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Naeempakistani
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Mingodalia
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Is Jesus God?

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Started: 3/27/2018 Category: Religion
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Naeempakistani

Con

Is Jesus really God? If you are right, and modern day Christianity is right then prove it.
Mingodalia

Pro


The Bible makes several paradoxial claims that make no sense logically to make.



The first claim is that the gospel will spread to every nation. This is a daring claim seeing that at that time Christianity was under severe assault and had few adherents.



But what makes it even stranger is that its claims have actually come true and manifested in a short period of time.



One Point in Time Argument-



CLAIM #1

The gospel is preached to every nation.



"And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.






CLAIM #2

There will be a giant movement into Secularism and away from Christianity.



"No one should deceive you in any way, because it is not until the apostasy shall have come first."






CLAIM #3

"The Beast"



"Four great beasts, each different from the others, came up out of the sea."






"The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it."






ISLAM MAP-






MUSLIM CONQUEST BATTLES MAP-






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CHRISTIAN BIBLE (Speaking of Jesus Christ)-



They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings--and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers."






ISLAMIC HADITH-



Allah's Apostle said, "The most awful name in Allah's sight on the Day of Resurrection, will be (that of) a man calling himself Malik Al-Amlak (the king of kings)."






Sahih-Al-Bukhari Bk 73; Num 224



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"THE BEAST FROM THE EARTH"



CHRISTIAN BIBLE-



The second beast comes "out of the earth" and directs all peoples of the earth to worship the first beast. The second beast is described in Revelation 13:11-18 and is also referred to as the false prophet.






BEAST FROM THE EARTH IN ISLAM-



"And when the Word is fulfilled against them, the unjust, we shall produce from the earth a beast to face them: He will speak to them, for that mankind did not believe with assurance in Our Signs.



— Qur'an, sura 27 (An-Naml),ayat 82






BEAST FROM THE EARTH IN CHRISTIANITY-



The beast from the earth (The false prophet) also causes people to receive the mark of the beast "in their right hand or in their forehead."



BEAST FROM THE EARTH IN ISLAM-



The beast from the Earth marks the believers on their foreheads and a seal to mark the unbelievers.






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The beast from the earth (The false prophet) was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause those who refused to worship the image to be killed."






ISLAMIC KAABA STONE-



(Picture/illustration of Muhammed putting the Kaaba stone in place)-






Muslims bow to the stone and believe it did speak and will speak. Allah granted it the power of speech. Muslims circle around it in Mecca, bow to it, and try to get close enough to touch it and/or kiss it.



"Thus Allah wrote this confirmation. And this stone has a pair of eyes, ears and a tongue and it opened its mouth upon the order of Allah, who put that confirmation in it and ordered to witness it to all those worshippers who come for Hajj."






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"And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image."






-HEADLINES-



"ISIS Orders Its Franchises to Kill Christians"






"ISIS Declares War on The Cross & Christianity. Christians Beheaded in Barbaric New Video from the Islamic State"






"ISIS beheads 30 Ethiopian Christians in Libya"






CHRISTIAN BIBLE-



Revelation 13:10 -

"If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity they will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword they will be killed." This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God's people."



-HEADLINE-



"Beheadings, imprisonment made 2015 worst year for Christian persecution, report finds"






"Iran: 10-year prison sentences for Christian converts in Rasht"






"War, Terrorism, and the Christian Exodus from the Middle East"



Quote from the Pope-



"We exhort our faithful and call them to patience in these tribulations, especially in this tsunami of stifling, destructive, bloody and tragic crises of our Arab world, particularly in Syria, but also to different degrees in Egypt, Iraq, Palestine and Lebanon,” he wrote. “Jesus tells us, ‘Fear not!’ ”






"The Great Tribulation"



"In Christian eschatology, the great tribulation is a period mentioned by Jesus in the Olivet discourse as a sign that would occur in the time of the end. At Revelation 7:14, "the great tribulation" is used to indicate the period spoken of by Jesus. Matthew 24: 21 and 29 uses tribulation in a context denoting afflictions of those hard-pressed by siege and the calamities of war in the end times."






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CHRISTIAN BIBLE ON END TIMES-



"This message came to me concerning Damascus: "Look, the city of Damascus will disappear! It will become a heap of ruins."






PICTURES OF DAMASCUS TODAY-



PIC 1






PIC 2






PIC 3






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CHRISTIAN BIBLE



"The great city was divided into three parts."(Speaking of Jerusalem)






Today, Jerusalem is split between the Jews, Christians, & the Muslims.



"The city of Jerusalem is significant in a number of religious traditions, including the Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, which consider it a holy city. Some of the most sacred places for each of these religions are found in Jerusalem and the one shared between all three is the Temple Mount."






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Quote from Islamic scholar Jan Morgan:



"Islam, is more than a religion. It’s a theocracry. Islam is the union of political, legal, and religious ideologies. In other words, law, religion and state are forged together to form what Muslims refer to as “The Nation of Islam.”






ISLAM-



Muslim (1:33) – “…the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.”



Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.”



Quran (9:5) - “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.”



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