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SickInTheHeadz
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TheAdvancedLemon
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Gentle oral sex should be legal for all children

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Started: 3/14/2019 Category: Economics
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SickInTheHeadz

Pro

Ok, First to set meanings.

Oral sex = Either putting genitals in mouth either licking genitals

Gentle = One that causes no harm

Legal = Non-sanctioned

We all know how children like putting things in their mouth. Sadly, In the world where we live, The beautiful practice of children sucking on adult's genitals has been condemned and sanctioned by the law and the masses. Because of this, Children who have had oral sex with adults are being impacted with the guilt for the deed they have done.
For those who want more information on this topic, Book "The Trauma Myth" by Susan Clancy explains this very well.
In the book, She interviews today's adults, Children in the past who engaged in gentle sexual activities and came out unharmed by them. The statistics that she uses face some problems from the very start. Like, The fact that she combines gentle sexual activities with violent ones into one statistic. But in her book, She did correct one of her statistics when she said that it is not known whether children are hurt by sexual activities, Or are hurt children more likely to engage in sexual activities.
Children who wonder around alone with no parents or friends are likely already damaged by that alone, But they are also easier targets for child lovers. Which means that in studying statistics one can falsely assume that children are damaged by sexual activities, Rather than damaged children being more likely to engage in sexual activities. As explained, It is much more possible that already hurt children are engaging in sexual activities, Rather than children engaging in sexual activities are being hurt by sexual activities.
Second factor is the fact that children are often being separated from their lovers when their relationship is discovered, And questioned by family and police. This can easily lead to a sense of guilt, Which later in life results in alcohol and drug abuse. So rather than sexual activities being the cause of problems later in life, The reaction of people, Friends, Family and police are just as likely to be the cause of those problems.

Third factor is the huge condemnation of sexual activities with children by the society. Often condemned in news, Stories written about this form of love in a very negative way, Along with the complete media censorship of any positive examples of this form of love. So it is only expected for children who engage in sexual activities to feel as outcasts. Children who had sexual experiences feel like they have disappointed their family and friends, Because the reaction that their friends and family produce is usually disapproval, Which borders closely with disappointment.

Saying that society protects children from sexual activities is equal to saying that society protects children from joy. Sexual activities cause joy, Both in children and adults. Saying that sexual activities are against the rights of a child is saying that children don't have right to sexual activities, That their freedom is limited. And considering the joyful nature of sexual activities, It is a negative limitation.
TheAdvancedLemon

Con

Your proposed system essentially makes it legal for a forty year old have a two year old give him oral sex even though the two year old cannot consent and does not understand what oral sex even is. That would clearly be a horribly immoral policy as it would allow for rape as most people younger than eight do not even know what sex is and they cannot legally (and should not be able to legally) consent.

If we are talking about children giving each other oral sex this is different as they are both the same level of maturity which means that no one is taking advantage of another. While if an adult does it they inherently have more power which leads to it being immoral, An adult can convince a child to do something even if the child does not wanna do it.

Paedophiles would definitely take advantage of this system to abuse their victims further a four year old can't consent he or she does not even know what consent is, And to remove their legal protection against coercion would be horrible.
Debate Round No. 1
SickInTheHeadz

Pro

"even though the two year old cannot consent and does not understand what oral sex even is. "
Children can't consent to be born either, But I don't see you protesting against child births. This clearly means that you do not care about child's consent, As you pretend to. Children don't understand math either, So is it wrong to teach them math when they don't understand it? No? But it's wrong to teach them something sexual because they don't understand it? Children don't understand life either, So is it wrong for them to live?
Two year-old is perfectly able to consent to oral sex and perfectly able to understand what oral sex is. It's quite easy actually. Peni-s or pus-sy goes in mouth. It's one of the simplest things in life. If they can't consent to that, They can't consent to anything and everything is wrong.

"That would clearly be a horribly immoral policy as it would allow for rape as most people younger than eight do not even know what sex is and they cannot legally (and should not be able to legally) consent. "
Legalizing oral sex with children would allow rape? We can have oral sex legal, And rape illegal. In that case, Rape wouldn't be allowed.
The system which you are supporting is immoral. It sends people to prison for decades and ruins their life just because they had oral sex with children.

"If we are talking about children giving each other oral sex this is different as they are both the same level of maturity which means that no one is taking advantage of another. While if an adult does it they inherently have more power which leads to it being immoral, An adult can convince a child to do something even if the child does not wanna do it. "
Two children who were raised under different conditions, With different genetics, Have the same level of maturity? No, They don't. One child could be more dominant, One child could convince the other to do something even if the other child doesn't want to do it.
Also, You talk about power. Teachers also have more power than children, But they teach children, So is it immoral to send children to school? Parents have more power than children, So is parenting immoral? Parents convince children to do things they don't want to all the time: Eat your veggies, Go to school, Do your homework, Go study, Brush your teeth, Don't make as much noise, Pray to Jesus, Go to a dentist and so on. If you truly believe it's wrong to convince child to do something they don't want to, Then you believe all of these things I listed are wrong.

"Paedophiles would definitely take advantage of this system to abuse their victims further"
You want to send people to prison for having harmless oral sex with children, You are the one who wants to abuse people and the system. Sending people to jail for decades is far worse than what most pedophiles ever do during their lifetime.
And I just love how you dare to call harmless oral sex an abuse! And what do you even mean by "further abuse"? More oral sex? That's not abuse. Maybe you mean rape? I don't see how making oral sex legal makes rape legal.
TheAdvancedLemon

Con

Im not gonna lie to you I think you are likely a troll.

But if you aren't, You have one of the most disgusting minds I have ever seen, Children should not be sucking dick at age 1 they should be in school. And they cannot consent to anything at all that is why we need to protect them and make choices for them like which school they get in rolled in and which math class they perform because it benefits them. Having them suck someones dick not only will result in permanent psychological and sexual damage but is also one of the most disgusting things I have ever heard argued in my entire life.

You are disgusting
Debate Round No. 2
SickInTheHeadz

Pro

"Children should not be sucking dick at age 1"
Of course they should, And they should be sucked off too. It gives them pleasure, It is good, It benefits them.

"they should be in school"
I never said they shouldn't be in school. In fact, They can practice sucking there in a sex education class. What a good idea.

"And they cannot consent to anything at all that is why we need to protect them and make choices for them"
I think my choices are better than yours, Sucking genitals is fun and gives a lot of pleasure to children, Even if it is done with adults. Adults are more experienced and can suck on a child's genitals better than some other child could, And eventually, Gives more pleasure to a child.

"Having them suck someones dick not only will result in permanent psychological and sexual damage"
No, It won't. You are clearly brainwashed. It is the society's pressure that causes damage. There is no damage in gentle sucking or being gently sucked off. In fact, It will bring pleasure to a child. An adult could pour some chocolate on his pen. Is and make a child lick him. That way, Child will be more willing and will get a lot more pleasure.
TheAdvancedLemon

Con

You are clearly a troll.

I don't think any sane human could hold your view points, Please find something better to do with your day other than trolling people on a debating site.
Debate Round No. 3
SickInTheHeadz

Pro

So you surrender?
TheAdvancedLemon

Con

TheAdvancedLemon forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
TheAdvancedLemon

Con

You are clearly a troll no sane human could have the same opinion as you
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by yuhancui0726 1 week ago
yuhancui0726
why is this in economics
and sick in the head is actually sick in the head
Posted by TheAdvancedLemon 1 week ago
TheAdvancedLemon
@WrickitRalph I don't think that they should do it either but putting them on a sex offenders list or making it a criminal issue is not the answer. Which is why I don't think it should be illegal and there should be a close age exemption law.
Posted by WrickItRalph 1 week ago
WrickItRalph
@TheAdvanceLemon. I find it dubious to say that kids of the same age should be allowed to perform sexual acts on each other. The other guy is just sick and I hope he gets arrested someday, But young kids are not fit to consent simply because they know what sex is and it's not okay just because the other kids knows too. Sex is a responsibility that has a lot of consequences. Kids who have traumatizing sexual experiences as kids suffer later in life. That would be like saying that an 8 year old should be allowed to drive just because they know how.
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