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Mingodalia
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talhamala
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Muslims believe they are the followers of the Antichrist

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Started: 3/14/2018 Category: Religion
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Debating Period
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Mingodalia

Pro

I am making the claim that Muslims literally believe that they are the followers of the Beast from the Sea (AKA the Antichrist) from the Biblical book of Revelation.
talhamala

Con

what you said is an assumption. Muslims believe that there is no one worthy of worship except ALLAH and believe that Prophet Muhummed is the last and final Prophet of Allah. Just telling you Isa (Jesus) is not the real god. He was made up.
Before the day of judgment, he will come down and break the cross. If you do not trust me go to http://islamhelpline.net...

Thank you
Debate Round No. 1
Mingodalia

Pro

The Qur'an mentions that the Beast from the Earth will address the unbelievers and admonish them for their lack of attention towards God. The following is the purport of the Qur'anic verse that has been discussed:

And when the Word is fulfilled against them (the unjust), we shall produce from the earth a beast to (face) them: He will speak to them, for that mankind did not believe with assurance in Our Signs.

"R01;Qur'an, sura 27 (An-Naml),ayat"82

According to hadith traditions from"Al-Tirmidhi,"Dabba"will have the"Seal of Solomon and the"Staff of Moses. He will"mark"the believers with the staff and the seal will mark the"unbelievers.

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The New Testament, which predates Islam by 600-700 years, states that the "Beast from the Earth" will be the "False Prophet", who gives authority to the "Beast from the Sea" (AKA the Satanic being who claims to be god in the end times).

The Islamic version of the Mahdi is literally given in Islamic eschatology, the qualities of this Satanic agent, the "Beast from the Sea".

Examples of this are that he rules the world under one religion that rejects that Jesus is the "Son of God".

In Sahih al-Bukhari Book Number 73 Hadith Number 224"Allah's Apostle said, " The most awful name in Allah's sight on the Day of Resurrection, will be (that of) a man calling himself Malik Al-Amlak (the king of"kings)

In the NT, which predates Islam, it says in Revelation 19:16, "On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: king of kings and lord of lords." (This speaking of Jesus Christ as depicted in the NT.

Based on this data, the Mahdi is a Satanic agent who will reject Christ as the Son of God, will be given support by the False Prophet, and will destroy the Christians and Jews. Then he, the Mahdi/Antichrist will attempt to rule the world, destroy anyone who opposes his false religion, and will oppose the "King of Kings" in the end of days.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...(Revelation)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

http://endtimerevelations.weebly.com...
talhamala

Con

Are you a Muslim?
Debate Round No. 2
Mingodalia

Pro

Islam- The Black Stone will come forth on the Day of Resurrection and will testify in favour of those who touched it in truth.

It was narrated that Ibn "Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said concerning the Stone: "By Allaah, Allaah will bring it forth on the Day of Resurrection, and it will have two eyes with which it will see and a tongue with which it will speak, and it will testify in favour of those who touched it in sincerity."
Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 961; Ibn Maajah, 2944
This hadeeth was classed as hasan by al-Tirmidhi, and as qawiy by al-Haafiz ibn Hajar in Fath al-Baari, 3/462

In Revelation 13:15 it says:

"The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed."

1. Islam- The Black Stone fell to this earth from Paradise.

It was narrated that Ibn "Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allah said: "The Black Stone fell from Paradise."
(Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 877; al-Nasaa"i, 2935. The hadeeth was classed as saheeh by al-Tirmidhi).

In Luke 10:18 Jesus Says that Satan fell from Heaven.

He replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.
-Luke 10:18

2. Islam- The Stone was whiter than milk, but the sins of the sons of Adam made it black.

It was narrated that Ibn "Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "When the Black Stone came down from Paradise, it was whiter than milk, but the sins of the sons of Adam made it black."
(Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 877; Ahmad, 2792. Classed as saheeh by Ibn Khuzaymah, 4/219. Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar classed it as qawiy (strong) in Fath al-Baari, 3/462).

In Ezekiel 28:15 it gives a similar depiction to Satan

"You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till iniquity was found in you."
-Ezekiel 28:15

Picture of the Kaaba stone from Islam in Mecca. It would be what Muslims use to fulfill the concept of the image of the beast to be bowed to. The Bible says the image will speak. Muslims believe it will speak. The Bible says they will bow to it. Muslims do bow to it.

KAABA STONE-

https://www.gettyimages.fi...

MUSLIMS BOWING TO KAABA STONE-

http://astrology-arijit.blogspot.com...

Here is a picture of the symbol of Baal on top of the Islamic clock tower in Mecca.

http://www.skyscrapercenter.com...

And here is the symbol of Baal.

https://wildfiregames.com...

Why does this matter? Because Baal is the prefix for Baalzebub, which is synonymous with Satan.

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org...

https://www.artbible.info...

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Mingodalia 3 years ago
Mingodalia
Cause Emom said so TPPDJT.
Posted by Amphia 3 years ago
Amphia
Muslims believe Jesus exists, they just don't think he was the literal son of God. He was simply a good prophet. Muslims feel the New Testament is a corruption of the true story so that's why they use the Koran instead which is more accurate.
Posted by Amphia 3 years ago
Amphia
Muslims believe Jesus exists, they just don't think he was the literal son of God. He was simply a good prophet. Muslims feel the New Testament is a corruption of the true story so that's why they use the Koran instead which is more accurate.
Posted by TPPDJT 3 years ago
TPPDJT
Why con?
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