I am just needing some help with a public forum case I am writting for next week

march may be over psynthesizer but the schooling I am going to still has one debate on this topic.

mjg283 I never would have done this but I was running so short on time and I had to hurry. If I didnot do this I would have flunked forensics even if I had 100%.

Just some random refutations to throw around:

There are viable alternatives. The delaware plan, the national primary, the American Plan, just to name a few. In fact, the 2008 primaries were supposed to be placed under a system that would encourage a national primary by eliminating early states from the schedule, instead pushing for more primaries to be held on "Super Tuesday."

As for any points involving money, state that the initial "cost" or barrier of entry is much greater for the presidential primaries. Put it this way: Joe Schmoe off the streets cannot even get onto the ballots without a substantial amount of money and support from political party members. Thus, this increased barrier of entry prevents a substantial number of viable candidates from actually participating in the primaries. Therefore, the current system of presidential primaries are contrary to the democratic value of equal rights within a democracy.

The primary system itself does not provide debates, and most kids run the information point simply on the fact that most evidence packets this month for pf have a point about the debates. Debates are self-serving media events which places much heavier emphasis on top contenders, rather than ALL of the contenders. This is in direct contradiction with the point that ALL candidates can be considered during the primary season.

Just a random note at this point, but I think you should distinguish between equal rights and equality.

But this is all jibber jabber; March is over :D (this topic was weird...)

good points. also... you little cheater =P

nice pic by the way.

those contradictions give the other team one choice or another with how I plan to present it
Ragnar_Rahl but thanks for the input

Why not do your own research and decide what the best arguments are rather than asking others to do your work for you?

If you really want good arguments as to why our primary system has elements to it that are contrary to democratic values, all you'd have to do is read the newspaper or watch any of the news shows any day since the Primary Season began. That has been one of the most heavily discussed and debated issues.

"
life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, equality, popular sovereignty"
"

Contradictions!

Popular sovereignty means that the majority decides everything, infringing on the liberty (and thereby the life, since humans require action from their own minds to live as such) of the minority. Popular sovereignty means that the minority cannot pursue happiness except at the whim of the majority. Popular sovereignty declares the majority and minority unequal in legal status- and a general declaration of equality in all spheres contradicts liberty, the pursuit of happiness, life (since the only way to make everyone equal in general terms is to make them dead, as that is the lowest common denominator, you can't make everyone have a fixed amount in the living sphere).

It is the last tournament on the may topic and it is being held in April so that will help. And it is also at the smallest school I have been to.But I do not necessarily want to win I just want to get a pfd tourney in to pass (grade requirements)

You're definitely going to run into people who understand the topic inside and out. However, the rate depends on what kind of tournament you're going to.

yrazel my dad gave me some stuff tieing in that america being a dmacracy makes the system a demacracy. It has alot of links and is totaly far fetched but it makes sense and any laid judge will go for it.