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kyle_16129
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BonelessAvocado
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Does Human Suffering Prove a Good God Cannot Exist

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Started: 8/8/2018 Category: Religion
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Debating Period
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kyle_16129

Con

For obvious reasons, I cannot possibly rationalize that a good, Moral, All knowing god could exist with such a common occurrence of severe human/animal suffering in the world.

1. With all of God's infinite power and strength, How could a good God possibly allow murder, Torture, And abuse to occur under his control. Such a God would either not be a good God, Or not be a rational god.

2. With all of the incurable diseases, Unwinnable wars, And unsolvable conflicts in the world, Why would a good god not intervene to provide a solution.

3. Why would a good God allow thousands of different religions to occur if there truly was only one god. A rational non conflicting god would only implement one religion into the world to prevent violence and disagreements among religious believers.

It is for these reasons that I absolutely cannot accept that a good all knowing and loving God could exist
BonelessAvocado

Pro

Almost everyone who doesn't believe in a God has the same or a similar reason to support their beliefs. These reasons can almost always be put under the umbrella of "If there is a God, Why do bad things happen? " Many people despise or don"t believe in God because they don"t know why He lets bad things happen. However, This common misconception can be resolved quite easily once you realize all the negative things in the world are the repercussions of people"s actions, Not God"s.

1. With all of God's infinite power and strength, How could a good God possibly allow murder, Torture, And abuse to occur under his control? Such a God would either not be a good God, Or not be a rational god.

You mentioned that God allows murder, Torture, And abuse to occur under his control. The latter is not true. Yes, There is murder, Torture, And abuse happening in the world, However, The world is not under his control. In the book of Genesis 1:26 God tells us that he created Humans to be in charge of everything on Earth. This planet was a gift God gave to us so that we could rule over it. God told us not to do things like murder or any sin for that matter but people did not listen. The only reason God allows this is because he gave us free will. Without free will, We wouldn"t be able to think or act for ourselves and this isn"t what God wanted for us so he gave us free will. God didn"t intend for us to use our free will for evil. Anytime someone does something evil it is not God"s fault, That person made a decision and we can not hold God accountable for the decisions of people because he made a promise to us that he wouldn"t stop us from doing anything, However, He did also tell us that if we choose the wrong evil, There will be consequences. (Deuteronomy 30:15-16)

2. With all of the incurable diseases, Unwinnable wars, And unsolvable conflicts in the world, Why would a good god not intervene to provide a solution?

Again, God is very aware of everything that goes on in the world and has provided a solution to all these problems as written in the Bible. If I were to sit here and type everything the Bible says about these issues this debate would be too long so I will simplify it as best I can. The reason God doesn't always intervene is that, Again, God gave us all free will. He gave us this world to do whatever we please with. He made a promise He would not stop us from making our own choices unless we want Him to. Again God has set boundaries for even Himself as if he wants us to be rulers, Not followers. He doesn't want to control us but he will if you simply ask Him to. Again by prayer. If you want God to intervene simply pray, And if you truly believe, He will do anything in His power to fix any problem. But as I mentioned earlier. He has his boundaries. He won"t just snap his fingers and kill all evil for many reasons including the fact that he loves us. He wants us to love Him. And He will continue to wait for us to realize what we are doing wrong until we come to his and ask for help.

3. Why would a good God allow thousands of different religions to occur if there truly was only one God? A rational non-conflicting god would only implement one religion into the world to prevent violence and disagreements among religious believers.

Again, God gave us free will to do whatever we want. I"m not trying to convert anyone right now but if you do your research you will find that Christianity is the first religion. All other religions came afterward and were created by people. As much as God doesn't want there to be multiple religions (Exodus 20:3-4) he allows it simply because he loves us and wants us to be free to do whatever we want. This problem with this is that some people have misused this free will to start conflict. God won"t interfere with this unless we ask Him.

To conclude my argument for this round I will sum up my argument into 4 points:
Stop blaming God for the actions of people because God gave us free will
God gave us free will because he loves us, It is up to people to decide what to do with it, Not God.
As much as God hates sin, He made a promise to not interfere with our choices unless we ask Him to through prayer
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