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Filing a fake police force is as bad as commiting the crime

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Started: 2/18/2019 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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billsands

Pro

If you fake a hate crime or a rape, You discredit the 99% of honest reports and make it hard for real victims to be taken seriously, You are just as bad as erson who commits the violence and you need to suffer for it
sillydebater

Con

A fake police force has no jurisdiction nor power to do anything, Regardless of how you file them (single, Double, Etc. . ). Also, While a fake police force trying to exert power over others by pretending to be a real police force is a a heinous activity and one that is almost universally a crime, They can't really be doing that if you are occupying them all by filing them.

Thus, Filing a fake police force is not as bad a committing the crime (whatever that crime may be).
Debate Round No. 1
billsands

Pro

filing a false police report is a class d felony it is a serious crime
sillydebater

Con

I agree. At the same time, Filing a false police force is not a crime at all. It actually happens all the time when they set up for shoots on movie sets.

(As an aside, While filing a false police report about a murder is a class d felony, Attempted murder is a class b felony. So, By definition, Attempted murder is punished more severely than lying about an attempted murder. To put it another way, Trying to kill someone is worse than saying someone tried to kill you [unless your objective is to get them killed via the death penalty, In which case it amounts to the same thing]).
Debate Round No. 2
billsands

Pro


You used to get along really well with your next-door neighbor, But the relationship has quickly soured. His raucous, All-night party (which kept your infant awake until dawn) was the final straw, Prompting you to call the police. But since they didn't break up the party or even knock on his door, You've decided to get your revenge by filing a police report claiming your neighbor stole your bike (which, In reality, You had lent him a couple of weeks ago).


But soon after the police show up at your neighbor's house, They're knocking on your front door. Turns out, Your neighbor showed them a text message exchange in which you've agreed to lend him your bike. Now you're the one facing criminal charges for filing a false police report.


This is an example of speech that is not protected by the First Amendment and is in fact considered a crime against justiceitself. Legal specifics vary by jurisdiction, But the following information provides a general overview of the crime.


sillydebater

Con

I think we're not communicating well here. Of course there's no argument that filing a fake police report is crime. It's there black and white in our laws. But there also seems to be no argument that filing a fake police force is not a crime, As there is no law against filing a fake police force. And it's the latter that's the topic at hand.

That said, As you pointed out, There are various classifications and degrees of crime, Which set up how "bad" a crime is considered to be. Filing a police report is a worse crime than stealing a bike, But attempted murder is a worse crime than filing a fake police report. Again, Though, All of that doesn't speak to the statement of debate.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by EverlastingMoment 3 years ago
EverlastingMoment
Personally to some extent I agree with the motion. In the case a woman falsely files a report claiming that she has been raped by so-and-so then the repercussions are severe for the innocent man.
Even if he was proven innocent, Most of the time that man will get shunned by his community. And it will be difficult for him to wash off that charge.
Posted by omar2345 3 years ago
omar2345
"Filing a fake police force is as bad as commiting the crime"
No it isn't. A murder is worse than lying about a murder. We shouldn't be punishing the same also because yes they did lie but they didn't murder.
Posted by DeletedUser 3 years ago
DeletedUser
I think con took the title of the debate literally. Maybe edit the debate or restart it so he/she won"t be confused and end up wasting the rounds.
Posted by Eugenious 3 years ago
Eugenious
I don't know if I would go as far to say that they are just as bad as someone who actually commits the act, But I see what you mean. There's a lot of sense in that.
-Eugenious
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