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Israel criminalizes the Palestinians

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Started: 3/25/2019 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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maybe.human

Pro

Since it's initial establishment, Israel has done nothing but attempt to build it's ego, And stabilize democratic relations. It was born from British lies, And only receives support because of bribery and corruption. Especially in recent years, Much because of widespread islamophobia, They have been criminalizing the Palestinians. Many Palestinian children have to go to bed not knowing if they'll wake up the next day. Palestinian deaths are over double Israel's, And mostly civilian. Israeli deaths are usually caused by HAMAS, The terrorist organization that currently controls Gaza. On the other hand, Palestinian deaths are typically caused by Israel. HAMAS hides missiles in schools, So Israel would have to bomb the schools to destroy the missiles. And Israel seems to be fine with that. The worst part of it all, Is that Israel tells the rest of the world that "Palestine" is the enemy, And we believe them! They criminalize the Palestinian people on a daily basis, And combined with the heavy influence on the US, Have the entire west on their side. The Palestinian people are in the middle of a firefight between Israel and HAMAS, And there is nothing they can do about it.
billsands

Con

Isreal is doing to Palestininas EXACTLY what the nazis did to them nazism and zionsim are exactly the same thing, Either zionists need to change their ways or at least admit the nazis had a point, Sometimes in this world in order to save your people, You have to destory the enemy completely. . And just acept the consequences of history on your reputation, Maybe the jews learned an important lesson about survival. . You can't view the enemy as if they were human. . Only as an objective to be liquidated. . And they also need to admit they have no moral highground on the german people, And reparations they bleed from the Good German folk to this day must cease, This isnt about right and wrong its about survival, And if they wish to survive they have to admit, They are no more moral or humane than the nazis are, They are just in survival mode and this is what the nake ape does when his survival is threatened, We are all this we even the "chosen people" thye are no different than the "master race" in any way. . Except maybe germans make better cars because like no one one can make a luxury car bettter thn the krauts. Face that
Debate Round No. 1
maybe.human

Pro

The Palestinians have no involvement with Nazism and Germany, And attacking the Palestinian people isn't "survival". They pose practically no threat. Your argument does nothing to prove that Israel doesn't criminalize the Palestinians. If anything you further criminalize Israel by saying "nazism and zionsim are exactly the same thing" (which I don't agree with). You could likely give a good rebuttal to some of my points, But you haven't.
billsands

Con

In what strange universe are Palestinians not a threat/ They try to destory Isreal every single day. . Dude open a history book. . Its been going on for thousands of years!
Debate Round No. 2
maybe.human

Pro

"In what strange universe are Palestinians not a threat"

This one :). Israel is a first world country with the support of the world's biggest superpower. Palestine is two developing territories in Israel, With little provided to them from anyone. They pose as much as a threat to Israel as Taiwan does to China.

"They try to destroy Isreal every single day. . "

"They" implies all of Palestine. Of course they want it back, But you seem to be referring to HAMAS and the many terrorists that violently contend Israel.

"Dude open a history book. . Its been going on for thousands of years! "

But Israel has only existed for 70 years. . . Palestine hasn't ever existed as an independent entity, But the identity has for over 1500 years. Most of the Jews were in Europe from their exile to 1948, So how could the Palestinians have been fighting them? How could they be trying to destroy a not yet existent country? Incorrect facts.
billsands

Con

How about those rocket attcks on tel aviv/ the six day war? The yom kippor war?
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by maybe.human 3 years ago
maybe.human
billsands in response to your argument, Pretty much every Arab country attacked, Not just Palestine. And they all lost in 6 days. You are only further proving how little of a threat Palestine is. Even if they were a threat, That would have only been because Israel was still a new country and not too far ahead of the Palestinians yet.
Posted by maybe.human 3 years ago
maybe.human
They're "negotiable" because if they weren't, They likely wouldn't have existed for long. Now the tables have turned, And they are a somewhat powerful country. A superpower as one might say. And the only reason they were negotiable with the British, Is because they got a country out of it lol. There are boycotts against Israeli products in the west, But not against China, A country where workers get close to no pay, And little freedom of speech. It's not like all the boycotts are just racist. People are against Israel for a reason. Or should I say reasons.
Posted by DeletedUser 3 years ago
DeletedUser
look Israel is actually negotiable.
Posted by maybe.human 3 years ago
maybe.human
Limited rights, No freedom of speech, No right to travel (more so in Gaza), Militarized wall, Heavy West Bank occupancy, Building on West Bank, Constant Gaza air raids just to name a few. Don't forget that Israel holds the record for the most UN resolutions broken. The number is different depending on who you ask, But they are all over every other countries' combined. Most of these resolutions directly relate to Palestine.
Posted by DeletedUser 3 years ago
DeletedUser
how do they treat them like rubbish
Posted by maybe.human 3 years ago
maybe.human
Judaism has under 15 million followers, Nearly half of which is in Israel. If it had a larger following, You'd probably see more of it. Not to mention, Acts of aggression towards gentiles in Israel likely wouldn't be recorded. Regardless of this all, Israel still treats the Palestinians like rubbish.
Posted by DeletedUser 3 years ago
DeletedUser
That Doesnt seem to show today.
Posted by maybe.human 3 years ago
maybe.human
Dr. Franklin in Judaism, You can literally kill gentiles (non jews). It isn't any better.
Posted by DeletedUser 3 years ago
DeletedUser
both sides do but Islam is not a religion of Peace so support Israel.
Posted by maybe.human 3 years ago
maybe.human
@melcharaz I didn't agree with con on the comparison between Nazism and Zionism. I honestly don't even know what his position is. So can I agree with you there, But when you say Palestine, You are referring to HAMAS and the terrorists in Palestine. Not the general people. And if you think that Israel actually has any regards for Palestine, You are gravely mistaken. They are building structures on Palestinian land, And providing very minimal resources in comparison to the Israelis. Palestinian people are second class citizens. Your statement on how "the jews always had Israel as their home and nation" is also quite incorrect. As you subsequently stated, Israel has only existed since 1948. Before that point, Palestine was owned by the British, Ottomans, Muslims, Romans, Greek, Persians, Egyptians, And more. The land was controlled by the Jews at one point, But pretty much everyone else has the same bragging rights. If anything, Judea was an extremely short occupation. Regardless of who rightfully owns the land, This debate is about whether Israel criminalizes the Palestinians or not. I would be happy to discuss this on another debate. Thank you for your opinion.
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