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Kashmir Independence or their option to either stay independent or join Pakistan

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Started: 11/18/2018 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Noorghani6

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When we hear about Kashmir, The images that would pop up would be of beautiful landscape, With rivers running through the valleys. But what most do not know is the oppression of the Kashmiri people by the anti Islam and Hindu nationalist extremists the (BJP party). Keep in mind that it was this government and their supporters that took countless lives of innocent Muslims in Hyderabad. Muslims in India get killed and even put to jail for eating cow, Because it is a Hindu religious symbol. You can search up videos of that on you tube and even search up the killing ofMuslims in Hyderabad. Coming back to the Kashmir issue, The Kashmiris have been rooting for independence for a long time. They have been tortured for years now with the international community not even thinking about resolving the issue. The Indian army uses rubber bullets and purposely aims to hit the innocent protesters in the face. To protest is a basic human right. Especially if it is being done peacefully. But even peaceful protesters have been given the title of terrorists just because they are fighting for independence. India was once a country that fought hard to gain independence from the British to the extent of even killing British soldiers. When you bring that up to an Indian, They blame the extremists for that. Those same extremists are now oppressing Kashmiris. The point is India knows how it feels to be oppressed by someone. Why are they now doing the same thing to Kashmir. Every time a police officer or a soldier gets killed why it is called an act of terrorism when the army itself is committing terrorism, By killing innocent people and taking mothers and Fathers away from their children? So why is the kashmiri independence movement seen as terrorism, And the Indian independence movement was not? They are both based on cultural and religious freedom. By giving the kashmiri independence movement the name terrorist movement or calling kashmiris who are fighting for independence terrorists, India is using it as an excuse to continue to oppress the Kashmiris and show the international media how India is innocent. During the American Revolutionary War, The revolutionaries killed and tarred British soldiers and tax collectors. Was that not an act of terrorism? In the eyes of the British government, It was being defiant to the crown, Not called terrorism. Terrorism is not fight for freedom. Terrorism is the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, Especially against civilians. It however can be political, But lets face it, Fight for freedom is not political. It is the right of a person or group of persons to gain it if their rights are being infringed or if they are being treated like garbage. "When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, The separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, A decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. " (Decleration of independence: USA) This is Such the case for Kashmir. Kashmir needs independence or let them decide who they want to join. The main reason India does not wanna give up Kashmir is because the Kashmiri people want to join Pakistan. I say let them decide what Kashmir wants to do with itself.
Orangedinossaur

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I have no clue what Kashmir is but I will definitely look it up and decide what my stand on this debate is. If you could tell me in the comments what it is that would really help. Thank you very much.

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Debate Round No. 1
Noorghani6

Pro

ok No problem
Orangedinossaur

Con

From my many hours of research about Kashmir it's either a type of clothing or a very cold region near India that was the scene of most of Tom Cruise's Mission Impossible 6. So if its a type of clothing they don't need independence. If its the region that MI6 took place in then I thought they were already apart of Pakistan. So I am clearly not right for this debate.

Sincerely,
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Just Kidding nobody likes Jacksflims.
Debate Round No. 2
Noorghani6

Pro

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Orangedinossaur

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by omar2345 3 years ago
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@Noorghani6

Hope you find someone willing to debate this.
Posted by omar2345 3 years ago
omar2345
"Muslims in India get killed and even put to jail for eating cow"

It is their rules if they do not like it they can leave.

Murder is morally wrong but if Muslims knew it was a religious symbol why are they trying to cause conflict?

"The Indian army uses rubber bullets and purposely aims to hit the innocent protesters in the face. "

At least they are not real ones. The army is not at fault if they are only doing their job. If you want real change do it politically because fighting an army is a losing battle and protesting is a waste of time in my opinion. The army have better weaponry and lets say by a miracle you win who is going to replace the army you murdered?

Not going to take the debate because I do not know a lot about Kashmir and everything above is everything productive that I can give to the conversation.
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