Even though communism is considered as evil, Is the thought behind it logical and moral?

It is commonly believed throughout most of the world that Communism was a terrible way to govern a large group of people.

For example, In most Communist governments most of the population represented was extremely poor and lived off of as little as humanly possible, People were treated terribly, And the problem of poverty Communism attempted to solve only made it worse.

Even though it has been portrayed as evil, I believe that the thought of a classless society was ethical and just.

I'm not saying that I am for Communism, I am just stating that the thought behind Communism was ethical.

Here's why.

The main goal of Communism was to create a classless society where all people had similar amounts of personal belongings, Such as money, And actual personal belongings.
This situation was thought to create a decent living condition for everyone, And not just the economically better-off.

If you accept this debate, You may go ahead and write your argument for this round.

Thank you for presenting this opportunity, And it is my pleasure to be debating with you today.

The idea of Communism may seem ethical, But it ignores one fundamental thing: the amount of work one puts in.

In capitalism, If I put in a significant amount of work, I will receive significant dividends. If I do not put in any work, The amount of reward I get will be none. It is completely my fault that I did not do optimal work, And that if I had, I would be better off. The rewards an individual receives are in proportion to their effort.

However in communism, The idea is collectivised. The work done is taken as a total, And then divided equally among all. An extremely hard working person and one that does no work gets the same rewards!

So you're telling me that if I work hard for years, My reward is the exact same as another who was relaxing for his whole life?

To me, This is something completely unacceptable. We shouldn't live life leeching of the work of others, One's rewards should be based on how much one does, And not influenced by the rest of the population.

I do have to admit that your reason is quite good, So I researched a bit for this round and looked in the comments.

K_Michael_Tolman commented, "People who didn't work in a communist society would not keep their jobs. The government and parties still want results, And would promote those who work well and support the government. If you think you can get paid for doing nothing, You'll be sorely disappointed. You WILL still be supported for food and other necessities by the government, But you would not have a wage. "

Thank you for the comment.

In Communism, There are two major things that determine what your wage is. Your abilities/work and your needs.

I'll cover the abilities part first.

In Communism, The government selects your job. What job you would be best at, And what your best interests are. This system of job selection is effective in getting everyone the preferred job they want, While still taking into account how much skill or experience the worker has, Compared to capitalism, Where you need certain criteria to earn a job.

The reason for trying to get everyone a job they're good at is to make more for the nation itself.

Whereas in Capitalism, You may get a job you don't like or aren't paid fairly enough.

Now I'll cover the needs part.

The other way wage is decided is if you have more needs. For example, An average family man will earn more than an average single man, Because the family man will need to support and tend to his family, Versus the single man who only needs to tend to himself.

Whereas again in Capitalism, The job you might get may or may not support you and/or your family.

The floor is yours.

Indeed, I read the comment and I will admit that is true. If I work well, I would be promoted.
Yet my thoughts will slowly start to manifest around this central idea: "He does no work and yet has all his basic needs fulfilled, I work hard day and night and all I have is some more money. Maybe that existence isn't so bad". Following this, My productivity will decrease, And I will stagnate to the lowest possible level.

Granted, I have money, But what is the need for it? In a true Communist society, The existence of a currency is obsolete. In True Communism, Everything is shared and borrowed, Nothing is private. So what use does a currency have?

If I have no use of money, Nothing will make me work extra, As it gives me extra wages which are useless.

Coming to your part about abilities. It may occur that what I want to do is what I may not be very good at. Also, In capitalistic society, There are some criterion to get work. These criteria, When fulfilled, Show that someone has a certain amount of expertise and required skills. So hiring this person, As in contrast to somebody who merely "wants" the job, Will bring more dividends to the economy.

Returning to the question of the morality of Communism. In a communist society, One does not have access to private property or access to any intellectual property. Under the concept of "natural law", Private property and ownership of intellectual property are inviolable rights of humans.