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ConserativeDemocrat
Pro (for)

Is Abortion a good choice?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/19/2018 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Debating Period
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Con

I believe abortion is not a good or responsible choice for anyone unless they are a victim of rape or did not intentionally engage in any sexual acts. Abortion means you are taking away all the choices away from a soon to be human being just because of one horrible choice you made. Additionally, the abortion process can be mentally harmful to the woman who is going through the process.

Abortion is not a good choice under almost all circumstances, and should be regulated and tightly controlled (not banned) to ensure the safety of even the unborn, who may not yet be "people" but will soon be.
ConserativeDemocrat

Pro

Argument:

Quite simply, Con has no authority to control what another person does with their body, unless they causing harm to another person. Thus, Con should have no say over what a woman does with her body.

Furthermore, let's take a look at why women have abortions:

Percentage of women reporting that specified reasons contributed to their decision to have an abortion Reason 2004 (N=1,160)

Having a baby would dramatically change my life: 74%
Would interfere with education: 38%
Would interfere with job/employment/career: 38%
Have other children or dependents: 32%
Can’t afford a baby now: 73%
Unmarried: 42%
Student or planning to study: 34%
Can’t afford a baby and child care: 28%
Can’t afford the basic needs of life: 23%
Unemployed: 22%
Can’t leave job to take care of a baby: 21%
Would have to find a new place to live: 19%
Don’t want to be a single mother or having relationship problems: 48%
Not enough support from husband or partner: 14%
Husband or partner is unemployed: 12%
Husband or partner is abusive to me or my children: 2%
Have completed my childbearing: 38%
Not ready for a(nother) child: 32%
Don’t want people to know I had sex or got pregnant: 25%
Don’t feel mature enough to raise a(nother) child: 22%
Husband or partner wants me to have an abortion: 14%
Possible problems affecting the health of the fetus: 13%
Physical problem with my health: 12%
Parents want me to have an abortion: 6%
Was a victim of rape: 1%
Became pregnant as a result of incest: <0.5%

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Women aren't getting abortions because they like them, they're getting them to avoid personal harm, or to stop the baby from being harmed. 73% said they couldn't afford a baby. Would Con prefer that these babies are born to mothers who can't afford them, which would drag not only the mother into poverty, but the baby too?

Or would Con prefer that the baby was born into the home of a mother who was irresponsible, and would likely neglect the baby?

Pro believes that it is better to abort a fetus before it can think and feel pain, rather then leave a baby to have a horrible quality of life.

Rebuttals:

"Abortion means you are taking away all the choices away from a soon to be human being just because of one horrible choice you made."

Yes. People have the freedom to do this. Con has no power over what another person does.

"Additionally, the abortion process can be mentally harmful to the woman who is going through the process."

Maybe so, but again, why is this Con's choice to make? Many activities are mentally harmful, like fighting in a war, being an ER Doctor or paramedic, or being in a car crash. Should we ban everything that could be mentally harmful?

"to ensure the safety of even the unborn, who may not yet be "people" but will soon be."

But at what cost? Relegating a baby to a terrible life that would lead to dramatically higher risks of criminal behavior, drug addiction, or suicide?

Conclusion:

Pro's argument is twofold. First, Pro believes that Con has no say over what a woman does with her body. Secondly, Pro believes abortion is preferable to motherhood, if the mother is poor, irresponsible, or just not in a good place.

Awaiting Reply.

Debate Round No. 1

Con

While Con does believe that Con has no ability to control what another person does to their own body unless they do cause harm to someone else, Pro fails to realise that abortion could be compared to other heinous crimes such as murder. Is abortion not taking the life of someone?

Pro stated: "Quite simply, Con has no authority to control what another person does with their body, unless they causing harm to another person."
Abortion does involve the harm of a life that is to be born, and that is to make choices. There are of course people, who do face mental health problems after growing up knowing that their parents had planned to perform an abortion, although have decided not to usually as a result of a poor lifestyle due to economic reasons.
There are also people out in the world, who are grateful for that choice that their parents had made from not performing the abortion. These are the people who now have the opportunity to live their lives, and could have gone two different paths. One path that they are alive in this world today, and the other that they cease to exist due to abortion.
This also provides a counter-argument against Pro's statement: "Pro believes that it is better to abort a fetus before it can think and feel pain, rather then leave a baby to have a horrible quality of life." Since some of these babies do not have such a horrible quality of life.

Some of Pro's statistics state:
"Having a baby would dramatically change my life: 74%"
"Unmarried: 42%"
"Don"t want people to know I had sex or got pregnant: 25%"
"Husband or partner wants me to have an abortion: 14%"
"Parents want me to have an abortion: 6%"
"Not enough support from husband or partner: 14%"
"Don"t feel mature enough to raise a(nother) child: 22%"

These, and some other statistics are merely social reasons. These social reasons are definitely not sufficient for an excuse to take away a life that a woman is to bring into this world. Some other reasons are valid, economic or health issues which could be sufficient for a consideration for abortion.
Furthermore, if a woman is not mentally ready to bear a child or is facing economic issues, that is again is not a responsible excuse for performing abortion. While this is not preferable, placing the child into adoption would allow them to have a better quality of life than they would with their biological mothers.

Pro's rebuttal to Con's argument: "Abortion means you are taking away all the choices away from a soon to be human being just because of one horrible choice you made." states: "Yes. People have the freedom to do this. Con has no power over what another person does."
This again contradicts to Pro's initial argument: " Con has no authority to control what another person does with their body, unless they causing harm to another person."
However, is it not that taking the choices away from a person causing harm to them? Is this not practically taking away a life? Thus, with Pro's argument this means that it does cause harm to another person, that could have choices and that could have a life.

Pro's second rebuttal to Con's argument: "Additionally, the abortion process can be mentally harmful to the woman who is going through the process." states: "Maybe so, but again, why is this Con's choice to make? Many activities are mentally harmful, like fighting in a war, being an ER Doctor or paramedic, or being in a car crash. Should we ban everything that could be mentally harmful?"
Is it not that the protection of human health the reason why harmful substances such as drugs are banned?

Pro's third rebuttal to Con's argument "to ensure the safety of even the unborn, who may not yet be "people" but will soon be." states: "But at what cost? Relegating a baby to a terrible life that would lead to dramatically higher risks of criminal behavior, drug addiction, or suicide?"
These are usually results of being raised in an unstable childhood, in one with economic problems. If a woman could not take care of a child because of financial reasons, as Con has stated before should place the child into adoption for someone else to take care of them or receive assistance from family members or friends.

In conclusion, Pro has based many of their arguments on that women have the choice to regulate what happens with their body and that Con does not have the authority to control it unless it causes harm to another human being.
Con believes that abortion does indeed cause harm to a human being, the target of the procedure, a newborn baby.
ConserativeDemocrat

Pro

My response is rather short, as Con made this statement during their rebuttals:

"Some other reasons are valid, economic or health issues which could be sufficient for a consideration for abortion."

Con concedes the debate here, as in Round 1, they state:

"abortion is not a good or responsible choice for anyone unless they are a victim of rape or did not intentionally engage in any sexual acts."

Con concedes that economic or health issues are valid grounds for an abortion, meaning they agree with Pro, and agree with Pro's side of the resolution, that abortion is a good choice. Con has conceded that, as Pro states, there are cases other than rape where abortion should be allowed, meaning Con agrees with Pro.

VOTE PRO!
Debate Round No. 2

Con

While Pro has stated that the statement Con has made is contradictory to the first round, Con has provided some more clarification on this.
Con has stated in Round 2: "Furthermore, if a woman is not mentally ready to bear a child or is facing economic issues, that is again is not a responsible excuse for performing abortion. While this is not preferable, placing the child into adoption would allow them to have a better quality of life than they would with their biological mothers." And to clarify, was only implying that economic issues are the absolute minimum grounds for abortion, and had never said that it would be a completely responsible choice.

Furthermore, as stated in Round 2 many of Pro"s rebuttals and arguments also contradict to their own statements. While Con does agree health issues are valid grounds for abortion, Pro has seemed to ignore the fact that Con has stated a clarification that adoption may be even more responsible than abortion.
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Debate Round No. 3
4 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 4 records.
Posted by missmedic 3 years ago
missmedic
Homelessness is terrible, poverty is terrible, Jesus does nothing because he can do nothing.
Posted by MacWorth 3 years ago
MacWorth
Abortion is terrible and should be banned everywhere across the world. Jesus is not happy.
Posted by missmedic 3 years ago
missmedic
Abortion my not be a good choice, but in American society it is the better choice. Governments can significantly reduce abortion numbers by building a more stable, prosperous society and making child-rearing economically feasible. There is no need for societies to defend fetal interests directly, as the best way to protect fetuses is to provide resources directly to pregnant women. When a pregnant woman is safe and healthy, so is her fetus. Women"s lives, health, and basic human rights depend on the availability of abortion, and those are the only factors necessary to justify abortion.
Posted by canis 3 years ago
canis
It is a choise... good/bad is just an (after) rationalisation... Burgers are bad...Not adopting children from poor countries is bad...Sh../or not happens...
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