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Is feminism needed in the western world?

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Started: 12/16/2018 Category: Politics
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APerson123456789

Con

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omar2345

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Yes it does.

Feminism: the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes. (Google Feminism define)

Whether it might not be for creating more rights in order for equal rights it still needs to be around to maintain said rights. Without advocacy groups it would not be assured that these rights are maintained.

what I don't agree with feminists which should not be the vocal point of the movement is:

The west is a patriarchy.

Men's rights does not matter.

Wage gap exists and is not a just an average of all salaries men and women currently have which is a form of sexism.

I think the 3 above should be removed from the movement instead the movement should be about maintaining the rights they already have while also being courteous to other viewpoints since Ad-Hominems and name-callings do not get anyone's point across.

The women who fall in line with what I say and I agree with are
Christina Hoff Sommers (Factual Feminist). Cassie Jaye is the other (Red Pill documentary) was I would say a radical feminist until she met the Men's Rights movement. Worth the watch if you interested in what the MRA stand for and how the feminist mislead on what the MRA actually want and advocate for. Have to buy it or pirate it whichever. Preview of the documentary is below.

Sources to what I agree with for the two females are listed below:

https://www. Youtube. Com/playlist? List=PLytTJqkSQqtr2se5wbDlvFhUt0K4ewRt8 (Factual Feminist Season 1-5)

https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=HK7n_XA40V8 (Preview of Cassie Jaye's Red Pill documentary)

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Posted by omar2345 3 years ago
omar2345
@dsjpk5
"I'm talking about something you did/experienced"
Are you assuming that?
Are you sure that I do not have a bad memory?
Analogy does not fail you just do not think hard enough or think the worst of me.

"How can anyone say "you know x doesn't exist. "? "
You do realise the same question goes back to you right? Let me rephrase at make applicable to Christianity
How can anyone say who is a Christian say you know you x does exist when you have no evidence?
It is an in falsifiable claim. I don't make the claim God exists theists do. Yet they cannot support it with evidence instead faith.
Posted by dsjpk5 3 years ago
dsjpk5
The analogy fails because I'm talking about something you did/experienced, While you're talking about something one can't experience. . . Something's non existence. How can anyone say "you know x doesn't exist. "?
Posted by Soviet4life 3 years ago
Soviet4life
Feminism sucks
Posted by omar2345 3 years ago
omar2345
You know God isn't true, So I see no reason to convince you.

See the problem with this?
Posted by omar2345 3 years ago
omar2345
I am saying I don't.
Are you sure you know me better than I know myself?
Posted by dsjpk5 3 years ago
dsjpk5
You know what you did, So I see no reason to convince you.
Posted by omar2345 3 years ago
omar2345
@dsjpk5

Bear in mind without a shred of evidence.
So it is just a claim.
Posted by dsjpk5 3 years ago
dsjpk5
I've already responded to this inquiry of yours.
Posted by omar2345 3 years ago
omar2345
dsjpk5 strikes again.
Says I done something but cannot prove it.
How am I supposed to know what I did when you are not telling me?
I did not directly say I wanted a vote off instead you implied it.
Instead why not give me evidence of me implying it.
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Vote Placed by backwardseden 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: dsjpk5 hates the world including himself and lives to defraud others characters that he hates. For this reason, as he shows with omar2345 and me, he should rightly be banned from DDO permanently.
Vote Placed by dsjpk5 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Omar has challenged me to a vote off, apparently. If at any time he wishes this to stop, he should let me know

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