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SilverishGoldNova
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AltDialect
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Flat Earth

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Started: 12/20/2017 Category: Science
Updated: 9 months ago Status: Debating Period
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SilverishGoldNova

Pro

Sorry about that obvious troll... anyway. If you want a serious debate on this topic, come see me.
Round 1. Acceptance
Round 2. Arguments
Round 3. Rebuttals
Round 4. Counter-rebuttals
AltDialect

Con

I accept. It would be good to have a real debate rather than argue with someone who has the brain span of a fourteen-year-old.
Debate Round No. 1
SilverishGoldNova

Pro

I guess I can just C/P my arguments from another debate. There are alot of arguments here, so take your time and do your research

Contention #1. The Chicago Skyline

It is one of the most compelling arguments which convinced me into a flat Earth [1]. According to the globe Earth model, this should be impossible, and Chicago should instead disappear over the horizon. However, this is not the case. The common explanation is that this is just a mirage, but if you have actually seen a mirage you will know this is not true [2].

Contention #2. No evidence of curvature.

We are widely told we can see curvature at a height of around 35K Feet, the typical range where airplanes typically fly at. There have been reports of seeing curvature outside of an airplane window, but this has been debunked many times before. The curved glass of an airplane window will distort curvature [3]. We also have images showing no curvature from 80K feet, 121K feet, and 317K Feet [4] [5].

Many images allegedly showing curvature from similar heights have been shown to simply be hoaxes, or were blatantly recorded using a fish eye lense. Heres a humoruous example [6]. We have also caught NASA admitting to faking images. "The last time anyone took a photograph from above low Earth orbit that showed an entire hemisphere (one side of a globe) was in 1972 during Apollo 17". If you read further, we also have them saying that they stitched a "flat map" collected with satelite data onto a ball. Interesting [7]. Not only this, but there are videos throughouly debunking the 2 images they just don't wanna admit are fake, as throughougly as my debunking of the rest of "photographic evidence" [8] [9].

Contention #3. Flight Patterns

There are many flight patterns that, while they make absolutely no sense on a spherical Earth, make sense on a flat Earth. First off, looking at Antarctica, we know none of these flight patterns exist [10]. We know these are impossible on a flat Earth (especially if you have seen a flat Earth map) [11], but are possible on a globe Earth and infact, would result in shorter flight times. We are often told these flights do not exist because it is too cold. However, we are also told we have sent probes to outer space, which is MUCH more frigid. It is more of an excuse than an explanation.

[12] [13] Then look at this. On a ball earth, during a flight to Johannesburg to Perth, it should be a straight shot over the ocean and we should be able to land for refueling in Mauritus or Madagascar. But instead, most flights will stop in Dubai, Hong Kong, or Malaysia. It should also be a straight shot over the atlantic to go to Johannesburg to Sao Paulo, but many flights instead make a re-feuling in London, which would be impossible on a spherical Earth.

Contention #4. Standing water never curves

The natural physics of water is to find and maintain its level. If Earth were a giant spinning sphere tilting and hurling through space then truly flat, consistently level surfaces would not exist here. There would be a massive bulge of water in the oceans because of the curvature of the earth. If earth was curved and spinning the oceans of water would be flowing down to level and covering land. Some rivers would be impossibly flowing uphill. There would massive water chaos and flooding! What we would see and experience would be vastly different! But since Earth is in fact an extended flat plane, this fundamental physical property of luids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense. Frankly, all you need to do to persuade me into a globe is to show me some curved standing water.[14].

Contention #5. The arctic midnight sun.

My final argument for this round is the arctic midnight sun. This article explains it better than I could [15].

Sources:

1. youtube.com/watch?v=vWWokHgzxHA

2. gyazo.com/1d9159dce303b23ab2301abbe1cdcef7

3. photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMJEGjMR9YUv8g6cT5mVrbOCpYi2AtKa1Ty4gFdkRsDueZHhZPWDnMZv6NFP3nXPg?
key=TFQwb2ZDOVlwOTZ1MWJraThnSHI4ZjNwRDlfeWpR

4. i.imgur.com/VyLNeGa.jpg

5. photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOBHWKzpDKBew5j94MHx335hYJz5pgjbeTqVVMG3_VknYDtJwjbCA4TGxpmSKp_PQ?key=ZVZEbEZmQVExVndzRjdvQnVzTXA4YW95VnZSTzVn

6. scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24909797_201115210456444_6871387145744944406_n.jpg?oh=960f7db1365321e123a6c18b17b96d15&oe=5ACB6327

7. nasa.gov/centers/goddard/about/people/RSimmon.html

8. youtube.com/watch?v=ZC8wYukRsdQ

9. youtube.com/watch?v=knaW-GxMDXw

10. imgur.com/6XPJvF2

11. ih0.redbubble.net/image.199144701.2383/flat,800x800,070,f.jpg

12. planetruthblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/fe-air-map-2.jpg

13. planetruthblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/fe-air-map-4.png

14. flatearthscienceandbible.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/img_9688.jpeg?w=474

15. atlanteanconspiracy.com/2016/06/arctic-midnight-sun-proves-flat-earth.html
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Posted by Fiasco 7 months ago
Fiasco
Hi! I realize that this debate is over and all, but...I'd love to ask a question of you, SilverFishGoldNova!

Right now, I'm seriously trying to figure out whether or not this whole flat earth idea holds any water. I must say, you bring up some very convincing arguments! I'll need to check out everything that you said in some more detail.

My question was regarding an round-earth argument which I read: how/why do we see a circular shadow on the moon during a lunar eclipse if the earth is flat? Seems pretty tough to me. I'd love to get your opinion on this one!

Thanks! :)
~Fiasco
Posted by AltDialect 9 months ago
AltDialect
SilverishGoldNova, I would like to say, before we start our debate, that I am in no way going to judge you for your views on the world. I am simply here to state my opinions and facts. I expect you to do the same. Thank you.
Posted by SilverishGoldNova 9 months ago
SilverishGoldNova
I can barely understand you,
Posted by SilverishGoldNova 9 months ago
SilverishGoldNova
What the fvck
Posted by Flatstanley 9 months ago
Flatstanley
yes, argree. u R bigbig smart boyt, and I's beeleeve very belive. Erth is flat... how??? B becau God told me so. I'm twelve, thanks
Posted by SilverishGoldNova 9 months ago
SilverishGoldNova
I have noticed there have been a couple of people who have made accounts purely to make fun of me and flat Earthers in general after I started debating this topic.
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