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Gay adoption

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Started: 2/23/2018 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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CJW

Pro

In a civilised society everyone should have equal rights and that includes to the expansion of the LGBTQ+ community. There is no evidence that anyone within the LGBTQ+ community would make lesser parents than any heterosexual.
2SidedPolygon

Con

"There is no evidence that anyone within the LGBTQ+ community would make lesser parents than any heterosexual".
I completely agree, but the issue isn't really that they would make lesser parents. It's not a matter of a gay father being a worse father than a straight father, but rather the fact that there isn't any mother. From an evolutionist or religious standpoint, humans were either created or evolved to have a mother and a father, each with their own unique traits. When it comes to homosexual parents, there is no balance of these traits. You either have 2 females, which tend to be emotional and caring without any of the traits of a father, or the other way around. It's not that they would make bad mothers, it's that you need more than just mothers. Not to mention, it's unfair to the child to be forced to have homosexual parents, and, in a society that discriminates against homosexuals, the child could be made fun of or bullied for it, which is unfair to them. Children deserve to have the balance of male and female, rather than leaning too heavily towards the emotional female traits, or the more serious, staid male traits.
Debate Round No. 1
CJW

Pro

In an increasing secular society surely religious standards are much less accountable in this scenario? Furthermore, I believe in the case of gay adoption, some of the express traits of both male and female could be subsidised for, and although men are stereotypically more serious and females stereotypically more emotional this cannot be applied to everyone. Also, in the case of bullying, same sex couples and children of same sex couples are now more accepted into society and although there will be a certain level of criticism, there is with everything, and happy couples can surely overlook and accept that for understanding to take place, time needs to be given.
2SidedPolygon

Con

I never said male and female traits could never be made up for, I'm saying that, in most cases, it won't. Stereotypes can't be applied to everyone, but as a general rule, men are more serious, and females are more emotional, and children need that balance. It's unfair to the child to be forced to have two fathers or two mothers, and only get one side of that coin. And yes, gay marriage is being more accepted into society, but there is still discrimination and potential bullying. The couples may be fine waiting for people to accept it, but it's unfair to the child to have that forced onto them. Put yourself in this child's shoes. You're forced into a homosexual family, and only get the seriousness of men or the emotions of women, along with the potential of being bullied or ridiculed... It's unfair to the child, which is what you're not countering. Yes, this isn't every case, but it's a rule of thumb.
Debate Round No. 2
CJW

Pro

If you would like me to counter your argument for the child I would be more than willing to oblige. This is case of adoption and the care system, trial periods are set up for adoptive parents and child interaction, therefore, if at the end of this period they felt they would rather have one male and one female parent, because they too find these stereotypical traits in the both female or both male parents, they can make a choice to deny this family and instead look for a heterosexual to be adopting by. Although, in the regards to the interest of the child, same sex parents are not proven to have any negative impacts in later life.
2SidedPolygon

Con

It's not as simple as "Oh there's a trial period." Things may go fine during the short trial period, and the child may be happy to be adopted by same-sex parents, though over time that may change, and the effects of not having a mother/father figure are long term rather than short term. Not to mention, if the parents are adopting the child as a baby, then the child can't have much of a say in the matter. As for same-sex parents not proven to have negative impacts on children they adopt, there actually is research that suggests that not growing up without either of these genders can have long-term psychological effects. According to Daily Mail, growing up without a father can have permanent impacts on the brain. Here's their article on it: http://www.dailymail.co.uk... Growing up without a mother can also have negative psychological effects. According to the New York Times, "Children Without Mothers Are At Special Risk". That article can be found here: http://www.nytimes.com...
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by moncaisson 3 years ago
moncaisson
Should single parents be able to adopt? What if gay or single parents could show that the child's adoptive grandparents would be actively involved raising the child? The biggest flaw with gay (excluding other sexual and gender minorities) adoption are that, all else equal, children get a one-dimensional upbringing. From their parents (in this context), children generally learn two things: how to be the person they are (male or female) and how to interact with the opposite gender in an amorous context. In gay parents, one or both are missing, which is an important factor to consider when considering gay adoption rights.
Posted by Heavk 3 years ago
Heavk
I agree with polygon, its not a debate about should LGBTQ be able to adopt, or to question their parenting capabilities, however the child's best interest needs to be considered when making this decision, not having the unique relationship with the gender of the parent that is missing.
And I will refer to this YouTube video
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