The Instigator
AKMath
Pro (for)
The Contender
BezoomnyBratchny
Con (against)

Illegal Immigrants

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/27/2018 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Debating Period
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AKMath

Pro

I think all illegal immigrants should be deported to their country of origin.
Debate Round No. 1
AKMath

Pro

I think this as if you think about it. All these illegal immigrants came very aware of the danger and consequences. They knew they could go to jail, get deported, etc. But the fact is, is that they still knowingly came here. They should consequently not be surprised to find out they are being deported as they have broken the law (immigration policy). The splitting of families is completely there fault, as they brought is upon themselves.
BezoomnyBratchny

Con

This is a rather strange argument for Pro to make. The issue at hand is whether or not the immigration policy should be the way that it currently is, not whether or not immigrants are aware of what the policy is and therefore what will happen if they are caught. I don't see the relevance of the latter in deciding the former. And in any case, it is not always true. Many immigrants gave up everything only after being told by the state department that their visas were being accepted and specifically being told that any future changes on Trump's policies would not revoke their visas. Then they were later told that their visas weren't being accepted after all, thanks to the Trump administration switching and changing the terms of the travel ban three separate times [1]. How is anyone to keep up with that, and with so much at stake?

[1] https://www.nytimes.com...
Debate Round No. 2
AKMath

Pro

Forget about that. If all illegal immigrants are deported we won't have any problem. And for immigration entrance policy. It should be an extremely hard, rigorous, and patriotic test. In my opinion. An extreme few should be coming in. Less than 250 or less per year. If they commit a felony within the first 5 years of staying. They should be deported and never allowed back. We should also give about a 65% disadvantage to people from big terrorist hubs in the Middle East and other watchlist countries. Such as Russia, North Korea, Somalia etc. America shouldn't be policing the world and a scapegoat option for people in other situations. This is my policy.
BezoomnyBratchny

Con

"We" won't have any problem. Us. Are we the only ones that matter? Nevermind sending people back into war zones, some of which we've played no small part in creating. Is the imagined inconvenience of Americans worth more than the lives of foreigners?

How many American citizens do you think would pass such a test? There are plenty of Americans that can't answer basic questions about their own country, let alone an "extremely hard and rigorous" one. And there are also plenty of Americans that despise patriotism. Should those people be deported too? And if not, why the double standard? Why should immigrants be expected to be better Americans than Americans are?

If more than 250 people pass this test of yours, how do you go about choosing who is to be let in and who isn't?

And the 3 countries you chose are rather bizarre. If someone escapes North Korea, they're more likely to end up in South Korea (via Thailand) than the US, and their aim will be to escape oppression, not cause it.
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