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Evolution in proven fact. god of the bible is not (thankfully)

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Started: 7/9/2017 Category: Religion
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Evolution is proven fact
Antibiotic resistant microbes is 100% confirmation and certification and proven fact that evolution is taking place right here in the here and the now. Antibiotic resistant microbes are evolving every single second of every single day to become more resistant to antibiotics.

god of the bible (thankfully) is not proven fact

No matter which language you speak god is not proven fact.

1. My opponent cannot win the evolution side that was just listed. I will list another point to evolution that is also irrifutable in round 2 with videos. So only religion will be left to argue.

2. Why should this god be believed in when he is knowingly evil and thus creates evil, hates children, creates genocides, creates wars, bloodshed, has anger, wrath, vengeance, rage, fury, jealousy, in other words is completely immoral?
3. Prove god according to the bible exists



1. Life is not a bacteria.
2. All sentient Life of which any animal, human, be it carnivore, or herbivore, be it walking, crawling, flying or slithering is produced SOLELY by egg. Never in the History of Science, has a bacteria, Microbe ever produced a sentient creature, which grows to maturity, produces and cares for its offspring, protects its offspring, builds nests, burrows, homes, hatcheries or the like.

Here we have the epitome of self delusion. This person claims that because a bacteria, does a thing No Living Real Animal CAN DO in the entire world. Create a Microbe! Just as surely as a Microbe cannot create a baby animal. How desperate must one be to allow themselves to fall to the depths of human depravity. How can a soul, foresake even the most rudimentary intelligence, and worse how can a society, follow along in such absurdity, and then even dare to hope to survive in a world gone to such depths.

The question no longer is one of whether God exists or not, but whether man can possibly survive in such a delusional state with which he has allowed himself to Fall.

Indeed how can a being plunge to such decadence, such sheer stupidity ... and ever be seen as a creature of higher evolution ... indeed this person by all accounts is no more than a Microbe, despite the formation of bone and sinews from the egg of a human being, its brain that of less than a Microbe , forever doomed to the Hell of which he hoped to escape, yet has laid a trap for others to commit the same, act which is sending this one to the abode of eternal punishment. Let the those voters with such decadence join Him.

This however will not make a Lie truth. Merely a travesty of human intellect.
Debate Round No. 1


Can’t prove that your god exists huh?
Its not a surprise. So obviously you cannot prove that your god creates sentient beings. Therefore you do not have an argument and is amazingly hypocritical. Wow this is fun.

“1. Life is not a bacteria.” Really? According to what imbecile? You? How would you know? What grade of puppy litter sawdust raining from the sky graduation party shows your hourglass ability to judge right from left do you know anything from dirt to trash? I mean that has got to be the 2nd stupidest dumbest statement, and clearly without question shows an utter lack of edumacation on your part, that I’ve ever heard. Its only behind someone saying that one of the 10 commandments was overeating and obesity.
Bacteria 1.ubiquitous one-celled organisms, spherical, spiral, or rod-shaped and appearing singly or in chains, comprising the Schizomycota, a phylum of the kingdom Monera (in some classification systems the plant class Schizomycetes), various species of which are involved in fermentation, putrefaction, infectious diseases, or nitrogen fixation.
So would you now like to recant your ignorant statement? Or would you like to remain among to arrogant hippie culture with your frail ego like your god who is losing his followers each and every second of every day. Thankfully.
So evolution is taking place and is very easily proved. Too bad that you don’t like it. Deal with it. And those little buggies are indeed conquering your god and there’s nothing you can do about it. So since you are so pathetic and a true piece of lard why don’t you look up “Antibiotic resistant microbes” as well and “superbugs”.
2. Who cares if its sentient? That’s not what we’re talking about.

And absolutely the question is, is does your god exist? Because you know full well that you cannot prove that he does. Because that is what the topic is. So I really don’t care what you think. You don’t matter.
Now you go right ahead and you prove that your god created sentient beings.

There is no truth in believing in god unless you believe in hate. Your god hates children for jeez sakes. He causes massive genocides, loves war, hates women, loves raped women, loves bloodshed, etc etc etc and has freely admitted to... has anger management issues, has wrath, has evil, has vengeance, has rage, has fury, has jealousy etc etc etc. Jealousy? What? From a supposed supreme deity? Jealousy is nothing but anger as disguised fear. And then this god of yours did even worse as he passed down all those nice neat emotions down to man so in turn man could learn to hate. Great going god. Great going you for ignorantly and without any justifiable good reason for believing in him. Keep up the good work!

Oh I get it, so the only reason why I am going to hell is because I am not to believe in your precious savior who hates families before himself in which also you cannot prove your savior has ever existed also, and certainly has no magical powers to send me to a mythical heaven. But what is ridiculous is that the only violence that I’ve ever committed in my life was that I hit my brother in a fist fight when I was 8 or 9 and I am now 56 and by me simply being denied heaven because I will not believe in your savior. But wait, a serial killer who has murdered 5 six year old girls, chopped them up, raped and tortured them is going to get to heaven because he has found god and your savior. Now how pathetic and ridiculous is that?
Your religion is so asinine and lost and completely backwards that no matter what is said to you, even if someone were to agree with exactly what you believe in state and say, you would still manage to find fault with that person.


If you are going to continue with this debate, since you utterly failed to prove that evolution in not proven fact, you only have one out and that is to prove that god is proven fact as per what this debate is about. If you don't like it, tough. You can't get away with typical christian excuses and make miserable attempts to change the subjects which doesn't work. Or can’t you read main titles of themes/ debates? Please do not post me again unless you have something intelligent to say.



The Evolutionary Scientist William Kimbel States in his book

"Evolution as such was not original with Charles Darwin. But his theory on how evolution happens was.The concept of natural selection was Darwin"s wholly original idea, and it is the centerpiece of The Origin of Species.

This is the theory that accounts for the complexity of organisms and for their adaptations, those features that so wonderfully equip them for survival and reproduction; this is the theory that accounts for the divergence of species and thus for the boundless diversity of life. It is one of the most important ideas in biology, and one of the most important in the history of thought. The philosopher Daniel Dennett (1995) calls it "Darwin"s dangerous idea," because it replaces an entire worldview. It accounts for the appearance of design in living things. " ~ William H Kimbel

Yet what Pro discusses has nothing to do with divergence of Life at all. It encompasses only a single facet of so called Life. Where's natural selection in Pro's model? Indeed where is Life at all. While he embraces the microscopic Pro deliberately leaves out the entirety of the Life that evolutions Creator Darwin himself, aspired to decode. The 8 Million species from fly to whale!

Read The Origin of the Species penned by Darwin himself, you'll not see anywhere where he remains in the microscopic. Indeed his entire theory was based in the microscopic BECOMING actual LIFE. Need I remind you of the proverbial climbing out of the primordial ooze?

Pros fanciful model leaves the "climbing out" completely out. This is many things but the definition of evolution by Darwin and Merriam-Webster, are left completely out. Despite the repeated claims of countless Scientists, unless one can SHOW by experimentation the possibility of the Microbes, or bacterial ability to breech the chasm between the microscopic and the living visible World, IT IS doomed to failure, a red herring, a kind of Fools Gold of yesteryear. Surely we have matured further than that?

Since the introduction in 1937 of the first effective antimicrobials, namely, the sulfonamides, the development of specific mechanisms of resistance has plagued their therapeutic use. Sulfonamide resistance was originally reported in the late 1930s, and the same mechanisms operate some 70 years later. A compilation of the commonly used antibiotics, their modes of action, and resistance mechanisms is shown in Table 1. Penicillin was discovered by Alexander Fleming in 1928, and in 1940, several years before the introduction of penicillin as a therapeutic, a bacterial penicillinase was identified by two members of the penicillin discovery team (1). Once the antibiotic was used widely, resistant strains capable of inactivating the drug became prevalent, and synthetic studies were undertaken to modify penicillin chemically to prevent cleavage by penicillinases (^6;-lactamases). Interestingly, the identification of a bacterial penicillinase before the use of the antibiotic can now be appreciated in the light of recent findings that a large number of antibiotic r genes are components of natural microbial populations (43). Which came first, the antibiotic or resistance?
Check out the dates here?

Pros earth shaking headline?
Evolution is proven factAntibiotic resistant microbes is 100% confirmation and certification and proven fact that evolution is taking place right here in the here and the now. Antibiotic resistant microbes are evolving every single second of every single day to become more resistant to antibiotics.

Course the microbes have only been doing that since what 1930's? Darwin died in 1882, to bad he wasn't around to shout "WE'VE DONE IT" in 1930. Coulda saved us all a lot of hand wringing waiting for the Scientist to catch on to that here in the 2000's eh? .... Noobs.

As to Proof of God?
In approximately 700 BC, the prophet Micah named the tiny village of Bethlehem as the birthplace of Israel's Messiah (Micah 5:2). The fulfillment of this prophecy in the birth of Christ is one of the most widely known and widely celebrated facts in history. Accuracy 100%

In the fifth century BC, a prophet named Zechariah declared that the Messiah would be betrayed for the price of a slave"thirty pieces of silver, according to Jewish law-and also that this money would be used to buy a burial ground for Jerusalem's poor foreigners (Zechariah 11:12-13). Accuracy 100%

Some 400 years before crucifixion was invented, both Israel's King David and the prophet Zechariah described the Messiah's death in words that perfectly depict that mode of execution. Further, they said that the body would be pierced and that none of the bones would be broken, contrary to customary procedure in cases of crucifixion (Psalm 22 and 34:20; Zechariah 12:10). Accuracy 100%

The prophet Isaiah foretold that a conqueror named Cyrus would destroy seemingly impregnable Babylon and subdue Egypt along with most of the rest of the known world. This same man, said Isaiah, would decide to let the Jewish exiles in his territory go free without any payment of ransom (Isaiah 44:28; 45:1; and 45:13) Accuracy 100%

I could keep going but let's use one that will be fulfilled before YOUR EYES and become your History on the 23rd of September 2017. Accuracy 100%

Revelation 12 "A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.2"She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 5"She gave birth to a son, a male child, who "will rule all the nations with an iron scepter."

This will pass into Human History on 23 September 2017.

So what do we have then?
1. We have a foretelling of a future event written IN THE BIBLE 2000 years ago which describes A PRECISE EVENT in the skies above Earth.2. It was written thousands of years in advance, before Newton, or astronomers were even a thing.3. It IS coming to pass ON 23 September 2017 precisely as described.

on December 23rd 2016 the sign of Virgo ( the virgin) became great with child ( Jupiter- called the King planet) this sounding familiar to anyone out there? Jupiter began a 9 MONTH retrograde motion, remaining IN Virgo until 23 September 2017 WHEN the King planet (king is indicative of a Male child) leaves the womb of Virgo.Let's look deeper.

On the 23rd of September, there will be the sign of Leo ( The Lion of Judah- another name for your God) above Virgo, that is a total of 9 Stars BUT on this Day, the planets Venus Mercury and Mars will be in conjunction at the feet of Leo that makes 12 Stars above Virgo head ON 23 September 2017.Sunrise at her head and moon at Virgos Feet.

Now let's go back over Revelation 12

A great sign appeared in heaven- Check
a woman- Virgo the Virgin-Check
She was pregnant- King Planet in Virgo- Check
a crown of twelve stars on her head.- Leo 9 + Venus, Mercury and Mars 3=12-Check
clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet- on the 23rd -Check
She gave birth to a son, a male child- (King obviously Male child) -Check and MateYeah

I know complete and total denial .... based on what? ZERO, just an emotional response to an unchangeable event. As to the LAST statement of Revelation 12. It shall remain unexplained .... because it is my choice to not explain it.So believe what you want but, Science is batten zero while Your God has hit 100% each time EVERY time!

Uhh, yeah, that you don't acknowledge Him? Does not negate that He IS your God. Your Judge and Jury. On the side of the Christian stands Jesus, on your side stands .... well you know!
Debate Round No. 2


Still can't prove your god exists huh? Not a surprise.
Wow. Astonishing at the absolute lack there of you have at know how of the human mind as your roach meat brain completely shuts down when an actual thought hits.
What you say with William Kimbel has nothing, squat in other words to do with this conversation. So it will be discarded and not read.

“Yet what Pro discusses has nothing to do with divergence of Life at all.” Oh yes it most certainly does but then again my darling little maggot opponent cannot read “Antibiotic resistant microbes is 100% confirmation and certification and proven fact that evolution is taking place right here in the here and the now. Antibiotic resistant microbes are evolving every single second of every single day to become more resistant to antibiotics.” Now what part of that don’t you understand?

“It encompasses only a single facet of so called Life.” Did you look it up like I told you to? Nope of course not. Scientists know far better than your granny fart braided armpits. All of your microscopic questions are answered.

A little antibiotic history? What is today’s date? So what you stated is are you ready? Drumroll please……………………… outdated. Oh and btw, I didn’t even read it. I only looked at the dates to see how ineffective your misery of evidence is.

Now let’s get to the proving of god because no one is history has been able to. This will be fun.

How can you prove something that’s never once been proven by anyone? There’s not been one sighting? Not one report, not one test to prove that your god exists.

“In approximately 700 BC, the prophet Micah…” A sighting by one person, is not proof. And you have no proof of this either because not one prophesy of the bible has ever come true as of yet. Not one.

I said prove god. I couldn’t care less about some seedy messiah who cared more for his greedy little self and wanted to toss families aside and brothers and sisters and all friends aside for his greedy little self. Try harder. And regardless you still have no proof that your precious messiah even existed.

Again I sais prove god. NEXT:

“The prophet Isaiah foretold…” doesn’t prove god. Quoting something from somewhere doesn't prove god.

No you can’t keep going. You have nothing. You are a worthless completely brainwashed nobody that has to invent excuses that NOBODY will agree with you except for maybe .00000001% of all christians on this planet.

Oh really? Something is going to happen on September 23 2017? According to what imbecile? You? How would you know? What grade of immature lack-there-of-wee-folk of nothingness blew you in from deathsville to give any information that has been given from other religions that have predicted the same thing, just on different days as all religions do? Christianity is no different nor special.
Its not we. Its you.

The king planet? What is the King planet for all of us to know? Sheesh. Invent better excuses. K snookums?

I don’t have a god. So don’t say “your god”. Got it?

Let’s not go back over revelation because you are clearly a mental state of depraved fertility and wow do you need a touch of a venus fly trap or something I dunno. Get out of the house for jeez sakes.

If my opponent could actually prove god, hey like billions of others could actually prove god, then there would only be one religion. god would make instantaneous headlines, would be on all TV’s, on all internet broadcasts and on all media circus rings all across the world advertising his superior egotistical hateful reigns. So why hasn’t this happened? It hasn’t happened because god does not exist. There’s nothing tangible about god. There’s no tests that he has passed, that he can take to prove his existence. So until this occurs, unless you are extremely gullible and believe in utter hate and evil in which god is as the bible has proclaimed and god has admitted to being evil, anger, wrath, vengeance, rage, fury, jealousy… what? jealousy? Jealousy is nothing but anger as disguised fear. And then this god neatly passed down those emotions so in turn man could learn to hate. It is the mere belief in this god that creates all this pain and suffering. Who of right mind and educated intelligence wants to believe in that? Oh I get it my opponent.

I’ve been doing this for 40+ years and have talked with roughly 25,000 people. And rarely do I ever get someone who is so committed to their hallucinations that they are gone from reality and have invented some type of a cow chirp tinker toy bubonic plague world to play in. This so-called opponent cannot be reasoned with, has no logic barriers, has no common sense, clearly has no ability to think on his own, he has no ability to rationalize anything that he can thus conceptualize and call his hum drum kingdom. He’d clearly be better off with Jack T Chick ( than with anyone else that has ever lived. What a horrifying thought for anyone to think or dream.


Pros statement:
Still can't prove your god exists huh? Not a surprise.; What you say with William Kimbel has nothing, squat in other words to do with this conversation. So it will be discarded and not read.
A little antibiotic history? What is today"s date? So what you stated is are you ready? Drumroll please""""""""" outdated. Oh and btw, I didn"t even read it.

My response:
So you don't CARE about truth. Your just making noise? Well, had you read it, what you would have seen is that your CLAIM? Was old news ever since 1930 and it didn't prove evolution in the 1930's when those Microbes resisted antibiotics. Why would it mean that now? Because a New Scientist noticed it and didn't bother to research it from old scientific studies?
Pros statement:
Now let"s get to the proving of god because no one is history has been able to.

My response:
You just SAID you don't READ, you don't research, you never bother to DO anything but talk? So that statement " That no one in history" is a flat out lie? How can you make that statement when we cannot trust you to even research on your OWN subject of evolution.

That your research consist of you sitting on your butt talking to people. .. and these people are not Scientist, or Biblical Scholars or theologians, just people whom may or may NOT do any more research than YOU DO. Yet you announce not only that you don't study for yourself, you don't read anyone else's opinion or research material, you just sit in the cellar of your mind and have the audacity to make such encompassing statements as :

Evolution is proven ....pffffft
There's no proof of God ..... pfffft
all the while announcing for all to read that you don't ever read evidence or Research the data you are provided.

Well... okay you got me this time. But your now blocked from ever accepting challenges to debate with me. I recommend everybody else do the same. Why challenge when you've not the honesty to wage battle?

How can you match wits, when you never bother to LEARN anything? Never research data. Just set their and regurgitate others opinions? SIGH.... you just suck the soul right out of a debate.

Well YOU don't deserve answers. So this is for the Readers who DO want to know and are looking for something to expand their knowledge of religion ON the Religion board.

The evidence provided is factual, as described by historical documents including those of secular history, including the works of Titus Flavius Josephus
His most important works were The Jewish War (c."75) and Antiquities of the Jews

In addition to the Biblical narratives available in all languages available online from

In addition to the internal and textual reliability of the gospels, external sources can also be used to assess historical reliability. There are passages relevant to Christianity in the works of four major non-Christian writers of the late 1st and early 2nd centuries " Josephus, Tacitus, Suetonius, and Pliny the Younger. Of the four, Josephus' writings, which document John the Baptist, James the Just, and Jesus, are of the most interest to scholars dealing with the historicity of Jesus. Tacitus, in his Annals written c. 115, mentions Christus, without many historical details (see also: Tacitus on Jesus). There is an obscure reference to a Jewish leader called "Chrestus" in Suetonius. (According to Suetonius, chapter 25, there occurred in Rome, during the reign of emperor Claudius (c. AD 50), "persistent disturbances ... at the instigation of Chrestus".[citation needed]Mention in Acts of "After this, Paul left Athens and went to Corinth. There he met a Jew named Aquila, a native of Pontus, who had recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla, because Claudius had ordered all the Jews to leave Rome." Additionally, many New Testament passages misquote texts from the Hebrew Tanakh.[164] A basic prophecy appears to be completely made up by an author of the Gospel of Matthew without any source.[25]
For those unblinded by self agenda, and seek the Truth of God.

My reviews statements regarding the authenticity of the scriptures and proofs presented. Can only be viewed from two standpoints.

Coincidence: a remarkable concurrence of events or circumstances without apparent causal connection. synonyms:
accident, chance, serendipity, fortuity, providence, happenstance, fate; a fluke


Foreknowledge ~awareness of something before it happens or exists.

1. Meaning of the Term:
The word "foreknowledge" has two meanings. It is a term used in theology to denote the prescience or foresight of God, that is, His knowledge of the entire course of events which are future from the human point of view; and it is also used in the King James Version and the Revised Version (British and American) to translate the Greek words proginoskein and prognosis in the New Testament, in which instances the word "fore-knowledge" approaches closely the idea of fore- ordination.

This perfect knowledge of God, moreover, is not merely a knowledge which is practically unlimited for all religious purposes, but is omniscience in the strictest sense of the term. In the historical books of the Old Testament the omniscience of God is a constant underlying presupposition when it is said that God watches men's actions, knows their acts and words, and discloses to them the future; while in the Psalms, Prophets and Wisdom literature, this Divine attribute becomes an object of reflection, and finds doctrinal expression. It cannot, however, be said that this attribute of God appears only late in the history of special revelation; it is a characteristic of the Biblical idea of God from the very first, and it is only its didactic expression which comes out with especial clearness in the later books. God's knowledge, then, is represented as perfect. Since He is free from all limits of space.

I bear witness to you of a personal knowledge of the fact of Gods omniscience. Further I bear witness and attest that such awareness not only IS possible to and for you through the one thing that is not done by Pro nor those like him ... Personal investigation.

There are some here today who will not be here, next week. For them this may be your only chance to escape the reality of Hell. It is my hope you will take this opportunity to check for yourself.

To even attempt to suggest that history was called 100% correct in the Bible 5 TIMES out of 5 examples .... more importantly that the 5th example has not occurred but WILL occur future to our discussions here, is a testament to that personal word of advise given to YOU SPECIFICALLY by God Himself in a book written thousands of years ago ....

Isaiah 44:6-8English Standard Version (ESV)
Besides Me There Is No God
Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel""""and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:;"I am the first and I am the last;;""""besides me there is no god.
Who is like me? Let him proclaim it.;""""Let him declare and set it before me, since I appointed an ancient people.""""Let them declare what is to come, and what will happen.
Fear not, nor be afraid;""""have I not told you from of old and declared it?;""""And you are my witnesses!;Is there a God besides me?""""There is no Rock; I know not any."

on September 23rd you to shall be His witness, when you SEE with your own eyes the 5th prophecy become History.

My question is .... what will you do with your new found knowledge? Perhaps for the FIRST time in your life ... you have a chance to save not only yourself, but those you love. It's up to you now.
Good luck
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by kwagga_la 2 years ago

Good job! you got Backwards to help spread the good news. He states:

"I called up/ emailed to all of my friends"

He may be blind, but perhaps someone will see the light after all...
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 2 years ago
Perish in ignorance then.
Posted by backwardseden 2 years ago
As stated, I didn't read it. You are far too laughably snicker snick gone from this universe to be taken seriously. The evidence I've put forth is proof and has been proven and thus is a proven. Darn it. I know that p**ses you off that you just cannot get to me. Darn it gosh golly gee.
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 2 years ago
WRONGO, you got nothing .... now thing you provide exceeds the microscopic. Until you can show that evolution can go from microscopic to the Real world of the living. It's toast! YEAH! check and Mate!!!!!
Posted by backwardseden 2 years ago
Um no you cannot tear evolution apart. I proved that to an arrogant chop suey like you who is a swallow preschooler who flies in his stomach goes way to south for his breeding grounds in the summer and winter. Your religion can be proven false in every language ever invented. Only a stupid god like yours would ever communicate in text, the worst form of communication possible.
Again Antibiotic resistant microbes is 100% confirmation and certification and proven fact that evolution is taking place right here in the here and the now. Too bad christians. god is a loser. Antibiotic resistant microbes are evolving every single second of every single day to become more resistant to antibiotics. That's hardcore evidence that evolution is taking place and you with your whimsical remarks cannot refute it.
Oh and btw, I didn't even bother reading your final round 3 debacle. No need. No requirement. No necessity. Especially after the complete failure of your round 2 laughter and hysteria that you composed for round 2 in which I called up/ emailed to all of my friends so they could get a good laugh. I mean are you serious? A pumpkin coming to life with a knife and running amok on Halloween has more credibility and integrity than you.
Its a shame that the only friend you have on this planet is now deceased. His name was Jack T. Chick. The two of you would have probably b**ched at each other till heaven burns in hell. And yet you probably agree on everything. You can check him out on
You really are one of the dumbest, stupidest, most ridiculous people that I have ever come across. And I am a lot smarter, more intelligent, a lot more educated and I will always know a lot more about your god, religion and bible than you ---ever--- will.
I'm so very glad that I made your day better. Your next post will justly and rightly be ignored. Please do not post me again unless you have something intelligent to say.
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 2 years ago
Hehehe Canis if you had a brain you'd be dangerous.

When will you ACTUALLY provide the PROOF. I'd tear you or any proof you atheist have on Evolution to shreds. That's why you atheist are all talk. Cause the only way you can PROVE evolution is VERBALLY, you can't SHOW evidence.

Every EVIDENCE on RECORD ends with an UNSUCCESSFUL result.
That MEANS .... they created nothing but bacteria NONE of which has ever BECOME anything BUT microscopic bacteria.

Even a gnat is bigger than that! Evolution will remain FALSE a Microbe LEAVES the microscopic and CRAWLS into OUR WORLD.

I ve proven God .... 5 out of 5 100% accurate events foretold 100s and thousands of years IN ADVANCE.
You can call it whatever you want. But you cannot alter Truth.

That Means there IS a HELL, and you ARE going there, aren't you? I wish you wasn't, but I cannot help you if you refuse to use your head.

That's your choice.
Posted by canis 2 years ago
Evolution is a proven fact...No religion ever was...Religion is a dream that some people dream...
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 3 years ago
Great question. My take is neither. Like the Pharisees, atheists hate Jesus. For the Pharisees it was all about them and what they believed, not the truth. Same here. Atheist may be viewed as nonbelievers but that isn't true at all. They straddle no fences, they know what they believe like the Pharisees they vehemently REJECT Christ in every way.

This is why so many immature believers feel obligated to coddle an atheist. I tell them to let them have it, under the authority of Christ. Mostly misunderstanding Christians are shocked and quote scriptures about being courteous to them. Not true though. Remember the seven woes of Jesus.... He let them (Pharisees) have it.

Christ spoke of unbelievers. Atheist though unbelieving IN God, are not unbelievers. They REJECT Christ and God as a whole. Not only do they NOT know Hm, they don't WANT to know Him, that is the difference. Only an atheist will fight you about God.

An unbeliever doesn't fight you. He merely makes comments about not knowing God. You'll not here them flat reject God. They Allow YOU to believe. Atheist call you names. Christ jumped on them, so can you. I mean it's okay to let them know their going to Hell, because it's the truth. We're not proud of it?

But if you don't tell them the truth, that isn't going to change the fact that their going does it? Who knows maybe fear will get them to change? Love doesn't work in them? Despite them being a pain? Their still worth fighting for. Because God loves them. So I choose to fight with them FOR THEM. Saving just one, is worth the battle. Just sayin.
Posted by kwagga_la 3 years ago
@FollowerofChrist1955 Something that looked strange to me about the title of this Debate is that the words "thankfully" was added at the end. Do you think that perhaps suggest a sign of relief on Pro's part or an excuse to keep on living as though there is no one to be accountable too?
Posted by backwardseden 3 years ago
@MrDelaney Actually I am working on a debate right now entitled "Absurdities in the bible that no god would ever put into effect thus proving that god is false" And then there would be the eunuch verse obviously along with about 8 others for starters and I'd keep a few for backups into other rounds and make it a 5 round fist fight.
But I like to make my debates stupid, dumb, fun, and not BORING as so many are. I don't care about grammar. I don't care about if someone has better conduct unless its way way wayyyyy off the ledgers. What does matter is who has the more convincing debate/ argument? That outweighs them all. But for this sight to portray it as an equal to the others, well that's wrong. And the conduct one, well on a live debate how many go completely overboard? The presidential debates are perfect examples. But if its one thing that I will not deal with its those that invent excuses for something in which they know nothing about and yet they try to pretend that they do. Wow are christians ever so prominent on that subject galore. They can't simply say "I don't know". No they have to invent excuses. And its so fricken obvious. If that happens, I'm sorry the hammer comes down and I insult them galore. I learned that one in college. I mean really who wants to spend any time with those types of people and if they keep doing it, and if they don't already, they will soon have no friends or loved ones. And so so so many people here have no friends or loved ones because of it. Again its so obvious.
Yeah A Clockwork Orange. A great film. Are you into films? If so what are a few of your favs?
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