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Imperials or Stormcloaks?

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Started: 5/10/2018 Category: Education
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Debating Period
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Dem heckin' stermclokes. Dey alays wuin ower planz


"We hold these truths to be self evident. That all men are created equal. They they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights governments are instituted among men deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that when any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it."- Thomas Jefferson.

The Imperials, with all of their good intentions are trampling on the rights that they spent most of their existence swearing to uphold. From the time of Tiber Septim honoring the Dunmer Tribunal up until the Great War the empire has guaranteed freedom of religion and thus imperial rule was consented to by the governed. When the Empire betrayed Skyrim's trust by allowing the persecution of it's people on the basis of their faith, they lost the consent of the governed. When a government becomes destructive the the principles it was founded upon and loses the consent of the governed. It's time for that government to go.

Many Pro-Imperials claim that they only do this to prevent war with the Aldmeri Dominion, but the Empire has long been in decline. After the Oblivion Crisis when the Empire withdrew most of the Ruby Legions to Cyrodiil, many of the provinces started to secede. the Empire has been reduced to a shadow of it's former glory and is not long for Nirn. However, Skyrim could withstand the onslaught of the Dominion because of their geography and tenacity of their warriors. "the Art of War teaches us to not rely upon the likelihood of the enemy's not coming, but on our own readiness to receive him; not on the chance of his not attacking, but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable."-Sun Tzu. The Empire is not following this old adage by assuming that the Thalmor will not attack while weakening their own position. Skyrim is defended on the south by the Jerall Mountains which can be easily defended even against a superior force, and to the North by the frigid, perilous waters of the Sea of Ghosts. Especially if Skyrim allied with Argonia whose treacherous swamplands have never been conquered, the Thalmor would be walking into the homeland of fierce warriors where they would suffer severe attrition from geography alone.

To conclude, the Stormcloaks stand up for the individual rights of the people of Skyrim, and separating Skyrim from the husk of a dying Empire by asserting their right to self governance. In the words of Thane Bryling "Many condemn the stormcloaks, but I refuse. There is honor in fighting for what you believe in."

Talos guide you.
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Posted by passwordstipulationssuck 3 years ago
why am I such a nerd.
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