMNATION.

THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH IS THIS: DO NOT FORGIVE ALL, DO NOT CONFESS TO ALL, AND DO NOT PRACTICE ALL TEMPERANCE"CONDEMNATION.

THE LAW OF SALVATION: FORGIVE ALL, CONFESS TO ALL AND RETURN TO ALL TEMPERANCE.

THE THREE WOES: 1) WOE TO THOSE WHO DO NOT FORGIVE ALL, 2) WOE TO THOSE WHO DO NOT CONFESS TO ALL, AND 3) WOE TO THOSE WHO DO NOT RETURN TO ALL TEMPERANCE. UNRIGHTEOUS SIN AND IMMORAL SIN ARE NOT WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE. BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO DO NOT SEEK CONFIRMATION.

SO, IN EVERYTHING, DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU. ALL THAT SUMS UP THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.

In this way success is inevitable: GOD"S SPOKEN WORD placed humanity within GOD"S WRITTEN WORD and we were born again, the LIVING WORD OF GOD"ETERNAL.

Every child of GOD will return home: no seed was left behind (FORGIVEN ALL, CONFESSED TO ALL AND RETURNED TO ALL TEMPERANCE)! The Staff of Unconditional Love is this: GOD/no GOD, FAITH/no faith, UNIVERSAL TRUTH/no universal truth.
When we do not believe in the dynamics of unconditional love, Unconditional Love and UNCONDITIONAL LOVE (heaven, Heaven and HEAVEN) we will return to conditional love, Conditional Love and CONDITIONAL LOVE (earth, Earth and EARTH) or no love, No Love and NO LOVE (hell, Hell and HELL). How is that not self-evident? We have been given a reed, like a measuring rod, to measure the growth of ourselves. We can leave the judging to ourselves, Others and GOD whom has good judgment while we focus on forgiving others, confessing our sins and practicing temperance.

Blessed are those who wash their own robes, that they have the right to the TREE OF LIFE (temperance, Temperance and TEMPERANCE) and may go through the GATES (confessional baptism, Confessional Baptism and CONFESSIONAL BAPTISM) into the CITY (forgiveness for all, Forgiveness for All and FORGIVENESS FOR ALL). We are not slaves in heaven, Heaven or HEAVEN; we are willing servants of our most loving GOD.

Absolutely Infinite and Absolutely Everything is GOD"S gift to us all: Forgiven All"Confessed to All"the Practice of All Temperance"judging all"condemning all"turning away from all temperance"no forgiveness"no confession"no temperance"forgiving all"confessing to all"returning to all temperance"Forgiven All"Confessed to All"Returned to All Temperance.

FORGIVEN ALL, CONFESSED TO ALL AND RETURNED TO ALL TEMPERANCE is, was and forever will be a mathematical destination, a scientific persistence and a spiritual certainty (heaven, Heaven and HEAVEN). Creation out of Self-Sacrifice is GOD. We do not fail GOD and GOD does not fail us! GOD was, is and forever will be the ALPHA and the OMEGA. When there were no more stars in HEAVEN, all the heavens were within. All energy returned to its source, and there was rejoicing! GOD was, is and forever will be Omnipresent: GOD, CREATOR, CREATION, EARTH, HUMANITY, ONE FLESH.
Sonofcharl

Con

Mighty words, cascade as flippantly as confetti and truth is the Sun of the heavens.
The Son of God, etched into the minds of those who care to witness and lain in those temples by the hands of deceivers.

Mind marriage nonsense and that confetti flutters still. Piety trudges in that thick blanket of words.
Scattered by the hands of those who knew nothing, but proclaimed all. Easily lodged in every nook and cranny of mind fear bewilderment.

Truth exceeds now and the one false god persists, all others in abeyance assured of mind etched persistence.
The power of the one, lain in those sharp suited temples, lays down it's glory and those pompously begowned bankers of religion rest in the certainty of their own existence.

All these colourful fluttering beguiling words, accept the plain words of proof. Book bound words all knowing, but knowing nothing. Hands deceive just as easily and minds are deceived freely.

Matter not as all matter is and acceptance is free. Not mind wrought delusion pounded by that pious hammer.
Life and flesh into vapour and those muons spin still in all ignorance of flesh and knowledge.

Words tumble freely but are wrought into nothing, but daydreams.
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Debating_Horse 3 years ago
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Interesting. You gave nothing but a brief and broad statement, not an actual argument. A question, are you (pro) church? Is that what you were trying to say? I could not comprehend what your opening statement was about.
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