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Does "No Chance" mean the same thing as "No Balls"

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Started: 3/15/2019 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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killshot

Con

I assume we are referring to the common colloquial usages; with that assumption, no.

"No chance" is an expression referring to improbability.
"No balls" is an expression referencing courage.

They have different meanings and usages.
Debate Round No. 1
ArgumentsBelieveM8

Pro

Thank you for bringing up the topic of "probability"

Have you heard of conditional probability?

P(B|A) means "Event B given Event A"

In other words, Event A has already happened, Now what is the chance of event B?

P(B|A) is also called the "Conditional Probability" of B given A.

For someone to say "No chance" they have have to have "no balls" "No chance" is conditional on "No balls". Without one, The other ceases to exist.

If the 2 phrases are in fact different, Then according to your previous statement "one can have the balls do something, But there is no chance he/she will do it. " But if that is the case, Then the he/she would "do it" because he/she "has the balls to do said task" --> meaning there is a chance

Simply put, If someone has the balls to do something, There lies a chance that he/she will and the only way to prove that "he or she has the balls" to do "said task" is to do "said task" meaning that there in fact is a chance that one does "said task"
killshot

Con

The argument issued here is whether they two colloquial expressions mean the same thing. The argument is not whether they can be compounded together or organized into a conditional probability of co-dependence. The short answer is, They can coexist in the same logical statement and they can exist independently in separate logical statements.

Either way, They have their own usage and definitional meaning and therefore they do not mean the same thing; otherwise their co-usage would be redundant and interchangeable.
Debate Round No. 2
ArgumentsBelieveM8

Pro

I understand your viewpoint yet very respectfully disagree. Given that both terms are usually used in common conversation amgonst the youth in today's community. Therefore, I took the liberty of using "urban dictionary" to define the terms as well. Here are the definitions that I have found

"No Balls": Meaning almost nothing

"No Chance" : A word or expression derived from the St. Andrews vocabulary, Meaning to state that in an opinionated manner, There is absolutely no possibility of an event taking place

We can see here that they are ESSENTIALLY describing the same article (one can deem them as synonyms)

Although they may potentially differ by the slightest degree, The degree of similarity (in terms of the definition) is so high that they ultimately lead to the same expression, And can be used interchangeably.

https://www. Urbandictionary. Com/define. Php? Term=no%20balls

https://www. Urbandictionary. Com/define. Php? Term=NO%20CHANCE
killshot

Con

Since we're using urban dictionary as a source (LOL):

https://www. Urbandictionary. Com/define. Php? Term=you%27ve%20got%20no%20balls

This is the version of "no balls" I was referring to above. I was very clear with my definition in my beginning round; you however, Were not and you failed to correct my definition in the second round.

This definition is different from the colloquial expression "no chance".
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by melcharaz 3 years ago
melcharaz
except for the fact that taking a chance, Regardless of probablity is not entirely dependant on courage or said probability. There are many who had courage and didn't do and many without courage who ended up doing something they were forced or didn't want to do. In that case, You could argue it is courage to do something less risky and with less result of harm. Perception of what is courageous is key and the context of applying probablilty to or for courage.
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