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DoulosChristos
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Does Christianity have 1st Amendment Rights?

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Started: 5/2/2018 Category: Religion
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Sophisto

Con

Christians say it"s not a religion but a relationship...
But will they affirm it when their legal rights are challenged?
Maybe freedom of speech and assembly stay but then they would have to turn into a news outlet to gain freedom of the press.
DoulosChristos

Pro

"Christians say it"s not a religion but a relationship..."

Actually we don't. This little slogan you see on social media is hardly reflective of the last 2000 years on Christian thought. Yes there is a large element of relationship to Christ emphasized in our religion, but all religions would entail some sort of relationship to their deity would they not? Christianity is by all definitions of the word, a religion. Using a modern pop theology snippet to try and undermine our first amendment rights is not going to work. We have two thousand years of history and practice on our side proving we are in fact a religion. Therefore we should be protected under the first amendment.
Debate Round No. 1
Sophisto

Con

My own church espouses this mantra...
So yes it is not a rumor. You proved my second sentence in argument one to be accurate. Christians are unique in their relationship claims, unless you can name ten religions that vary on the concept?

Considering the church violates government neutrality, these protections don"t belong to Christianity. Pay taxes or stop influencing policy.
Your history matters none.
2000 years of corruption and absence of supernatural activity hardly qualifies your church to be an active religion.
DoulosChristos

Pro

"My own church espouses this mantra..."

How exactly does this make it correct?

And I never stated the phrase was a rumor. Christianity is unique in their emphasis on relationship, not on their claims about having a relationship. Again all religions claim to have some sort of relationship with their deity. That is in fact the general purpose of religion is it not?

"Considering the church violates government neutrality"

How so?

"Your history matters none.
2000 years of corruption and absence of supernatural activity hardly qualifies your church to be an active religion."

Simply dismissing 2,000 years of Christian history and practice with a wave will not work. Pointing to vague "corruption" does still not disqualify a religion from being a religion.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by Sophisto 3 years ago
Sophisto
You are both ridiculous and gullible.
Posted by Masterful 3 years ago
Masterful
The Old king does slumber no longer. The fate of man is to perish into the Earth from whence man came, to become one with the soil.
Salvation can only be obtained through the path of Beastial glory, worship thy King and rejoice in his eternal malice.

Drop thy holy books of propaganda and promises for now is the time to walk into a new age of salvation.

Do not try to join us, we will come for you.
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 3 years ago
FollowerofChrist1955
Oh and 2 rounds? Ludicrous.
Since you come from absolutely NO knowledge of the divine. it would take considerable discussion as you serve the Devil, and are intentionally kept Blind to be taken to Hell by Satan's design.
Posted by Sophisto 3 years ago
Sophisto
Your objections are noted.
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 3 years ago
FollowerofChrist1955
I could not accept this debate as it is completely wrong,and I would have had to take the Pro side of the argument and I cannot because it IS WRONG!
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 3 years ago
FollowerofChrist1955
NO
Relationships don't HAVE 1st amendment rights. 1st amendment is STRICTLY American. Not even the Countries have it! Only America.

To understand your part in Life you first must come to the realization of Reality.
YOUR REALITY is one of Slavery. you have only 1 right even NOW. IF you choose correctly, God offers you second right! IF you choose WRONG ... there IS NO 2nd right for you!

As to what your being told by Christians. Well you must understand that THEY are NOT IN the same boat as you, thus they have a tainted view, as they experience the LOVE of God. You do not! Evidence?

of Course; your RIGHT according to God ... ONLY 2
first Right- Deuteronomy 30:19
This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live

you have the right to choose-life and blessings OR Death and Curses

depending on YOUR CHOICE

RIGHT #2-John 1:12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God--

Course IF you chose Death, you don't GET the 2nd Right. and that 2nd right is to EARN Sonship, by obedience to Luke 9:23, Mark 8:34 and Matthew 16:24 which are REQUIREMENTS for Sonship/Discipleship, as ONLY THESE shall be Priests and Kings with right to SHARE in Christ Throne!

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