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novilona
Con (against)
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2far4u2CharlesDarwin
Pro (for)

Feminism. Gender equality. Will it be someday achieved?

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Started: 4/14/2018 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Debating Period
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novilona

Con

I would say that this question arises another one: haven"t we actually yet achieved equality? Probably, not complete but relative one. Complete equality is fundamentally impossible as men and women are created different both in physiological and phycological ways. There is no way a woman will work in coalmines (quite a popular example) just because she is physically weaker than men. And it is not sexism, it"s the fact. There are more women working as teachers not because women were born to bring up children, but because they are usually more emotional and empathetic, so children feel more comfortable with them. And it is not sexism towards men! There are always exceptions to the rules. Besides, people are different not just in terms of gender but in terms of individuality.
Concerning equality in payment and the situation in working sphere on the whole, well, I am not sure how it works in other countries but here a person gets money not for being a male or a female, but on the basis of its work experience, position, qualification and so on. Plus, candidates are offered job on account of their skills and qualification again. And in theory, an employer has to pay wages for good work to good workers, not for being a man or a woman. So, if you want to earn more, you need to do your best rather than just to complain.
Speaking of taking high position. Again what do feminists try to fight for? Equal portion of men and women on high posts? It shouldn"t work like this. If a woman really wants to achieve something, she will do it. There are a great number of examples of such women. One have to strive for its goals to make oneself heard and noticed. Complaining, stamping one"s feet and shouting "We require!" will not help a lot.
In majority of countries women have a right to vote. That was the initial goal which was achieved. Women have the right to work, to earn money, to express themselves, to move freely, to choose the way of life they wants to live (whether to marry, or to make a career, or both). If to talk about counries where women are quite restricted in their rights, well, then here arise the ethnologic and, simultaneously, ethical questions. Women there are traditionally in a lower position. And it is a matter of culture and religion. If one asks these women whether they are satisfied with their status, the majority will probably answer "yes". As it is the way they are used to living, it is in their mentality. Many of them might even not know another kind of life. So, for nations with great influence of religion or traditions it is unlikely to achieve equality. And western countries should definitely stop peddle these ideas to them.
2far4u2CharlesDarwin

Pro

I once met a nun a sister of the cloth. Now for her namesake, was as I recall Sister Margaret. Now, sister Margaret was in the front line of the bra burners here in Australia. Know this hurts as that noble soul is not with us anymore.

So all I can say is go girl give it all you've got just like you did in life. Back to Sister magrets advice and what her passion for feminism was. This is what was said between us as best I remember back before women that now think more so to the likes of cats and men that think as the likes of dogs.
Was; women needed to be equal with men for humanities sake. But some wanted and still want to be better than men. Now, this is where the family unit's structure has fallen away by the wayside. We have our roles Dad will be the bad cop and mum is the good cop. So until we give the world back to the children of tomorrow then we have failed them all. As a gift is a gift that is justly given away as a gift. You know to pass on the baton in the relay. To pass on the gauntlet to the next.

We are not here for long are we and unconditional love is but a parents. Teach yourself and your children the difference between passion, frustration and anger get them to realise to mean what you say and say what you mean as it is never mean if it comes from the heart but sometimes we need to be cruel to be kind. And never become disappointed as it equals nothing to be bitter.

Peace be with you while every woman is longing for the man and every man is longing for women. Two sides of a coin and all that divides us are 360 degrees upon an edge that is no more then it's own thickness.
Debate Round No. 1
novilona

Con

Well... To be honest, I hardly understood anything from what you had written.
Could you, please, be more precise and closer to the topic?
2far4u2CharlesDarwin

Pro

Bra burners where the fighters for equality here in Australia when I was a child. Here women were not allowed to even vote and were classified as lesser than men for the sake of the family and I suppose some still chose to be that way with feminism.
Now I do you agree with this? Women of today are like a cat's, possessive, wild and you don't own them they own you.
Men are like dogs, loyal and vicious.
The man to do list to keep his wife happy is to inspire the wild within his partner and to keep the pictures in the photo albums anew. He also needs to be the bad cop but a loving caring cop but not take the wife's roll in the rearing of her children he also needs to be in terms of the wife's reasoning even throughout the week when he is better off hiding in the shed out the back that has a mandatory big sign man only.

Behind every smart man, there is a smarter woman. Now, what does that actually mean?
Now a smarter woman gives her husband a blow job for his birthday and sometimes even as a special treat. Doing this makes her dog loyal and if she is even smarter she will cook good meals and wash his clothes and even get a beer for him from time to time without even being asked.
I kid you not this works also with doing the same for your wife fellers but don't take her job away from her just help don't take over thinking you can do a better job of it.

Now equality someday is not to be a good little slavey and life isn't all about the pissing contest of the elitist's Skinner box stupidity it's all about being humane towards your family and your extended family of friends, but don't spread yourself thin for your own sake and your own families. Prioritise your needs from your wants, Health first, Family second, Career third and guess what life is easy and the kids learn by example. So mean what you say and say what you mean as it is never mean if it comes from the heart. But sometimes we need to be cruel to be kind and don't forget the golden rule.

Now equality in the workplace well that's a bitch be it a man bitch or a women bitch. It ain't a pretty picture. But here goes; An employer knows that a woman has babies and many times more so with many jobs can't do the work of men. Not to say that women don't specialise in many fields that a man cannot. You see why to take on an apprentice if they can't carry the load also if you do employ women, a man works not only to get away from the misses and the kids, won't give it up his job to have a family. He may take time off but not very often. An employer loves dads and mums because kids are the future taxpayers.

I am a male and I know that I have overstepped the mark here but hey live and let live and peace be with you.
Debate Round No. 2
novilona

Con

I can agree that equality is about humanity, and not only towards family but towards each and every person. But humanity is some kind of utopia, which consequently cannot be completely achieved as long as different culture and particular mentality are alive.
In terms of other thing... Actually I still do not see your point. It"s too vague.
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