The Instigator
Kikomori
Con (against)
The Contender
MuhammadKhan
Pro (for)

God is real

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Started: 1/7/2018 Category: Religion
Updated: 10 months ago Status: Debating Period
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Kikomori

Con

I would be happy to debate any religious person on whether God exists. As the burden of proof lies with the religious person, they start.
MuhammadKhan

Pro

I would like to know what religion are you following currently.
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Kikomori

Con

I am not currently following any religion. The BoP lies with you so you start.
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Posted by canis 10 months ago
canis
"i dunno what the alternative to imaginary green elephants would be... maybe flying pink stegosauruses..." Could be true. One imagination can be as good as another... And burden of proof is the burden of imagination..
Or imaginary invisible green elephants do not exist.
Posted by ANANIGMA 10 months ago
ANANIGMA
i dunno what the alternative to imaginary green elephants would be... maybe flying pink stegosauruses...

nobody said because one person makes a claim, the other has to make an alternative claim. that has nothing to do with a burden of proof.
Posted by canis 10 months ago
canis
"The burden of proof is on whoever imagine green invisible elephants.. Someone who does not imagine green invisible elephants..... Does not have to provide an alternative... To imaginary invisible elephants..
what would the alternative to imaginary invisible green elephants be ?
Posted by ANANIGMA 10 months ago
ANANIGMA
right so why are you talking about alternatives?
Posted by canis 10 months ago
canis
"The burden of proof is on whoever imagine green invisible elephants.. Someone who does not imagine green invisible elephants..... Does not have to provide an alternative... To imaginary invisible elephants..
Posted by ANANIGMA 10 months ago
ANANIGMA
what are you talking about alternatives for??? burden of proof has absolutely nothing to do with an alternative...
Posted by canis 10 months ago
canis
"The burden of proof is on whoever imagine green invisible elephants.. Someone who does not imagine green invisible elephants..... Does not have to provide an alternative...
Posted by ANANIGMA 10 months ago
ANANIGMA
The burden of proof is on whoever makes an assertion (claim). Not just for someone who claims God exists but also anyone who claims God doesn't exist. The later is still an assertion, therefor proof is required for their position.

Definition:
Burden of Proof is the obligation on a party in a dispute to provide sufficient warrant for their position.

Another note:
Since neither the Theist or Atheist can prove with 100% certainty that God exists. The example of an argument saying, "God doesn't exist therefor the burden of proof is on someone to believes God does exist" is called shifting the burden of proof via an Argument from Ignorance fallacy. This is a false dichotomy in that it excludes a third option (unknown in this case), which is that there may have been an insufficient investigation, and therefore there is insufficient information to prove the proposition be either true or false.
Posted by canis 10 months ago
canis
The burden of proof is on someone who believes in gods and/or green invisible elephants. "God is real" and you chose "pro"..Well then you have claimed that green invisible elephant and or gods exists.
Posted by ANANIGMA 10 months ago
ANANIGMA
canis - Not saying you would but it is a common statement made. I was using your example of the invisible green elephant to show it's the same as saying, "there is no god, therefor the burden of proof is on someone who believes."
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