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Eros2
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bcarter66
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Do we need feminism?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/15/2017 Category: People
Updated: 10 months ago Status: Debating Period
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Eros2

Pro

A lot of people like to say we don't need feminism any more. Women have rights, "what more do we want?" First for all feminism is about gender equality. It is not about female supremacy. You can like boys and be a feminist. I just wanted to make that clear.

Now here are reasons we need feminism. A) Sexual harassment in school and the workplace. B) Rape is still not taken seriously enough. According to a study done in 2016, 994 out of 1000 rapists will walk free. You could spend more time in jail for riding a dirt bike in public than raping and traumatizing another human being. C) Unequal pay in male dominated fields. For example, female doctors make 71% of what doctors make. And for anyone who wants to say doctors can't complain because they make enough money just go back to the main point. Why shouldn't females be payed the same? D) Women are constantly be reduced to their appearances. E) Not very many women in politics. F) The government is making decisions about women's bodies. G) Women are not taught to enjoy sex. The female orgasm and the clitoris are not mentioned in sex ed. Girls shouldn't have sex just for their boyfriends. It should also be for them. H) This is a global problem. Child marriage and sex trafficking may seem like a foreign concept but it is happening globally. Not all women have equal rights. We are very blessed to be here in America, but this is a global issue. While you yourself may have not experienced sexism, there are still many parts of the world where women endure horrible abuse.
bcarter66

Con

Feminism is the dumbest thing on this die of the hemisphere. Not only is there no pay gap, but they also have the indignity to say that all men are misogynistic. They claim to be against sexism but this claim in and of itself is sexist. To place a title on an entire race that they are sexist and misogynistic is sexist and misogynistic in and of itself. Now back to my point that the pay gap doesn't exist, people claim that women make anywhere between 70-79 cents to every dollar that a man make, depending on how much pity they want on that day. But it's simply not true the study of the pay gap does not take into effect women's maternity leave is longer than paternity leave, the fact that women take lower paying but more stable jobs because women prefer a more secure environment, the fact that more women go into the low governmental work versus men who try for those higher position governmental roles. RAPE CULTURE DOESN'T EXIST!!! Not only do people need to stop making the idiotic claim that rape culture is "alive and well" but they need to stop saying that it exists in the first place. There are countries in the world where rape culture does exist but it isn't here, no matter how you look at it a man isn't rewarded for committing rape but he is jailed. It is actually more on the woman because they wait for to long to come out and make a rape claim. Then they claim that they do not have a fair trial because they did not win, it is their fault for not speaking up earlier. We say we need to make it easier for women to come out and say they were raped, that's complete BS. Women want to be strong and independent but if they truly were they would have no problem coming out and voicing their problem. If you truly want to claim that women don't get paid the same amount as men then pick up the bill, get your name put in the draft. It disgusts me that women can make the claim that they aren't given equal rights while in other countries people are starving. Stop victimizing yourself it's idiotic, imbecilic, and self centered. stop it, STOP IT, shut the hell up and go die.
Debate Round No. 1
Eros2

Pro

First of all I don't think all men are sexist. You're putting words in my mouth. Bcarter66 everything you're saying is wrong. Just wrong. You obviously don't pay attention to what's going on. It's so sad it's almost hilarious. I'm guessing you're a white man. So just keep your ignorant mouth shut. I'm so glad you've lived such a privileged life and you haven't had to experience rape culture or sexism. I have plenty personal stories and stories from my friends that prove rape culture does exist. Get your head out of the sand and start paying attention. You might be the dumbest person alive. If you were a woman you might not appreciate someone threatening to rape you or being groped by your boss. You wouldn't appreciate someone disrespecting you because of your anatomy. So just don't even start. Just shut up. You literally couldn't be more wrong. As for your absurd comment about women not coming out. Ever heard of something called victim blaming? You underestimate how ashamed women can be after being raped. It is easy to feel like it is your fault. Rape can also be very hard to prove. I sincerely hope you never get raped, but if you did you might be a little more compassionate.
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Minddagger 9 months ago
Minddagger
no you cant like boys and be a feminist, because you are trying to REPLACE THEM
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